Over in that special-needs blogging class we call RedState, they're declaring "war" on their Republican elected officials, which of course means that if it's anything like the war they've espoused in Iraq, by the end of it all, their targeted politicians will end up wealthier, more powerful, and better connected than they were before the war, just like Al Qaeda. Good luck with that, kids. I hope it brings you better dividends than your, uh, "Rightroots" Campaign did.
You know, I was a little shocked and taken aback earlier to read that GOP politicos aren't interested in harnessing the wellspring of talent available to them in the form of Right Wing bloggers. What on earth could they be thinking?
This all has to really hurt for all those Wingnut Welfare Queens out there who have been spending the last couple years endorsing those fat checks from Claremont and Scaife and the AEI, building their little blog aggregates, having conferences and media panels, and blogging their wee, empty, black hearts out. Remember when Pajamas Media was going to, like, totally dominate the Blogosphere?
Whither Ace? Tacitus? Patterico? Could it be that you guys have established such a reputation for yourselves as erratic cyber-Brownshirts that nobody wants you anymore? Aw. Poor little pointy-headed things.
But, you know, maybe not everyone on the Right is a frothing, poo-flinging lunatic like Atlas Pam. Let's see what some other Right Voices are saying this week. Maybe we'll find some decent, clear-thinking specimens to report to the GOP as possible recruits for their 2008 On-Line Initiative.
What's Michelle Malkin up to? She's their little Multi-Media Powerhouse, right? Surely, she knows that this is a time for decorum, restraint, and calm in the face of the Immigration Bill. She's always been lecturing us "nutroots" activists that we're too hostile, too hateful, and too "unhinged" to ever hold any sway with legislators. Let's see how she's handling things right now.
Here's your lunchtime blood-boiler: Video of the Michael Chertoff comment I mentioned this morning.
MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: You know, Wolf, first, I understand there's some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty. The reality is the proposal here requires people who came in illegally who want to stay to pay a penalty. Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.Chertoff's playing from the same demonization handbook Linsday Graham is reading from: "We're gonna tell the bigots to shut up."
And yet, the bigots, as you and I know, Gentle Reader, will never shut up. Actually, Malkin is in high, high dudgeon right now, spraying invective left and right in a truly dizzying array of fonts, colors, and links, updates, re-updates, cross-posts, and lots and lots of excalamation points. All her years of tireless crusading against brown-skinned immigrants are coming to nought. It must be a terrible strain on her nerves.
The poor dear is even showing signs of Bush Derangement Syndrome:
The bigger "F**k you!"So, open-borders sellout John McCain cursed out Sen. John Cornyn. Yawn.
I didn't get all worked up about it. You know why?
Because when it comes to "F**k yous!," no obscene utterance compares to the George W. Bush-backed, RNC-backed, Kennedy-conspired, fantasy-based amnesty profanity unleashed on conservatives and the country. Message:
Oh, my goodness! Miss Butter Wouldn't Melt in my Race-Baiting, Histrionic Mouth is not just swearing, but she's waving the birdie finger around, too?
Yeah. Let's move on.
TBogg? Did you have something you want to show to the class?
John Hawkins on the immigration bill:
If this bill passes the Senate, I'm going to organize multiple Googlebombs that target every Republican in the Senate who is up for reelection in 2008 and votes for this amnesty bill.
Oh, no, not the dreaded Google Bomb. Oh, cry havoc. Unleash the dogs of waaaaaaaah.
I'm going to find the worst, most damaging, hit pieces on the entire world wide web and I'm going see to it that every person who searches for the name of a pro-amnesty Republican in the Senate will see those articles. I organized GoogleBombs last year that targeted Democratic candidates and we got 70 out of 86 negative links in the top 30 search results on Google. This year, since we have more time, we will probably have an even higher success rate.
Hawkins, I've got some bad news for you. I know that Google Bombs are enough of a deadly, truly frightening agency of destruction that any sane man or woman would quail in their boots to be threatened with such awesome fire-power. There's just one problem. Google re-wrote their software to make nuisance-linking a thing of the past.
So, what's next? The even-more-dreaded Liquid Paper napalm drop?
How much will that hurt? It'll probably cost these Republican Senators a few thousand votes each — but how many of these pro-amnesty Republicans feel comfortable throwing even a few thousand votes away? I guess we'll find out….but that's not all I'm going do.Last year, I organized the Rightroots effort to raise more than a quarter of a million dollars for Republican candidates in the last 3 months of the election. This year, if this amnesty bill passes, I'm going to organize a group of blogers to raise money for any viable primary challengers to pro-amnesty Republicans in the Senate. I'm also going to offer those candidates my services, pro-bono, as a consultant, to try to get their names out in the blogosphere. On top of that, I'm going to hunt down every single piece of dirt I can find on the pro-amnesty Republicans and I'm going to release it in the blogosphere. Put another way, if you're a Republican Senator up for reelection in 2008 and you vote for amnesty — and you face a viable primary challenger — I've got two words for you,
Scorched Earth.
Well, it looks like Mr. Hawkins is busy right now. Perhaps we should politely withdraw and come back later.
Who else can there be? You know, I just got a note from Melanie Morgan a few weeks ago. She was saying that us anti-war lefties were turning the politicians and population against ourselves with our "despicable", "terrorist-loving" ways and our oh, so vile and hateful rhetoric. Well, I'm sure that she's taking a much more tactful and responsible course to keeping the increasingly war-weary GOP in line. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, right, ma?
What was it again that she was saying on her fateful trip to NewsHour?
MELANIE MORGAN: Well, I would just want to send a message to all of the congressional representatives and the senators. Much like MoveOn.org, our side, on the right, those who support the troops and support their mission and victory in Iraq, will be watching their votes. Any Republicans who waver whatsoever, we will be targeting them, as well.
Mmmmm, great. Melanie Morgan, Congressional Stalker. She should get new business cards.
This is a long-term war. And I'm sorry that Mr. Soltz doesn't seem to understand that we can't snap our fingers and be out of Iraq tomorrow. There's nobody who wants our men and women, our sons and daughters, and brothers and sisters back immediately.
But we are paying attention. We will raise the money, a dollar at a time, and we will continue to roll out our ads and take out newspaper columns. We will write our congressmen and our representatives, and we will be just as active, energized and engaged as those on the leftist, anti-American, anti-war side. And you can count on it.
Tsk, tsk. Sounds like somebody left her copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" in the back of a cab. Or maybe misplaced it in the massive gulf between what she says and the truth. No matter, there's nothing wrong with this crowd that a generation or two out of power won't fix. Look how much good it's done us. Rightards, if you guys need some advice and pointers about how to successfully organize your on-line presence and wield a little political clout, well, I don't really know what to tell you. I think in your case that rancor, chaos, and acrimony are chronic conditions. I believe your only answer may be mass suttee. But good luck and all that. We'll be right here laughing at you.




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NOUGHT!
ZeD☼
Trex!!
Hi TRex!
Evenin’ TRex!
What kind of fuckery is this?!?!
(tripping over carelessly discarded zed) boing
arms and legs doing Road Runner trying to fly impression as I fall with a large splat into the Lake
Announcer Guy From TWWoS: Oooow – that’s gonna leave a mark. She’s not going to be happy with that dive.
Evening all. Great post TRex. The Nutroots are the gift that just keeps on giving. Just glad I have you to read their drivel so I don’t have to.
Ouch, Suzanne! That’s ok, just shake it off ;-)
I sweartaghod this is coincidence:
http://www.rightwingnews.com/m….._repub.php
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this be true! (we love it when our enemies fight each other!)
(wrings water out of keyboard from Suzanne’s dive…)
Here’s a little something for those of you in the warmer climates. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8…..508408293/
Took that photo at noon today. A cold, gray wet day here in western Montana, but we need the rain and snow in the mountains means a better fishing season.
DrDick @ 9
Evening. Yeah, it just isn’t good for my blood pressure to read wingnut blogs. Anything that’s going to get me that upset had better be related by marriage.
TRex!!! I see you’re in your snarky finery tonite!!! Rock On!!!
Howdy TRex – was listening to your radio appearance, and thought I’d check out the host’s website.
Just be sure to use horsesass.org and not .com, or you’ll get into, um, animal lovers who go too far…
patrick rex @ 1
Dang… missed it by taking the time to spellcheck “nought.”
I’ll get you, you zed slinging bastards.
With that, I am off to bed, because I am trying to not get this cold I feel coming on.
Night, all.
Hi Dr Dick, I heard a report of up to a foot of snow in the higher elevations in ID and MT today. Great picture there, too!
Suzanne @ 8
To quote the fine Evil Doc: “What Kind of Fuckery is that?” Evening, Ma’am!!!
Hey, TRex,
I have fun commenting on, posting about, and generally mocking Rick Moran (brother of Terry Moran) at RightWingNuthouse.com.
Shooting fish in a barrel, and the fish hold still for you.
Sweet!
patrick rex @ 16
Feel better, Patrick.
Oh, Gentle Poster, your fillet knives are quite sharp tonight.
And I believe Pach had a great post on building a blog community last week (while my access to the Toobz was cut off!) that might help the wingnuts out. If they could be bothered to read and accept something not written by the RNC or Wingnut Welfare Inc., that is.
lolo @ 3
Ooh, lolo, I thought it was a fore-gone conclusion… Bwhahaha!!! *g*
LoudounLib @ 17
The snow line was down to about 4500 feet today (thats about 1300 feet above the valley floors). Has been raining for the last two days and supposed to continue tomorrow as well. That is almost unheard of around here, but really welcome as we were below normal rainfall and they are predicting a bad fire season this year.
OT – President Al Gore on Nightline
Right wing net is Angry White Men and the Women Who Stand By Them…..all drinking Kool Aid for Bush.
The left is its usual circular firing squad.
I would love to see a right winger who said, “Hey, I came here for the limited government and the fiscal responsibility. That damn Bush!”
Among many excellent capers tonite, this was my personal fave:
Most excellent, sir TRex.
albert fall @ 25
Calling Ron Paul.
Or Goldwater.
President Gore says debate is twisted into an assault on reason.
ya think? ;-)
TRex!
Thanks for wading through rightard blogspawn – it takes a dinos’s hide to endure the puerile.
Goodnight Patrick – hope you feel better soon.
Congrats on the dreary wet day, DrDick!
I thought cussin’ was a sin. Maybe I had it backwards.
Hi TRex
Drive-by, catching up on threads.
thought some of you would like to know-
tonight=Charlie Rose on PBS
David Halberstam, Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and Molly Ivins are remembered.
Sean Hannity’s dissing Ron Paul as he racked up a clear victory in the online vote after the GOP PrezCandi debate told me all I needed to know: the well-known bias of reality sinks their little ship of fools, and they hate it.
Should be quite a show as they try real hard to hold on to the flotsam of their previously lavish platform. I’m gonna watch to see who gets jettisoned first — betcha Melanoma Morganitic takes a dive real soon.
Hi Kirk, just wanted to tell you that I appreciated your Fristoscope analysis a few days ago…but alas, I must be at work on Wednesday!
Earlier this evening I went to hear Davis Mac-Iyalla speak at my church. The persecution GLBT people are subjected to in Nigeria is absolutely criminal.
Need to make sure I write up something about his talk soon, but in the meantime you can learn more via this link.
Mutant Poodle @ 15
Mutant Poodle, is this a bad time to mention I’ve wondered how the “mutant” part happened?
I’m beginning to feel the benefits of taking 1000mg of Snark Cartledge before bed time.
But then I prefer wholistic political therapy to the halfasstic way BushCo runs things.
Fair warning, all: Jerry Falwell’s funeral is tomorrow, and I shudder to think what will be said, both at the church and by the media.
Hey, gang! I’m here, just scrambling around doing radio stuff.
You kids seem to be doing great on your own tonight, though.
Peterr @ 37
Didn’t I hear that Fred Phelps and his merry band are planning an appearance there?
TRex @ 38
Hey TRex,
Make an old baroque fan happy, play some Bach.
Maybe Prelude to Unaccompanied Cello Suite VI in G, by anyone but Yo Yo Ma.
LoudounLib @ 28
Because the Rightards are framing the debate!!! I disagree with one point of TRex’s post; instead of Suttee, Seppuku is more apropo!!!
LoudounLib @ 39
Yep, Phelps refers to Falwell as a “corpulent false prophet,” whose message included the “lie” that God loves us. I’m not making that up.
Good evening all. How’s the lake this evening?
LoudounLib @ 39
They’ll be there! i refuse to link to their abominable site, but do a quick google for phelps falwell funeral and it pops right up.
sadly, the msm will ignore them…
I just love that they “declared war”. Like, when there were posts here about a Blue America candidate who wasn’t meeting expectations, you were unhappy, said he was shameful, suggested people should call and/or demand their fundraising money back, that kind of thing.
But in contrast, a right-wing blog has to “declare war”. The difference in approach amuses and concerns me.
CD, no doubt that you’re not making that up! I shudder every time I hear of Phelp’s antics.
TexBetsy @ 43
warm with a slight bit of west-northwest snark blowing…
Peterr @ 37
I find myself in awful agreement with Fred Phelps, who has called Falwell “a corpulent false prophet.” Oh, well, stopped clocks and all that….
Evening Betsy. How’s things in Texas? Got a post up above to help cool you off.
Evenin’ Betsy, nice to see you :-)
Thanks LoudounLib. (blushes)
I don’t think even Mitchell would have done that.
Sorry about work on Wed. I’ve got patients in clinic Wed morning, so I’ll be working myself.
(and perhaps less than devastated by no-shows)
DrDick @ 11
Dr. Dick, it’s so beautiful! Thanks for sharing. : )
Loo Hoo. @ 30
It’s a NIS?
spinn @ 45
actually it perfectly illustrates the vas deferens between right and left…
Peterr @ 37
I was disappointed not to have been asked to deliver a eulogy. But I wrote one anyway.
(steps up to podium)
“My mother always said, ‘If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.’”
(returns to seat)
Hi everyone; TRex, allow me to also thank you for sparing me the distress of wading through all that Rightardation. I used to do so, simply to find out what they were going to say, and I’m now a much happier guy. (sniff); A 60-ft, heavily armed therapod is better equipped to stand up to that kind of assault. Thank you.
TexBetsy @ 53
That’s when a Republican does it, so it doesn’t count.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 47
As long as the snark is not coming from a 13 yr old who won’t go to sleep, I am happy.
TexBetsy @ 43
Cool and refreshing.
Brilliant, EDP! ;-)
LoudounLib @ 60
“It’s a good idea, Lord!”
“Of course it’s a good idea!!!”
EvilDrPuma @ 59
And so it is. Ahhhhh. Thanks.
TeddySanFran @ 48
((wiping up keyboard))
707!!
spinn @ 45
For the record, it wasn’t that Chris Carney “wasn’t meeting expectations” or that we “were unhappy.” Chris Carney made specific promises, both here and to ProjectVoteSmart, regarding his position on federal Hate Crime legislation. He took the endorsement of BlueAmerica and moneys raised based on that endorsement, won election, and cast his vote exactly opposite as he had promised.
Then he used right-wing frames to defend his lying vote. And, also for the record, he has yet to respond, at least to my emails and snailmail requesting my money back.
Suzanne, hope you’re okay now. Sounds like you have a lot more energy than last night. Any aching muscles?
TexBetsy @ 58
nope, just the usual suspects. BTW, just to give a bit of lightness to the evening air, check out this Tshirt from boing boing:
http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt#top
it is essential a tshirt covered front and back with beautifully laid out graphics and text spoiling all the recent major movies that had twist endings…
TeddySanFran @ 48
Ironic, until you realize that Phelps isn’t all that corpulent.
DrDick, that’s a beautiful picture; by comparison, I should send you a picture of the speaker cabinet’s cover that split from the heat in my car today. …and it’s only May.
EvilDrPuma @ 61
I think Phelps’ followers are more along the lines of “how shall we f*** off, o Lord?”
EvilDrPuma @ 67
ghouls rarely are…
Peterr @ 37
Would a prayer for St Peter’s appearance be impious?
(if I ask to see him manifest atop the coffin…
with his lover Pan)
LoudounLib @ 69
707! I had totally forgotten that line….
Alfred Kelgarries @ 44
Don’t you find it funny that neither the Decider nor any of the Repub presidential candidates will be there?
heh, they don’t even have good mods making you sign-up if you want to post something… lame
Falwell
I was surprised by some of the comments made by some people at Falwell’s passing- including Larry Flynt- who seemed to have formed a strange kinda bond with Jerry.
TexBetsy @ 43
All a-roil as usual, Evening, Ma’am!!! No tornado watches up in your neck, I hope???
LooHoo, more energy but even my aches and pains have aches and pains.
OT:
SteveAudio
Re Beverly Hillbillies theme – Not Homer and Jethro. Flatt and Scruggs.
Dr Dick
Didn’t see you below. If you haven’t read PW’s
post, you should go read it. Then, since you are a constituent of his, perhaps you could drop a line to Tester explaining how he should phrase his reasons for voting a particular way without using Repug talking points. Baucus is
a little long in the tooth and settled in his ways to bother.
Haven’t seen much talk around here about Greg Palast’s magnificant post at BRADBLOG.
A must read as we go to the Goodling session this week
Cass, who is not on the computer this evening because she left the dinner dishes all over the kitchen for two hours, did ask me to tell you she has several jerry falwell cartoons on her site.
How is it that the unhinged wingnuttia rocks the world of Howie Kurtz and Brian Williams yet they are so ignored?
They are all a scary bunch of screaming Harpies yet their howls have no purchase in the Wingnut Universe.
Pretty sweet, actually. All that screeching for naught. Cry me a river you bastards.
In Greater Left Blogistan the politicos actually do pay attention. Perhaps that is the greatest revenge of all against the Powerline-Redstate-LGF-hot Air blowhards.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAH
spinn @ 45
Good observation.
CTuttle @ 76
Just thunderstorms. :)
kirk murphy @ 51
Oh btw, hoping my deductible covers that Fristoscope ;-)
yellowdogD @ 79
Already sent the gentlemen a piece of my mind on this particularly boneheaded move. Doesn’t surprise me coming from Bauchus who really needs to retire, but Tester truly disappointed me.
Suzanne @ 77
Hot bath with epsom salts should help.
TexBetsy @ 81
ah. understood. tell her hello from all of us. did you see the posts about the arrival of wee-rog?
That’s some fine invective coming from Michelle “Anchor Baby” Malkin…..
Alfred Kelgarries @ 88
Yes I did and I will convey the hellos.
Dr. Dick, thanks for the Montana eye candy. Delicious.
WaPoO chatz tomorrow; questions accepted anytime!
Lois Romano at 11am eastern
Sally Quinn and Ben Bradlee at Noon eastern, “On Faith: Are you satisfied with where you are now in your life?”
Karen DeYoung at 1pm eastern
Eugene Robinson at 1pm eastern
.
Looking forward to finding out what possible dissatisfaction plagues the obscenely wealthy Bradlee family….
Arf
;>)
plaindave @ 78
Homer and Jethro cover.
I missed the weeRog details.
darkblack @ 93
Ouch!
Well, work has ended for better or worse. Time to get my scaly green tail back to my cave.
See you kids in a bit when I can actually talk and hang out.
TexBetsy @ 84
I hope they don’t intensify!!! Aah, No, Cassie tonite!!! :( Oh well, the rules are the rules….
first news story:
IT’S CALLED MARTIAL LAW!!!
{ scampering outta here to clean up the kitchen, not realizing commenting privileges were at stake…. }
NYT editorial:
NYT LINK
Suzanne @ 95
Me too. And that just won’t do.
EvilDrPuma @ 102
Ditto.
Suzanne @ 95
from two threads back:
Loo Hoo. @ 101
From several threads back, IIRC — weeRog arrived at something like 2:00 AM PDT, weighing in at 8 lbs 11 oz
Suzanne @ 95
Ooh, 8lb 11oz, 2:45 AM, Garrett Balrog!!! Yeah!!!
TexBetsy @ 99
Good grief, Cassie, she IS strict.
TRex @ 97
drive carefully. and watch out for meteors and comets they seem to have it in for therapods,,,
EvilDrPuma @ 107
ROFLMAO!!!
Thanks for the update :)
Alfred, you forgot about the supervolcanoes (hope your keyboard dried out).
MySpace hands over names of registered sex offenders
- 10:01 PM
Since May 2, about 7,000 profiles have been removed from the site, according to the company.
Welcome to the world, Garrett. We’ll do our level best to try to clean up some of our mess for you.
Does anyone have details on the wee-balrog?
Suzanne @ 110
i TRY NOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. it is the one tinfoil hat scenario that, unfortunately, could really happen.
and ThE KEyBoARd Is JUSt FIne. :)
Debbie(aussie) @ 113
look up thread
TeddySanFran @ 64
Yeah, knew I was working with just my vague memory of what was involved, but I didn’t bother fact checking that because it wasn’t my point.
In fact, you illustrate it better, because some of you felt actively betrayed, and I didn’t see anyone threatening to put an IED under his desk.
hi debbie aussie, see my 9:09 PM
Debbie(aussie) @ 113
Check out 104 above.
TeddySanFran @ 100
707!!! Dang, that reminds me, Dinner for the Ohana!!! I’ll be Back!!!
TexBetsy @ 111
You know, that is disturbing on so many different levels. Not sure just how to respond. The civil libertarian in me wants to react in one way and the parent (and grandparent) in another.
Debbie(aussie) @ 113
Check out comment 104, it’s a boyrog!
Federal judge halts enforcement of Farmers Branch ordinance
The voter-approved measure that prohibits renting to illegal immigrants was to take effect Tuesday.
TexBetsy @ 111
How many Republican Congressmen on the list?
EvilDrPuma @ 123
Past, present or future?
Peter VE @ 89
Speakin’ of invective, that rightwing blowhard blasphemer and Viagara vulgarian, Rush Limpballs, is catching flak–or is he?–about his Obama the Magic Negro routine. When he isn’t talking about Mrs. Bill Clinton.
And whazzup with Tweety and his Bill-n-Hill obsession? Ya gotta wonder if he goes home at night and heads straight to the shower in shame. Word, Tweety, it’s obsessing about things like the Clenis that gave us Gee-Dubya.
Glad to be back home again after a quick trip to the City by the Bay.
EvilDrPuma @ 123
Heh!
Suzanne @ 95
Me too. Any details?
TexBetsy @ 124
You do Tarot on top of everything else?
TeddySanFran @ 100
oh shite am I in trouble with Texas Betsy.
lolo, scroll up in the area of 104 and 99 for weeRog
baby pic of the new balrog!
kirk murphy @ 129
Long as it ain’t MY kitchen, no prob.
Sorry posted before I had read all the comments.
Wonderful news. Garrett is a great name.
kirk murphy @ 35
Cat with a cyst had a part of his tail shaved. He looked like a, well, you can guess.
TexBetsy @ 131
What a cutey! Looks just like his dad.
DrDick @ 120
Yet another Rupert Murdoch investment.
TexBetsy @ 131
707!!
TexasBetsy: cleaning up the Left Wing’s kitchens, one blogthread at a time.
i have to go now, so i’d like to toss a small philosphical hand grenade into the lake and perhaps it will provide some insightful comments.
WHY THE DIFFERENT RESPONSES TO THE “NETROOTS” and “RIGHTROOTS”…
democrats are, as a whole, responsive and even pleased with the netroots particularly once they realized they were a) a good source of funds b) a good source of votes and c) a good source of grassroots volunteers. this is because the democratic party, with the exception of the DLC, is a more “bottom up” party than the Rethuglicans.
rethugs, by contrast are a “top down” party. the “top” (the politicos) give the orders and the “voters” obey them, led on by their cheerleaders on Hate Radio and the MSM. voter interaction with politicos is limited to attending rallies and cheering when needed for the cameras, and posing for carefully sanitized photo ops. The RightRoots don’t fit into any of these categories. The RR’s have the GALL to think that despite being lowly voter scum, they have the RIGHT to set priorities and demand results, in a word, to JUDGE the politicos. This is HERESY and simply will not be tolerated. any RW blogger who isn’t simply an extension of HR/MSM media propaganda will be ostracised and either ignored to death or vilified out of the party in practical terms.
democratic netroots, by contrast, are ASSUMED to be activists and thus their demands and taken as appropriate within the limits of the current representative democracy system. if the netroots demand change from the democrats they may or may not get it, but they won’t be ostracized/demonized/trivialized for it.
i invite comments as i ectoplasmically fade away until tomorrow…
hey texasbetsy-
margot left info for you, for your son, on saturday night’s late nite crime and punishment thread at comment 297 after you went beddie bye…….been waiting for you to tell you if you missed it.
back to catching up on threads………man i missed a lot today! bye
spinn — I didn’t mean to pounce, your point stands without my (bombastic) addendum. Carney is a fresh wound hereabouts, but you are correct — I cannot imagine anyone at the ‘lake declaring “war.” Comments that include physical threat are simply prohibited.
Perhaps in our gentleness we are viewed as easily overlooked, but in this case our ferocity will know no (legal, non-threatening) bounds.
Oooh, lots to chew on there, AK….good night!
dmac @ 140
off i go into the past
TexBetsy @ 131
you are EVIL! you had me totally fooled (for those who have not clicked, its not a human baby…)
TexasBetsy @ 103. I hope not :). Poor mrs Balrog!
TexBetsy @ 132
You have to fight the battles you can win.
Good nite Al K!
OK – I’m back…trying to clear my backlog of Lost from the Tivo.
Of course, once I’m done, I’ll have to go outside or read or something…
Alfred Kelgarries @ 144
It’s not? I just assumed he hadn’t been cleaned up yet.
Yes, the CIA thing. I am still hoping this dream will pass. Thanks dmac.
TexBetsy #131 you got me too! There I am, wondering,”How did she get a pic so fast?”, and then…click..ROFL
Alfred Kelgarries @ 144
I googled “balrog”. Trust me, that is as close as i could get to a baby pic.
I’m off to read todays(yesterdays) other FDl posts.
EvilDrPuma @ 149
And, btw, not too far off from the parental perspective at 4AM after weeks of sleep-interrupted nights…
Totally OT — it seems that Bo Diddley is doing better after his stroke.
Who do you love?
Can someone please explain to me how there’s been a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon since 1948 and NO Arab nation (let alone the UN) has come forward to address and/or eradicate this condition ?
Someone’s pimpin’ the Palestinians.
I purposely did not include the Israeli dimension in order to receive a specific answer, so don’t get all uppity on me
plaindave @ 78
Goddammit, I knew that! Thanks.
TexBetsy @ 87
And the realization that you can relax now…until time to pack.
Mutant Poodle @ 154
Hmmmm. I remember those. Had a lot to do with why I have far fewer children than ex-wives.
Tim @ 156
OK Kiddo would have an answer for that. OKK — are you about tonight?
evening fellow pups – been rowing lazily on the lake – lurking about :)….now catching up on missed postings – back in a few…..
Tim @ 156
Because they’d rather blame Israel for the Palestinian homeland crisis than admit they don’t want to create one in their LARGER territories either. Next question is …. where is Europe and why aren’t they boycotting Lebanese products?
Tim @ 156
There are hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and elsewhere, who have been there since 1948. For more info on the UN response, go here: http://www.un.org/unrwa/.
LL, I think OKK signed off earlier due thunderstorms in his area.
Suzanne, did you sell the cottage????
TexBetsy @ 152
Looks like Giles after he gets turned into a Fyarl demon…
Missed that Suzanne, thanks!
TB, it was just an open house. Still for sale. Fingers and toes still crossed for the right buyer to come along soon.
Tim @ 156
I know so little about that part of the world, but I was amazed tonite when Anderson Cooper talked about the bombing today, and described the camp as being that old and home of almost 40,000 souls. That’s not a “camp,” that’s a small city, which Cooper said too.
I sat back for a minute, and immediately thought, “That must be what Jimmy Carter means by apartheid.” I must read his book.
INSPIRED BIT OF MISCHIEF OF THE WEEK:
When I got to my car, a red pickup truck with North Carolina plates was parked next to it. One bumper sticker read, “I’m from North Carolina, but I DO NOT SUPPORT John Edwards!”. There was the ubiquitous yellow-ribbon magnet, and on the right side of the bumper, a faded sticker that had a male symbol plus a female symbol then an equal sign and a white square where whatever anti-gay message was there has faded over time.
Being a quick-thinking Theropod (and never leaving home without a Sharpie!), I did a bit of quick editing, and now their sticker says:
Male Symbol plus Female symbol equals DULL AS HELL.
*bows deeply*
I wonder how long before the redneck that owns the truck notices.
TeddySanFran @ 169
Ding!
Has Vegas posted odds on Gone-zo going?
Great work there, TRex!
TRex @ 170
Some advantages to being 60 ft tall!
Suzanne @ 172
I think you need to go to London for oddds on that stuff…
Being a quick-thinking Theropod (and never leaving home without a Sharpie!), I did a bit of quick editing, and now their sticker says:
Male Symbol plus Female symbol equals DULL AS HELL.
*bows deeply*
I wonder how long before the redneck that owns the truck notices.
Waterproof sharpie?
lolo @ 127
#104
Mutant Poodle @ 175
True. English bookies will bet (legally) on anything.
TRex, I disagree with the sentiment but totally salute the act!
LoudounLib @ 160
OMG, I was thinking the same thing! Please be here OKK.
TRex — people never look at their own bumpers. You would not believe how many Hummers I see in SF with stickers, clearly applied by guerillas like you, that say, “I’m Destroying The Planet.” Your edit will last a while.
This I know. Why the situation in Lebanon specifically ? There are between 200 to 400,000 in Lebanon who have not been absorbed by any Arab nation. Why ?
And TexBets, I hate to tell you, but the existence of Israel is a factor
RonD @ 179
Oh, I don’t really believe that, either. I just like telling small-minded heterosexuals that they’re passe.
( and the fewer jokes about Hummers in SF, the better…. )
TeddySanFran @ 181
I see my bumper every time i put something in the trunk or pull something out.
Fear God, and Dread Nought . . .
The poetic prose, that launched the battleship arms race, and the First Modern Battleship:
Dreadnought
My favorite bumper sticker was stolen off my car one nite – Bad Cop No Donut.
As much as I hate to go (have I said lately how much I luuuuurve Late Nite FDL?) I must sign off…working overtime on my day off for The Man in order to pay for petrol…good night all!
g’nite, LL. stay safe
Suzanne @ 187
I’m guessing you *didn’t* call 911 to report it.
TRex @ 183
They’ll listen coming from this face.
always, Suzanne — thanks!
Please don’t go “anti-Semite” on me, that would be laughable. I’m well-read and asking a question I hope could be answered on my favorite blog.
TRex,some years ago a dear friend of mine saw fit to play a brutal practical joke on me in public-so I responded by sticking an “I’m the NRA” sticker on her car-it was there for months. She couldn’t figure out why people were honking their horns at her-I don’t think she has forgiven me yet.
from AAR:
Remember the American Center for Voting Rights – a conservative front group that was conveniently invited to give expert testimony in Congress about voter fraud just days after they were founded? Well, they’ve now conveniently disappeared.
Tim @ 182
It is not just in Lebanon. The same situation pertains in most of the Arab countries with large Palestinian refugee populations. I am not sure why they have not assimilated, though the international politics of Israel are connected with this in various ways. It is also important to note that the Palestinian refugees are a politically destablizing influence in all of these countries, not just Lebanon (in part owing to their exclusion from both their homeland and from the host countries).
“Oh, cry havoc. Unleash the dogs of waaaaaaaah.”
Good stuff.
What they don’t get is that grass root movements cannot be manufactured. The truth is, the average American, though often unnatentive to politics, is not a slathering hate-filled anger machine.
According to studies from Pew to Ball State, more people are turning to the Internet for news/information than are to television, newspapers, radio and magazines combined.
Fear us.
Peterr, nope, did not know if it happened while parked at the apartment complex or while parked at the PD.
Night LL
ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!
(Madness, madness, madness)
[TRex! TRex! TRex!]
TexBetsy @ 195
Ah, right wing expertise is so ephemeral.
Night Betsy :-)
Night LL. Tell Simon Legree you want a raise.
Suzanne @ 198
Was it on a cop car or your personal wheels?
my personal wheels – no way i could put that one on my g-ride.
DrDick @ 196
Hard to assimilate from a refugee camp.
Dr Dick, would that it were so easy — I am topped out now at my grade and step :-(
‘Nite,LL.
Suzanne @ 205
Well, it would have gotten my attention!
teddysanfran at 169
I sat back for a minute, and immediately thought, “That must be what Jimmy Carter means by apartheid.” I must read his book.
i heard in the car on the radio earlier that the area all of these people live in is 1 square kilometer. 40,000 people.
‘Nite Ron! good night everyone.
Dr. Dick,
Thank you. I wonder sometimes: is there Palestinian music, clothing, literature, food, custom ?
Or perhaps is it a tribe who didn’t get a country drawn up by colonials out of guilt or expedience ?
TeddySanFran @ 184
How’s about in Sacramento?
Tim @ 193
Well, we didn’t — and I think you got some pretty considered and thoughtful answers.
TexBetsy @ 206
True and we have the makings of the same kind of situation shaping up in Thailand where they have accepted refugees from all over SE Asia (mostly Viet Nam, Laos, and Burma). Some have been there since 1975.
Well, it would have gotten my attention!
Well, it would have gotten the Chief’s attention too. That would not have been a good thing :) I tried to fly under that radar.
Tim @ 212
MIGHT be propoganda, but I was always taught that they did not even exist as a people before 1945. They were Arabs, no different culturally from the Jordanians, Lebanese, or anyone else in that area.
Teddy SF,
Tim @ 156
Hi Tim.
Is this the occasion of your delurking?
If so, the custom of the Lake requires me to welcome you.
sorry hit punch, No I’m digging the conversation. That’s all.
EvilDrPuma @ 149
I’m Back!!! You and TB, are simply atrocious!!! I had to click to figure out how TB scooped!!! Heavens to Betsy!!! Tsk, Tsk!!!
(waving at kirk)
Texas House OKs high school steroids testing
Tim @ 212
They had a country. It is now called Israel. The European Jews who settled in Palestine drove out most of the Arabs, whose ancestors had lived there since the Diaspora. European guilt and anti-Semitism combined to support the creation of the state of Israel (though not until after a guerrilla war that makes the Intafada look tame).
Loo Hoo. @ 213
Here in LA, our publicity starved mayor took the bus to a press conference on global warming, then hopped into – wait for it – his GMC Yukon and sped away…
I’ve been here about three years. Ask Pach, Punaise, Jane, or Redd.
The drawbridge has already been lowered for me. Relax
MetroRail trains were on collision course —The two trains were going in opposite directions on the same track because of a switching error, and employees involved have been disciplined, Metro officials said (Dallas)
Didn’t “bad cop – no donut” make itself known in EssEff when a sheriff was running for higher office and had all the alt-newsweeklies confiscated from their boxes before people could grab their issue in the morning? I must ask fiance when he returns home from work — he’ll remember this story better than I.
Mutant, ah, the mayor is just emulating Ah-nold – remember he did something similar a while back. Everything is just a photo op to these guys.
TexBetsy @ 223
I think that random intelligence testing should be instituted in the Texas state legislature.
SteveAudio @ 27
Ron Paul is only a Republican because he can’t think outside the box. He’s really a Democrat.
Goldwater wouldn’t be a Republican today; he’d be a Democrat if he cared about winning, or a Libertarian if he insisted on being pure in his commitment to his beliefs.
Does anyone know of a good, objective, history of the MidEast?Something like “A Brief History of the MidEast since 1918″, or something like that? Something without an axe to grind?
TSF, it could be. It was a gift from a West Bay CHP friend who spent time in the city.
Suzanne @ 222
Likewise.
One SF Supervisor sez he has snapshots of our mayor in a Lincoln Navigator, parked and idling for an hour while Gavin sits inside on the phone with (Gavin claims) Barack Obama — on Bike to Work Day!
burnspbesq @ 231
Like hell he is. The man only left the Libertarians because he wanted to win elections.
Spruiell: “When someone says something, can you just report it, or do you have to wait until it’s on another blog?”
McCain-wingnuttien blogger conference call.
Suzanne @ 229
Yeah, but Ah-nold has converted at least some of his hummers to hydrogen. And they’re his, not the state’s.
I’m no fan of the guvernator, but, of all the cars – a Yukon?
TexBetsy @ 217
Actually they are distinct. Arab identity is really an artificial construct based primarily on language and was spread by the Islamic Jihad of the 7th century. The modern Arabs are descended from hundreds of different ethnic groups and many retain customs and practices which trace back to the pre-Arab past. The ancestors of the Palestinians (who were recognized by everyone as a distinct group) derive from a variety of groups, including Cannanites, Moabites, Philistines, Romans (including Gauls, North Africans, Germans, and others), and probably Jews. While there are broad similarities among Arab groups there are also many differences.
EvilDrPuma @ 230
How about all the way up to the WH? Drug tests too?
TexBetsy @ 240
I’m down with that. Daily breathalyzer for the Shrub, anyone?
TexBetsy @ 240
How about this: Positive for drugs or negative for intelligence and you’re outta there!
RonD @ 232
No.
Suzanne @ 187
Hi Suzanne.
Rats! If I’d known, I’d have picked you up one at SF’s Anarchist Book Fair. EarthFirst! sold ‘em for years. (not any more, sadly) AK Press may have ‘em….
(website down tonight, so I can’t search….)
Dr Dick at 239.
So if the Palestinians are distinct, where specifically can I learn about Palestinian culture as opposed to the artificial construct of Arab identity ?
“Ladies and gentleman, take my advice. Pull down your pants and slide on the ice.”
–Sidney Freedman
See you later.
Tim @ 226
With intros like this, who needs drawbridges lowered?
g’nite EDP.
Oh, the irony is too rich regarding Miss Michelle Malkin, check out the Dictionary Definition Of “Malkin”
Maybe Michelle should have given her name change a bit more thought, no?
RBG; yep, that’s me !
Tim @ 245
google :)
RBG @ 247
Geez – I don’t even know when MY first comment was. That’s TIA-type scary…
EvilDrPuma @ 246
Sleep well, Evil Dr. P.
DrDick @ 120
Not an easy call, is it?
I opted for a brute-force solution. I tossed Man-Cub off MySpace until his 18th birthday. I also told him that I was installing key-stroke recording software on his computer and checking it periodically to see whether he was violating the rules (someday I will get around to actually doing that).
As a dancer, he’ll have ample opportunity to be cruised by both sexes and be confused about his feelings in the real world. No sense in making it worse by putting chum in shark-infested cyber-waters.
Tim @ 245
I am not a Middle East expert, though I do know a little about the Palestinians owing to my interest in race and ethnicity. Here is one source you could look at:
Palestine and the Palestinians: a social and political history
I think Juan Cole has also written about them (and he is an expert on the Middle East). You might also check out Edward Said.
Night EDP, don’t chafe your ass on the way out.
My son is on myspace but may not add any friends who he does not know directly (school, etc.) I don’t monitor every keystroke but I do look at his myspace account, picture (a caricature) etc.
Mutant Poodle @ 252
Still making the vegetarian butternut squash soup?
Dr. Dick,
Thanks. I read Juan Cole every morning and I’m familiar with Edward Said. I’m also familiar with Google.
I must be honest also in saying that my questions were also meant to provoke and my wife just started watching a movie I wasn’t into.
RBG @ 257
Not often enough.
I am so not messing with you guys.
burnspbesq @ 254
Makes me glad mine was grown before the computer revolution. I know he keeps close check on his, but they are still in elementary school. Helps that he is a systems administrator and knows how to do all that stuff.
Has anyone kicked around the new American military allegations that Iran is planning an offensive in Iraq this summer?
Sounds like a neo-con causus belli to bomb Iran to me.
-GSD
Linky-doo.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 237
Ohmigod, that is so insanely brilliant.
Gavin, Gavin, why hast thou forsaken me?
‘Night,EDP!
Tim @ 259
I really know much about that part of the world.
The news stories from Lebanon today just deepened my belief that AQ is just a code word meaning “fluff the red base.”
Mutant Poodle @ 260
It’s mighty tasty.
TRex @ 170
Well done, sir.
And so shall I. Good nite, everybody. Go easy.
Night RonD. Sleep well.
OK – signing off to catch some Z’s. RBG – you can tell the guys in the panel van outside to go home.
DrDick @ 239
Right on DD!!! I was going to point out many of the facts you presented!!! Besides the Palestinian travesty, the Kurdish history is equally disquieting, the Largest ethnic group without a Nation-state. Spread out within: Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, they have been systematically repressed within all four countries!!! The spookiest at this juncture, is our NATO Ally, Turkey!!! They have promised to invade Iraq, if the Kurds declare a independent Kurdistan in Northern Iraq!!!
Night MP.
DrDick @ 261
you guys could use realvnc. It allows you to remote control/view another comp on your network.
*making mental note to be nice to RGB*
I love it when RBG hunts down somebody’s entrance like that. And hello, Tim.
fair enough tw3k but Lebanon just “blew up” again today somewhat out of the blue and in the northern city of Tripoli. There has to be a reason, AQ or not.
The Neo-con summer plan for a massive bombardment of Iran is falling into place.
“Iran is secretly forging ties with al-Qaida elements and Sunni Arab militias in Iraq in preparation for a summer showdown with coalition forces intended to tip a wavering US Congress into voting for full military withdrawal, US officials say.”
“Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq and it’s a very dangerous course for them to be following. They are already committing daily acts of war against US and British forces,” a senior US official in Baghdad warned. “They [Iran] are behind a lot of high-profile attacks meant to undermine US will and British will, such as the rocket attacks on Basra palace and the Green Zone [in Baghdad]. The attacks are directed by the Revolutionary Guard who are connected right to the top [of the Iranian government].”
The official said US commanders were bracing for a nationwide, Iranian-orchestrated summer offensive, linking al-Qaida and Sunni insurgents to Tehran’s Shia militia allies, that Iran hoped would trigger a political mutiny in Washington and a US retreat.
“Any US decision to retaliate against Iran on its own territory could be taken only at the highest political level in Washington, the official said. But he indicated that American patience was wearing thin.”
-GSD
Loo Hoo. @ 234
Hi Suzanne! Hi LooHoo!
[waving]
Sorry for the delay – I was munching….
kirk, i’ve heard about those munches (waggin finger)
GSD, got a link for that?
Mutant Poodle @ 260
I’m telling Ya!!! The Mods know…
Link at 261. Linky doo at the bottom.
-GSD
Tim @ 276
Might have something to do with the fallout/repercussions of the recent Israeli invasion of Lebanon or with the current conflict within the Palestinian political leadership. Al Qaeda is less a formal organization than a loose network of individuals and small groups (not too mention unaffiliated groups who want the publicity), much like the Christian Identity Movement in this country.
GSD @ 262
Sourced by yet another anonymous US official. Not the kind of thing I expect we’ll be hearing directly from Petraeus.
For all the duck and weave around not setting a timetable, Repugs have painted themselves into a corner with a de facto deadline in September. I think they know it, and not surprisingly will try to parlay the failure into an attack on Iran. Claiming that Iranian Shia are conspiring with Iraqi Sunni sounds pretty farfetched to anyone who can find the Persian Gulf on a map.
Tim @ 276
true. I misstated above. I know _very_ little about that part of the world.
Yeah, it’s kind of “homeland security cool” isn’t it ?
Hi back Teddy in SAN FRANCISCO !
Okay, RBG.
What was my first comment?
It would be under the name Thesaurus Rex. Jane didn’t shorten it to TRex until I became a contributor.
BBC:
The clashes erupted when security forces tried to arrest suspects in a bank robbery. Militants from Fatah al-Islam then attacked army posts at the entrances to the camp.
The Lebanese army regained control of the camp’s perimeter but clashes have continued.
Lebanon is home to more than 350,000 Palestinian refugees, many of whom fled or left their homes when Israel was created in 1948.
Fatah al-Islam is a radical Palestinian splinter group alleged to have links with al-Qaeda. Lebanese officials also believe it has ties to Syrian intelligence. Other Palestinian groups have distanced themselves from Fatah al-Islam.
There are rival theories about what lies behind the latest violence, says the BBC’s Roger Hardy.
Government ministers suspect Syria is behind the violence, with the aim of destabilising the country. Others see a quite separate radical Islamist agenda, our correspondent says.
Well, folks, I’m also off to bed and kitties. Take care of each other.
g’nite dr dick
Tomorrow (today?) may be Falwell’s funeral, but more importantly it’s primary day in Kentucky.
If you have friends, relatives, or passing acquaintances here in the Bluegrass, give ‘em a holler and tell ‘em to get out and vote.
Now, back to your regular
programmingsnark.TRex @ 287
Ooh, some prehistoric Lake history!!!
Tim @ 286
Have you been……Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair.
Muzzy, don’t the notion of non-facts, farflung ideas and downright bullshit theories ever deter you from believing that Bush and Cheney do what they will to be done.
The trap is being set.
Come summer as the grand game unfolds the worse it gets the more they push for a wider war.
Facts be damned. They have the bonus of Lebanon coming unglued that they can use against Syria.
Buckle down, it’s going to get a lot worse.
-GSD
DrDick @ 289
Nite, DD!!!
RBG
too hilarious!
how about the link to the very first firedoglake post? I’ve been wanting to read old ones, and would like to start at the beginning……
TRex @ 287
The archives aren’t prehistoric, but how about this one?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..inionsbox1
Link to interesting op/ed on what plan b will look like on Iraq. Ignatius seems to think that we’ve given up on the surge and that son of surge will be focused (again) on training the iraqi army and fighting al queda. Thinks that dems and Clusterfuck must be bipartisan in their approach.
Hope for saving this mission in Iraq appears to spring eternal.
Yes, my oldest is getting his MFA up there. It’s still groovy IMHO.
rwcole @ 298
heh, yeah, i notice dubya got out his old iraq book today.
Those tryin to save the mission are inventin new jobs for the troops.
What if they just picked up paper and mowed lawns- how’d that be?
Whatsa matta- can’t say the words “We followed an idiot and we lost a war”?
TexBetsy @ 99
Now, I wonder how long it’s going to take such fine patriots in those far-flung locales like Idaho and the Michigan peninsula to put two and two together on that.
;>)
So, looks like the talking points are hitting this story big-time. Here’s Drudge’s above the picture headline:
PAPER: IRAN’S SECRET PLAN FOR SUMMER OFFENSIVE TO FORCE USA OUT OF IRAQ…
So, are you gonn a support the surge or are you gonna support Iran and Al Qaeda. That is the frame.
-GSD
RBG @ 297
Cool, RBG, whew, only 24 comments!!! That thread length wouldn’t last five minutes now!!!
It appears that Clusterfuck is preparing for failure of the surge- back up plan is “reduce troops and change their mission to primarilly training”
Anything but take their asses out.
Will be interesting to see if he can sell it.
I am back after the internet disappeared for a bit. Couldn’t just go to sleep and leave the lake!
rwcole @ 305
However, if “events on the ground” dicate a massive bombing run on Iran, the mission may change again.
These new Iran stories are just like the old pre-war Iraq stories.
-GSD
GSD – it’s astonishing really. The neocon lifeline is in the balance with the 4 year window of opportunity to date likely to close by fall. Not that they won’t still be trying, but this is it.
The only explanation I have for why McCain and Rudy have committed themselves to the militant authoritarian persona despite the apparent self destructive political implications is that they have been receiving *reassurances*.
GSD @ 303
Wag the Dog, on steroids!!! Never Again!!!
RBG @ 297
Ooh, that was a while ago, wasn’t it?
I should go poke around the blogspot site and see what I can come up with.
TRex @ 286
It would have to be on the old site, no?
I lost my Zedginity … sniff sniff … New Thread – Late Late Night
GSD
Yeah they are- although I’ve heard a lot of military people say that any kind of military action against Iran is doomed to failure- even simple bombing of suspected nuclear sites.
There’s the same ol tone of voice- but I suspect that this time there’s nothin behind the bluster- we’ll see.
Petrocelli @ 312
congrats!!!
OK, my inner cool is feeling dorky and I see some heavy hitters showing up to replace my yakkin’.
Thanks for this place, the people, and a chance to discuss.
Nighters all
Tim @ 315
sleep well tim
Alfred Kelgarries @ 11
And the wingnuts don’t realize that Bush’s ratings had already begun to plunge (Rasmussen works on 3 day rolling polls) before the Senate voted to begin debating the immigration bill. By May 17th Bush’s approval level was only 35%…so it’s dropped an additional 1% and the 34% level was reached BEFORE MONDAY…that was reached last week!
http://www.rasmussenreports.co…..b_approval
The reason Bush’s approval rating has plunged is more likely the fact that the surge is failing abysmally, Bush’s continued defense of “Death Bed” Gonzalez, and spiralling gas prices. Any impact on the Rasmussen poll from the revelation of Bush’s immigration plan has yet to hit.
Tim @ 259
Tim @ 226
Certainly long enough to know how to provoke.
Are congratulations are in order for your manipulation?
Projective identification.
In projective idenfication, a person experiencing an uncomfortable emotion they are incapable of directly expressing will behave in such a manner as to elicit their inner emotional state in those around them.
If – for example – the “projector” is – for whatever reason – incapable of directing alienation or irritation, they will unconsciously behave in a fashion causing others around them to feel alienated or irritated.
In the process, the projector is often experienced as a sufficiently strong source of subjective distress in the projectees that the increase emotional distance, hence amplifiying the projector’s distress and leading to positive feedback loops.
Rasmussen wants to blame the immigration bill for Clusterfuck’s startling decline.
In the case of Rasmussen- it is more likely that the decline means nothing at all. His polls go up and down with no particular connection to reality..
Tim @ 315
Sleep well.
Hope your wife enjoys the movie she just started watching.
rwcole @ 319
Just goes to show how out of touch the 30% dead enders really are. Send those fuckers to Iraq for three years, I guarantee they will be coming home singing a different song. It’s pathetic to support the war because you have no skin in the game. Now they come unglued over immigration, I have a new understanding about how much they really hate teh brown people.
TeddySanFran @ 181
That’s an interesting observation…………my only bumper sticker states ~~”Don’t Postpone Joy”~~ and I read it almost every day. At age eight years, the ‘ol auto is on its second copy. *g*
TexBetsy @ 217
Turns out that the Palestinians (both Muslim and Christian) actually are genetically similar to the Maronites, Druze, and Sephardim…and not very far from the Ashkenazi. They are more distant genetically to the “Arabs” (if one means the tribal groups of the Saudi Arabian peninsula. Look up the work of geneticist Mark Hammer.
What most likely happened is that there was a broad “Philistine” (Phoenecian) population in the Levant that became Jewish, Samaritan, etc. The Jewish population was partrially displaced periodically (though never absolutely, contrary to Jewish lore). Many of those Jews that remained in the area eventually converted, first to Christianity, and some of these to Islam. Thus Levantine Sephardim, Christians and Muslims were all “Palestinians”.
DrDick @ 224
The Palestinians are not “Arabs”. Different ethnicity.
Maybe the immagration issue/bill will be the thing that will finally implode the Republican Party. It certainly won’t be Iraq. Senator Kennedy is a very sly dog. Maybe he knew this and decided to push the immagration issue with the White House and his friends across the isle knowing it would push their party into chaos and help cinch the elections for the dems in 2008 while offering Bush some shred of a legacy for doing something for the country. Reading those right wing blogs made me realize how this issue has the potential to do just this type of thing. Nothing better than having the rightwing infantry mutiny against their own elected leaders they have been supporting throughout the war and now they get to see what weasely turncoats they turn out to be for them.
cinnamonape @ 324
So far as I know, that it incorrect. Per Sir Ronald Storrs, the first governor of Jerusalem under British Rule, the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine “blessed him that gave as well as him that took, by forming for England ‘a little loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism”. [Ronald Storrs, Orientations, p.405.]
marshen @ 325
It’s a problem for both the left and the right.
On the right, it pits greed-head corporatists against racist elements left over from the Confederacy.
On the left, it pits those sympathetic to the plight of the unfortunate against environmentalists and elements of the labor movement, e.g., Caesar Chavez — see.
TexBetsy @ 217
That is one of the greatest propaganda tricks of all time. Zionism has its roots in the same blood-and-land paradigms as Nazism. For Zionism it was “A land without a people for a people without a land.”
But what of the indigenous population? Oh, they are merely people, Arabs to be specific. They can live anywhere in Arabia. But they are not “a people,” so they don’t deserve “a land.”
Get it? The forceful displacement of an indgenous population is a form of genocide. But here was have justified genocide by depriving the victims of the indefinite article.
“Hawkins, I’ve got some bad news for you. I know that Google Bombs are enough of a deadly, truly frightening agency of destruction that any sane man or woman would quail in their boots to be threatened with such awesome fire-power. There’s just one problem. Google re-wrote their software to make nuisance-linking a thing of the past.”
I’ve got even worse news for John Boy. The democrats didn’t lose a single seat. So unless he wants to take credit for the–what, one or two?–democratic party candidates who didn’t win a seat from an incumbent, Google’s code rewrite wouldn’t matter.
unleash the dogs of waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Thank you for that. So much.
Oh, cry havoc. Unleash the dogs of waaaaaaaah
TRex strikes again. I gotta start collecting these.
-GFO
GuyFromOhio @ 331
No doubt…somebody call a waaaahmbulance!
It was the greatest PR coup of all time, the first time a Republican decided that it WAS okay to accuse a non-Republican of being “anti-America” as a form of argument.
Because it’s pretty much standard operating procedure at this point.