It looks like the British authorities have made their decision as to who will be charged in the poisoning death of former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. It is, as I reporteded here, Litvinenko's supposed friend and associate, Andrei Lugovoi who Litvinenko met with on multiple occasions around the date of the actual poisoning, which was carried out using a deadly form of the radioactive isotope Polonium-210 in a pot of tea.
From the Epoch Times UK:
Prosecutors are demanding that a former KGB agent be extradited from Russia to stand trial for the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.
The move, which has the full support of Downing Street, is likely to ratchet-up already strained diplomatic tensions between Britain and Russia.
Director of UK Public Prosecutions, Sir Ken Macdonald said: "I have today concluded that the evidence sent to us by the police is sufficient to charge Andrey Lugovoy with the murder of Mr Litvinenko by deliberate poisoning.
"I have further concluded that a prosecution of this case would clearly be in the public interest."
There's just one problem with that. Lugovoi has left London to return to Moscow and start his own security firm. And the Kremlin refuses to cooperate with the investigation.
The Russian ambassador was called into the Foreign Office on Tuesday morning, in the words of a Downing Street official, to "underline our view that Russia should comply with that legal request"
"Murder is murder," said the Prime Minister's spokesman, responding to questions about the diplomatic implications of the request by stressing the need for the international rule of law to be respected.
Russia has no formal extradition treaty specifically with the UK. The spokesman for the Prime Minister said the UK's extradition relations with Russia were based on the 2001 European Convention on Extradition and the 1957 Council of Europe convention
A spokeswoman for the Russian prosecutor's office said: "In accordance with Russian law, citizens of Russia cannot be turned over to foreign states."
She said that Lugovoi could be tried in Russia—with the evidence provided by the UK prosecution service.
Okay, I guess. Except that given the Russian media's silence and the lack of prosecution in the former Soviet Union with regards to the Putin government's nasty habit of murdering its critics, I would say that Andrei Lugovoi's chances of getting a fair trial in Moscow rank only slightly higher than a detainee's chances of getting a fair trial at Guantanamo. Yes, there is a government on this planet that's more obstructionist, obfuscatory, mulish, authoritarian, secretive, and criminal than the Bush regime. But of course, if our own President "I'm The Commander Guy" thought he could get away with half of what Putin's government does on a daily basis, he'd already have done it all twice over.
Litvinenko's widow Marina says she's glad of the prosecution, and grateful to British authorities for handling the grisly case quickly and decisively. (Again, here's proof that the FBI, CIA, and Homeland Security had nothing to do with investigating this crime. It has actually been solved, conclusively ruling out the involvement of US law enforcement.)
LONDON, May 22 (Reuters) - The widow of poisoned former Russian agent Alexander Litvinenko met Russia's ambassador in London on Tuesday and got no response to calls for the man charged with her husband's murder to be extradited.
Marina Litvinenko met the ambassador after Britain's Crown Prosecution Service said it would demand the extradition of Andrei Lugovoy, another former Russian agent, for the murder by deliberate radiation poisoning of Litvinenko, who suffered a slow death in a London hospital last year. "It was not an easy meeting for him because I asked him his opinion about the extradition of Mr Lugovoy from Russia," she told British television. "He did not answer me, because it's not his decision." Russian judicial sources have ruled out handing over Lugovoy. Litvinenko's widow said she would continue to fight for justice for herself and her son. She said she did not believe responsibility for her husband's murder lay with one person.
But that brings us back to the essential question underlying this whole story. Why? Why was the Kremlin purportedly so eager to see Litvinenko dead? If it was, in fact, the Kremlin. I did, at one point, posit that this may have been the work of yet another party anxious to create mistrust and international hostility toward the Putin regime.
Here are two (and a half) theories courtesy of The Guardian UK:
Theory one
The Kremlin ordered his murder. This, the most obvious explanation, was put by Litvinenko's associates after his death, though it is strenuously denied by the Kremlin.By this theory Mr Lugovoi, a former KGB agent, was hired to murder Litvinenko. The motive was revenge - with Litvenenko regarded as a traitor by his former colleagues in Russia's powerful federal security services.
The method chosen was poison - a favourite KGB tactic perfected during the cold war. In this case, however, it is not clear whether Mr Lugovoi realised that polonium-210 would leave behind a radioactive trail, or whether he thought that he had hit upon the perfect murder.
Occam and critics of Putin would like this to be the truth, since it is the simplest explanation. But there is a competing theory:
Theory two
Boris Berezovsky had Litvinenko killed to discredit Mr Putin. This is the most common view in Russia. It is vehemently denied by Mr Berezovsky, but is assiduously repeated on state-run TV stations and media.By this theory, Mr Berezovsky, the Kremlin's public enemy number one, had Litvinenko killed as part of a negative PR operation to embarrass and humiliate Russia. Mr Berezovsky has lived in exile in Britain since 2002, when he fell out with Mr Putin. He has made no secret of his desire to overthrow the Russian regime, telling the Guardian in April, admittedly well after the death of his friend Litvinenko in November, he was plotting a violent revolution against the state. Supporters of this theory say Mr Berezovksy had far more to gain from the murder than did Mr Putin.
I know it sounds a little crazy, but I really think this is where we need to go with our thinking about this case. Something about the sloppiness of the crime just bothers me. There were multiple attempts to poison Litvinenko, some of which contaminated innocent bystanders. (Dr. Hillhouse at The Spy Who Billed Me has more on this.) It seems clear to me that someone was sending a message to someone here, otherwise the crime would have been committed in the dark, behind closed doors, in some less public, less spectacular way.
But finally, there is one more theory:
Theory three
The murder of Litvinenko was a non-state level operation by Mr Lugovoi for reasons not clear - he took it upon himself, out of either patriotic or criminal motives. Almost certainly the operation was bungled, so the theory goes, with Mr Lugovoi unaware suspicion would fall immediately on him.He and fellow businessman Dmitry Kovtun both claim Litvinenko poisoned them, and they are the true targets.
And that's just kind of weird. But at least, Lugovoi isn't just shrugging and grinning sheepishly while he claims not to recall everything shy of his own name like our own AG Gone-zales. But that's another post for another night.
Kids, questions? Answers? Anybody care for a mint?
I'll be very interested to see how this plays out in diplomatic relations between Russia and the UK. This is the most openly hostile set of conditions we have seen since the "end" of the "Cold War". The Death of Communism looks like another trademark GOP stop-gap project where once the various corporations and oligarchs take their cut, it's more like just The Tired Feeling of Communism, followed by The Renaissance of Russian Totalitarianism (i.e., You Got a Problem With That, Comrade?).
This story is so complicated as to be downright Byzantine, but I will be following it as closely as I can, and keeping you guys abreast of what I find out.
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Good Evening TRex, I am having a cup of tea right now. How was your day?
SnarKassandra @ 3
Cassie, you will need to study with the Zedi master (LOLO) in order to become one with the net if you wish to capture the zed.
lolo @ 5
Hopefully not with any mysterious Russians (prosaic Russians are OK).
DrDick @ 6
i need to sent my alarm clock 2 minutes earlier
hola, TRex. I thought of you when I saw this story this morning…
Theory one it is. No doubt about it.
SnarKassandra @ 3
Hey are you off restriction??? Missed you last night.
lolo
You know, TRex worked really hard to put this post together and all you guys can talk about is zed heaven. (You never know where late nite will take us.)
New posts up at YouthINKLeft
lolo @ 10
I missed all of you too!!!!!!!
DrDick @ 7
No, just some loose darjeeling with stevia.
I’m one with EPU apparently –
see #304 last thread for .02
well.. perhaps Goodling’s shrubco handlers figure that they could use some of that KGB magic powder about now :P
Good evening all, good evening TRex. Wow, that’s a lot of heavy stuff in this post! Good stuff and very interesting. And yes, Byzantine!
SnarKassandra @ 12
Other first you do not want to have:
Lowest life expectancy in the industrialized world.
Most Expensive healthcare in the industrialized world.
Highest infant mortality rate in the industrialized world.
Highest incarceration rate in the industrialized world.
Least time taken for vacation in the industrialized world.
(silently sliding into the waters of the lake) well, today has been a pisser of a day. thank goodness for the cool, soothing waters of the lake.
TRex, I was just wondering this week what was going on in this case. Thanks for the update.
SnarKassandra @ 4
2 days Cassie, is all I’m sayin’… :-)
DrDick @ 18
Can you please leave that as a comment? Also, where is that from?
TribeScribe, I’m EPU’d after you. Threw in my two cents also.
Now to pass it along to Gramma Nancy in DC. I think I’ll use the politer version that I sent Boxer.
I just don’t think it was the Kremlin. I may be way off base here, but it seems to me that if the Kremlin wanted Litvinenko out of the way, there were far easier ways to do it than transporting highly dangerous radioactive materials to London. They could have just shot him and dumped his body in an alley.
I’m thinking oligarch with an anti-Kremlin agenda. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Goddamn, my head hurts tonight, and the Advil bottle is at home.
TRex -
Do you really think that they will ever get to the bottom of this? It seems pretty obvious that the killer was a hired hand, but the employer seems very well insulated. Conditions in Russia today do not promote transparency of the sort needed to move beyond the small fry.
Hi Suzanne, this has been a pisser of a day. Tonight I’m thinking of the Lake as sort of a healing spa environment.
Suzanne @ 21
Well, glad the water’s to your liking. Though we do miss your gymnastic, high degree-of-difficulty entrances!
LoudounLib @ 25
I have cucumber bubble bath.
DrDick @ 25
What are you suggesting–that Putin and his government have control of the apparatus of Justice in his country?
OT — but oh jeebus, just now on the news they showed a gas station sign in Cicero, IL with regular gas at 4.09!!!
Everyone clean up their dinner dishes????
Hi friends!
So Iran is the new Cambodia now?
F*cking Hell…And of course Elliott Abrams is involved.
>:-(
Mutant, I’m too forking pissed right now to dive.
Corry342 @ 30
Thank goodness that can’t happen here…
Suzanne @ 34
You OK?
Suzanne @ 34
That’s what cannonballs are for, m’dear.
SnarKassandra @ 23
I would be glad to leave it as a comment. It is actually from a variety of different sources (some of it is material I use in lectures). I can try to track them down for you, though it might take me a day or two.
Mutant Poodle — heh! ;-)
I’m OK, just totally pissed politically.
Evenin’ Betsy
TexBetsy @ 32
Had leftover salmon salad from lunch - no dishes - can I stay?
It’s FDL late night, and I have low expectations for Monica tomorrow, and I’m cranky about Iraq….
My soundbite question for tomorrow at HJC would be:
“Ms. Goodling, what is it about you that makes me think you have never had an orgasm?”
(and the answer would be, “I think they’re yucky.”)
i’ll take a mint plz ty >:]
Wait, wait — theory three is really theory three-A and theory three-B, right? 3A: it was a rogue operation by Lugovoi. 3B: Litvinenko poisoned Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun. Do we discount completely theory 3B?
I like 3A — the rogue operation, since it leaves open the possibility that Lugovoi was operating on behalf of, or to impress, any number of states or non-state entities.
Who has the most to gain by driving a wedge between a post-Blair UK and Russia?
DrDick @ 36
no, that’s OK. thanks
Corry342 @ 30
Only that the country is so pervasively corrupt (between Putin, the Oligarchs, and the Russian mafia) and its institutions so disfunctional that justice is at best an accident.
TRex @ 25
Makes a case for carrying a purse.
Nothing over at Dr. Hillhouse’s Spy Who Billed Me, TRex. I think you scooped the spook :)
TexBetsy @ 32
Yep! Even dried and put them up already. Learned my lesson last night.
DrDick @ 26
Well, if or when it comes to trial, we’ll just have to send me to London to live-blog it so we can find out.
TRex @ 25
So, you’re going with 2, but not necessarily Berezovsky? There are other exiled oligarchs with this power? Doesn’t the London location point to an effort by others to paint Berezovsky as involved?
TRex @ 24
IMHO, the problem is the polonium. it is fairly tightly controlled in large quantities and all the surviving in-russia oligarchs would not risk acting against putin right now. an out-of-russia oligarch would have problems getting the stuff.
And during the cold war, russian agents regularly used outre, hard to duplicate methods of executing double agents and defectors, as a warning to others. “Russian is the best language in the world to be paranoid in.”
TRex @ 50
Oooohhhh, I love London…can I tag along and play assistant?
Does the ENTIRE WORLD know that I skipped out on dishes to talk on the phone last night?? AGHHHHHHHH
Trex Holmes, older and bigger brother of Sherlock is on the case. He only needs Marcy Marple to reconstruct all the timelines for him and the the game is a foot!
Berezhovsky, who doesn’t want to get extradited back to Moscow.
Suzanne @ 32
Come here so I can give you a hug. What happened to you Suzanne?? Tell us so you can feel better. We will make you laugh. I promise.
lolo
SnarKassandra @ 55
The word got out somehow… .
Byzantine is the right word for this mess, TRex.
The kicker for me is the weapon. You don’t just find Polonium-210 at the local bait and tackle shop, on the shelf behind the counter next to the rifle ammo.
The Guardian put it like this last November:
To me, this points away from theory three.
But you’re right about the biggest thing of all: someone wanted to make An Example out of Alexander. They wanted this to be noticed, to put others on notice.
SnarKassandra @ 54
FDL’ers are a gossipy bunch. (hangs head in shame…)
FWIW, I agree that this whole episode was too clumsily done to be state sponsored - I think if that was the case, Litvinenko would have simply disappeared.
I lean towards 2, which means that Lugovoi is alive because his death would be too suspicious…oh, dammit Loo Hoo, got any extra advil in your purse?
Alfred, I think you may be correct. The Russians like to be all James Bond-y in their outside of Russia assassinations. I’m thinking of the poison umbrella tip case - also in London.
SnarKassandra @ 55
QWell, maybe not entire world, but everyone who counts. ; )
SnarKassandra @ 55
We do now!
SnarKassandra @ 55
After it was mentioned last night, you wouldn’t believe how many folks tiptoed back into the kitchen to do a little cleaning up, so as not to lose their commenting priveleges either.
darkblack @ 33
Wow, the comments over there are BRUTAL. Methinks teh base is stirred up by the betrayal on immigration. Their wrath at Brian Ross and Mickey Mouse for telling CIA secrets is fierce!
Suzanne @ 62
Exactly. And thanks for the SWBM link; I read her stuff religiously but never thought to look for a web site. Oh, and don’t believe that “never recruited” line. she’s a pro and pros that good get that way by having sanction from SOMEBODY. Doesn’t make me respect her less, rather more…
Peterr @ 64
well OK then
Too strange this case. Too many strange things going on, Guess I’ll take an Advil, Mutant Poodle.
AZ Matt @ 59
And it really is a very small world after all.
Ot:
I dont know if anyone else has noted this
but tomorrow the WAPOis having a live chat with David Iglesias live chat at
1200 Est.
(back to lurking).
I don’t think this has anything to do with driving a wedge between Putin and Blair (or Russia and the UK). This was internal Russian hardball, and since Litvinenko was in London, that’s where the hit went down. If he’d been in Paris, they’d have gone there to do it.
Sorry I’m late, but I was doing dishes.
-GSD
Alfred, I found her site the night TRex first posted about this case. Dr. Hillhouse joined in the comments here. I hoping she slides in for a bit - would love to hear her thoughts on it.
lolo @ 58
OK, how about bad jokes for Suzanne night?
Rene Descartes, 17th Century French philosopher, stops by McDonalds for a bite. He goes to the counter and orders a Big Mac, Hot Apple Pie, and a coke.
The clerk behind the counter asks, “Would you like fries with that, sir?”
Descartes considers the question, replies, “I think not,” and disappears.
SnarKassandra @ 55
Well, now we do.
All we knew, until your explanation, was that you weren’t commenting because some dishes hadn’t gotten done. Which, incidentally, resulted in some quite clean kitchens at lakeside!
help pick hillary’s alternative campaign theme song over at skippy! vote for your favorite, and winner gets a skippy tee shirt.
skippy, i just happen to be wearing my skippy tshirt tonight (waving)
TeddySanFran @ 77
I make good use of those secret govt webcams in all of your homes. :)
Mutant Poodle @ 62
And Peterr@60
I agree that it seems a bit sloppy for a state sponsored job (though with the way things have fallen apart there…). It is also the case that the Oligarchs really would not have any problem getting hold of anything they wanted. The former Soviet Union remains the largest supplier of illicit armaments in the world (in contrast to the US, which is the larges legal arms merchant in the world).
Advice for Lugovoi:
Run, run, run - Jo Jo Gunne
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0BztuQsrNs
Suzanne @ 74
me three! wow!
albert fall @ 41
No matter what happens tomorrow just hearing her voice and seeing her clothes, hair, makeup and attitude will be worth it. I want to see if she has it going on or if she is a poser. No matter what happens she will be devoured by the media. They are all on notice. What will they ask her, how will she respond will she cry like a girl or suck it up and have that Heathers attitude. I can’t wait!
Ptooey.
Someone put Kool-Aid in my tea!
-GSD
TexBetsy @ 80
RBG still has a leg up on you…
Good post, TRex!
Blowback.
When the Soviet state faltered and collapsed, religious missionaries previously barred entry gained access to the Russian people - and government.
A very small and select cult with access to senior American and Russian politicans helped to loot the Russian treasury, draining central government down to the point wide spread failures in public services, health, and safety.
Making a return to authoritarian rule a viable option..and for the KGB chief to become President.
The cult had blue ribbon credentials - Harvard stars who pal with Nobel Laureates.
The Cult of Friedman.
Milton’s fervent believers converted the Russians to the cult of the free market, and sold off the state assets.
Of course, as teh “free market” is merely a religious dogma, the oligarchs snapped up the nation’s wealth in rigged sales.
Kinda like Griles and Norton.
And - come to think of it - just like what Grover Norquist and the neocons did to America…
After the neocons “stopped” being Stalinists, of course.
They did stop, right?
Evening, everyone!
I just got home from work, and I’m doing everything I can to keep from biting my nails and eating a whole bag of chips. My Red Wings are desperately trying to tie up this critical hockey game - if they can score another goal in the next 2:06 of play, their Stanley Cup hopes live another day.
Cross your fingers for me! I wanna see a win.
Anything fun going on here, besides wondering whatever happened to Livetenko (very spooky story) and learning that Cassie needs to do the dishes? ;)
By the way. Kentucky’s GOP, true to form nominated the corrupt and unpopular Ernie Fletcher for another go around.
Maybe Fletch can pardon some more criminals while he’s at it.
I wonder if there will be any MSM talk about how corrupt the GOP is with this election? Naw.
-GSD
landofthefree @ 88
I DID the dishes! And the pots and pans. I am cleared.
Ok Cassie - can you come over and do my dishes now? I’ve been a bad girl… I have a few dinner dishes left over from before I wen tto work.
Dang it. 32 seconds left. I really need a goal here.
DrDick @ 20
U S A! U S A !
Who sez we’re not number one!
-GSD
P.S. McGuirk the jerk racist from the Imus show won’t be getting a job at WRKO in Boston after all.
They call McGuirk pariah.
landofthefree @ 87
we are all in high dudgeon about the cavein on the iraq supplemental. we are telling bad jokes to cheer up suzanne. and you should have left off the last line. trust me.
here’s my little contribution for suzanne’s improvement:
a man living in southern california during the 1980’s bought a strange lamp at a secondhand store and inadvertently released a Genie, who gave him three wishes. The man was a student of logic, and so he carefully phrased two wishes to give himself great wealth and eternal youth, but simply couln’t figure out a safe was to use the third wish. the Genie shrugged and went back in the lamp, saying “let me know what your third wish is”.
Several months later, he spotted the Oscar Meyer weeniemobile driving in traffic and began to sing their jingle. “Oh I Wish I Was An Oscar Meyer Ween–” thump.
Need to turn in now.
I’ve got a post up here about Davis Mac-Iyalla’s visit to my church last night. (He’s the founder of Changing Attitude-Nigeria, which is an Anglican GLBT support group.)
Ugh. Red Wings lose. It will be an Anaheim/Ottawa Stanley Cup Finals (and I’m sure Anaheim will win in probably 5 games).
Sigh. I really wanted a game 7 here at home.
Now I suppose I should get to those dishes… nah, they can wait a little longer while I console myself with my glass of petit syrah.
Okay Trex, the wife’s name is Marina. Case closed.
/s
TRex @ 25
Nah. I think this was a message from the Kremlin to MI6 as well as Berezovsky.
We are in the middle of a global cold war, only this time the stakes are about energy. UK has been a proxy for the corporatist/oligarchs (use these two words interchangeably); having already been tweaked by natural gas supply issues due to sourcing through what are ultimately Russian contracts, UK has felt pressure to press back at Russia, probably has been supporting the oligarchs/corporatists.
(Keep in the back of your mind that Iran sits on the second biggest supply of LNG in the world, and that it is much cozier with Russia than with us…)
Kremlin decided to take care of the problem in a way that would knock out a key soldier while allowing enough room for their agent to slip back home. PO-210 was a beta-emitter, not typically detected in airports, could have been carried fairly easily, dispensed, leaving the poisoner enough time to travel back home without detection before the poison did its job. The poison itself is the fingerprint of the source; no oligarch had access to this, only the FSB (this is rather like the anthrax poisoning here; who did it if the anthrax was identified as U.S. military, hmm?).
Only problem in all this is Lugovoy. Laughably sloppy…almost as if somebody else tried to make sure the footprints led back home, or if there was a second attempt because the first one missed. Would you hire this bonehead? Makes me wonder how long he’s going to be in business — unless, of course, the business is a front for payments for a job well done. Okay, maybe not well done but completed.
On topic - just saw this in the Liverpool papers. Interesting.
Late Nite Humor Break at the Lake
Signs, Signs - Funny Signs Collage Music Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQi0J5Feblo
Suzanne!
Don’t make me go to the really dumb jokes…
Rayne, are you saying it was sloppy-on-purpose?
If we’re on the genie jokes:
It’s lunch time at the big law firm, senior parter, junior partner and senior associate come out of the high rise and are crossing the park to get lunch. One of them trips over an old, dusty bottle. A genie appears - he says you each get a wish. The Senior associate says “I wish I was in Paris in a four star hotel”
Whissssh and she’s gone.
The junior parter says “I wish I was on a beach in Maui with a beautiful surfer girl brining me a mai-tai” Whissssh and he’s gone.
The genie turns to the senior parter, “what do you wish?”
“I wish the other two were back at their desks.”
LoudounLib @ 99
Wow. Lugovoy’s denial is both categorical and fact-free.
“I, on the other hand, am convinced that I did not kill Litvinenko”? Well color me convinced too.