Comments on: Endless Quagmire http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 00:02:56 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Arnie http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-710155 Arnie Wed, 23 May 2007 07:42:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-710155 <p>Late to party, cannot help commenting: The Demicrat Party in Congress has just shown itself to be CRAVEN COWARDS in their actions funding without limit an IMMORAL, ILLEGAL, AND CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATIVE WAR. I shall BOYCOTT their ilk with my consideration. Every one of them should ask themselves if PONTIUS PILOTE ever got his hands clean from HIS decision; The Demicrat Party now has the blood of America’s children and all innocent Iraqis on their hands and the Kharma of Fascist Germany applies. A pox on your house and all your generations. When will you ever learn.</p> <p>Both present parties must reinvent themselves as well as creating other viable parties - at least five, so that never again can only one party subvert another and administer government. Only by making compromise manditory between conflicting parties to gain administration powers can any reasonable safety be found for the Republic. Neither Republic nor Demicrat parties as presently constructed ever be trusted with power ever again. Only by public funding, stringently regulated, in time limited political campaigns, can the public once again become the rightful masters of themselves. Oh, yes, don’t go clothing yourselves in orange just yet, you need to first earn the right to use that now honourable symbolic color the honourable way, by definitive action to regain your rights.<br /> Consider what you are about…….</p> Late to party, cannot help commenting: The Demicrat Party in Congress has just shown itself to be CRAVEN COWARDS in their actions funding without limit an IMMORAL, ILLEGAL, AND CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATIVE WAR. I shall BOYCOTT their ilk with my consideration. Every one of them should ask themselves if PONTIUS PILOTE ever got his hands clean from HIS decision; The Demicrat Party now has the blood of America’s children and all innocent Iraqis on their hands and the Kharma of Fascist Germany applies. A pox on your house and all your generations. When will you ever learn.

Both present parties must reinvent themselves as well as creating other viable parties – at least five, so that never again can only one party subvert another and administer government. Only by making compromise manditory between conflicting parties to gain administration powers can any reasonable safety be found for the Republic. Neither Republic nor Demicrat parties as presently constructed ever be trusted with power ever again. Only by public funding, stringently regulated, in time limited political campaigns, can the public once again become the rightful masters of themselves. Oh, yes, don’t go clothing yourselves in orange just yet, you need to first earn the right to use that now honourable symbolic color the honourable way, by definitive action to regain your rights.
Consider what you are about…….

]]> By: CruzBustamove http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709939 CruzBustamove Wed, 23 May 2007 04:40:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709939 <p>Perhaps Dr Dean could write a few prescriptions for some spines and some balls.</p> Perhaps Dr Dean could write a few prescriptions for some spines and some balls.

]]> By: Mark http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709762 Mark Wed, 23 May 2007 03:29:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709762 <p>Doesn’t this “compromise” illustrate that our elected representatives are listening to and obeying a different consituency?<br /> I believe these forces are at work…The military-industrial -media conglomerates see this as a source of power and wealth. Also in play is the desire for a base in Middle East to replace Saudi Arabia, control of Iraq’s oil and Israel’s interests as respresented by their extreme right. All of these interests have a stranglehold on our government. in both parties.<br /> The only solution I see is for a third party candidate to represent mainstream America. The platform is simple, end the war, national health insurance, public financing of elections, end dependence on foreign oil, and an unprecedented emphasis on education. Keeping it simple along consensus issues would easily gain 51% of the vote.<br /> Any other strategy will fail as surely as this vote on Iraq.</p> Doesn’t this “compromise” illustrate that our elected representatives are listening to and obeying a different consituency?
I believe these forces are at work…The military-industrial -media conglomerates see this as a source of power and wealth. Also in play is the desire for a base in Middle East to replace Saudi Arabia, control of Iraq’s oil and Israel’s interests as respresented by their extreme right. All of these interests have a stranglehold on our government. in both parties.
The only solution I see is for a third party candidate to represent mainstream America. The platform is simple, end the war, national health insurance, public financing of elections, end dependence on foreign oil, and an unprecedented emphasis on education. Keeping it simple along consensus issues would easily gain 51% of the vote.
Any other strategy will fail as surely as this vote on Iraq.

]]> By: Bluetoe http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709408 Bluetoe Wed, 23 May 2007 01:41:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709408 <p>American democracy would seem to be in it’s last throes. An Executive that has usurped and corrupted almost all instruments of power and governance, a Congress that is becoming about as relavent as the Roman Senate during the reign of the Emperors, a public saited with the smell of a powerful gasoline and spoonfed indoctrination and propaganda and a MSM that is more concerned with priviledge and power than truth and justice. The life of all great nations follow a predictable arc. America is no different despite it’s stubborn belief in the myth of exceptionalism. Only when the people rise up in a tidal wave of righteous indignation will the Republic have a fighting chance. Until then there is nothing but sound and fury amounting to nothing.</p> American democracy would seem to be in it’s last throes. An Executive that has usurped and corrupted almost all instruments of power and governance, a Congress that is becoming about as relavent as the Roman Senate during the reign of the Emperors, a public saited with the smell of a powerful gasoline and spoonfed indoctrination and propaganda and a MSM that is more concerned with priviledge and power than truth and justice. The life of all great nations follow a predictable arc. America is no different despite it’s stubborn belief in the myth of exceptionalism. Only when the people rise up in a tidal wave of righteous indignation will the Republic have a fighting chance. Until then there is nothing but sound and fury amounting to nothing.

]]> By: Blender http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709402 Blender Wed, 23 May 2007 01:39:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709402 <p>well, the “Democrat” majority decided to get down on their knees and suck it. How many of Pelosi’s children/grandchildren are heading over to Iraq to protect our “freedom?” She’s more than willing to put them up on stage; maybe she should encourage them to take a few bullets for the neocons. </p> <p>The Dems have betrayed us.</p> well, the “Democrat” majority decided to get down on their knees and suck it. How many of Pelosi’s children/grandchildren are heading over to Iraq to protect our “freedom?” She’s more than willing to put them up on stage; maybe she should encourage them to take a few bullets for the neocons.

The Dems have betrayed us.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709313 MarkH Wed, 23 May 2007 01:09:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709313 <p><a href="#comment-709052"><em>Things Come Undone @ 217</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Oil and Military companies should be allowed a 1% profit with the rest of the money going to pay for this war until this war is payed for! Anything less would be AntiAmerican and helping Terroists!</p></blockquote> <p>Now that sounds like a terrific bill to put Republicans in a hole and besides, it would be good for America. To Republicans: Support the troops…or we’ll call you all fascist traitors.</p> Things Come Undone @ 217

Oil and Military companies should be allowed a 1% profit with the rest of the money going to pay for this war until this war is payed for! Anything less would be AntiAmerican and helping Terroists!

Now that sounds like a terrific bill to put Republicans in a hole and besides, it would be good for America. To Republicans: Support the troops…or we’ll call you all fascist traitors.

]]> By: john in sacramento http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709257 john in sacramento Wed, 23 May 2007 00:54:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709257 <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_mind">Never mind</a>, it’s back</p> Never mind, it’s back

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709256 MarkH Wed, 23 May 2007 00:53:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709256 <p><a href="#comment-708969"><em>snowbird42 @ 140</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>So now this<br /> ABC News: Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran</p></blockquote> <p>Well, at least it wasn’t action against Hungary or Denmark or someone else who hasn’t attacked us.</p> <p>Nincompoops rule!</p> snowbird42 @ 140

So now this
ABC News: Bush Authorizes New Covert Action Against Iran

Well, at least it wasn’t action against Hungary or Denmark or someone else who hasn’t attacked us.

Nincompoops rule!

]]> By: Phule http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709240 Phule Wed, 23 May 2007 00:48:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709240 <blockquote><p>228 Corry342 says: </p> <p>May 22nd, 2007 at 4:48 pm </p> <p>TexBetsy @ 224</p> <p>Phule @ 219</p> <p>They had them before they were getting paid too. So?</p> <p>I’ll do it for $300 million, and how do you know I don’t have nukes in the bathroom closet?</p> <p>Final offer: I’ll do it for $200 Million, and I will never let Hans Blix come to our house (I would meet him for coffee downtown, and buy, since I could afford it) </p></blockquote> <p>$50 million and I will bite the head off of a live chicken in front of the UN building. :P</p>

228 Corry342 says:

May 22nd, 2007 at 4:48 pm

TexBetsy @ 224

Phule @ 219

They had them before they were getting paid too. So?

I’ll do it for $300 million, and how do you know I don’t have nukes in the bathroom closet?

Final offer: I’ll do it for $200 Million, and I will never let Hans Blix come to our house (I would meet him for coffee downtown, and buy, since I could afford it)

$50 million and I will bite the head off of a live chicken in front of the UN building. :P

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709237 MarkH Wed, 23 May 2007 00:47:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/endless-quagmire/#comment-709237 <p><a href="#comment-708929"><em>phred @ 100</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>This is appalling. I emailed Pelosi, Reid, both of my Senators and Rep. All I can say is they damn well better vote against this thing. And I think we need to recruit and promote progressive challengers to EVERY Democrat that supports this travesty.</p></blockquote> <p>Now, that’s the kind of fighting attitude we need!</p> phred @ 100

This is appalling. I emailed Pelosi, Reid, both of my Senators and Rep. All I can say is they damn well better vote against this thing. And I think we need to recruit and promote progressive challengers to EVERY Democrat that supports this travesty.

Now, that’s the kind of fighting attitude we need!

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