I'm a bit concerned about Tweety. He seems to have short term memory issues. Last week, to wit:
And the sex lives of presidential candidates…did Mike Wallace really ask Mitt Romney if he had relations with his wife before marriage? And did Mitt Romney really have to answer that question?
And where did this finger-wagging prudery with regard to the sex lives of Presidential candidates disappear to yesterday? Matthews opened his raincoat and put his obsession with the Clenis on display once again:
MATTHEWS: Let me go to Lois Romano. Without getting any further than I‘m going right now, how do you explain a comment from the former president “I talk to her almost every day”?
LOIS ROMANO, “WASHINGTON POST”: He does. I…
MATTHEWS: Well, what does that mean, though? What does it mean to say you talk to your spouse almost every day?
ROMANO: Well, look, what I think…
MATTHEWS: What does that mean, to say something like that?
ROMANO: I think they‘re extremely close. They‘re of one mind. And I…I…
MATTHEWS: I‘m not asking about that. Are they living on the same planet? Do they ever see each other physically?
ROMANO: They‘re completely—oh, yes, yes, yes.
MATTHEWS: Where?
ROMANO: Come on. They‘re a partnership. Because, look, she‘s a senator. She goes home on weekends. He‘s traveling around. But they are they are—make no mistake about it, they are a partnership, and they are a love story. I mean, regardless of anything else that‘s happened…
MATTHEWS: Well, how many is it? Is it 20 days a year? How many days of the year are they actually together in the same roof overnight, if you will?
ROMANO: I think—I think that I saw a report that said it was about half a month.
MATTHEWS: A year?
ROMANO: Yes. Well, a half a month every month. So whatever—half a year, yes.
MATTHEWS: Oh, really? I would recheck the reporting. Is that what you got, Jonathan, in your reporting, that they‘re together half the time overnight?
DARMAN: I…
MATTHEWS: They actually live together half the time? I don‘t think I‘m getting that from your—your words so far tonight.
DARMAN: From what I‘ve—from what I‘ve heard from people—this is not, again, something they like to talk about that much—but that it‘s a little bit less than that. And I seem to recall a figure that was 70 days a year and—so that‘s less than half a year. But again, I mean, there‘s this—there‘s this question of—in a lot of ways, both of the Clintons have really benefited since they‘ve been out of the White House by going out there and carving out their own identities. He‘s doing his global thing with the foundation, and she‘s sort of distinguished herself as a senator, and they‘ve really, you know, benefited from getting their own individual identities and not having everyone fixating on what their…
MATTHEWS: Do you have a sense, Jonathan…
DARMAN: … marital dynamic is.
MATTHEWS: You put a cover piece, so I‘m going to keep pounding on you. Is he going to live in the White House, if they win? Why are you laughing, Lois?
ROMANO: Because—what is your obsession with logistics here?
Indeed. Mitt's sex life is an inappropriate topic of journalistic inquiry, but Matthews can't go a week without poking around in Hillary Clinton's underwear drawer. Lois Romano quite rightly called him out for being an obsessive wack job. I wonder if veteran Matthews watcher Bob Somerby's prediction will come true:
Our analysts have simply [heart] Romano in her recent Hardball sessions. But uh-oh! History teaches us a hard lesson: When Matthews gets mad at “liberal” women, such women disappear from the air.
She'll probably return about the same time Laura Flanders is invited back on to Lou Dobbs. Which is a shame, because every time Matthews thinks he's got to beef up his distaff quota we're treated to the spectacle of Ole 60 Grit opening cans with her teeth on the Hardball set, and that's even harder to take than Tweety's regular shift as a panty sniffing perv.
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ooohhh, lolo’s gonna be mad at this occasional delurker
glad i never watch tv, and extra glad the brave folk at the lake watch it for me
NewDealFarmGrrrlll @ 2
u aint kiddin.
oh, and Hi Jane. glad to see the Dynamic Duo of Hamsher and ReddHedd all fired up again.
some say that mr. romney’s hair pomade keeps the marital bed slippery and discomforting for the ‘mrs.’
Is this true?
Inquiring minds want, no; need to know.
O/T: De,mocrats Cave on Iraq.
Tell me again why I voted? And how long will pelosi keep her bullshit “New Direction” banner on her website?
Watch those typos Jane. You wrote “to wit” but since you’re talking about Tweety I’m sure you meant twit.
maybe tweety should ask Monica’s question: “have you ever cheated on your spouse?” of all his guests, not just the Clintons.
I try not to use sexist terms, but Tweety with Romano and then the Iraq cave – the women seem to have more balls than the men. Let’s do a Luntz and change the language.
There is, and has been for a long time, something unsavory about Mr. Matthews’ attitude and his comments about women. Like he never quite graduated from the locker room. I do not like this man. And I would not want him around my daughter. Matthews is at the least, border line weird.
Tweety is really a dodo bird.
Matthews has more issues than the National Geographic.
I am waiting for Matthews to ask if Patrick Fitzgerald is a virgin again. He asked the question twice on consecutive days after the Libby verdict. How creepy is that?
It makes me wonder what is going on in his bedroom; but then that thought makes me nauseous.
jane hamsher:
You meant “prudery”, not “prurience”.
Sex in high places. I wonder if it feels better than sex down here.
Wonder how often Ms. Mathews sees Li’l Tweety?
Gross.
Ever notice how Matthews acts sometimes toward Norah O’Donnell? The little comments he makes. And the way he looks. Creep.
Why are these people on TV and why do other people watch them? Every time my mother complains about something she saw on the “news” I tell her to turn of the damn TV. She can’t. She’s addicted. The best thing to happen to her was the Game Show Channel, but then the cable company canceled it and I am suffering for it. Thanks Time Warner.
brendan @ 15
thanks, brendan.
Hi Jane!
Reading that transcript is, um, surreal. This is what passes for news on “Hardball?” Maybe it’s time for Jon Stewart to go on Tweety’s show to tell him he’s “hurting America.”
On the Chris Matthews Show on the weekend, Tweety had all the members of the Matthews Meter comment on Hillary’s website request for a campaign song – he had trouble getting everyone to go along with the joke, which was clearly to come up with the biggest double-entendre about Bill and Hillary.
brendancalling @ 7
so we could hold their feet to the fire… (like we had any chance with denny hastert et al.). have you called you rep? i just called mine again.
pwrlght @ 14
Wow. I must’ve missed that. Links?
I stopped looking at “Hardball a month or so ago. Could no longer take it.
OT: Jerry Brown is seriously delivering in Boxer’s committee right now!
…opening cans of FIREDOGLAKE WHOOP-ASS with her teeth….
Oklahoma kiddo @ 17
Are those the times he drools?
Gnome de Plume @ 18
Actually GSN still appears on the box but it looks like it’s an extra premium charge over and above having to pay for the digital package. It’s channel 227 in San Antonio. Of course I may be a mistaken idiot.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 24
tweety makes my skin crawl. jane is made of stronger stuff than i am.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
I read the piece without looking at who wrote it first.
Another signature Jane Hamsher piece!
TiredFed @ 9
The question is either “When did you stop cheating on your spouse” or “How long have you been cheating on your spouse.”
Geez.
Tweety’s preoccupation with other people’s sex lives verges on the creepy. That he apparently has no internal censor telling him that his remarks are inappropriate makes me want to never be in the same room with him.
I saw the clip of Mitt’s interview on 60 Minutes and frankly Mitt brought up his own sex life. I don’t think it was inappropriate for Mike Wallace to ask the premarital sex question. Mitt lead him to water – Mike just took a big drink.
Tweety has a lot of nerve clocking in the Clintons when persistent rumors have Laura living in a hotel.
selise @ 29
I stopped watching all network news just after 9/11. Now, I get all my news from the blogosphere.
Maybe that’s why I’m just a dirty fucking hippie. ;-)
An oldy but goldy from Rep. Louise Slaughter on
Tweety’s Jack Abramoff connections.
dakine01 @ 28
No, you are right. My dad is too cheap to pay the premium, so it got canceled for my mother.
I’ve been too polite for way too long. I’m going to start beating up on my party. The Democratic Party. With an eye to some very specific House and Senatorial members.
Well, Karl Rove’s got Tweety’s number regarding husbands and wives: didn’t Tweety get the fair game phone call from Karl?
Ever wonder why the show is called HardBALL? Maybe it is not a sports reference. Sicko, but not in a Michael Moore way.
Jane Hamsher @ 23
I don’t have any links – the first time was the day the verdict was announced right before Fitzgerald came out to speak. The second time was when Matthews asked the juror who came on Hardball the day after the verdict if she thought Fitzgerald was virginal. She just looked stunned and didn’t really answer. I just remember it clearly because I was really grossed out by Tweety.
LBrowne @ 32
I disagree with you, I don’t think it VERGES on the creepy, it’s flat out creepy.
OT to Gnome — thanks for downstairs. Familiar with all three terms separately but couldn’t quite put them all together in that order. I blame Clinton.
Dover Bitch @ 25
More info please
Mutant Poodle @ 31
oh yeah, the “when did you stop beating your wife” question. better. much better. (when used appropriately).
Jane,
I just wonder what Ron Ray-guns, Jr has done that he has to be the one appearing on Tweety’s show with Ol’ 60 Grit. It looks like he’s on there with her most every time.
Do ya think maybe it’s some form of penance for his father?
SPEAKING OF SEX LIES, ERR, LIVES, THE BIGGEST OPEN SECRET IN DC IS WHO, OR WHAT SEX, DOES THE PREZNIT SLEEP WITH?
I mean, “sleepover” with Nato General (he has a thing for uniforms) who “runs” and “signs cabaret classics….”
First, Jeff Gannon with his 22 overnight visits to the w house, now this item (Froomkin) — which sure made my Gaydar go off:
Ranch Visit
——————————–
James Gerstenzang writes in the Los Angeles Times: “For foreign leaders doing business with President Bush, no invitation holds quite the cachet of a visit to his Prairie Chapel Ranch. And spending the night elevates the event even more.
“That the NATO secretary-general, a Dutch politician with a predilection for running long distances and singing short cabaret classics, arrived here Sunday for some sleepover diplomacy illustrates the extent to which Bush is putting the spotlight on trans-Atlantic relationships in general and NATO in particular.”
Michael A. Fletcher writes in The Washington Post about “life on the 11-acre staff encampment set up to support the president when he is in Crawford.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..744_5.html
EPU’d from previous thread – the answer to CC&R question: Covenants, Codes and Restrictions. It keeps the values up by keeping undesirables and their undesirable ways out. No DFH’s and their “natural” way of doing things like drying sheets in the sunshine.
The day after the last GOP debates Tweety defended Rudy and called him a hero for his slap down of Paul… You know Paul, the guy who spoke the truth and Rudy who demanded the lies remain.
If I had a tenth of darkblacks abilities I would have to paste a codpiece over Tweetys mouth.
What bothers me most of all is that it’s obvious the political consultants think like Tweety and fear his thoughtless dribble.
Jock muncher.
interesting how visceral the reactions of the women are to tweety. poor guy, probably couldn’t get a date at a Republican leper colony. not that I feel sorry for him or anything.
Ok just left message at pelosi’soffice re Iraq bill- I AM FURIOUS!
Tweety’s childish and prurient speculation on Hillary and Bill Clinton reminds me of the whisper campaign about Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt by the VRWC of the New Deal era. There is something about a strong male-female partnership that just drives the wingnuts crazy. Of course, as Tweety pointed out in 2003, it’s great that we have a leader who can prance around an aircraft carrier two miles from shore in a codpiece to lead us in the war on terror, rather than a paraplegic who was so weak that he actually had to be carried onto a battleship in World War II in U-boat infested waters to meet Churchill….
Tweety was almost salivating during that exchange, obnoxious.
pelosi 1-202-225-0100
Oklahoma kiddo @ 38
a couple of dkos diaries at dkos today you might like:
from senator feingold:
from david sirota:
and what a difference the reactions to Fitz, eh? if you could bottle that, the money you could make!
OT-Just a thought: If Bush sends 300,000 soldiers to Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan by 11/08, just think of all the absentee votes he can void. Or, better yet, just think of all the ballots that magically become republican votes.
going to tell my two very Blue Dem Senators and extremently blue Dem congressman that I am not down with this Iraq-with-no-strings supplemental!
Wondering, here, if there’ll be a primary challenge to Nancy Pelosi. This cave to the President will make many, many constituents very unhappy.
And he probably spent a lot of time in school staring at all the girls’ patent leather shoes hoping to get a lucky peek. If he were in school today, he’d be clicking cameraphone pictures up their skirts — and also in the boys locker room after his gym class.
He’s been like this about Hillary for YEARS so I’m starting to wonder about Tweety’s relationship with his own mother (forgive me Mrs Matthews.)
For hygienic purposes only, were both of Matthews’ hands visible when he was asking these questions?
Solai @ 44
Brown, the California AG and former Governor, is seeking a waiver from the EPA so that his state can regulate tougher emissions on cars. He has threatened to sue Bush over it if he doesn’t get it.
Boxer is holding a hearing over the issue and Brown is kicking ass. Sen. Whitehouse is questioning right now.
Hi guys-
Not making excuses for anyone, but Matthews did persist on the CIA leak thing when most others did not.
Tweety’s producer? is a woman so I wonder if they both are obsessed with the Clintons. I would think a woman working with him would call him on it unless she has the same unhealthy take on Hillary and Bill. The Quinns, Carlsons (Margaret), Dowds, Huffingtons, and the like can’t find enough venom to spew the Clinton way.
Also, Inhofe is the only GOPer there.
TeddySanFran @ 60
Let’s keep in mind that the funding is only until September. I’m not happy either, but, if we get our message out we can hope for better results in 4 mos.
Bush is escalating the surge, and the Democratic Congress is giving him the money to do it.
I’m fucking pissed!
ok. that wasnt so hard. wonder if it will do any good.
TiredFed @ 51
I still can’t believe you didn’t link to the Thompson Twins “How Me Now” on the other thread, btw
TiredFed @ 68
if a million people did it…. then it would. now, how do we get a million people to call?
Mary McCurnin @ 27
Sad thing is him not noticing the drool. Lets just call his hour ‘The Drool Stories’.
Ok caled pelosi, clinton & Schumer and am still fumming. time to go out and pull weeds!!
Milan River @ 64
Yes, he did. It is one of the reasons I watch him but he is obsessed with other peoples sex life.
Wonder if Tweety went to Catholic school, that would explain a lot.
BREAKING: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
Diane @ 75
he did
Diane @ 75
From Wikipedia: Matthews, a Philadelphia native, is a Roman Catholic of Irish descent who graduated from La Salle College High School and The College of the Holy Cross.
i have a bad feeling about the possibility that the dems will fund bush’s occupation.
bad for us, bad for iraqis and bad for the democratic party. wft are they thinking?
I hope Falwell is communicating from beyond with GWB: “Hey, Bro, you better straighten up and fly right because it’s as bad as they say down here. Penance, penance, penance.”
Tweety is such a loose cannon. We cannot expect fairness or integrity from this fruitball.
Not a huge Hil fan, but honestly, the man is obsessed with her so it goes to reason he is also obsessed with her sex life and living arrangements.
Considering his effusiveness over the Codpiece debacle and obsessions with male candidates’ appearance and dress, I believe Tweety has some issues that need addressing.
At RawStory: Feingold: I can’t support ‘toothless benchmarks’ bill: Soon…
Milan River @ 64
Again, loose cannon. Never know what to expect from Tweety. Sometimes he good and sometimes he’s downright icky.
I am not pleased with the Speaker’s apparent “cave in”. And I am usually an ardent supporter of the Speaker. I might even say I’m PISSED Off. But I won’t.
Elliott @ 70
? could be I missed it? if its active content, it gets stripped here at owrk. I can only see video at home.
Sen. Whitehouse just told Jonathan Adler that there is no excuse for the EPA not being prepared to act, now that they have already lost in the Supreme Court. Adler responded with a lengthy explanation of how slow the EPA normally is and how slow the federal government moves.
Whitehouse shut him down by saying “I’m not comforted by your argument that it could be worse.”
Bam!
Can someone get through that invisible soundwall along the beltway and explain to Congress, in words of few syllables, why we keep screaming at them to
END THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ and
BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW
because as far as I can tell, they have bananas in their ears so they can’t hear anything that does get through that invisible soundwall. [sorry about the screaming, but I’m more than a little unhappy.]
selise @ 71
you tell two people, and they tell two people, ….
Hearing adjourned. Bravo, Sen. Boxer!
Patrick Fitzgerald: The 47-Year-Old Virgin
I’d like to jump out ahead of a story, if I may, and demand an apology from Hardball host Chris Matthews. Last week, when the Lewis “Scooter” Libby guilty verdict was announced, he repeatedly referred to Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald as “virginal.” “Doesn’t he know how the game is played?” asked Matthews, marveling at Fitzgerald’s integrity.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..43326.html
You know six months ago when benchmarks (timetable) whatever you want to call it were mentioned – BushCo. screamed TRAITORS! The talk about Iraq has moved along way since Murtha said year and half ago the war is not winnable and we have to get out. I have great hope that by Christmas we will be pulling out of Iraq.
But I also hope Gonzo is going to resign; so that tells you I do a lot of wishful thinking.
I saw his attack dog mode yesterday. He certainly seemed cranked up so I sent MSNBC the below E-mail.
Message to Chris Matthews
Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf Decaf
Repeated 180 times. Either that or lay off the Twinkies.
Cozumel @ 90
Thanks Cozumel!
Since the election, the Democrats have been preaching that the Republics don’t get the fact the majority of the country wants us out of Iraq. Sadly, the Democrats don’t get it, either.
Paul for President.
Ugh. C-Span 3 is replaying the Conference on Civility in Politics with Lieberman and Boehner.
SusanD @ 34
All the better for Commander romps with the military stud.
Sorry, looking for some levity. Everyone so distressed about the Dem cave in.
pwrlght @ 93
You’re welcome
Dover Bitch @ 95
… are they playing it at Gitmo, to get AlQaida to ‘fess up?
Maybe the reason for Tweety’s Clinton obsession is based on fear. Maybe he’s afraid that if Hillary becomes president, Bill will disable him by wiggling his hips sensuously. This would allow Slick Willy to have a “reverse snake charmer” effect on Tweety.
Moon @ 92
Can you imagine how long he would have lasted in his profession if he were a woman?
Gnome de Plume @ 48
I left you a response in the previous thread.
In hindsight, I really didn’t owe you one. You made a LOT of assumptions.
Sally @ 65
well, we all know MoDo desparately needs a date so why doesn’t SHE go on Softballs’ show? They’ve got soooooo much in common. No one could be more obsessed with the Clintons than she is. She actually had a pretty good column the other day about Wolfo and his girlfriend……until she dragged in Bill and Hill, by way of…….uh, COMPARISON.
Dover Bitch @ 95
Broder has probably drawn the blinds and is enjoying some late afternoon bipartiporn.
TiredFed @ 85
none of you guys did, yet the song begged to
be included in that “discussion” ;)
Just keep sending him the same damn bill and let the a-hole veto it. Then accuse him of refusing the fund the troops. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Is it really that hard?
Don’t answer that.
allan_in_upstate @ 103
LOL!
Did you all read the post about Dems using repub talking points. Well, someone should tell Baca that they did fund the war. The commander in chief vetoed it.
EPU’d from the habeas corpus hearing.
Someone should point out that there are now several American citizens, including a NGO associated with Iranian Democracy movements and an FBI agent, being held incommunicado in IRAN, without the protections of habeas corpus. Essentially Ahadjinedad and Bush are using the precise same rationale. And the US really can’t even complain if these people are held in perpetual imprisonment without charge…heck they can even be tortured for “confessions” of espionage.
This is what Bush has wrought! We no longer can point to the Geneva Conventions or our own standards as moral leverage.
oddmommy @ 102
Good idea on its face, but they’d probably end up in a bitchfest stand-off fueled by mutual Clinton Lust a la Jerry Springer.
brendancalling @ 7
One reason is that without a DEM Senate and Congress Rove would still be replacing US Attorney’s at will and state and local DEMS would find themselves under indictment on BS charges.
Think Progress has this
White House Quietly Planning ‘Second Surge’ To Double Escalation In Iraq By Christmas
Per TPM, Harry Reid is defending the cave-in by saying that the Republicans have adopted the Democrats’ timelines for withdrawal implicitly, by talking about “Plan B” come September. And as Colbert says, Lucy has implicitly promised Charlie Brown that she won’t pull the football away when the season starts in September. I can only hope that they think that the stench from Bush scandals will grow so fetid by September that impeachment will be on the docket. Somehow I doubt it.
Its almost like they are saying “na na na” “cant stop me.”
allan_in_upstate @ 36
this is from the lead in to that diary, my bold:
Jane Hamsher @ 19
that was brendan, not brendancalling. just sayin’…
snowbird42 @ 110
Yeah, Olbermann’s going to cover it tonight. Guess that war supplemental’s not going to spread as far as they thought.
I am so furious that the Democrat leadership caved on their timeline. The only way to deal with this administration is from a position of strength. How could they be so incredibly stupid. I give up.
Pelosi actually told Stephanopolis that she likes George W. Bush. Let’s start there.
Nancy Pelosi(if you or your aides ever read this), please explain why you actually like a human being that condones torture, that condones extraordinary rendition, that advocates warrantless wiretaps on American citizens?????
What is wrong with you?
What do you call your act?
The Democrats.
snowbird42 @ 111
I wonder if the second surge will include anyone from the Bush family. It must be hard on such a brave and patriotic family to have to sit on the sidelines.
Mary McCurnin @ 118
lol
Mandrake @ 81
i so agree, it has got to be personal
And, I still say that besides the outrage of continued war, this will give Rove a lot of absentee ballots to mess with.
Second surge…aka Neo Wargasms
snowbird42 @ 111
Heaed some general on Warren Only’s npr show today who said that all these surges are impossible to maintain–that w/out a draft (which will not be instituted for this war) the military just cannot sustain itself, either in personal or manpower. In other words, Bush has bankrupted the military & will be forced to withdraw next year sometime. He is just being stubborn and willful with these surges, not capable of dealing with the fact that he launched an immoral war which cannot win and other than lynching Saddam hussain has not met a single of the stated goals for invasion (note how they continue to promulgate the fiction of a “democratically elected gov in Iraq.”).
LS @ 117
well, maybe when folks are around Stephanopoulos it brings out their inner zombie. Sort of like water rising to its level, or something.
Eureka Springs @ 123
lol
I wonder what two countries are driving this? And my party debates, and debates and debates.
AP – Thousands of people fled a crowded(Palestinian) refugee camp Tuesday night during a break in three straight days of clashes between Lebanese troops and Islamic militants holed up inside, Associated Press reporters at the scene said.
Eureka Springs @ 123
lol
Everyone in the office is looking at me funny now because I just abruptly barked with laughter. Gonna be hard to top that for Late Nite tonight.
The snark bar is rising all the time.
snowbird42 @ 113
Well when/if the first “surge” fails, then there will be even less of a point for more death in more Friedman Units… I hope by then he’s been impeached, fercripessake!!
LS @ 126
JINX!
oddmommy @ 102, the dictionary should include “Bill and Hillary” in the definition of “comparison.” It’s amazing how often the Clintons are included in articles as off-topic as “radishes” just to take a mean-spirited swipe. What fools we mortals be.
Dover Bitch @ 86
Priceless.
I think I will order a fishy sandwich from the snark bar.
Eureka Springs @ 123
Do we start calling Harry Reid, Daddy Warbucks?
One on my Republican pals yesterday called me an “American militant”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 127
What was interesting to me was the location of the violence in the north of Lebanon, near the Syrian border. I’m not convinced that this is not a pretext to insert some kind of proxy force to keep the Syrians from re-entering Lebanon, this time with a UN force rather than the IDF.
Mandrake @ 95
it hasn’t happened yet.
and just as we want our D congress critters to keep the pressure on the white house…. it is up to us to keep the pressure on our D congress critters (i’d be feeling much better if we were doing more of that).
Axis of Evil – Part deux et trois
TRex @ 129
Great radio interview you did last weekend at KIRO in Seattle. Laughed at the comments about not being able to editorialize about the lives or views of classical composers when you’re doing your job. I listened to the podcast yesterday.
Frank Probst @ 76
American foreign policy did not turn on a dime when Bush assumed power, or even after 9-11. Booman has a good post on this today: http://www.boomantribune.com/s…..113333/779
My pendulum has swung to black pessimism today: Americans aren’t going to end the Iraq War any more than German or Russian public opinion ended WWII or the Cold War. My prediction in 2003 was 10,000 American dead, a million dead Iraqis before it ended. I forgot to add national bankruptcy.
Not a good time for Governor Dean to be e-mailing me about the Republics’ lack of leadership.
Okay Jane – I found this blog through google and they give a good description of Matthews being creepy about Fitzgerald.
Wednesday, March 07, 2007
Chris Matthews: Pundit’s Tourette’s
I’m watching Chris Matthews interview a mousy little woman who was one of the Libby jurors. It turns out this is the juror who cried. Matthews just said to her, “Jeepers creepers, why were you a weeper?”
Of course, Matthews keeps referring to Libby as “Scooter,” and when he asked the mousy juror what she thought of Scooter, she replied that he “just seemed like a ton of fun!”
Matthews seems to have the hiccups or something, and referring to Patrick Fitzgerald, he said to the plain juror, “Doesn’t he seem like a virgin to you? Like someone who never had a date, never had a hangover?” Mousy woman looked uncomfortable.
Aww! Drab little juror just said she wants Scooter to get a pardon! “I don’t want him to go jail.” I feel the same way, weeping juror!
Matthews is saying goodbye to her now, “Thank you, dear. You’re a very nice person.” Earlier in the interview he called her a “very nice human person.” As opposed to the other kind of person, I guess. This is what happens when members of the media interact with humanity. (I’ll bet weeping juror found her experience on Hardball more traumatic than jury duty.)
http://wonkitties.blogspot.com…..chive.html
It makes be wonder if Matthews was hoping to pop Fitz’s cherry.
What I am getting now is not what I voted for last November.
Re: Dem backdown
i dunno, could it be some sorta back-room fuckery to get gonzo to step down?
More like back-door fuckery.
what chris matthews does is of the utmost importance because, after all, he is a very serious and influential person.
Maybe his party’s cave-in will be the last straw for Gore and he will enter the race. Talk about an assault on reason, huh, Al?
ok also called stenyHoyer
202.225.3130
make those calls!!!
Mary McCurnin @ 145
lol, yeah, i almost wrote door :/
Mary McCurnin @ 146
Or just plain old fuckery.
Sally @ 148
Snow: Gore’s Book Should Be ‘Reprinted’ Because It Calls Bush On His ‘Deception’
This apparent cave-in is a sell out, and will contribute to low voter turn out, which will help the Republicans in 2008.
oddmommy @ 125
Ya’ know, this speaks to the heart of my Clinton aversion. Not that I haven’t defended both Bill and Hill many times against any undeserved and unwarranted attacks. But the bipartisan spirit of Bill Clinton is not relevant to the times at hand. This kind of “balance” is exemplified by Stephanopolous, a throw-back to the Clinton admin.
To his credit, it’s amazing to me that, as much as he has been reviled, despised, and demonized by the right, Clinton always tried to reach across the aisle. He’s Poppy’s bud, fer cryin’ out loud.
I talk about Bill b/c he is Hill’s partner and he WILL be in the WH, too, if she wins. I really would prefer not to deal with the media laser beam on the Clintons, well-honed and cancerous, after 15 years of sophisticated development, which would ensue and persist throughout her administration.
I don’t want any kuumbaya with Publicans at this point. Not now and not after ‘08. They are much too dangerous and cannot be trusted. Maybe in a couple of decades after they have been completely emasculated.
Just called Pelosi’s office and got transferred to voice mail. It takes a strong stomach to make these calls and not feel completely insignificant, non?
TRex @ 128
I’ll admit where my mind went: vagina dentata. Yeah, I’m still on the cold meds.
this is a low figging time to be a democrat.
they remind me of the opening scene in grindhouse, with the castrating clamp.
Ishmael @ 137
This was a great site for info during Israel’s war on Lebanon last summer: http://turcopolier.typepad.com…..e_247.html
OT. From the Department of Blowback:
Hersh: Bush administration arranged support for militants attacking Lebanon
We were for Sunni terrorists in Lebanon before we were against them.
But, as Condi says, these are the birth pangs of a new Middle East.
brendan @ 140
thanks for the link… really excellent booman post. a must read, imo.
You don’t suppose this is some sort of quid pro quo vis a vis upcoming hearings and votes related to Gonzogate, do you? I hope not. Surely by now the Dems realize that the Republican definition of quid pro quo all too often proves to be, “You scratch my back and I’ll stab yours.”
tw3k @ 145
Possibly. They’re talking about sticking the timeline in some upcoming bills in June. Maybe it’s in the immigration bill.
Bush doesn’t really care about the supplemental or the troops. He just cares about calling the shots and looking all powerful and macho, and his handlers care about completing their neocon agenda. I’m really wondering if he’s going to try not to leave at the end of his term. He is so completely uncooperative. I don’t see them easily giving up the presidency to a Dem.
queeniesdaughter @ 154
thank you, thank you!
we are only insignificant when we act alone… when we act together is when we start having power.
we have a long row to hoe… and our party is part of the problem. don’t give up now! we are making progress – way too slowly i know… but giving up is worse!
Seems ta me that Clusterfuck vetoed the last bill cause there was a timeline in it- “Do this stuff within four months or else”.
So what are the dems doin? Giving him funding for four months and tellin him that he better get some stuff done or else…Sounds ta me like a timeline!!
Solai @ 58
And do they include more National Guard? If they’re over there, they won’t be here to defend us against this government, should the need arise. (Not to mention the fact that it’s fire season.)
I found tweety a bit over the top when he bellowed that he didn’t want any ‘attitude’ about what he was ‘curious’ about.
this episode was pathetic.
selise @ 163
Now THAT’S What Pelosis Voice Mail Message should be!!!
Thank YOU.
selise at #160:
That’s a not a piece I would have been as receptive to a year or so ago. I used to be monomaniacally assured that the Israel lobby was the predominant motivator of our Iraq invasion, but I’m less convinced of that. This site (FDL) is partly responsible for allowing me to see the neocons differently: People like Scooter Libby, for example, or Elliott Abrams, are not the Michael Corleones here — they’re more analogous to a Rocco or a Neri, willing to go on suicide missions for the crime family.
FYI, new thread
Or here’s another possibility — what if the Dems are giving in on this because they’re certain the Decider won’t be making any more decisions come September?
What if Gooding’s testimony will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back and ends the so-called imperial presidency?
twolf1 @ 152, Snow is the perfect fit for the Texas mafia. Now if Mr. Gore will respond forcefully this time.
rwcole @ 164
not really. if he gets enough money to get through September, and he gets next year’s appropriation, then he can pretty much do what he wants all next year. the timeline/deadlines/benchmarks need to be in the supplemental. he will ignore them if they are in the regular FY 08 approps bill. this is running out the clock and leaving it for the next guy, Dem or Repub.
Politically speaking, this is suicide for Obama (who said a month ago that he was going to cave) and Hillary (who has her own problems w/ Iraq).
Edwards and Richardson are going to bury them on this issue.
LS @ 162
My husband has been saying for months now that Bush will not leave office in ‘08. To hear another say the same scares me.
spurious @ 165
do those clowns in the Congress KNOW he’s planning on escalating this
waroccupation???? put the timelines back in!“and he gets next year’s appropriation, then he can pretty much do what he wants all next year.”
Well he won’t get next year’s appropriation unless he proves that the surge is workin and that the Ira
Rayne @ 101
No, that was snark. I am an architect, not an attorney, so I see it from the designer’s p.o.v. who has to deal with stupid restrictions that limit creativity.
Brisingamen @ 170
that is not a good bet at this point. wait until tomorrow.
I don’t wanna but hafta go make groceries. See you all later.
rwcole @ 176
keep going… (but next year starts October 1 and Congress will likely pass the Defense approps bill on time in September).
Mary McCurnin @ 174
It scares me too, but I’m inclined to acknowledge the possibility (based on their non-responsiveness to the rule of law), so we can be prepared to do something should that happen. Chance favors the prepared mind.
Lunch hour howler: “… the spectacle of Ole 60 Grit opening cans with her teeth on the Hardball set…”
Way back in one of those 1970s Woody Allen movies, Howard Cosell provided blow-by-blow Sexual Scorekeeping — Woody and Louise Lassner (sp?) held a bout in bed and Cosell updated the audience on the he-said, she-said, right there from bedside.
Maybe Tweety just needs to rent some old Woody movies and brush up on his play-by-play as he reports the Weekly Clinton Sex Score. Maybe he could even go On Location? Yeowsa.
Bedside? Ringside? Will we get an update on any (ahem) ‘changing positions’? Will Tweety draw little OnScreen diagrams from bedside, kind of like John Madden does for football?
I figure that Ole 60 Grit is just there to be the color commentator on the Sex Wars (”Does Bill Get Enough? Updates at 5!”).
Booyah. News that matters. We luv us summa that.
After reading that transcript all I can say is, “If tweedy ain’t a pervert grits ain’t groceries”.
brendancalling @ 7
Pelosi is one of the good ones, but not omnipotent.
will be hanging down here for a while til they fix the margins upstairs. rwcole, you know I’m not arguing with you. no way.
allan_in_upstate @ 159
Thanks for the link. That was a big missing piece in this Lebanon puzzle. I’m skeptical of this notion that it’s “blowback”. Hamas’s terrorism, for example, is often described as blowback from the Israelis’ original promotion of the group, but the Israelis still prefer them as an enemy to the old PLO. In the same way, what is going on in Beirut now seems in some way preparatory to a promised third Israeli invasion of Lebanon this summer. Maybe someone can illuminate me before events do.
Matthews is a wanabe us senator and failed politician (he actually ran for office once), another former staffer, like Russert, like Stephaopolus who found his way onto licensed spectrum and a career. Matthews’ brother is a local politician somwhere. Nothing wrong with that and that is where Matthews belongs, not on the national airwaves.
It is truly amazing to me that matthews has any kind of audience.
Gnome de Plume @ 177
Sorry, I missed the /snark tag.
I’m wracking my brains on how to create a common space where laundry can be hung but we’re not seeing underwear all over the place. What makes this very safe for my kids is a walk that follows the outside perimeter of this small development, a common space that is shared for walking, jogging, biking, skating. The same walk keeps the kids off the street for activities, but it also means anybody’s back yard is open for view, along with the laundry.
The CC&R says no laundry hung outside, so I am currently hanging in the garage on racks. But it’s tough to do sheets, need open space. Almost wish I could pull off a Christo kind of thing, two rows of fabric run vertically in parallel at a 6 to 8 foot width with a clothesline strung between…but not going to happen. More likely to be able to install a wind-powered turbine and common electric dryers operated off the turbines.
Why is it that Tweety feels so free to air his craziness? The man is a sicko and seems to think it’s virtuous and investagative. Didn’t anybody hear him say Elizabeth Edwards was a “ball biter”? What’s with MSNBC?
Matthews is a republican and hates Hillary geneticly. It’s too early for the republicans to start smearing Hillary on her weakest point as percieved by them as Bill and Hillary’s relationship, but it’s not too early for sympathetic newscasters like Matthews, FOX, and others to start nibbling at the juicy steak on the plate. The left is doing similar digs to Rudy on his previous marital relationships. It’s the knock the frontrunners down early game. I bet every influential republican goes to bed at night thinking Hillary is going to be the next president. We all know a little release helps one sleep better at night so imagine what they are going through trying to get that good night’s sleep.
marshen @ 190
I think all this talk of the Clintons will remind people of several important things: we liked Bill pretty well and we don’t like all the Republican bitching and name calling when it came to Hillary or Bill’s extra-marital relations. But, probably much more important is that they keep talking about Hillary and giving her free press. Well, times have changed and I just don’t see how a continuation of ‘politics as usual’ can be good for America. It would be turning a blind eye to the entire Bush presidency. We can’t afford that at all.
And, what of the idea of triangulating? Would Hillary insist on triangulating with Republicans…Republicans? When does the public get some representation in the White House?
No, times have changed and we are sick & tired of the names Bush & Clinton. Of course, that doesn’t mean they’ll let us have a new name; we just have to hope and work for it.
Gimme Gore, Edwards, Richardson or somebody else.
Tweety does not like to be defied. He calls it attitude.