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		<title>By: JayM</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-710249</link>
		<dc:creator>JayM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 12:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just read we found one of the missing soldiers floating face down in the Euphrates River. What a sad and horrifying  ending for this soldier– shot in the head and chest and dumped in a river.&lt;br /&gt;
I WAS a Republican but NO MORE,  there is no way I want myself associated this band of numbnuts.&lt;br /&gt;
Now I see what Bush is doing with this “surge” he is hoping he can wait out the civil war thinking the Iraqis will wear themselves out. And he can say victory is ours and history will judge me right—BS. Ain’t going to happen… Bush and co keep getting margin calls and keep making them. BUT remember you never make a margin call, take your loss and move on…not happening here though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This war which is permeating our pysche  is one of dying by a thousand cuts….all so the Bush crew  can save face and leave office with dignity , no scratch that I mean no guilt–well it is not going to happen! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The way things are going over there if  by the end of  summer a devastating event occurs in Iraq it will rock our confidence as a nation –I  hope not but the way things are going , it will only get worse.&lt;br /&gt;
Remember never make a margin call , take the loss –you are throwing good money after bad but here it throwing good lives away after good lives… time to move on&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read we found one of the missing soldiers floating face down in the Euphrates River. What a sad and horrifying  ending for this soldier– shot in the head and chest and dumped in a river.<br />
I WAS a Republican but NO MORE,  there is no way I want myself associated this band of numbnuts.<br />
Now I see what Bush is doing with this “surge” he is hoping he can wait out the civil war thinking the Iraqis will wear themselves out. And he can say victory is ours and history will judge me right—BS. Ain’t going to happen… Bush and co keep getting margin calls and keep making them. BUT remember you never make a margin call, take your loss and move on…not happening here though.</p>
<p>This war which is permeating our pysche  is one of dying by a thousand cuts….all so the Bush crew  can save face and leave office with dignity , no scratch that I mean no guilt–well it is not going to happen! </p>
<p>The way things are going over there if  by the end of  summer a devastating event occurs in Iraq it will rock our confidence as a nation –I  hope not but the way things are going , it will only get worse.<br />
Remember never make a margin call , take the loss –you are throwing good money after bad but here it throwing good lives away after good lives… time to move on</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-710161</link>
		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 08:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709063&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;VictorLaszlo @ 8&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, CNN has a nice hit piece on “High Flying Spring Breakers” - members of Congress wasting taxpayer money by flying places in a government jet. All Dems, natch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s on this page: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/video/&quot;&gt;CNN video&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edit: here’s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0D-S4MTdY&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt; to the story on YouTube&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are no Repugs in this report because  their good friends in the oil industry comp all their junkets. No need for tax dollars there, the price gouging at the pump will cover those costs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709063"><em>VictorLaszlo @ 8</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Anyway, CNN has a nice hit piece on “High Flying Spring Breakers” &#8211; members of Congress wasting taxpayer money by flying places in a government jet. All Dems, natch.</p>
<p>It’s on this page: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/">CNN video</a></p>
<p>Edit: here’s a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0D-S4MTdY">LINK</a> to the story on YouTube</p>
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<p>There are no Repugs in this report because  their good friends in the oil industry comp all their junkets. No need for tax dollars there, the price gouging at the pump will cover those costs.</p>
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		<title>By: JustWondering</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-710053</link>
		<dc:creator>JustWondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 05:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is the point of any more of these committee hearings?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regardless of whats found, the Dems will cave in, give their seal of approval. Waste of time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will vote for ANYONE (for president) who says end the stupidity of Iraq. And if its a Rep who says that and I think they have the best chance of winning, they get my vote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the point of any more of these committee hearings?</p>
<p>Regardless of whats found, the Dems will cave in, give their seal of approval. Waste of time.</p>
<p>I will vote for ANYONE (for president) who says end the stupidity of Iraq. And if its a Rep who says that and I think they have the best chance of winning, they get my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I PREDICT…….Monica will break down and start crying on the stand tomorrow which will ellicit a sympathy vote for her and go against those big bad bullie democrats who ask her question s about why she wanted to keep americans from voting by putting political hacks in at USA position s and why in gods name is Tim Griffin still sitting as a USA in Arkansas?????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I PREDICT…….Monica will break down and start crying on the stand tomorrow which will ellicit a sympathy vote for her and go against those big bad bullie democrats who ask her question s about why she wanted to keep americans from voting by putting political hacks in at USA position s and why in gods name is Tim Griffin still sitting as a USA in Arkansas?????</p>
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		<title>By: albert fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709271&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frank Probst @ 190&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You know, I’ve heard a lot about how high-priced her defense team is, but they don’t seem to be doing much, at least not for her.  A good lawyer would have worked those documents into an immunity deal.  Hers didn’t.  Instead, her legal team all but dared Congress to charge her (and themselves, for that matter) with contempt.  She doesn’t strike me as someone who’s slick enough to bullshit her way through a hearing, and if she perjures herself, she may wind up with no immunity at all.  The ONLY good legal advice she should have been given would be to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  A good lawyer would have told her to own up to EVERYTHING.  If she fudged on her taxes 10 years ago, she should put that on the record now.  (”Those silly loyalty oaths Karl told me to administer made me think of that time I cheated on my taxes in 1996.  Or maybe I was just remembering all that pot I smoked in college.  If it weren’t for my illegal handgun, I don’t know how I would have found the strength to go on.”)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She might be young–dumb–naive enough to think that she is going to get to play this both ways.  Stonewall for Karl, keep immunity for herself.  She is not paying good attention to the history of who gets thrown under the bus (Libby) when Karl’s ass is on the line…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709271"><em>Frank Probst @ 190</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>You know, I’ve heard a lot about how high-priced her defense team is, but they don’t seem to be doing much, at least not for her.  A good lawyer would have worked those documents into an immunity deal.  Hers didn’t.  Instead, her legal team all but dared Congress to charge her (and themselves, for that matter) with contempt.  She doesn’t strike me as someone who’s slick enough to bullshit her way through a hearing, and if she perjures herself, she may wind up with no immunity at all.  The ONLY good legal advice she should have been given would be to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  A good lawyer would have told her to own up to EVERYTHING.  If she fudged on her taxes 10 years ago, she should put that on the record now.  (”Those silly loyalty oaths Karl told me to administer made me think of that time I cheated on my taxes in 1996.  Or maybe I was just remembering all that pot I smoked in college.  If it weren’t for my illegal handgun, I don’t know how I would have found the strength to go on.”)</p>
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<p>She might be young–dumb–naive enough to think that she is going to get to play this both ways.  Stonewall for Karl, keep immunity for herself.  She is not paying good attention to the history of who gets thrown under the bus (Libby) when Karl’s ass is on the line…</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-709603</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709258&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;RevDeb @ 178&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 151&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nobody’s giving up.  But we’ve been sailing along for months, one negative week after another for Bush, daily revelations, declining polls, and more and more of the media cathing on.  Then today, we got our butts kicked by the reality that we’re still 30 or so votes short in the Senate and more in the House.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to break out of this, change the dynamics.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to see a discussion of putting impeachment on the table, front and center, and tieing every thing that’s going on with the Bush scandals to that effort — instead of watching them all unfold on little revelation at a time.     Talk about it every day, and relate every day’s revelations to the need to get on with removing this criminal regime from power.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is what we want, and i can’t think of a good reason not to say it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least start with plans to impeach Abu. That would be a start. . . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good idea. Help &lt;a href=&quot;http://priming-the-pump.wikispaces.com/&quot;&gt;prime the pump to impeach Gonzales!&lt;/a&gt; We need some good leads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What would be the best examples of:&lt;br /&gt;
* Perjury?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* Obstruction of justice? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* Hatch Act violations?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* What other laws has he broken?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709258"><em>RevDeb @ 178</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-709225"><em>Scarecrow @ 151</em></a></p>
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<p>Nobody’s giving up.  But we’ve been sailing along for months, one negative week after another for Bush, daily revelations, declining polls, and more and more of the media cathing on.  Then today, we got our butts kicked by the reality that we’re still 30 or so votes short in the Senate and more in the House.  </p>
<p>We need to break out of this, change the dynamics.  </p>
<p>I’d like to see a discussion of putting impeachment on the table, front and center, and tieing every thing that’s going on with the Bush scandals to that effort — instead of watching them all unfold on little revelation at a time.     Talk about it every day, and relate every day’s revelations to the need to get on with removing this criminal regime from power.  </p>
<p>This is what we want, and i can’t think of a good reason not to say it.</p>
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<p>At least start with plans to impeach Abu. That would be a start. . . . .</p>
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<p>Good idea. Help <a href="http://priming-the-pump.wikispaces.com/">prime the pump to impeach Gonzales!</a> We need some good leads.</p>
<p>What would be the best examples of:<br />
* Perjury?</p>
<p>* Obstruction of justice? </p>
<p>* Hatch Act violations?</p>
<p>* What other laws has he broken?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: albert fall</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-709596</link>
		<dc:creator>albert fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709131&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Keith: At least we’ll get a new picture of Monica.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unless she shows up like a Mob witness, with a mask or a bunch of pixels for a head….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709131"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 66</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Keith: At least we’ll get a new picture of Monica.</p>
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<p>Unless she shows up like a Mob witness, with a mask or a bunch of pixels for a head….</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-709587</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709254&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;snowbird42 @ 176&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Feingold updates on Kos. He tries to tell what will happen next.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I wanted to link to a couple really good posts that I’ve seen in the past few days about the Democrats’ strategy on the Iraq supplemental spending bill.  They drive home what a mistake it is to just give up and pass a supplemental that doesn’t include language to stop the war:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/…&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/…&quot;&gt;http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/…&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/121834/274&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/121834/274&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Feingold is my kinda guy, along with Edwards. He “stoops” to write on DailyKos, and when he does, he doesn’t sound like he dropped in from another planet– He sounds comfortable with the medium and his audience, like he knows us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709254"><em>snowbird42 @ 176</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Feingold updates on Kos. He tries to tell what will happen next.</p>
<blockquote><p>I wanted to link to a couple really good posts that I’ve seen in the past few days about the Democrats’ strategy on the Iraq supplemental spending bill.  They drive home what a mistake it is to just give up and pass a supplemental that doesn’t include language to stop the war:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/…">http://www.dailykos.com/…</a></p>
<p><a href="http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/…">http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/…</a>
</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/121834/274">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/121834/274</a></p>
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<p>Feingold is my kinda guy, along with Edwards. He “stoops” to write on DailyKos, and when he does, he doesn’t sound like he dropped in from another planet– He sounds comfortable with the medium and his audience, like he knows us.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/22/do-the-perp-walk/#comment-709478</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 02:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709312&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 218&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gore tells King he may be a candidate for prez ‘at some future date’.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh My Goddess&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gore/Edwards ‘08&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope Rahm chokes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709312"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 218</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Gore tells King he may be a candidate for prez ‘at some future date’.</p>
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<p>Oh My Goddess</p>
<p>Gore/Edwards ‘08</p>
<p>Hope Rahm chokes.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-709264&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 183&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Okay, let’s do it, let’s get out the chalkboard and chalk and do the delta-plus analysis on fixes to the Joementum problem.  I’ve had enough of this little twerp.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option: Remove Joementum’s committee seats, particularly the Chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Plus:&lt;/em&gt; Removes leverage from Rove’s manipulation; Rove can no longer thwart investigations by the Senate equivalent of the House Oversight Committee, and Bush can no longer rely on lack of oversight on DHS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Delta:&lt;/em&gt; Retaliation by Rove who may already have encouraged Joe to quit Dems if he loses committees.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Plus:&lt;/em&gt; Dems retain majority status anyhow, through 110th Congress’ duration, although in terms of vote count Reps will have majority&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Delta:&lt;/em&gt; If Joe quits Dems, Reps will have majority by count; &lt;em&gt;Dems will be unable to ensure that legislation will pass&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay, who’s got a Delta or a Plus to add to this assessment?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I respectfully wonder if the final Delta should be edited:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Joe quits Dems, Reps will have majority by count.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m proposing deletion of the latter half of the above Delta:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dems will be unable to ensure that legislation will pass&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;because I do not perceive the causal connection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lieberman votes “no” on Stop War bills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;vs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lieberman prevents vote on Stop War Bills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the moment, the Dems keep Lieberman’s “vote” by abandoning the legislation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps I’m just too preoccupied with mechanisms, but I fail to comprehend how allowing Lieberman to ensure legislation is never discussed is tactically superior to lacking certainty that legislation is passed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From this perspective, the latter half of the Delta above seems like it belongs in the “Plus” column.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS: Looking at the tactic from a strategic level…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Dem leaders prefer to allow &lt;em&gt;their opponent&lt;/em&gt; to  decide whether and where to enter combat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Much better than the Dem leaders actually using &lt;b&gt;their&lt;/b&gt; power to select which fights to enter and win.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No wonder the RNC types have to pay for domination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The DNC types are smarter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They found work where they get paid to submit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-709264"><em>Rayne @ 183</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Okay, let’s do it, let’s get out the chalkboard and chalk and do the delta-plus analysis on fixes to the Joementum problem.  I’ve had enough of this little twerp.</p>
<p>Option: Remove Joementum’s committee seats, particularly the Chairmanship of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee</p>
<p><em>Plus:</em> Removes leverage from Rove’s manipulation; Rove can no longer thwart investigations by the Senate equivalent of the House Oversight Committee, and Bush can no longer rely on lack of oversight on DHS.</p>
<p><em>Delta:</em> Retaliation by Rove who may already have encouraged Joe to quit Dems if he loses committees.</p>
<p><em>Plus:</em> Dems retain majority status anyhow, through 110th Congress’ duration, although in terms of vote count Reps will have majority</p>
<p><em>Delta:</em> If Joe quits Dems, Reps will have majority by count; <em>Dems will be unable to ensure that legislation will pass</em>.</p>
<p>Okay, who’s got a Delta or a Plus to add to this assessment?</p>
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<p>I respectfully wonder if the final Delta should be edited:</p>
<blockquote><p>If Joe quits Dems, Reps will have majority by count.</p>
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<p>I’m proposing deletion of the latter half of the above Delta:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Dems will be unable to ensure that legislation will pass</em></p>
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<p>because I do not perceive the causal connection.</p>
<p>Lieberman votes “no” on Stop War bills.</p>
<p>vs:</p>
<p>Lieberman prevents vote on Stop War Bills.</p>
<p>At the moment, the Dems keep Lieberman’s “vote” by abandoning the legislation.</p>
<p>Perhaps I’m just too preoccupied with mechanisms, but I fail to comprehend how allowing Lieberman to ensure legislation is never discussed is tactically superior to lacking certainty that legislation is passed.</p>
<p>From this perspective, the latter half of the Delta above seems like it belongs in the “Plus” column.</p>
<p>PS: Looking at the tactic from a strategic level…</p>
<p>The Dem leaders prefer to allow <em>their opponent</em> to  decide whether and where to enter combat.</p>
<p>Much better than the Dem leaders actually using <b>their</b> power to select which fights to enter and win.</p>
<p>No wonder the RNC types have to pay for domination.</p>
<p>The DNC types are smarter.</p>
<p>They found work where they get paid to submit.</p>
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