why not?

ask not what zed can do for you
ask what you can do for zed

Nicely done!

hey TRex – rough day, eh?

Ohhhhh, Graham Chapman in a loincloth.

Why didn’t he live long enough to be my boyfriend?

hi

“always look on the blight side of life”

Gosh, where is everyone? What am I, chopped liver, here?

punaise, did you see all the genie jokes in the last thread?

TRex @ 7

Gosh, where is everyone? What am I, chopped liver, here?

well, now that you ask, yes. but we try not to mention it. :>

If I whistle a happy tune the whippoorwills will be in the yard all night…)

TRex @ 6

Gosh, where is everyone? What am I, chopped liver, here?

“it’s my pate*, you can come”

*accent grave

I had a bad dream last night where I was pulling slugs out of my gums. I woke up and almost vomitted!

Alfred Kelgarries @ 7

punaise, did you see all the genie jokes in the last thread?

quickly scanned, will drop back to check

cancer_cures @ 12

I had a bad dream last night where I was pulling slugs out of my gums. I woke up and almost vomitted!

whatever you had before going to bed, don’t have it tonight.

Et tu, pate*?

5. You’re not wearing any pants.

NTodd showed up? He never wears his pants…

TRex @ 15

Et tu, pate*?

chopped liver?

TRex @ 7

Gosh, where is everyone? What am I, chopped liver, here?

No, but dino burgers grill up nicely.

Negotiation is the art of getting parties from A to Z, or wherever you want to define the end, but lets take z for now. If you try to go directly from, say A to K, in hopes of going directly from K to Z, you are likely to fail. Its a process that requires a lot of patience–getting from A to A prime, and them A double prime is more progress. You get the idea.

One has to give the congressional process, similarly, time to work, because it is a slow dance.

On the other hand, its clear that the public is going to have to drag the pols along here. Mass action, in my view, is the key. Gotta call in the infantry here, and get some boots on the ground in NY, Chi, SFO and DC, DC, DC.

Don’t forget the spirit of seattle

One other thing to console myself with — good results in today’s Kentucky primary. Looks like the most decent of the Dems running for governor (Steve Beshear) won’t have to do a run-off election, and he’ll be up against our very own Ernie “excuse me while I pardon myself” Fletcher, who doesn’t even have the (full) support of our favorite Senator, Mitch “I look like your grandma on a bad hair day” McConnell. Heh.

Very good, TRex. I’m really looking to try to find some lemonade to make out of these lemons.

cancer_cures @ 20

Don’t forget the spirit of seattle

absinthe? or midori?

Yes. I suppose I should be whistling a happy tune.

The FDA and USDA decided that instead of having longer and more press conferences on tainted food they just won’t hold any! The regular press conferences were tightly controlled and they STILL are afraid of information leaking out!
(Wait, aren’t they supposed to want information to get out?)

I’m sure that Chinese trade talks this week have NOTHING to do with this…

I read the Harper’s special issue on how to clean up after the Bush administration.
What really made me angry was the way the enablers ask like they had nothing to do with this.

SteveAudio @ 18

TRex @ 7

Gosh, where is everyone? What am I, chopped liver, here?

No, but dino burgers grill up nicely.

Yup, tastes just like chicken.
(I’m sorry, but I wasn’t here that night.)

why not both??Alfred Kelgarries @ 23

cancer_cures @ 20

Don’t forget the spirit of seattle

absinthe? or midori?

cancer_cures @ 26

why not both??Alfred Kelgarries @ 23

absinthe? or midori?

IIRC absinthe is illegal…

TRex – how’s the headache – deep breathing often works for me followed by a handful of aspirin.

punaise @ 1

why not?

ask not what zed can do for you
ask what you can do for zed

Not the Pungitive Punster!!!

Helpless Dancer @ 25

SteveAudio @ 18

No, but dino burgers grill up nicely.

Yup, tastes just like chicken.
(I’m sorry, but I wasn’t here that night.)

You just have to make sure all the scales are off first, they burn, get super crunchy, and don’t really taste good.

Nah not illegal. Illegal to sell or purchase but to consume it’s O.K.

I just popped over to Harpers front page and found a story on a familiar topic.

May 22, 1:44 AM
Russian Secret Service Agents to be Indicted in Litvinenko Murder

The headache is finally loosening its grip. I’m hoping that the plate of pasta I’m about to eat puts the final kibosh on it.

cancer_cures @ 31

Nah not illegal. Illegal to sell or purchase but to consume it’s O.K.

ah, so if asked “it was a gift!”. got it.

Hey TRex. Loved Emily Loizeau – Je Suis Jalouse the French video you put up the other night.

My video Thank you is The Pipettes- We are the Pipettes.
They other animated video, ABC is also really fun. They remind me of The Go Gos, B52s and a bit of Bananrama. Oh and a bit of Fountains of Wayne too.

TRex @ 33

The headache is finally loosening its grip. I’m hoping that the plate of pasta I’m about to eat puts the final kibosh on it.

Advil is your friend.

That, and caffeine, are my drugs of choice.

oops…finaly got a good compile. off to the land of nod, see everyone manana for either the monica celebration or the monica commiseration.

sleep tight and no headaches and no polonium.

TRex @ 33

The headache is finally loosening its grip. I’m hoping that the plate of pasta I’m about to eat puts the final kibosh on it.

I’m trying ice cream therapy.

Alfred Kelgarries @ 37

oops…finaly got a good compile. off to the land of nod, see everyone manana for either the monica celebration or the monica commiseration.

sleep tight and no headaches and no polonium.

g’night & sleep tight…

Suzanne @ 22

Very good, TRex. I’m really looking to try to find some lemonade to make out of these lemons.

See Dr. Bonzo at #21. A real Democrat beat a DINO (no offense, TRex!) in Kentucky!

Dr. Bonzo @ 21

One other thing to console myself with — good results in today’s Kentucky primary. Looks like the most decent of the Dems running for governor (Steve Beshear) won’t have to do a run-off election, and he’ll be up against our very own Ernie “excuse me while I pardon myself” Fletcher, who doesn’t even have the (full) support of our favorite Senator, Mitch “I look like your grandma on a bad hair day” McConnell. Heh.

Most Excellent Dude!!! Did the Dem’s pull higher #’s, than the Repug’s, just asking, it is typically a Red(neck) State!!! ;)

Suzanne @ 38

TRex @ 33

The headache is finally loosening its grip. I’m hoping that the plate of pasta I’m about to eat puts the final kibosh on it.

I’m trying ice cream therapy.

Now, now, my dear, must watch that girlish figure, of yours!!! ;)

Well, the majority of the people wants an end to the Iraq crime. So does the majority in both elected chambers. And there is nothing they can do against this slaughter?
If thats what you call “democracy”- why not try a serious system? Any system.

Girlish? CT, gravity is no longer my friend. Thanks – most people nag me to eat more.

PW – how is the press covering McCain along the Arizone highways? My wingnut neighbor removed his bumpersticker – he lives here part time and hails from Chloride. I stopped neighborly chats when he went on a vicious rant about Harry Reid.

I’m always late posting a comment; I must have been the last one on “A Modest Proposal”, but wanted some feedback, so I am reposting it here:

What to Do????
1. All true Dems (and any other votes we can get) should vote NO on the revised Iraq

You caught up with us, Marilyn In Texas :) How are you doing tonight? Any good news to share?

Suzanne @ 44

Girlish? CT, gravity is no longer my friend. Thanks – most people nag me to eat more.

Only looking out for your well-being M’lady!!! (sheepishly, slinks under table!) *g*

spocko @ 35

Hey TRex. Loved Emily Loizeau – Je Suis Jalouse the French video you put up the other night.

My video Thank you is The Pipettes- We are the Pipettes.
They other animated video, ABC is also really fun. They remind me of The Go Gos, B52s and a bit of Bananrama. Oh and a bit of Fountains of Wayne too.

http://www.emilyloizeau.net/index2.html

Emily is lotsa fun! Musically speaking, she’s got swing, an alluring voice, exquisite phrasing, and really does channel the spirit of Brassens with her playful attitude and honesty. Kind of a throwback… I could see her standing up on the Night of Song at La Fourmi Rouge (last Sunday night of every month, when we sing the old folk songs and the revolutionary songs of the Canuts).

Of course, the rest of us posers would be spellbound…

Dr. Bonzo @ 21

One other thing to console myself with — good results in today’s Kentucky primary. Looks like the most decent of the Dems running for governor (Steve Beshear) won’t have to do a run-off election, and he’ll be up against our very own Ernie “excuse me while I pardon myself” Fletcher, who doesn’t even have the (full) support of our favorite Senator, Mitch “I look like your grandma on a bad hair day” McConnell. Heh.

Just imagine — on this terrible, horrible, very bad day, there’s good news for Democrats in KENTUCKY. Whodathunkit? Really, can you believe it? Because I can’t.

cancer_cures @ 20

Don’t forget the spirit of seattle

What IS the spirit of Seattle? I could never figure that one out in the old days, and even now I don’t know what it means when I hear or read it.

Looks like everyone went to bed early so they can watch the new Monica on Cspan tomorrow. That’s what I’m about to do anyway. ;)

CTuttle @ 41

Most Excellent Dude!!! Did the Dem’s pull higher #’s, than the Repug’s, just asking, it is typically a Red(neck) State!!! ;)

In the Gov races, 348,000 Dem votes vs. 202,000 Repug votes. However that’s mostly a reflection of how embarrassed most of the state is by Fletcher, not a likely predictor of November numbers.

On a more local note, we Louisvillians were pleased to see our erstwhile Representative, Anne “I love my Preznit and his Social Security Destruction plan” Northup get trounced by Fletcher, in spite of having been endorsed by much of the Repug establishment (notably McConnell). We canned Anne in ‘06 — here’s hoping we put Ernie out of his misery in ‘07 and ditch Mitch in ‘08.

TheOtherWA @ 52

Looks like everyone went to bed early so they can watch the new Monica on Cspan tomorrow. That’s what I’m about to do anyway. ;)

Is it scheduled for 10:00 a.m. EST?

CT, I’m more of a nibbler and grazer – I eat small amounts of stuff all day long. no need to slink under your table :)

Dr. Bonzo @ 53

CTuttle @ 41

Most Excellent Dude!!! Did the Dem’s pull higher #’s, than the Repug’s, just asking, it is typically a Red(neck) State!!! ;)

In the Gov races, 348,000 Dem votes vs. 202,000 Repug votes. However that’s mostly a reflection of how embarrassed most of the state is by Fletcher, not a likely predictor of November numbers.

On a more local note, we Louisvillians were pleased to see our erstwhile Representative, Anne “I love my Preznit and his Social Security Destruction plan” Northup get trounced by Fletcher, in spite of having been endorsed by much of the Repug establishment (notably McConnell). We canned Anne in ‘06 — here’s hoping we put Ernie out of his misery in ‘07 and ditch Mitch in ‘08.

Awesome, Even with the caveat!!!

I’m always posting late; I think I was the last commenter on the Modest Proposal article. I wanted feeback, so I’m reposting here.

What Democrats in the House and Senate must do:

1. All true Dems (and any other votes we can get) should vote NO on the revised Iraq funding bill compromise (give away).
2. Alternatively, Dems in conference committee should reinstate the withdrawal of troops timelines or some provision that would ban continued surges etc. This would provoke a veto but it will continue to erode Bush’s plaint that Democrats are not supporting the troops.
3. Also, Democrats should repeat and repeat and repeat that the earlier Defense Appropriation legislation has amply money from which Bush can draw (he threatened to take the money from other pots, remember?) Therefore, the Democrats are not NOT SUPPORTING the TROOPS!
4. Continue, vith vigor, hearings and investigations into Republican scandals and worng doings all the way into 2008.
5. Since it is obvious that we do not have a veto proof majority and could probably not sustain a conviction under impeachment, we should continue to emphasize that any future death of our troops are laid at the feet of Bush et al.
6. Democratics in Congress (I’m sure they know) may not have the votes, but they do have the power to allow legislation to be voted on. USE THAT POWER!!!

ET, yes. That’s 7am, west coast. Gotta get the coffeemaker set up.

ET, what time is that for you? 6am or 5?

TheOtherWA @ 58

ET, yes. That’s 7am, west coast. Gotta get the coffeemaker set up.

Or 6:00 am wester coast. Thanks. So do you know what the spirit of Seattle is, OWA?

Suzanne @ 55

CT, I’m more of a nibbler and grazer – I eat small amounts of stuff all day long. no need to slink under your table :)

A Bird, that’s what my wife calls me, meanwhile, she just had a steak and lobster meal on the Spirit of Aloha, as its sailing to view the volcano, on the Big Isle, bound for Maui and ports beyond!

So do you know what the spirit of Seattle is, OWA?

No, hahaha. It sounds like a ship, but that’s a guess.

ET – it is 10 a.m. EST and this ole brat better get to bed in hope of catching the start of what I hope and trust proves a happier day than this one.

Sweet dreams all you fine firepups and thanks for another memorable late and late late nite on this wondrous lake.

Nite everyone. See you in the morning!

newspaperbrat @ 63

ET – it is 10 a.m. EST and this ole brat better get to bed in hope of catching the start of what I hope and trust proves a happier day than this one.

Sweet dreams all you fine firepups and thanks for another memorable late and late late nite on this wondrous lake.

Amen, NPB, one gotcha, after another, would be mighty sweet!!! Nite!!!

I’m gonna be headed off to bed soon myself. This firepup is tired.

Suzanne @ 66

I’m gonna be headed off to bed soon myself. This firepup is tired.

I’ll bid you a fond adieu, ma cheri!!! ;)

TheOtherWA @ 64

Nite everyone. See you in the morning!

Nite, nite!!!

g’nite all.

Thought I recognized the name Ann Althouse, and then found her on a “Berkman Center for Internet & Society, Harvard Law School” thing I receive periodically. Who is this twit, and why would people think that what she calls a blog is worth reading? See http://althouse.blogspot.com/2…..rence.html

Marilyn In Texas @ 57

I’m always posting late; I think I was the last commenter on the Modest Proposal article. I wanted feeback, so I’m reposting here.

Feedback:

I thought people freaked out a bit much over this today. The Dems’ control over the Senate is tenuous. The House is showing a lot more feistiness, but this war is long from over and the war over the war is just beginning. Kids still in Junior High School when I got out of the Army during the Vietnam War died in Vietnam five or six years later. If Clinton, Richardson or Obama are elected, that will be the case with this war too – a generational war against an ideology which we fuel more than we eradicate.

This is the most senseless war in our country’s history, but our political system is under attack more from within than from without. But by expanding influence in the US House in 2008, progressives can win back control of this country.

Yup, me too. Good night, everybody. Big day tomorrow. Everybody get your favorite blue dress and stay away from UV lights.

See you at the hearings!

Marilyn In Texas @ 57

I’m always posting late; I think I was the last commenter on the Modest Proposal article. I wanted feeback, so I’m reposting here.

What Democrats in the House and Senate must do:

1. All true Dems (and any other votes we can get) should vote NO on the revised Iraq funding bill compromise (give away).
2. Alternatively, Dems in conference committee should reinstate the withdrawal of troops timelines or some provision that would ban continued surges etc. This would provoke a veto but it will continue to erode Bush’s plaint that Democrats are not supporting the troops.
3. Also, Democrats should repeat and repeat and repeat that the earlier Defense Appropriation legislation has amply money from which Bush can draw (he threatened to take the money from other pots, remember?) Therefore, the Democrats are not NOT SUPPORTING the TROOPS!
4. Continue, vith vigor, hearings and investigations into Republican scandals and worng doings all the way into 2008.
5. Since it is obvious that we do not have a veto proof majority and could probably not sustain a conviction under impeachment, we should continue to emphasize that any future death of our troops are laid at the feet of Bush et al.
6. Democratics in Congress (I’m sure they know) may not have the votes, but they do have the power to allow legislation to be voted on. USE THAT POWER!!!

I had mentioned upthread, the Dems need to keep ramming the same bill down his throat!!! If he vetoes it, its his political loss, period!!! The masses rejected Shrub’s maladministration, resoundingly, both Houses!!! The only loss the Dems face is their resolve!!!

TRex @ 72

Yup, me too. Good night, everybody. Big day tomorrow. Everybody get your favorite blue dress and stay away from UV lights.

See you at the hearings!

Roger that, T!!! Good Night!!!

Ed*ard Teller @ 71

Marilyn In Texas @ 57

I’m always posting late; I think I was the last commenter on the Modest Proposal article. I wanted feeback, so I’m reposting here.

Feedback:

I thought people freaked out a bit much over this today. The Dems’ control over the Senate is tenuous. The House is showing a lot more feistiness, but this war is long from over and the war over the war is just beginning. [….]

This is the most senseless war in our country’s history, but our political system is under attack more from within than from without. But by expanding influence in the US House in 2008, progressives can win back control of this country.

ET, agreed.
I posted 2 threads ago about an item no one
else mentioned today — the massive base construction. Massive.
We are in this for the long haul.
We have to see the big pic.
We have to conceptualize the equation so that it includes the *concrete* establishment we are creating over there.
No one has talked about this so far.
This ain’t no straw piggy house that’s gonna get blown over by “tough talk.”
It’s brick. And built to last.

TribeScribe @ 75

ET, agreed.
I posted 2 threads ago about an item no one
else mentioned today — the massive base construction. Massive.
We are in this for the long haul.
We have to see the big pic.
We have to conceptualize the equation so that it includes the *concrete* establishment we are creating over there.
No one has talked about this so far.
This ain’t no straw piggy house that’s gonna get blown over by “tough talk.”
It’s brick. And built to last.

web sites like antiwar.com, whatreallyhappened.com and counterpunch.org have been reporting about the long-term base RFPs and designs for almost four years. Our addiction to oil is probably at the heart of our continuing denial and enabling, but it didn’t help traction that most of the sites who saw this from the beginning were also highly critical of the links between the PNAC guys to Netenyahu’s 1990s study groups.

ET@71, There are far more variables than you atribute! I believe there is a maelstrom headed for the White House, it may be sooner, rather than later!!! The populace is pissed, the national polls are showing increased intensity in the responses to the questions, i.e. “Do you strongly agree…?” It’s pitchfork time!!!

Best article from Beirut I’ve read this week. It is almost three days old now, but Fisk is a great observer. Whenever I’m about to call him Tom Friedman Lite, he writes something quite penetrating, restoring my faith in him.

Thank you TRex for making my day slightly more palatable………….

After my elected representatives decided to fold in lieu of holding the Neo supporters in Congress to some sort of accountability , my
psyche was at the same level as whale dung .

Here’s hoping that Wednesday , May 23rd , will
mark a day in history whereas no one will ever
name their daughter Monica from thereon ……

Nevada Bob

CTuttle,

I drive from Palmer to Anchorage several times a week. A year ago it seemed like every third car or truck had a W sticker somewhere. It has been about 700 miles of commuting since I’ve seen one, or any other sign supporting a GOP shill here, in the reddest of areas in a very red state.

OTOH – lots of people still sporting their Sarah Palin stickers…

I thought the Kalakala was the Spirit of Seattle. What has happened to that ship since her return to Washington in 1998 has reinforced my view that Seattle has no idea what its spirit might be.

Ed*ard Teller @ 80

CTuttle,

I drive from Palmer to Anchorage several times a week. A year ago it seemed like every third car or truck had a W sticker somewhere. It has been about 700 miles of commuting since I’ve seen one, or any other sign supporting a GOP shill here, in the reddest of areas in a very red state.

OTOH – lots of people still sporting their Sarah Palin stickers…

It’s interesting here, we elected one of the first ‘Green’ Mayors, Keiko Bonk, then a DINO, Steve Yamashiro, and then an Independent, Harry Kim!!! It’s like we can’t make up our minds, we’re split between the Greens and the big Developement DINO’s, the R designation is the kiss of death!!! But, those DINOS wreck havoc!!!

CTuttle @ 82

It’s interesting here, we elected one of the first ‘Green’ Mayors, Keiko Bonk, then a DINO, Steve Yamashiro, and then an Independent, Harry Kim!!! It’s like we can’t make up our minds, we’re split between the Greens and the big Developement DINO’s, the R designation is the kiss of death!!! But, those DINOS wreck havoc!!!

The Green Party needs to support the progressive elements attempting to reshape the Democratic Party. I was a Green Party member for 17 years. I’ve left and joined the Dems because through local elections and issues up to the level of US House, the outrage in America can most effectively express itself soon through an existing major party structure. Greens need to re-think any US House campaigns they are planning for 2008, unless they have a sure WIN.

Might I suggest that you just shut this blog down?

There is no further point in long, heavy discussions re Dems vs Reps. The are identically the same. Both scared witless that if any kind of stand is made they lose their job.

I mean you get the same response regardless of the party so whats the point?

Great job Trex.

This is a tougher slog than I imagined.

This clip is a fabulous reminder of what we need to do, and the need to stay focused.

Thanks.

JustWondering @ 84

Might I suggest that you just shut this blog down?

There is no further point in long, heavy discussions re Dems vs Reps. The are identically the same. Both scared witless that if any kind of stand is made they lose their job.

I mean you get the same response regardless of the party so whats the point?

What do you suggest we now do?

Ed*ard Teller @ 83

Similarly, Nader shouldn’t have ran in ‘00 and ‘04, not so much with Gore, but, it impacted Kerry’s #s and base!!!

CTuttle @ 87

Ed*ard Teller @ 83

Similarly, Nader shouldn’t have ran in ‘00 and ‘04, not so much with Gore, but, it impacted Kerry’s #s and base!!!

The two-party system sucks. Alaska provides many examples of maverick candidates and parties throwing the two parties off the dance floor and plopping ‘em on their butts. Up here Greens, Libertarians, Alaska Independance Party and just made this name up today parties have an important voice. Most radio and TV debates and almost all public debates feature the candidates from all the parties.

What do you mean? There is nothing else to do?

Don’t like the economy? Discuss, discuss, discuss. The results won’t change. Same with health care. And with immigration.

Problems with DOJ? Gonzo isn’t going to resign. We all kmow that. Why have meaningless hearings? Monica could implicate Rove nine ways to Sunday tomorrow. He’ll still be around next week, next month, next year.

Why bother to even think about the Dems any longer? They cave. Weaklins. Who’d want to vote for a Dem president? From a party filled with cowards? Hmmm?

JustWondering @ 89

What do you mean? There is nothing else to do?

Don’t like the economy? Discuss, discuss, discuss. The results won’t change. Same with health care. And with immigration.

Problems with DOJ? Gonzo isn’t going to resign. We all kmow that. Why have meaningless hearings? Monica could implicate Rove nine ways to Sunday tomorrow. He’ll still be around next week, next month, next year.

Why bother to even think about the Dems any longer? They cave. Weaklins. Who’d want to vote for a Dem president? From a party filled with cowards? Hmmm?

just wondering, JustWondering,

If you don’t mind, how old are you?

Ed*ard Teller @ 88

CTuttle @ 87

Ed*ard Teller @ 83

Similarly, Nader shouldn’t have ran in ‘00 and ‘04, not so much with Gore, but, it impacted Kerry’s #s and base!!!

The two-party system sucks. Alaska provides many examples of maverick candidates and parties throwing the two parties off the dance floor and plopping ‘em on their butts. Up here Greens, Libertarians, Alaska Independance Party and just made this name up today parties have an important voice. Most radio and TV debates and almost all public debates feature the candidates from all the parties.

It’s truly sickening that we are chained to the megalithic two party system, most of the G-7 is a parliamentary democracy, works great for them! Must, because we lag behind them in just about every category, for that matter, we lag behind most of the industrialized nations!!!

How old? Thats a strange question.

Why do you ask?

JustWondering @ 92

How old? Thats a strange question.

Why do you ask?

Just Wondering??? Bwhahahaha ;)

JustWondering @ 84

Might I suggest that you just shut this blog down?

There is no further point in long, heavy discussions re Dems vs Reps. The are identically the same. Both scared witless that if any kind of stand is made they lose their job.

I mean you get the same response regardless of the party so whats the point?

Very true. All that is left are “Monica” and “Libby” and their pretty crimes that are or will be pardoned. Who cares? But what the world handwringingly is looking and hoping for, an end to the occupation of Iraq, the wholesale killings of civilians- all committed by the troops from the “shining city on the hill”: no progress!

Your stand to loose whatever few supporters you may still have. Farewell.

JustWondering @ 92

How old? Thats a strange question.

Why do you ask?

Because I get an image of young – under 40 – and impatient. I’m 60.

Rainer, I agree that pressure must be applied to our elected reps, we need to provide that backbone to stiffen their spines! We must impose the Will of the People, For the People!!!

Interesting. I thought it might have been because of my word choice and/or useage.

Actually, I am retired. I was a mathematician until the powers that be decided I was no longer competent enough to understand my own papers and research.

So I was farmed out, fobed off with a nice pension. Now I spend my time reading blogs and working in my garden.

Many years ago (immediately after college) though I was a TC (tank commander) in the US Army and saw exactly what war is all about. Thus my impatience today with this vote.

JustWondering @ 97

Interesting. I thought it might have been because of my word choice and/or useage.

Actually, I am retired. I was a mathematician until the powers that be decided I was no longer competent enough to understand my own papers and research.

So I was farmed out, fobed off with a nice pension. Now I spend my time reading blogs and working in my garden.

Many years ago (immediately after college) though I was a TC (tank commander) in the US Army and saw exactly what war is all about. Thus my impatience today with this vote.

M60, M113???

JW @ #97,

My hat is off. Maybe I’m too patient.

M60. I was in the Army from 1966-1970.

Ed*ard Teller @ 99

JW @ #97,

My hat is off. Maybe I’m too patient.

Aah, ET, with patience, comes all good things!!! With that I bid you a fond adieu!!! :-)

Happy Monicalia!

Morning smapdi. Hope folks will be live-blogging the hearing.

Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT it’s MoDo on Al Gore, and Thomas Friedman who thinks any foreign student who earns a PhD in an American university should be offered citizenship:

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are all ready. Because so many of us are disappointed about Congress collapsing and giving Shrub his blank check I went over to Krispy Kreme for a selection of their best. I can’t decide between a jelly donut or a chocolate-covered cream-filled. Hmm… maybe I’ll just have both…

Loo Hoo. @ 103

Morning smapdi. Hope folks will be live-blogging the hearing.

Yep
CSPAN-3 too

Mack @ 105

Loo Hoo. @ 103

Morning smapdi. Hope folks will be live-blogging the hearing.

Yep
CSPAN-3 too

Work. But I actually may have called in sick if I were to get CSPAN-3. I get 1 and 2…

Marion, I think I’ll have garlic Parmesan toast from the Costco.

Mornin’ all!

Iraqi police: Body found in U.S. uniform

Iraqi police found the body of a man who was wearing what appeared to be a U.S. military uniform and had a tattoo on his left hand floating in the Euphrates River south of Baghdad on Wednesday morning. One Iraqi official said the body was that of an American soldier.

The man had been shot in the head and chest, Babil police Capt. Muthana Khalid said. He said Iraqi police turned the body over the U.S. forces.
…
The U.S. military said in an e-mail that it was looking into the report, but could not confirm it.

Mornin’ twolf.

Mornin’, Firepups……..thought for a bit that everybody was sleepin’ in again.

ET mentioned earlier in the thread:

Ed*ard Teller @ 80

I drive from Palmer to Anchorage several times a week. A year ago it seemed like every third car or truck had a W sticker somewhere. It has been about 700 miles of commuting since I’ve seen one, or any other sign supporting a GOP shill here, in the reddest of areas in a very red state.

Made the same observation here in my state and wonder how much to chalk it up to some modicum of awakening or simply that most people don’t keep their cars (complete w/bumper stickers) as long as I.

Marion -

You’re a dear soul! Yes, plez………a KK might help quell the queasy feeling that Monica is gonna be just another dud…….like yesterday.

Nine U.S. warships enter Gulf for training
The assembly off Iran’s coast is largest since the 2003 Iraq war.

Hi Loo Hoo, how are you this fine morning?

Good morning pups!

What the Mainstream Media Can Learn from Jon Stewart
No, not to be funny and snarky, but to be bold and to do a better job of cutting through the fog.

Bill in Portland Maine has a poll up about how you feel about the dems move yesterday.
http://dailykos.com/

twolf1 @ 113

Hi Loo Hoo, how are you this fine morning?

Fine, but I should still be sleeping…how about you?

Morning egregious and pups!

twolf -

Didn’t CNN just say Caldwell was gonna have a presser shortly wrt the found soldier?

And I’m beginning to think the ability to “learn” has been permanently disconnected in MSM brains. Guess you’ve heard the idiot is gonna release “new” classified info on OBL (well, yeh……it’s two years old but….what the who!)

Loo Hoo. @ 117

twolf1 @ 113

Hi Loo Hoo, how are you this fine morning?

Fine, but I should still be sleeping…how about you?

Doing OK here, still trying to wake up. Hoping Goodling’s testimony produces enough dirt to get the gonzo impeachment ball rolling.

20 dead, 30 wounded in a coffee shop blast in Iraq:

http://english.aljazeera.net/N…..76FA8E.htm

Waccamaw @ 119

twolf -

Didn’t CNN just say Caldwell was gonna have a presser shortly wrt the found soldier?

And I’m beginning to think the ability to “learn” has been permanently disconnected in MSM brains. Guess you’ve heard the idiot is gonna release “new” classified info on OBL (well, yeh……it’s two years old but….what the who!)

I didn’t turn the TV on yet – kind of dreading doing so.

Is this what you were talking about re: classified OBL info?

LooHoo
http://www.cspan.org/watch/ind…..mp;Code=CS
(I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Cable Subscriber)
Though as an ex-pat Detroiter, I am sorely tempted to yield to the temptation to gat a MLB package)
The pictures jump around on the net, and the sound can be sketchy, but I can do other things while watching.

Salon has a very thought provoking article about why Dems can’t impeach. I guess the bottom line is that we’ll reap the benefits of the Repugs self-imploding after Shrubbery completely destroys his party.
Well, just so he doesn’t take the Constitution and the country down with it.
Sigh!

Loo Hoo. @ 121

20 dead, 30 wounded in a coffee shop blast in Iraq:

http://english.aljazeera.net/N…..76FA8E.htm

The I. gov. leadership has reportedly decided we now only get to *hear* about the killings vs. *see* them. They may not have figured out that democracy thingy but they sure as spit have learned a few bushco tricks. /s/

Morning everyone.
I would say that releasing the obl stuff is an indication that they fear Monica’s testimony.
But, still feeling down today. Yesterday’s news is a clear indication that we’re still powerless.

Thanks, Mack.

I am refusing to be down.
Brand New Day

So either this giving in to Bush is a risky trick play that the Democrats know Bush won’t sign because of the minium wage increase, but it protects Democrats from charges they don’t support the troops. Or are we going to have to get a New Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader preferably some people with brass ones who will end the war.

The repugs sure are imploding. Why is it in slow motion?

twolf -

Is this what you were talking about re: classified OBL info?

Yuppers, that be the one. And re. turning on the tv…………….not if you want to keep down Marion’s donuts! ;-( CNN lost the signal shortly into the Caldwell presser — shortened version: we’ll notify the family before we tell anyone else — Waste of sat. feed.

solai @ 126

Morning everyone.
I would say that releasing the obl stuff is an indication that they fear Monica’s testimony.
But, still feeling down today. Yesterday’s news is a clear indication that we’re still powerless.

Clever with shiny object? Fool me once…

I thought they already passed a minimum wage bill.

cnn about monica right now

Now would be a great time for someone in the Senate like Feingold to filibuster any Democrat who is runing for President and is in the Senate could get a lot of points with us if they filibustered this. The vote is supposed to happen before the Holiday weekend so they would not even have to filibuster that long. After the long weekend I’m sure there will be a few more Congresmen and Senators who after talking to people in their home districts will decide to vote against the war. That and with gas prices expected to rise even more over the holiday weekend Bush is sure to go down even further in the polls.

solai @ 133

I thought they already passed a minimum wage bill.

The Republicans are holding it up in the Senate thats why the Democrats are attaching it to the no strings military spending bill.

Things Come Undone @ 135

Now would be a great time for someone in the Senate like Feingold to filibuster any Democrat who is runing for President and is in the Senate could get a lot of points with us if they filibustered this. The vote is supposed to happen before the Holiday weekend so they would not even have to filibuster that long. After the long weekend I’m sure there will be a few more Congresmen and Senators who after talking to people in their home districts will decide to vote against the war. That and with gas prices expected to rise even more over the holiday weekend Bush is sure to go down even further in the polls.

Is there any hope that that could happen?

solai -

I would say that releasing the obl stuff is an indication that they fear Monica’s testimony.

I like your analysis – here’s hoping it produces the desired results!

Loo Hoo -

Ya think Monica’s just another shiny? After yesterday I’m beginning to feel like *everything* is nothing but…. real grumpy here at this end of the toobz b/c it’s gettin’ harder and harder to see any rays of sunshine out of DC.

Maybe Dodd would filibuster

solai @ 133

I thought they already passed a minimum wage bill.

House did, senate did not.

Mornin all…

D.Iglesias will be WaPo chatting 12:30 eastern today….interesting, no?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00928.html

questions?

Good Morning, Firepups!

I’m going for bagels. The coffee’s hot, there’s a pot of hot water for tea. I was heartsick last night, but “brightly dawns” the new day.

Work for peace, every day.

Waccamaw @ 138

solai -

I would say that releasing the obl stuff is an indication that they fear Monica’s testimony.

I like your analysis – here’s hoping it produces the desired results!

Loo Hoo -

Ya think Monica’s just another shiny? After yesterday I’m beginning to feel like *everything* is nothing but…. real grumpy here at this end of the toobz b/c it’s gettin’ harder and harder to see any rays of sunshine out of DC.

No, I think releasing the OBL stuff is the shiny object to deflect Monica’s testimony.

Oh, me too Loo Hoo. Ready to freakin scream. And I have to go to work, act professionally, not discuss all that’s monopolizing my brain and somehow remain sane.

ok, i finally turned on the tv. CNN has breaking news: When your kids punch each other in the head, it may be hazardous to their health… paging Dr. Gupta!

Solai its possible but so far there has been no word I am trying to be hopeful we do have options if only one Democratic Senator really does care about the troops. Feingold is antiwar, Webb has a son in Iraq, and Biden, Hilary, and Barack all want to be president this is exactly the kind of situation a filibuster was made for when the founding fathers wanted to put a check on power.

I’m feeling cautiously optimistic. Several good things are happening, tho the pace is enough to tear your hair out.

Marathon, not sprint.

Pick up your weapons, be they verbal swords, shoes, or calling your reps, and let’s prepare to fight again today.

Monica hearings within 3 hours, who knows where that might take us? Chin up, laddies and lassies.

CNN caught in the act of reporting news.

Hey, credit to them this morning, the exchange between the Court TV reporter and Kiran brought out much of the import of the upcoming Monica testimony. Although I do think there’s more story in her WH liaison side than her DOJ chain of command responsibilities.

But hey, it’s not Tweety sniffin’ in her panty drawer and drawing a comparison to Hill’s GJ testimony complete with kleig lights.

It’s a start. And props to CNN this morning.

OPENING FALL 2007
NOW ENROLLING STUDENTS

THE RICHARD CHENEY SCHOOL OF LAW
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING AT COALSTRIP

Dean: Alberto Gonzalez

Associate Dean for Constitutional Law : John Yoo

Associate Dean for Waterboarding: John Addington

Faculty:

Kenneth Starr, Richard Mellon Scaife Professor of Legal Ethics
Courses: Leaking 101 (joint with M. Isikoff), Smearing 103

Harvey “Manly” Mansfield, DeTwit Professor of Something
Courses: Manliness 101 (joint with C. Matthews), PhysEd 99

Ann Althouse, Chivas Regal Professor of Advanced Stupor
Courses: Remedial Vlogging 73, Advanced Mixology 309

Glenn Reynolds, Jed Clampett Chair of Appalachian Studies
Courses: Remedial Logic 93, Remedial Ethics 95, Intermarriage 99

Mark Foley, Roman Polanski Associate Professor of Pediatric Urology
Courses: Communications 69, Text Messaging for Dummies;
Kinesiology 99, Locker Room Attending

Susan Ralston, Greenberg Traurig Adjunct Professor of 5th Amendment Studies
Courses: Media Studies 115, Sergeant Schultz as a Constitutional Signifier
Correctional Studies 417, Turning Large Rocks Into Small Ones

Registrar and Pizza Delivery (outcalls only): Monica Goodling

[Seriously EPU’d and updated from 5/15, with an assist from TeddySanFran]

Gosh I sure would hate to be a Democrat Leader if Bush gets his way on this and then figures a way to keep the troops in Iraq past September. After all the reason why the Democrats are beating the Republicans right now in fundraising is because 70% of the American people are AntiWar. It sure would be a shame if that fundraising torrent turns into a trickle. The Democrats would blame their leadership and Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Reed would then get kicked out in disgrace hopefuly before the Presidential Election.

Upstate funny.

Loo Hoo & solai -

Oh! Good! Two votes for the positive…….never would I be more grateful to see a *rigged* outcome. You guys keep up the good thoughts (what else do we have left?) while I go buy a dead tree and check the crab pots. Catch up w/you shortly.

PS – egregious weighs in with an “optimistic” —– three against one. I yield to the higher power…….”this WILL be a good day.”

Firepups reign!

Things Come Undone @ 150

Gosh I sure would hate to be a Democrat Leader if Bush gets his way on this and then figures a way to keep the troops in Iraq past September. After all the reason why the Democrats are beating the Republicans right now in fundraising is because 70% of the American people are AntiWar. It sure would be a shame if that fundraising torrent turns into a trickle. The Democrats would blame their leadership and Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Reed would then get kicked out in disgrace hopefuly before the Presidential Election.

I had 2 email requests for donations yesterday. Neither got any money. Both got a negative note.

‘Mornin FirePups!

Well, I know we’ve all felt pretty discouraged today. It appears that The Commander Guy will get his blank check… … (today is) another day. And it’s the day the world gets a Brand New Monica.

I too am majorly disappointed in my gonadless party. Why O why can’t they grow a set?? I even heard the Master Compromiser, David Obey, utter a significant Freudian slip when saying summat like “… we will continue to fund the war in Vietnam… Umm Iraq” I laffed at his internalized, cowardly stoppered-up truth and I bitterly mocked him.

Re Monica-of-the-21st-century, I’se betting that the ‘PupChat will be way busy today, handling the overflow when this server backs up from over-clickage and slooooowws dooooowwwnnn.

One good way we handle not over-^Ring here is that we Gabblers mostly stay away from that key here, but when someone sez “new thread!” or “new batch of liveblog!” then we mosey on over here and check. We kinda hope it helps…

Well now I’m off for brekkie while popping up the day’s supply. “Mr. Redenbacher, cleanup in aisle SOS!”

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Ah, the old gratitude list. I’d like to add one more: You didn’t lead the US into a war of aggression based on lies, lies, and more lies.

Speaking of dead trees. I get the paper delivered every day. Rural area, motor route. Rec’d letter last week from deliverer. Forced to quit, gas prices taking any profit away. He hasn’t been replaced.

Love your heads-up- ahead of the media, Trex.
Our state legislature was the focus last eve. Some good people but a number of Repugs that act so childish. And I mean acting as in bad theatre. Maybe Christy can do a post on the etoh drinking in our state legislature.
Anyway, love ya.

allan_in_upstate says

you forgot Dr Laura as Guidence Counsler
seems her son got his myspace page closed by the army I read the article and it seems rather sick. Crooks and Liars and Brad Blog have the story that plus he kicked a female protester who was on the ground at the Republican Convention. What did she do to that kid that turned him into a twisted freak?

solai @ 153

Things Come Undone @ 150

Gosh I sure would hate to be a Democrat Leader if Bush gets his way on this and then figures a way to keep the troops in Iraq past September. After all the reason why the Democrats are beating the Republicans right now in fundraising is because 70% of the American people are AntiWar. It sure would be a shame if that fundraising torrent turns into a trickle. The Democrats would blame their leadership and Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Reed would then get kicked out in disgrace hopefuly before the Presidential Election.

I had 2 email requests for donations yesterday. Neither got any money. Both got a negative note.

Cool!

mornin’

yes, very funny allan in upstate

brought doughnuts for all

Gabbly is blocked for me at work.

S.O.S. from MA @ 154

Have been wanting to place a pin but cannot find button for “Would NOT vote for God if running on a Republican ticket”

Just heard NPR’s not-quite-gelded-yet Nina Totenberg giving a heads-up about Monica’s upcoming testimony today.

(And U should pls pardon the gender inappropriateness of “gelded”) LOL

solai @ 156

Speaking of dead trees. I get the paper delivered every day. Rural area, motor route. Rec’d letter last week from deliverer. Forced to quit, gas prices taking any profit away. He hasn’t been replaced.

Sad. The paper should pick up the difference, which means the reader should pick it up. Just like the consumer is paying more for everything.

Hurray for Exxon Mobil.

Arnie @ 162

S.O.S. from MA @ 154 — Have been wanting to place a pin but cannot find button for “Would NOT vote for God if running on a Republican ticket”

Bwa-ha-HAA :) But the silly freebie Frappr map only offers some limited # of different pin types, which I used up! Believe me, if I thought that God would ever run as a Repug, I surely woulda offered a pin for that, but no worries on that score — at least not here. :)

After yestiddy though, I do regret not having devoted a pin-type to “Would NOT vote for God if running on a Democratic ticket!” Cowardly Democratic geldings and beeyotches who could ever vote for that ignominious capitulation.

It appears there is a way for troops to get re-assigned out of Iraq, if they follow this Marine’s lead:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..dont-tell/

New thread…

Scarecrow argues for impeachment in the new thread.

We Can’t Stop The War Without Removing Bush/Cheney

Oy, I so hate being EPU’ed :) :)

New thread from Scarecrow

Hello, SOS in MA! i’ll pay attention!

egregious @ 147

I’m feeling cautiously optimistic. Several good things are happening, tho the pace is enough to tear your hair out.

Marathon, not sprint.

Pick up your weapons, be they verbal swords, shoes, or calling your reps, and let’s prepare to fight again today.

Monica hearings within 3 hours, who knows where that might take us? Chin up, laddies and lassies.

I agree with you, EG. Even though the slo-mo is maddening, there has been a shift in the culture of America, and it is picking up steam. I would give documentation but here is not the place and time.

Chickenshit Democrats, particularly the so-called Blue Dogs, who in reality are the Blue Pussies.