I know I've had boatloads of fun mocking wingnut bloggers for being the toenail clippings of the Mighty Wurlitzer, unable do anything but echo the messages that come down to them from on high while liberal blogs organize, raise money, push candidates and issues and create a real force within the Democratic party. But now it seems that GOP honchos are openly mocking them too, for the very same reasons.
Says John Linder, member of the House GOP Steering Committee:
"I really don't pay much attention to blogs," he said. "You can say anything on those blogs without any attribution and get away with it."
Liberal blogs have been influential, the Georgia lawmaker acknowledged. But he dismissed their conservative counterparts, saying, "I don't pay any attention to them."
There have been rumors for quite some time that members of the GOP speak privately about what a bunch of useless, embarrassing wankers Malkin, Instahack, the Power Tools, Red State etc. are, so it's amusing to see that they're coming out of the closet about it, so to speak.
There's also a pretty good article in the Washington Post by Jose Antonio Vargas about how the GOP lags well behind the Dems when it comes to an online presence. I don't know how much of the abject mediocrity of the right wing blogosphere is attributable to the fact that, as the Post article notes, the authoritarian, top-down ethos of the modern GOP is antithetical to the "often chaotic, bottom-up, user-generated atmosphere of the Internet," and how much can be placed at the feet of a bunch of second-tier minds artificially sustained by wingnut welfare that causes the talent pool to be clogged by enomous, stinking turds floating on the surface and choking out any possibility of quality writing or original thought from rising to the top.
Ah, the great questions of the ages.
Anyway, people like Erick Erickson are pissed that their leaders are laughing at them. I get it. Liberal bloggers are always written off as "vulgar" and "uncivil," but I'd much rather be considered an effective barbarian than a useless tool nobody bothers to read. Especially for those accustomed to slavering like a bichon frise at the feet of their leadership, that's gotta hurt.
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hey
let go my zedo! haha
JANE!
GOP is top down, authoritarian. Always have been, and now more than ever.
Overheard at a wing nut swap meet:
Dude, I’ve got some TOTALLY AWESOME Karl Rove toenail clippings!!! Do you think Jonah would trade them for one of those used Malkin or Coulter thingies?
Jane writes:
BINGO! Once a lap dog, always a lap dog.
Considering Conservatives own talk radio, and that is what influences Congress critters the most, it is not surprising that lawmakers pay more attention to the care of feeding of the Talk Radio Hosts, e.g., the Talk Radio Days held at the White House. However, Conservative Talk Radio has been getting influx from blogs such as redstate.org, Michelle Malkin’s blog, NRO’s the Corner, and so on…
The top down thing is becoming a bit of a handicap now that the head has rotted clean off.
I think the difference is that progressives are willing to ask questions, where ditto-heads are willing to let others think for them.
I suppose that if you think the world is going to end in the next year or two, why learn anything or make efforts to solve problems. It seems like the fiscal deficit is just a symptom of an intellectual deficit.
Markos post on Ahnold this am creating quite a stir in the comments…including speculation he will challenge Barbara Boxer for the Senate.
Note that John Linder, quoted in the article, is a very conservative Republican.
Boxer/Arnie
Now that would be interesting
rwcole @ 7
Great image!
Tom DeLay tried to rectify things by starting his own blog to counteract the Left blogosphere. But then he made the mistake of going on public record saying he can’t write. That is: He doesn’t write his own blogs. That was a nonstarter right there.
Hi, Jane!
Maybe you’ve seen this already, but earlier today I saw an interesting article in the WaPo about how GOP online campaign fundraising currently stands at, wait for it…$385.00!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Seems they’re not very savvy when it comes to the toobz.
Gee, ya think?
I’ll go find linky now.
rwcole @ 11
Well it may keep Joe Lieberman away from our Golden State during that election cycle.
if those 2 in the picture of this blog entry are any indication of who the bloggers are on the right…. no wonder no one reads / listens to them! what dweebs!
Only the highly discerning can appreciate a finely turned phrase like “clogged by enomous, stinking turds floating on the surface and choking out any possibility of quality writing or original thought from rising to the top.” Bravo!
You go girl
Best
Maddy
I’m also willing to bet that Bush, Rove, Cheney, Gonzo, and a host of others are lousy writers. Don’t ask me why. I just “know.”
Court to decide whether Web site reporter is a journalist-AP
HONOLULU (AP) _ A lawyer trying to get an Internet writer to testify and turn over notes for a court case says Web bloggers shouldn’t have the same rights as mainstream reporters.
While XM plans to launch a new radio channel dedicated to the 2008 presidential election. The 24-hour, commercial-free channel, created in association with C-SPAN and other media outlets, will be called “POTUS ‘08.” (The channel’s name, pronounced POH-tus, comes from the Secret Service code name for the President of the United States).
Could be worse, we could live in Fiji, where “The Fijian military regime has declared anonymous pro-democracy bloggers to be a “threat to national security”, and have attempted to block Fijian access to common hosting sites such as http://www.blogspot.com,” said Mr Haywood.
Well, I found the linky.
Note to self: read post first. Read post first. Read post first.
mc @ 14
Jane’s got the link to article in her write-up…
Wow! I planted 4 links correctly and got a zed.
Who are the matching pair of blimps pictured? Anybody got a “Goodyear” stencil?
-ck- @ 5
Conservative blogs are like bird-droppings underneath the Rove/RNC pigeon colony. Since nothing they say is at all independent, and their fearless leaders know very well where it all originates, of course they don’t pay attention to their caterwaulings. Why should they?
And save those toenail clippings for “you do the voodoo that you do so well”…maybe apply for a little “Faith-based” Federal funding to improve the government and eliminate immorality and corruption. Seems the DOJ is hamstrung on those issues…so why not use MAGIC!
And what “thingies” are you referring to that Coulter and Malkin share in common? I’m not sure I’d want any “used” debitage from those individuals…unless I was using it for bad mojo!
Hi Jane. Hope you are feeling better today. Your post sure sounds like you have plenty of spit and vinegar at the ready.
Who are those people givin each other tie jobs.
I laughed and laughed when I saw the WaPo article about blogging. Too funny!
This is off topic but I just read in the WaPo that Richardson formally announced his candidacy today. Can someone please tell me how he managed to get into the Democratic Presidential debates if he wasn’t a “formal” candidate at the time? I have nothing against Richardson but what’s up with that?
Bad thinking also inevitably leads to bad writing: Plato’s reflective postulate.
newspaperbrat @ 9
A veritable Full Employment Act for Beverly Hills cosmetic surgeons.
In re: House GOP Steering Committee member’s comment about not reading conservative bloggers…
I can see where it would be more efficient not to waste one’s time reading what one sent out that morning for talking points.
It’d be like navel gazing when the barbarians are pounding on the gates.
ccmask @ 23
Congrats!
Biodun @ 29
So does laziness, at least in my case.
So, is a Visigoth blog or Vandal blog?
At their core, the rightie bloggers share a fundamental contradiction with W: they are full-throated in their zealous cheerleading for the War while completely unwilling to put any skin in the game. They who blog also serve?
I think not.
It’s Dear Leader-ship writ wee, in cheeto-dust on basement floor-tile.
OT -CNN: Cease-fire reached in Lebanon.
Splendid metaphorics. Just splendid.
Look at Phelps and his cult of fanatic followers. I never hear of any effective left-wingers who have a group of 100 obedient members who do things as
crazy creativememorable as Phelps and his crew.newspaperbrat @ 3
Hey, newspaperbrat. Jeff Feldman sent me a nice email saying how helpful you’d been trying to set up an appearance for him. Nothing but glowing things to say about you, I kept forgetting to mention it.
newspaperbrat @ 10
Yea, that’s been a rumor for at least six or eight months, and it might be true because Derr Boobengrabber’s still raising millions and millions, and if I remember right at least a couple hundred thousand recently.
Off topic, but kind of a cool video
The Civil War in 4 minutes
TeddySanFran @ 35
Cheeto-dust – FOTFLOL!
Thank you, Jane.
I really needed a full belly laugh today.
Effective barbarians:
Just like the Vandals who sacked Rome in the 5th Century BC (or BCE)…
mc @ 14
Sounds like it’s about what that Iraq Special USAID Fund that Bush announced about three years ago brought in. Remember his speech asdking for the faithful to contribute their own $$$ to help win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis in his little adventure? Well guess how much these wingnuts raised to support their Presidents request?
Here’s that special website they set up to take donations.
http://usinfo.state.gov/ei/Arc…..14442.html
It appears to have been defunct for almost a year (without USAID even noticing, BTW)…and the group contracted to collect the money and set up the web site cost more than the TOTAL collected!
And they haven’t even bothered to maintain the site!
Typical of the Administrations waste of our tax dollars and cronyism in awarding useless contracts.
Visigoth or Vandal?
Sorry, I’m more of a Viking or a Khatan.
peg @ 16
Well …there are the alcoholic, cosmetically-enhanced MILF types that love to do their video-blogs ad lib. Apparently it gives them access to the seats (or asses) of power.
There is a subliminal sexual overtone to that pic at the top. Putting another man’s tie in your mouth strikes me as positively Freudian. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong though.
I was searching on the story of the Karachi man who’d died from rather horrific treatment at the hands of the ISI just the other day after detention stent for over 2 years at Guantanamo and came upon a particularly odious blog called rantburg. A fervent anti-Islamic theme pervades the fetid atmosphere there.
Does this qualify as self-loathing?
Ha! Floating turds! Jane you are spot on. Great post. I wasn’t aware of this backstabbing, but it’s great to see. (Veils slowly falling from Rethug eyes…)
TiredFed @ 27
Yep, the dogs and I are having a very fun and feisty day. Christy is back, it’s beautiful outside and TRex was on the phone making me laugh this morning while I was at the hospital getting blood tests.
I have made the absolute best friends as a result of having this blog. Can I just say?
noen @ 47
That, and the weird passive-aggressive stance make for a highly conflicted impression.
The GOP problem is that they haven’t done anything they can tell the truth about. Their supporters are nothing more than cheerleaders and audiences that applaud when their candidates praise torture. They are attracting the morally bankrupt. Seems to me they’re due for a reality check, they’re running low on credibility.
noen @ 48
Better than licking your comb, I suppose.
BTW I wonder if that means Wolfie carries “Essence of Riza” in his hair?
itwasntme @ 51
We learned some time ago that the Rethugs also laughed at the wakos on the “religious right” behind their backs too. I think we’re seeing the GOP splitting into it’s various factions. The center cannot hold when it’s based on lies and deceit.
“They’re Ugly and Stupid and Nobody Likes Them” must be a reference to Stuart Smalley, played by the lovely and talented Al Franken, the next Senator from the great state of Minnesota, right?
Or was that painfully obvious to everyone but me?
barbarian:
Caption contest?
A young Rove and a future Jeff Guckert.
cinnamonape @ 55
I didn’t even want to read that… ewwww.
Jane Hamsher @ 51
haha. well of course you can. it’s your blog, after all. hope your weather gets as good as it is here. walks in 70-degree weather with nary a cloud in the sky is what spring is all about. Is Marcy there yet? Was hoping for some live and in-erson liveblogging on Wednesday morning.
John Linder co-authored a book with the always very civil Neil Boortz. The book was titled “the Fair Tax” but should be subtitled the fair to the rich tax.
cancer_cures @ 59
I’m sittin’ in yur basement
Sucking on yur tie.
Digital divide separates GOP from Democrats
Republicans playing catch-up in Internet strategy as disparity grows
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18774299/
ThinkProgress: Right-Wing ‘Voting Rights’ Group Has Disappeared
Rayne @ 52
Those are a couple of College Republicans. That photo was over at Operation Yellow Elephant via Jesus General. For some reason, if I recall correctly. those 2 weren’t too interested in joining the military though they supported the invasion.
OT:
Padilla fingerprint match questioned
noen @ 48
Subliminable? Sometimes a tie is just a tie. Don’t you see men doing this alla time? (Cuz I don’t.)
From NBC’s Ken Strickland
While there was much discussion over the weekend about Sen. Chuck Schumer’s (D) proposal of a “no confidence” vote this week on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, it’s “unlikely” to happen, according to a senior Democratic aide. On paper, having such a vote would appear to be a no-brainer for Democrats because it would likely get some Republican support. But in the Senate, there’s no such thing as taking a clean shot on an issue. If a vote did come to the floor, GOP leaders have procedural tools to either stop it or require a vote on on another resolution that would be problematic for Democrats to support. (”How about a vote on if the war is lost,” a Republican aide suggested.)
Always something I gotta look up.
Bichon frise
itwasntme -
here ya go – apparently the immigration bill has set them off
Malkin on the Chimp -(h/t tbogg)
some head case named John Hawkins -(h/t tbogg)
good times – heh
Jane Hamsher @ 39
He is a prince but of course you know that. His Framing the Debate book should be required reading for every progressive democrat and is right up there with Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – destined to be a classic.
FDL book salon rocks!
..and sometimes a tie is really just a phalic symbol.
rwcole @ 69
I read that. What pissed me off about it was the unattributed Mitch McConnell quote:
Talk about talking points.
The brother Kagan in their salad days.
Margot @ 67
Great, why would they wait five years to test the critical document for fingerprints? Can’t wait for Our Man Lew Koch’s take on this….
that’s quite the shot to accompany this post. almost made to order stereotyping.
jerks.
as if it needs saying: the reason lefty blogs are useful for readers of all stripes is they have a fundamental respect for intellectual honesty.
right-wingers DON’T: usually, the truth is off-message.
actually one of them is a United States Congressman – will do some googling to get ya a name
TeddySanFran @ 68
Not even in beautiful San Fran? I visited once… the castro district… during Holloween… It was educational for a GLBT’er from Minnesota like me.
cbl @ 78
Surely not McHenry of NC?
noen @ 62
You forgot to add, “Sucking the Cheetoh dust on yur tie.”
TeddySanFran @ 68
“Wanna tie me up with some of your ties, Ty?”
From another one of my Top 10 Movies of All-Time…Caddyshack
Margot @ 66
Maybe they can pin it on that lawyer in Portland.
scarecrow @ 70
Sweet FDL counterpoint to
in CHS’s Frosted earlier today….
kdh22 @ 82
america wants to know:
why not top FIVE?
http://www.centurionministry.org/body/necktie.htm
kdh22 @ 82
What was that kids name? The one who threw up into the sunroof of the car outside the party? It’s been ages since I saw it. I saw it on a 12 inch Laser Disk, kinda dates me huh?
Wow. I had no idea the R’s were so backward when it came to utilizing the toobz. They’ll be hard pressed to catch up before 2008 as they seem to lack an intuitive grasp of the media. Such a calamity. I must find a teeny tiny doll handkerchief to weep into…
dmg@85
It’s somewhere between 5 and 7 so I thought I would err on the side of conservative (did I actually just type that word? Eewwww!). To be honest, the list changes often.
I know so many like those two idiots in the picture. I just threw up a little in my mouth.
noen @ 87
Spaulding.
noen @ 87
Spaulding
TeddySanFran @ 76
One would have thought that they would have checked ALL these application documents for fingerprints soon after they were discovered? After all these prints would have led to associating individuals at the camps with people running around under aliases?
But apparently that is not all that important? Or maybe they needed to wait until AFTER they got the individuals they WANTED in custody to hand them the documents (keeping their lawyers VERY FAR AWAY) to get the evidence “fixed”.
Check out the first redstate response to Erick Erickson’s blog post:
Spaulding – that’s who we’re up against, the Spauldings of the GOP.
Why has it taken so long?
Gotta love it.
While the righty blogs have been awash in faux testosterone since day one, all they turn out to be is a laughable distraction.They remind me of a troop of Howler monkeys, all screeching the alarm call because the left wing blogs actually have substance.
Getting pwned by their right wing masters?
Priceless.
apparently I’m wrong – they are college republicans – there was an image of drunken congressman partyin’ with the kidz about the same time – but I don’t have the stomach for anymore images of College Republicans – my bad
everhopeful @ 93
“Maybe after our party hacks look at a Democratic president, House, and Senate for a few years,”
I’m hoping that it’s the next forty years.
noen @ 94
Ten bucks says he eats it.
O.K. I need to stop, but you’re right noen, those be the ones! God help us!
Somebody at the Washington Post should tell Howie Kurtz that the right-wing blogs are joke. He takes them very seriously and quotes them far more than anything else.
We need to watch out for the new up-and-coming rightie bloggers. Dear Leader’s Rove will throw this current crowd overboard — probably the WaPo article was the first step — and there will be an entirely new crop of “grassroots” wingnut-welfare-subsidized bloggers percolating up through the current turds, as Rove ladles them outta the bowl.
The primary problem with this plan: the real reichroot folks are royally pissed over the “surrender-to-brown-people abandonment of America” represented by the Great Immigration Compromise of 2007. In his fervent desire for a domestic policy legacy, Junja may have choked off any possibility of the True Believers following him off that cliff.
Who will love W now?
dakine01 @ 80
This is a caption from Operation Yellow Elephant for that photo:
That’s Campus Crusade for Christ activist and College Republican National Committee Chair Paul Gourley on the right and Chris Tiedeman, former CRNC National Treasurer, on the left.
I peek at the Conservative blogs from time to time just to see what the opposition is up to. I think the conservative blogs are to the liberal blogs, what Fox’s “Half Hour News Hour’ is to ‘The Daily Show/Colbert Report.’ The Right does not have sharp analytical skills because they have never developed any. They have no talent for humor because they don’t understand irony, and on and on.
everhopeful at 93: You gotta love this:
I am afraid we will have massive 2008 losses–and even that may not get their attention! Give the Kossacks one thing: they made their party fall into line.
yep, that’s it — the Great Orange Satan cracked his whip and we all fell into line and took over the Democratic party. Please, please, follow that model!
Josh at TPM has a fabulous utube up re Comey testimony & Godfather pics:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
AZ Matt @ 101
I was just guessing based on a pic I saw sometime back. The one on the left looked like he might be a junior congress critter of the clueless kind. Not that most of the redubyacan congress critters don’t resemble that.
AZ Matt @ 101
Oh f**k! You gotta b jokin’. These two morons were on the Exec committee of the CRNC. That explains a whole lot!
scarecrow @ 103
actually, they already have.
kdh22 @ 107
Well, IIRC that’s where KKKarl rover, and Ralphie reed, and Grover, and Abramahoff all got their starts so it appears the standards haven’t devolved very much. Not that they could devolve much lower.
TeddySanFran @ 99
Just like Daddy/41…”Read my lips…”
Then, the fall from grace.
TeddySanFran @ 100
Why would he think it would work a second time when it obviously hasn’t worked the first? You can buy sycophants but you can’t but people like some of the top leaders in the lefty netroots.
On the other hand, the right has always had an up with regard to direct mail marketing. Their database is huge. Richard Vigurey(sp?) built it up long ago and they are a serious force there. Not to be underestimated at all.
a little OT related to the US Attorney scandal: are there any commenters here in Tammy Baldwin’s district? She sits on the House Judiciary Committee and there appears to be background on Voter Fraud cases (pushed by the local wisgop.org) in the DOJ docudump (March 13, 2007, Part 8, pages 821-851). The really intriguing thing is, there appears to be a file name on the last 2 pages of the document that indicates it came from Karl Rove’s hard drive (as a temporary attachment to an email message, given the naming convention in most MS Office setups). Tammy’s website wont let me send her email (gotta be from Wisconsin – probably a ZIP in her district). The note is annotated “Discuss with Harriet.” These last 2 pages seem to be pages 3 and 4 of 4, but 1 and 2 are missing. They relate to Milwaukee voter fraud issues covered in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on 2/2/05.
The drunk Congressman partying with fratboys is/was from New York State. I think a BlueAmerican beat him last fall, but I’m drawing a blank on his name.
John Sweeney
xargaw @ 102
Whaddya mean? The GOP is fucking hilarious, just check out this quote from Dear Leader: “I stand by Al Gonzales, and I would hope that people would be more sober in how they address these important issues,”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oh, wait, I’m laughing at him, not with him. Especially the “sober” part.
In spite of how disgusting they are, one can’t deny that the right wingnut bloggers are good for laughs, I mean deep, rumbling belly laughs – hell, I mean genuine guffaws.
In the previous post there was a comment about whether Bilbray claimed to live at his “mother’s” house in Carlsbad. Other than the Gorgon that spawned George the Lesser, I didn’t realize RePukes had mothers. I assumed they were just found under rocks and slithered into politics as an arena where sliminess and sleaze seemed to work better than many fields of endeavour.
rwcole @ 69
all they need is 60 votes. that’s 10 Republicans. havent 10 already come out in favor of Gonzales resigning?
Uh, Jane, perhaps you are being unkind to Bichon Frise’s. They are generally known to be intelligent and friendly. I kinda prefer Oliver Willis’ subtitle. we are “Like Kryptonite to Stupid.”
dakine01 @ 109
Hope I don’t bust the margins…
It really is so very clear why they are where they are. That’s gotta suck knowing you slit your own throat because your ideology is all screwed up, that it has been for a very very long time, and it appears that those scars will not fade for quite a while.
Oh well, we’re doing pretty well…
I LOVE SAYING THAT!
TeddySanFran @ 111
Who was defeated by the wonderful Kirsten Gillibrand.
Caddyshack- A rare movie with no heroes- they’re all assholes of one kind or another. That’s one of the things that makes it great.
rwcole @ 119
Sounds like the RePuklican Party to me!
The GOP may lag well behind the Dems when it comes to an online presence, but the GOP has been far ahead when it comes to manipulating voters and votes. How’s that going to be stopped?
TiredFed @ 115
Telling the press that Gonzo should resign and actually casting a vote that goes against the wishes of Bush are two distinctly different things. Does the name Arlen (big mouth-no follow through) Spector ring a bell?
Why are the repubs more successful at blocking votes than the Dems were? Why didn’t our guys use all these tricks when we were the minority?
Especially that ‘anonymous hold’.
Tiedeman is a good little Republican lobbyist in Minnesota
noen @ 93
Actually, we’re still dealing with a lot of Judge Smails, too, protective assholes who both detest yet protect their fledgling grand-spawn.
Ugh.
“organ-izing youth”
Oops- ain’t that against the law?
In case nobody else has mentioned it, we bitchin Bichons reSENT THE HECK outa that remark…
rwcole @ 120
Bill Murray wasn’t an asshole.
“Bark like a dog for me.
You’re lean and mean and not too far between.”
MUST.STOP.DOING.THAT.
rwcole @ 119
The gopher was the hero.
TiredFed @ 115
Message: Republicans would like to do the right thing, if only it weren’t for that crafty Mitch McConnell.
and guess who is still the US Attorney in Milwaukee? Steven Biskupic.
“The gopher was the hero”
I think you are right
noen @ 130
ok. you guys have to stop that now. I’m starting to sound like Mutley (you know, Snidely’s dog). not going over well here at work.
rwcole @ 133
Agreed…and so cute!
TeddySanFran @ 100
Oh, the guys and gals that David Niewert watches?
Indeed, ‘behold Karl’s mighty ladle as he scoops to the bottom’…But they’ve always been there, waiting for a suitable apocalypse so that they can get their eliminationist freak on.
The usual gang of raging wallflowers, dialectical dilettantes and pixelated pinatas that we give a workout to on an hourly basis around here and other places don’t worry me a thimbleful as much as those carny rejects.
Solai @ 123
Because Republics care only about their personal power. They care some about their party. They care nothing about precedent or what is good for the Nation.
TiredFed @ 133
It could be worse — you could be me. I’ve got a cold today, so doing the Mutley thing would introduce a seriously embarrassing booger factor. Not even remotely professional — unless you’re a Republican and then it’s probably resume-worthy.
Conservatives have talk radio, so their blogosphere is superfluous. But we are utterly unrepresented in MSM, which why you guys, Kos, Atrios, TPM, are so crucial.
TiredFed @ 131
…And in Arkansas is Tim Griffin.
darkblack @ 136
DB
That’s some beautiful prose you’re working there!!
darkblack @ 134
From p.2 of today’s WaPo article:
Vice president of industry grass roots at the National Cable & Telecommunications Association.
No, this is not from The Onion.
TiredFed @ 110
Oh pish-posh, we don’t need no steekin’ ZIP code.
tammy.baldwin -at- mail.house.gov
You might have better luck emailing her COS:
bill.murat -at- mail.house.gov
Go get ‘em!!
LBrowne @ 138
lol (no more mutley for that one).
There was probably a time when Rush and Company shaped opinion- now they preach only to the converted- and teach em new reasons WHY they are right and beautiful and everyone else is stupid.
Rayne @ 143
thanks Rayne. I knew someone would know another way to skin that cat.
How many turn on Rush with an objective mind as they try valiantly to make up their mind on an issue?..none.
Damn Jane…this is way to fucking funny.
This is the problem for right wing bloggers: the moment they start looking up facts it makes them realize they are wrong. This could actually be a threat to the existence of all of the Limbaugh/Hannity/Coulter vitriol repeaters. They may actually have to think before writing on a blog and that is very dangerous as they may get close to facts. After all as Stephen Colbert said: “Facts have a liberal bias …”
I don’t think it’s about bottom-up vs. top-down, though that’s a part. Right-wing blogs are about non-issues, manufactured issues, illogical loon-mongering–everything from this immigration non-issue to Terry Schiavo to global warming to evolution-creationims to Social Security ‘reform’ to a hundred other things, not least this war. Every single one of their pet issues is easily unwound upon simple reading of the actual evidence. Every one.
So they’re never going to have as much traction as our blogs. There just aren’t enough important people who’ll continuously subscribe to horseshit.
newspaperbrat @ 10
Thanks for that link and reminding me what a great documentary that was. The gentleman playing the guitar on that music, Russ Barenburg, was a technical writer with me when they were building the Saturn plant in Spring Hill, TN. in 1989.Thanks for the memory.
LBrowne @ 138
BAWAHAHAHAHA! ‘resume-worthy’
Administered the Booger Factor Unit; Supervised staff of five future booger blowers; Evaluated fiscal impact of current booger operation; Sought grant monies from DHS for the continuance of the Booger Factor Initiative.
Sorry ’bout your cold.
Boogers
Smegma
Mother Earth
AZ Matt @ 101
The fact that guys like that can probably get laid doesn’t speak well for the discernment or the taste of young Republican women.
Hey KDH22 are you gonna be around for the party on Wednesday?
http://thinkprogress.org/
Im not sure any of this is worth it. Please read the top two pieces
1. We have plans to stay in Iraq for 10 more years.
2. The Dems are going to cave.
Im sick of crying but….
Helen @ 155
You know it Ms. Helen. The bigger question is, are you? You know how much I need you on those days, right?
Hope all is well with you.
What the h*ll is up with this?
Yahoo/AP story up now:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..co/us_iraq
dakine01 @ 108
actually they all got oily and nasty together at the Young Republicans.
abramoff being an orthodox jew, it’s unlikely he would have been in a christian movement.
Geez, even babies don’t whine that much. I’d much rather my freedom of speech (even the vitriolic stuff)at Kos and elsewhere than yes-siring the next suit that walks by.
I love FDL’s snark and smarts. It’s a beautiful thing. And you all have great hair-cuts to boot.
allan_in_upstate @ 141
The Internet is to liberal/progressive concerns, what the rise of talk radio and attempts at civic and state political domination were to the Republicans of the 1980’s.
Anyone, or any organization attempting to diminish that effect is working a left-hand path, magically speaking.
Turk may have been sheep-dipped out of the RNC for such a purpose.
Let their actions speak louder than their words
kdh22 @ 140
Ta, kdh22.
:)
burnspbesq @ 153
There are no young republican women. And I’m sure if you asked these guys in the photo. They’d say girls are icky.
noen @ 129
not if you sought to preserve land values.
sent to Tammy Baldwin, D-WI and her staff person:
In advance of Wednesday’s House Judiciary Committee hearing, I thought I would point out some interesting background related to Steve Bikuspic’s tenure as the US Attorney in Eastern Wisconsin. There is background on Voter Fraud cases (pushed by the local wisgop.org) in the DOJ docudump (March 13, 2007, Part 8, pages 821-851). The really intriguing thing is, there appears to be a file name on the last 2 pages of the document that indicates it came from Karl Rove’s hard drive (as a temporary attachment to an email message, given the naming convention in most MS Office setups). The note is annotated “Discuss with Harriet.” These last 2 pages seem to be pages 3 and 4 of 4, but 1 and 2 are missing. They relate to Milwaukee voter fraud issues covered in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on 2/2/05. Steve Bikuspic is mentioned by name on page 835 (agreeing to investigate potential problems). As to the last two pages, it appears they were first printed out (at Karl’s desk), then someone wrote notes on them. It would be interesting to find out what happened to pages 1 and 2, whether it truly came from Karl Rove’s hard drive, and who write the notes on page 3. Just a thought.
(Thanks Rayne).
burnspbesq @ 153
This concept is as old as the human race, though. There are always those women for whom money is the best and only aphrodisiac. There are others who hate themselves. And still others who realize that over the long run, they won’t have to have much sex, just enough to say they did it and may be produce a pup or two.
It’s just as well they’ve found their kind, although I wish they’d quit replicating.
edit: and you’re welcome, TiredFed!
TiredFed @ 133
wow, a mutley reference. don’t THAT take me back.
Keeeeee-ripppppesssss, man!? What do you have against Bichon Frises??
;p
kdh22 @ 156
I will be here. I have a 12:00 meeting with my boss that I can’t get out of, but I will be here before and after. Am looking forward to it. I may need a special emoticon for “She’s crying again”, tho.
it goes without saying…these same people supported (still support) bush, rummy, gonzo, wolfoid, chain-y, delay, newt, etc etc.
i’m shocked that they can tie their shoes and wipe their ass
Mutley wasn’t a Bichon Frises, was he?
Wait a minute. These conversations are converging.
kdh22 @ 170
that happens a lot here. hehe
Helen @ 168
Give that some thought in the meantime, would ya?
Re Sweeny- so proud that it was at a frat party at my alma mater (Union College). Note this is also, unfortunately, the alma mater of randy kuhl-frat boy forever congressman.
actually, it is a great school and was recently in the news for being used for fraudulent resume of administrator at MIT I think?
ruffian @ 172
if memory serves, sweeney was a lot more toasted than the frat boys he palled around with that night.
One of the methods for getting rid of the radical right wingnuts is to laugh at them. As soon as the public begins to laugh at the Republican talking points, pundits and right wing newsreaders the movement conservatives are dead. The sooner their alien anti-democratic ideology is put in the trash bin of history the sooner things will begin to improve. Make no mistake, however, unless a stake is driven through the heart of their sick ideology it will, like Nosferatu, rise from the dead
Most of em wear loafers or cowboy boots- and who wants ta check their ass wiping?
darkblack: “it’s not just for pretty pictures anymore”
nice with the words, too.
The punishment for being a wingnut blogger is having your readers find out what an idiot and a poor writer you are.
:::
Helen — there’s a tears emoticon.
Good gravy, I hope she doesn’t get carried away, hate to see you flooding your keyboard with colons.
newness
Rayne @ 178
Would that require…colon cleansing?
holy CROW, I’ve had ANOTHER epiphame!
leahey or waxman calls comey back one more time.
in open session he asks him point blank;
“did any prograsm you thought was illegal include stealing private or bussiness information from any members of congress or stealing information from any American you thought nad nothing to do with national security or you thought they could never get demonstrate any reason to evesdrop on their bussiness or priveate lives?
comey HAS to say;
“I am not at liberty to reveal any information regarding any of these programs”
HA…THEN the wing nuts will get it…the administration is STEALING information
leahy goes on;
“withstanding the information you are not at liberty to testify, could there be programs you don’t know about that DID involve stealing information that had NOTHING to do with national security”
HA
comey CAN answer this question SINCE it’s only speculation from his perspective, his answer HAS to be, “I don’t know, it’s possible” or, “yes, that is possible, I don’t know though”
BINGO
howz the expression go?
never ask your witness a questionyou don’t know the answer to?
we know the answers to these questions don’t we, they cannot be anything but
Better than flooding your colon with tears
Sort of late to the party here, but: the Republicans will always be backwards when it comes to new kinds of technology, esp. communication technology. When the Clintons moved into the White House, they found a completely antiquated phone system (I swear I remember reading about rotary dial phones—in 1993). Even their TV & radio programs, which they’re certainly good at producing, don’t actually create any real forward motion—they just reinforce what the ignorant Republican audiences already think. The Republicans are the party of the past, not the future, and their unwillingness to enter even the end of the 20th century demonstrates that fact.
FYI, New thread
rwcole @ 182
tears in your colon sounds painful
I’ve thought about how different right-wing and left-wing blogs are from each other. Part of the reason the right’s so different is because, IMHO, the kind of thinking that goes into their ideology is rather primitive, mostly relying on faith and brute force. Progressive politics has always had to “prove itself” to society and to politicians in general. But proving the ideology to reasonable people doesn’t take brute force, faith and bullying, just a decent amount of common sense.
Right-wing AM radio and confrontation format political programs – like O’Reilly or Hannity-Colmes, for instance rely on communication with the lizard brain. Blogs are probably too evolved to be useful to the far right, whether as a fundraising tool or as a way to develop new trends in political thought and action.
I’ve watched this blog and all the major progressive spaces evolve incredibly over the past seven years. The GOP power blogs haven’t changed nearly as much. I guess when it comes to progress on the internet, believing in evolution can lead to evolution actually occurring.
Blue Dido @ 183
how about their disavowal of evolution, their anticipation of the rapture, rejection of global warning science, rejection of new stem cell treatments, to name just a few
Margot @ 67, the Times had an article on Friday, I believe, about the Padilla trial and it was painful to read. The prosecution is using the actions of one of their witnesses against Padilla; that is, there is no evidence Padilla did what their witness did. The article is very well written and suggests what a travesty the whole thing is. I don’t have a link for it. (You probably know Jeralyn is also commenting on the trial.)
TeddySanFran @ 176
How kind, but I daresay few here would call my pictures ‘pretty’, Teddy… Oh wait
;>)
Wingnut welfare. I want some of that!
I went to the Washington Times website the other day. I wondered. How many years has it LOST money?
What about the propaganda houses called think tanks. What do they produce?
I’m just so tired of doing for free what should be done by journalists and our own government.
Right now the FDA and the USDA declared chickens and pigs that ate melamine laced food safe. This was based on a test that was thrown together and not vetted. Why? So that the industry could sell the 20 million chickens.
and 56,000. Would you expect that the government would tell us who processed those 56,000 chickens? Yes. Did they? No.
BTW, I know whose chicken they are. Can I reveal it? No. Why?I don’t want to get sued by Big Chicken.
My 188, here’s the link to the Padilla story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05…..dilla.html
Snowbird42 @ 155
everhopeful @ 157
From your links, I gather the Congress is on its way to belly up to the Iraqi Petrol Bar for the forseeable future. Just when was this policy ever presented, as fact, to the American public. What was the considered opinion given by said American public wrt invasion, conquest, occupation, and theft of Iraqi natural resources using state terrorism upon the Iraqi people to acheive goals. Start discounting any notion that Congress is going to represent the will of the American public. Only the naive are going to fall for the kaibuki there is a dimes worth of difference between the illusions of party policy goals. The terrorism continues unabaited for the Iraqi population, no real movement to bring the scharade and theft to an end is going to happen. The plan is in place, sorry you don’t count in the scheme of things, so much for meaningful citizenship, another illusion it seems.
Funny post Jane, thanks – you made my day.
I’d much rather be considered an effective barbarian than a useless tool nobody bothers to read
Unfortuneately, the only people who read them are Halperin, Williams, Couric, Blitzer, Russert, Mathews, et. al.
Jane, if you are still around check your email. New pics.
Dave E. @ 149
Twasn’t me – but I agree it is a great documentary.
Maybe gopdopes aren’t that important because the right has found a new venue in which to communicate with their base.
Anyone seen this yet?
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo…..6635/posts
THAT Hannity is none other than Sean.
Right on jane!
Same goes for all the religious birdbrains. The GOP panders to them and takes their money, mouths their talking points, act like they give a hoot — but in reality they think they are a bunch of morons. Which makes Newt’s speech at Liberty even more sickening. These are capitalist pigs of the highest order. They know only money. The fact that their “bloggers” don’t comprehend that is baffling. The fact that the working class religious wing of the GOP don’t understand that is pathetic. They elevate goons like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson — et al — as spokemen and leaders and all thoser schmucks do is get rich. Goddamn dissipation!
They’re intelligentsia in Lenin’s sense, which was a term of contempt. Like compliant natives in the colonies, they are retained to legitimate the administration in underdeveloped regions such as blighted rural wastelands and fiefdoms of Christian superstition. The problem occurs when they imagine that their social superiors give a shit what they think. Most are content to root for their figureheads as they do for sports teams, with vicarious satisfaction and no expectation of inclusion. The ones with some semblance of college education are apt to get uppity.
Nice piece. Of all the divides between the liberal and conservative blogospheres, quality and accuracy are probably the most extreme.
They’re second-tier minds because they are Republicans. No other reason.
OT
Has this come up at FDL yet?
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
Under that plan, Bush entrusts himself with leading the entire federal government, not just the Executive Branch. And he gives himself the responsibility “for ensuring constitutional government” in the event of a catastrophic attack.
And the National Guard has now been replaced by Black Water. If I were Bush I would be as worried about Cheney has most Americans now are. This scares me more than anything else these criminals have perpetrated.
My apologies if this has already been discussed,
@202: GOP administrations love COG. It is their second-favorite masturbatory fantasy. But just like they can’t pork Ann Coulter, they cannot pull off emergency management, repressive or not. Case in point: they had to rely on local law enforcement peckerwoods for most of the human rights outrages during Katrina. You can count on Hobbesian anarchy in the event of anything worse than a 9/11-scale pinprick.
The GOP don’t need the blogs, they own the MSM. They can dictate the messages that come out of network newsanchors’ mouths — why should they care what Powerline says?
The reason the wingnuts aren’t doing so well in the blogosphere is because they can’t tolerate diversity of opinion. Try logging in over at Free Republic sometime and make a comment that isn’t in line with the prevailing orthodoxy. You will be banned from the site within 15 minutes.
its pretty clear that right wing blogs have the pale blandness of franchised food, while the “lefties” carry homemade freshness.
a bunch of second-tier minds artificially sustained by wingnut welfare that causes the talent pool to be clogged by enomous, stinking turds floating on the surface and choking out any possibility of quality writing or original thought from rising to the top.
This has got my vote! :-)
Bad thinking also inevitably leads to bad writing
Ah, finally an explanation of Leo Strauss’ books.
Oh Jane! You are my favorite! You calls ‘em like you sees ‘em. Couldn’t have said it better myself!!!!
“The top down thing is becoming a bit of a handicap now that the head has rotted clean off.”
OK, that made my day.