I'll let you decide which is which [my comments in italics]:
ABC's "This Week" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; talk show host Rachael Ray. [Rachel Ray? What, Sarah Lee wasn't available? Thank God we have Nancy up against the Nancy Boy]
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CBS' "Face the Nation" Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; military historian Fred Kagan; retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton. [Because you can never get enough of the Kagan family to screw up a country]
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NBC's "Meet the Press" Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., presidential candidate; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Douglas Brinkley, editor of President Reagan's diaries; Michael Deaver, Reagan's deputy chief of staff; Ed Meese, Reagan administration attorney general. [Monsignor Tim dispenses communion at the Blessed Chapel of St. Ronnie of the Central American Death Squads]
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CNN's "Late Edition" Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Mel Martinez, R-Fla.; Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Calif.; Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, presidential candidate; Shibley Telhami of the Brookings Institution; Vali Nasr of the Council on Foreign Relations. [Spot any progressives? Nah. Me neither. But these are People To Be Taken Seriously, including, apparently, Ron Paul, after he says a few things the rest of us unserious people have been. . . Saying. For. Years.]
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"Fox News Sunday" Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor; Paul Hays, former House reading clerk. [Because one GOP closet queen on Sunday morning is just never enough]
It should be interesting to see what Schumer has to say about the state of play on Bertie Walnuts. Other than that, another bleak morning mostly comprised of right wing imperial mendacity, all in all.
Shorter Sunday talk shows: James who?




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Morning, Pach. Or perhaps I should say, mourning, after reading your post.
Lot’s of goopers bashing Carter on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal this AM.
allan_in_upstate @ 2
Bright side — no Joe.
James Who?! Funny man.
They want ‘civility’. Comity has nothing to do with it. But, black comedy, now that’s indeed a horse of a different color.
retirin’ in five @ 5
Joe will probably show up on CNN’s This Week at War.
twolf1 @ 4
telling the truth is a major offense in today’s culture.
Morning.
It’s true, no Joe. But they found some more from under the same rock, it seems.
Good morning from L.A. Thanks, Pach, for the talking heads run-down (in every sense of that phrase). Think I’ll skip it all except for Schumer.
Looks like the Sunday Funnies are all trying to kick Comey’s testimony under the carpet. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along…
Net is keeping it alive quite nicely, though.
Good morning. Vali Nasr should be worth listening to on CNN.
And Newt is always a treat; they should ask him about his praise of rightwing religious zealots who want Christianists to control government — and why that makes a good model for an American President.
Good Morning Pachacutec and Firedogs,
think I’ll tivo Face the Nation in the event they let Eaton deal with Kagan
and it just dawned on me – is this CBS trying to rehabilitate itself for firing Batiste ?!?!?
Great cartoon on Jerry Falwell — see Bob Geiger’s Saturday cartoons.
Funny, I never thought of McConnell as a closet queen, because his visage that emits utter jaded depravity must’ve shut down my gaydar.
What I get when I see him on the teevee is: “perv”.
Blessing on those who have the actual abilities to WATCH these a**hats in their talking heads persona. Bad old movies are far easier to stomach, even if I’ve seen them multiple times before.
twolf1 — you still have that link to Newt on Falwell? I thought it was CNN, but can’t find it.
Did someone mention, THE KAGAN FAMILY?
Attaturk @ 17
Heh! My master plan comes to fruition. That was chum in the water for you, Attaturk.
;-]
I-Conn may not be visible, but he is lurking…
http://hartfordbusiness.com/news1606.html
A column about Ned pitching in w/Kerry. But it is really about the I-Conn.
Ends like this:
Course, I needn’t tell ya by now who Dean Pagani is, right?
Rowland is a convict.
selise @ 8
you’ve got THAT right.
it must be punished.
because this is the age of the big big lie.
Scarecrow @ 16
Gingrich: Challenge ‘Radical Secularism‘
Newt on Falwell, for all of you in that “growing culture of radical secularism.” It was the most optimistic thing I read all week.
Good morning pups!
cbl—did I detect your pawprints over at the Broder comment free for all?
Some good stuff there. Reality to winger ratio maybe 20:1.
hey pach, g’mornin
I think we need to email our congressman and senators and those of us that can get a conversation with someone that will walk some information over to them, we need to try to get them before they appear on the TEEvee to give them a heads up;
I mentioned yesterday why it is impossible for the president or rove or cheney to allow abu torture to resign;
once he resigns a new Ag will have to be confirmed, it doesn’t matter WHO the democrats allow, they can allow pretty much anyone qualified…that Ag will DEFINITELY be abhorred over the decisions this Ag has made, he will reverse just about every single decision and program
THEREFORE
the Democrats on the TEEvee NEED to point out at every waking opportunity;
“of COURSE the president needs to keep this man on as Ag no matter WHAT crimes he’s committed and BECAUSE he’s committed crimes
since the new Ag will be able to determine the laws that have been broken the president MUST keep gonzo BECAUSE HE KNOWS CRIMES WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE BAR OF JUSTICE”
now, they need to do that, they need to pin patriotism on a new Ag too, they need to do things like;
“all we will require is a competent scholar of law who will HONOR his oath of office and to the country, if we have an Ag that HONORS their oath to country, the democrats will be MORE then happy regardless the Ag might be a republican”
then the democrats can start to float a few names, obviously they will float comey who is a republican, they will do it with snark;
“if the president was serious about the rule of law and wanted to prove to the country he is not involved in the programs that violate our law and put our national security in peril, nominating long time republican comey would go a long way to re establish the integrity of office he has lost”
OH BABY, I LOVE that.
of course that would be said with snarkalishousness…only to continue;
“and of course the president might think to nominate an Ag we ALL know has unwavering integrity, patriotism, respect for the rule of law and honor…of course Patrick Fitzgerald is an obvious candidate”
OH MAN, the democrats can have TONS of fun with this
then they NEED to go on;
“will the president ask Gonzales to resign?…of course not, once he resigns ANY new Ag will make it clear the decisions of Gonzales were depraved and the government engaged in programs that stole from Americans and harmed national security”
tee hee
I’m hoping some staff reads the lake this morning
don’t forget sam seder’s new show today.
at sam’s place bill scher has some questions for the sunday
gasbagstalk show guests.it will take at least another 15 years until the sunday talk shows are purged of this generation of gooper courtiers.
which is why i don’t feel a need to watch. i like th efeeling of them off in some bell jar, prattling on endlessly to one another.
dmg @ 26
it will take a new fairness doctrine and breaking up corporate ownership of media, from five to over fifty, the way it was before the fairness doctrine was rescinded by reagan
that’s all it will take, one two term president and 8 years of progressive congress
Joe Lie’s not on because he doesn’t want to be asked about Abu.
Someone earlier said that would be a nice bi-partisan issue for him to tackle.
Pachacutec @ 18
Like Mr. T, I love it when a plan comes together.
But “I ain’t gettin’ on no airplane, Hannibal”.
Pach — NYT has a pretty good editorial on the immigration deal.
Hey, I know we all pay our tributes to Ronald Reagan’s Central American death squads.
But hey, let’s be fair here:
He also helped tremendously with Southern African death squads (UNITA and RENAMO, in Angola and Mozambique), and helping South Africa invade across the region.
Also, it was Reagan’s Afghan friends, those Muslim fundamentalist gangster terrorist drug dealer warlords, who led straight to the guys who formed the group who attacked us on 9/11/2001.
So besides the greater crimes of genocide (from the UN-sponsored truth commission on the CIA-enabled Guatemalan army’s slaughter of its own Mayan population) and mass slaughter, hey, Reagan also helped prep the most massive foreign terrorist attack ever on US soil.
Give him full credit, now, will ya?
perris @ 24
oh man, that would be great!
El Cid:
Point well taken. Maybe the Monsignor will include that expansive resume review in his hagiographic sermon.
SIGH…and I don’t mean to go all negative as I delurk for a minute but…Rachel Ray is going to talk about hunger in America. It’s interesting that we bash a decent person just because….why? Because Anthony Bourdain doesn’t like her? I actually like them both. There’s room in my life for both ways of looking at food. What we all need to think about is that Ms. Ray’s audience is the audience Democrats need to reach…women. We bash Rachel Ray and yet she’s the type of “celebrity” that can do the progressive cause a lot of good. Another case of the left attacking the left. It’s what kills us everytime. Just my two cents worth.
perris @ 27
who says we don’t have an agenda.
one last one: writing legislation to override the greatest single mistake in supreme court history — that corporations have political free speech.
George Orwell
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Also, a farmer from the heartland, Southern Illinois, I think, had this up early on a Carter says Bush bad thread:
and..
The guy I quoted is a ‘mod’ there, and usually has sensible pithy observations. Slanted, but not vitriolic. Odd.
Scarecrow @ 30
the demcorats HAVE to start floating the ONLY immigration program that will work, one that will get the support of both republican and democrat CONSTITUANTS, though it won’t get the support of anyone who gets their contributions from corporations that need low wage labor;
the only program that will work is enforcing the laws ALREADY on the books that fine and imprison for mulitiple offenses the hiring of undocumented labor
cheap, efficient, we can even use the “three strikes and your out” rule for multiple offenses.
once ONE ceo is jailed, BING, no illegal immigrant problem
why yes egregious one, a very sleepy cbl left some rather lazy love for Mr Broder, why do you ask *g*
Gilliard on Kagan – ‘ nuff said
Attaturk – you may in fact be our Michaelangelo of Photoshop, but anything other than that manly portrait at the above link may be gilding the lilly – I mean I’m all tingly and shit
Hoosierville @ 34
Fair enough. I just don’t like her show, and don’t think much of her cookbooks. Plus, her voice grates on me.
Hoosierville @ 34
What did I miss? Why would anyone not like Rachel Ray?
Scarecrow @ 30
has anyone on the editorial board of the NYT read the compromise?
(not saying that the editorial isn’t right on…. it just drives me nuts to have all these “experts” lecturing the american people on a compromise bill whose language hasn’t even been made public yet)
solai @ 40
aggravated perky, with an intent to commit cheerful?
Re: immigration bill
Heritage seems to have gotten hold of something (pdf warning).
dmg @ 35
an overide will take a constitutional amendment but I believe just about every state will come on board
I don’t believe politicians want to be beholden to corporations but power is a drug and corporations supply the avenue for the drug
once politicians realize they can get their drugs from THE PEOPLE they might actually go along with the amendment and they might acutally start serving THE PEOPLE
what a novel concept, a government for people and by people, not for corporations by corporations
who’da thunk it?
selise @ 41
Kinda like voting on the Patriot Act without ever reading it.
selise @ 41
fwiw, i wouldn’t put it past them being fax a copy of the language. the editorial writers are usually very careful about their language.
got to go to work (my busy season, working 7 days a week)…c all L8ter
perris @ 44
wouldn’t necessarily need to go through the states, though that might be a better (though longer) way. the congress could write a bill, and the prez sign it into law. it would be challenged, and fought up to the sup ct.
where scalia and his corporate henchmen wait. oops. umm, i’ve got to rethink this.
OT – Here’s a great resource to help you bypass 1-800 number robots and talk to an actual human: gethuman 500 database
ItPachacutec @ 39
It’s OK Pach, we just all need to be a little more open-minded about people that are more than likely on our side. I’m not fond of her voice either. I think she’s been “over used” by the Food Network. It used to be one of the few “networks” I was faithful to. I watch “Good Eats” faithfully. But as to the rest…they’ve lost me. I am a big fan of Bourdain’s. I love bad boys. But Ms. Ray has a platform that none of the rest of us have. I hope she uses it well.
The biggest closet queen on tap this morning is Michael Deaver — Reagan’s Rove.
It was Deaver who engineered St. Ronnie’s visit to the Bitburg cemetery where he laid a wreath at the graves of dead Nazis.
Deaver copied the wreath-laying ceremony precisely from Triumph of the Will — even to the use of the same Nazi Hymn, “I Had a Comrade.”
I’m sure Patient Less Than Zero and the Log Cabinettes were quite impressed.
Wonder what music he’ll order up when Nancy buys the farm.
I’m sure Merv Griffin (Will to Nancy’s Grace) has something nice in mind.
As for that other soulless bitch, Hillary, I hear she’s been looking for a campaign song.
Larry Hart write it years ago:
“When Russia was White,
It was White for the classes
And Red for the masses,
Unfortunate asses!
All wealth belonged to few.
When England was Tudor,
The King and his cronies
Had cocktails at Tony’s,
The poor had baloneys,
And that’s how England grew.
Sing “la and huzzah” for the poor folks
As long as the poor folks are your folks.
Finer things are for the finer folk,
Thus society began.
Caviar for peasants is a joke;
It’s too good for the average man.
Supper clubs are for the upper folk,
Packed like sardines in a can.
Through the smoke you get your check and choke;
It’s too good for the average man.
Each poor man has a wife he must stick to,
Rich men have a different habit.
To be caught in flagrante delictu
Is much too good for the average rabbit.
All-night parties, drinking like a Lord,
Fit into our social plan.
Waking in the alcoholic ward
Is too good for the average man.
Rich old age can blossom like a rose;
Plastic surgeons have a plan.
Cutting off your face to spite your nose
Is too good for the average pan.
Fancy foods are for the fancy taste,
Diets for the poorer man.
Gaining too much weight below the waist
Is too good for the average can.
Lots of kids for a poor wife are dandy,
Girls of fashion can be choosy.
Birth control and the modus operandi
Are much too good for the average floozy.
Psychoanalysts are all the whirl;
Rich men pay them all they can.
Waking up to find that he’s a girl
Is too good for the average man.”
Pach – sorry to disagree, but I’d let anything and everything Rachel Ray ‘grate on me’. I ‘heart’ RR.
And, I’ve always been entranced by that voice. YMMV.
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New MA Dem Gov. Deval Patrick does a good thing for the City of Homes:
http://www.boston.com/news/loc…..eld_board/
Early version compliments of current R prez candidate Mitt.
Pachacutec @ 43
thanks pach!
326 pages of friday’s draft… not yet released to thomas yet (as far as i can tell)
hoosierville – i’m wid ya, I once made the mistake of defending Oprah in a Gilliard thread
Scarecrow –
how did they get Newton Leroy Gingrich to stop dancing on Falwell’s grave long enough to make a statement ?!?!
I believe he is already Dobson’s pick and Falwell, although showing an interest via the commencement invitation, was evincing some reticence – so now rejoice ! Newton Leroy’s Great Leap Forward and Rescue of the Republican Party can begin in earnest :)
Bill Clinton, Pancake Pirates Do Rachael Ray
I have an opinion who the “fraudsters” are in the list above. But the main fraud never appears on the Sunday morning talk shows.
cbl @ 54
Now that’s scary. *G* I lurk there too. Frightening what they can do to a cook over there.
latest WaPo/Bro comment:
Yes, the invisible ink iMpeachment word.
From a Jacksonville FL paper a couple weeks back.
Who could foresee?
Sorry to be off topic, but I wanted to pass this along to anyone who might remember jc from Blog for America, especially back during the Howard Dean presidential campaign. She created a lot of unofficial graphics for the campaign, and continued to create graphics by request once the Dean campaign morphed into Democracy for America.
We were saddened to learn from her father that jc died on Mother’s Day. Her mother had died just a couple months ago.
Those who knew jc (even if only “virtually”) have been gathering and sharing memories here and here.
And I’d just like to add to my last comment…I hope Steve gets better. I’ve read his blog for a long time. I miss his voice. It is unique to the nth degree.
Wow–except for Specter/DiFi, you’d think there hadn’t been ANY news this week! Maybe they should give Timmeh’s job to Matt Lauer and Meredith Vieria. They could seek out informed comment on Melinda Doolittle’s ouster.
It’s sad, what “news” has come to.
Not any news they want to discuss.
OT-Over at DKos is a recommended diary entitled ‘Bush Declares Control of All 3 Gov Branches if any Crisis’. Very scary and what we’ve all been worried about. Especially since hurricane season is upon us. I’m not sure if this is now ‘law’ or needs approval.
But, I know this. Someone at FDL will get on it and tell all of us what this means.
Thank you in advance.
I wonder how many elected officials in my party (Dems) would pass a written Democratic test of “ideals”? Yes… that’s right, a litmus test of sorts.
Impeachment as a viable political strategy was poisoned, by design, by the GOPuke’s spurious attack on Clenis.
.
minerva -
was walking by the teevee at work this week only to hear Alex Twit lead in to the story of Doolittle’s ouster with “the unthinkable has happened”
fyi for those who don’t know – H5N1 was/is the designation for the bird flu virus – it was also my first blogging handle – ah memories . . .
Unbelievable. Comey testifies about the complete
lawlessness of the Bush junta and Timmeh has a round table about St. Ronnie Reagan?
I voted for DiFi many times, clear back to when she ran for mayor of SF. Senator Feinstein is a disappointment.
OT – Roadside bomb in Baghdad kills 6 U.S. soldiers
The soldiers killed in the attack Saturday were from the Multinational Division-Baghdad, the military statement said.
Timmeh has no shame. Ever the tool of BushCo even after the Libby trial relevations.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
Exactly. I don’t see anyone else pushing this angle, either.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
jane, i’m always charmed by your ability to be shocked by these putzes’ bad behavior.
cbl @ 66
“I thought you looked familiar.” So, it was you, then?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 68
i remember her on the sf city board of supervisors.
yes, she’s been as big a disappointment as any of the dems.
Ronald Reagan’s politics were horrible. And his wife, her support for stem-cell research notwithstanding, is just as terrible as was her husband. These two were and are fascists.
The Globe disappoints in giving Bugs good ink, which ends thusly:
http://www.boston.com/ae/books…..as/?page=2
Just pisses me off…WHICH EVIDENCE DO YOU MEAN?!
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Dylan:Hurricane -
…’and the all-white jury agreed.’
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
never let the point be missed: this was where the true horror began.
St. Ronnie’s “book” is clearly going to be used as tool for ignoring Al Gore’s new book.
Dead morons are respected by the “Mainstream” — not live smart people.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 68
Jane,
And we wonder why only 40% of Americans support impeacment. *g*
Thanks for the warning re. MTP. It doesn’t come on here until 11:00. Right after “Mass for Shut-ins.” I know this says something but I can quite figure out what it is.
Disclaimer here…it’s not really called “Mass for Shut-ins” anymore….but it used to be.
Ronald Reagan controls Newt Gingrich.
Jane Hamsher @ 67
I guess no one called him up to tell him Comey had testified.
In my voting life, which spans near forty years, none has disappointed me more than one particular Democrat.
Jane, I quoted the wrong comment. Sorry. It, of course was in response to your MTP review. I’m think I’m going to stick with cut n’ paste.
actually Blank –
I believe that H5N1 is the very, very smart public health wonk from Columbia University – there’s a site somewhere where he and other doctors write about various WH Public Health follies – he sometimes writes using the handle Revere
they were responsible for initial reporting on the highly unqualified nature of then HHS Sec Thompson’s ‘Bird Flu Brownie’ – Simonson (link)and Rumsfeld’s investments in Tamilflu
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/10/12/318/65831
Why is Timmee calling Newt Speaker? Is this kosher?
Speaker of the MSM, maybe…
Morning Pach and dawgs!
Pach, it’s a whole lot easier & more instructive to read your delightfully pithy little side-comments than it is to wade thru the sundayNOTsofunnies.
with yer indulgence, i’ll do that this mornin’, just to keep my potential ulcer at bay another morning or so…
i know the repug avalanche/compost-pile-collapse is indeed taking place as we speak.
i just have utterly lost my patience with the slowness of the process.
so much death, damage, mayhem, greed, mal- & mis-feasance,
…TREASON…
has been tolerated far too long by those who knew/know what’s happening, and who just haven’t cared enough to do anything serious to correct the course of our once proud nation.
it’s sunny here today, and the migrant birds are cheering in our woods & yard [;->].
i think i’ll leave the telly off & go stand in that sun for awhile, glorying in something jr. hasn’t yet torn to pieces.
yeah. what-a-pity-party(!)
i’ll be back in a bit. promise. *sniffle*
p.s., i’m proud of having jabbed some local Dem.s around neOH hard enuf to wake ‘em up a bit, this past week, so i figure i’ve earned my lil’ mini-escape from the fray.
i know my temp. mopiness = partly reaction to how unbelievably long it takes even to do that, egad! What’s WRONG with such people?! [Comey who? we should care why? you seem passionate about this…] – O.M.G!?!
I am blissfully unaware of what the talking big brains are offering up on this morning’s talk shows. It was not always thus.
cbl @ 84
Well then, you share good company handle-wise. I’ve always had a fondness for Revereware, and actually the city next to Salem, too. Weird beach though.
twolf1 @ 69
begpardon, but thanks. that’s never OT, until we get our guys & gals outta there. ;->
AP – Israeli warplanes fired missiles into a car carrying Hamas militants and a load of weapons Sunday, killing three people, then demolished arms factories belonging to two Palestinian militant groups, the army said.
I suppose the Bush crowd might consider me a ‘militant’.
HI {{{Jane}}}!
Didn’t even see your comments till now.
How’re you doin’?
Attaturk @ 29
Actually it was Hannibal who loved it when his plan came together. Mainly because his plans were usually incredibly off the wall and nutzo.
But they usually managed to get BA on the plane, one way or another.
solai @ 63
Here’s the link;
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..31456/0376
I watched V for Vendetta last night. It’s very good. ;)
Does anyone think that the Israeli government has in its possession, WMD’s?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 88
yer welcome to come into the sun & listen to the beautiful birdies w/ me if ya like, just for a bit. then we need to get back to work….
did i mention? our bluebirds, nesting just 10 feet from the veg garden right next to the house, have 2 eggs ;->
selise @ 8
You got that right!
Culture of Political Correctness masks truth with a bodyguard of lies.
Insurgents, militants and terrorists. Let me get this straight. These are folks who resist occupation by foreign powers?
these are the dirty stinkin’ hippy doctors I referenced above – a handy bookmark for public health issues – hyped or otherwise :)
effect measure
Adie @ 96
;0)
ccmask @ 85
Without wtching, I would assume (I know, I know!) that it’s one of those honorifics that stays with someone to honor highest office ever held. Kinda like calling Jimmeh, daddy bushCo, or the Clenis Mr Preznit.
why is timmeh hagiographing ragin raygun today?
izzis the day we should be celebrating his demise?
i wouldn’t need much excuse to reprise the happy happy joy joy dance…
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Face The Nation-Arlen very disappointed in Abu but doesn’t know how he’ll vote. He thinks Abu will step down before vote. Hmmmmm
Thanks OKK.
i needed that. back in a bit… honest…
kindof a hard morning here, for some reason…
PeteCO @ 94
Same here. And very scarily prescient. Or historical, I’m not sure which.
The Globe somewhat redeemed:
http://www.boston.com/news/edu…..ens_lives/
Ladies of the Lake would tend to agree, I’d expect…
Feinstein and Specter are on Face The Snark (CBS) talking about the “No Confidence Vote” of Gonzalez in the Senate (next wee?) How many republican votes are there for it?
Specter thinks Gonzalez will step down before the vote.
Specter said the meeting of USAs San Antonio demonstrated DOJ is in bad shape.
Just look at who the GOP is presenting as the cream of their crop for 2008. Mittie, Newtie, Freddy, Rudy and others.
solai @ 102
Scotch that idea.
;->
As someone said upstairs, never OT as long as the Iraq War slogs on- McClatchey’s police blotter from hell for 5/19/07 (hold your breath & wait to see it anywhere in MSM coverage):
Roundup of Violence in Iraq 5/19/07
Now Face The Snark is covering the Comey testimony to the SJC last week. They’re digging into the topic of the dispute at the time, the legality of the warantless wiretapping program.
Meet the Press. Newt asked us to imagine we were France in 1776. I did that. I helped the colonies, had to raise taxes, was overthown in a revolution, and had my head chopped off.
Why is Specter in Burlington VT?
FTN showing the Comey testimony. Arlen says “we know that the pres was personnaly involved”
Thank you for not leading off this post with another stupid YouTube music video, as seems to be the requirement these days (I never click on them).
However, I will never, EVER watch teevee on Sunday morning. The only time I’ve turned it on at all in the last 10 days was to watch Tony Soprano take peyote.
solai @ 103
I think Arlen may well be right. But Gonzales has just 24 hours left before he can step down.
Russert, Matthews, Scheiffer et al dmg @ 77
Make no mistake the horror continues and will continue because the GOP and the MSM will continue to push the Reagan legacy as the last shining moment of American greatness. The public dumbed down and barely conscious will continue to buy into this media crafted myth. The Sunday talk shows are not meant to inform and enlighten but to indoctrinate and propagandize. To think Russert, Matthews, Schieffer et al are in someway redeemable if only they would do their duty as honest members of the 4th Estate is naive. They are not journalists. They have nothing to gain having reached the pinnacle of “success” in their chosen mediums and much to lose. For that reason they must maintain the myth for their own self-preservation.
Blank Kludge @ 109
Don’t you mean Specter “Haggis” fooled again?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
“Terrorists, terrorists, terrorists. In the Middle East, in the entire Muslim world, this word would become a plague, a meaningless punctuation mark in all our lives, a full stop erected to finish all discussion of injustice, constructed as a wall by by Russians, Americans, Israelis, British, Pakistanis, Saudis, Turks, to shut us up. Who would ever say a word in favour of terrorists?, What cause could justify terror? So our enemies are always “terrorists”. In the seventeenth century, governments used “heretic” in much the same way, to end all dialogue, to prescribe obedience.”
Robert Fisk, from “The Great War For Civilisation.”
emptywheel @ 81
if i didn’t know better, i’d think they were trying with all their might to squash the whole Comey story & all its tendrils.
that won’t happen while i’m still alive & kicking…. gang?
Blank Kludge @ 109
Specter hopes he steps down before the vote because then Specter will not be forced to show his true hand. He fears his own hypocrisy will be exposed. Should it come to a vote don’t be surprised if Specter finds a way to weasel out of a vote of no confidence.
Kagan v. Eaton right now on FTN.
Anyone read the DKos piece? What do you think?
One comment said this SOP and not to worry. I’d love not to worry, but that hasn’t worked out well so far.
I really want a vote. Just to see how Lieberman votes.
there is no way gonzo steps down voluntarily. NO WAY.
he’s simply too valuable to the administration both as a lightning rod and, more importantly, as a cap on the sheer range of corruptions running through doj.
why are so goddamm many Repug’s fat, pasty, and fucking insane bald-faced liars?
dmg @ 124
I agree. He’s got the ultimate job insurance.
emptywheel @ 115
Pardon my density, but why?
(and what great news!)
jayt @ 125
In-breeding.
jayt @ 126
because that’s what you have to be to make it up the greasy pole in gooperville.
the ability to lie — publically and repeatedly, if not necessarily well — is the single most respected ability within gop politics.
at least it’s not gender specific. look at all the women who , again, don’t lie particularly well, but lie anyway. it’s how you show toughness in the ansence of any true bravery.
obesity seems to be a Republican family value.
emptywheel @ 117
ohhh…I hadn’t thought of it like that.
Maybe you can BlackBerry him a reminder…
Quite a conundrum allround. We live in interesting times. Blessing or curse?
Something for beach reading:
http://www.rambles.net/bradley_holmes04.html
Remarkable resemblance. With a few details, timelines, location needing fixing…but still…that owlish beam.
jayt @ 125
Have you every read through the bribery indictments they’re getting?
It reads like a morality tale of how not to eat:
Capital Grille, $1500
Capital Grille, $875
Morton’s Steakhouse, $1200
and so on
These guys subsist on dead cow, scotch, and under the table payments.
Only when the stranglehold of the MSM, with it’s propaganidizing and outright misdirection when a major story aries i.e. Comey, is broken will there be any hope of saving the nation. The blogs have gone a long way but it seems that there needs to be a strategy for taking the blogs to the “general public”, circumventing the conventional sources of information dissemination.
jayt @ 122
Mr. Everything is Hunk-Dory in Iraq meets General We Need A Bigger Army. That’s what still passes for balance in the media.
Why will he step down? So that he doesn’t go down in history to be the only AG with a vote of no confidence. I’m not saying he will, but that ’s the reason they’re speculating.
emptywheel @ 133
so-o-o… their survival rate stands as proof they’re heartless???
During the “Gilded Age” those of portly proportions were considered “successful”. It’s a psychologocial mandate for Republicans to carry that mantle of success.
PeteCO @ 119
For some reason when I first saw this I read it as “The Great War for Fossilization”. Curiously, it works better than the original.
solai @ 135
Silly me. I was
thinkingwishing the no confidence vote would legally constrain Abu’s scope of action.Adie @ 136
LOL
Actually, there’s a study at UM right now examining the way that under the table payments clears arteries and lowers cholestoral.
Lyin’ is to the Goopers as fingers are to the Yakuza – it’s a matter of ‘loyalty’ over truth when your operative motto is:
Party Before Country
Lying to advance the Agenda is considered by the GOP to be praiseworthy and a badge of honor.
They really don’t care about the Constitution, Equality and Fairness – the NeoCons are willing to do anything to get Their Way, and they are more than willing, sometimes even deliberately planning, to lie to the rest of US as they do it.
When Evil walks amongst us, it’s smart enough to disguise itself as something Good.
emptywheel @ 141
’splain JerryF!?! go figger!
gonzo wont step down…
his job is to infuriate and distract the congress.
he’s supposed to effectively DARE the Congress to impeach him, and thereby to suck all the oxygen out of any OTHER impeachment efforts…
imho
Every time a Repug says “the Iraqi’s I talked to on my latest visit to Iraq say things are getting better” should be immediately followed up with the question – “and just who were those Iraqi’s and where did you meet to talk to them?”
They’re like Pillsbury dough boys which can be wound to spout John Wayne lines.
solai @ 136
I don’t know. Gonzales has been a boot licking Bush flunky for most of his professional life. If he has survived and even reveled in that level of demeaning, a vote of no confidence seems paltry in comparison.
PMA @ 146
link & graphic PULEEZE!
solai @ 135
And the reason to crow when he beats all the odds, and emerges unscathed and victorious. Damn the USA’s. Damn the Senate. Damn the Constitutiion. AGAG wins!
I’ve been putting stuff up somewhere else on all this crap since 1-18. Point one: Song remains the same. Never explains, provides docs, etc.
Point 2: There’s no such thing as a smoking gun. Just oozing craters across the landscape that look like mortar shell results. Hatch: “Not a shred of credible evidence of wrongdoing.”
and what exactly IS improper in this kind of situation?
Conspiring w/43 to not clear security for OPR investigators of FISA violations? Is that improper?
Or just using DoJ for electioneering?
I WANT ANSWERS!
Hugh @ 147
definition of syncophant, please?
has gonzo ever known anything else, in his whole, complete career?
radiofreewill @ 141
Wow – the operational definition of megacorp morality.
No wonder the GOP owns the megacorps’ agenda.
The GOP took their values from the megacorps.
jeebus – this is one disappointed Eaton fan
Adie,
B-rad voter fraud Scholzman
Scott Bloch
jayt @ 126
You remember the old game at the company picnic or county fair called “greased pig”, yes?
new thread upstairs – EW!
Emptywheel has a new one upstairs!
Neil @ 113
Pleading with Leahy to hold off the vote of no confidence?
I cancelled my cable a couple weeks ago and I’m too far out to receive broadcast. I like it. Reading second hand accounts of MSM Sunday morning BS is enough for me.
Russert’s Reality – a replay of the Reagan years. Nothing more interesting going on today, I guess. Still doesn’t justify his inflicting Ed Meese on us once again, except to make Gonzo look competent and to distract us from the guy who’s president now rather than the guy who read the teleprompter twenty years ago.
I imagine that’s Timmo’s bid for his library to be put up next to Ronno’s.
Adie @ 150
he can’t step down, the new ag will be brutal for this president, what he’s done and what he continues doing will be rebuked by ANYONE who is qualified for the position regardless part affiliation
abu torture stays till he’s impeached unless the democrats point this out and embarrass teh president into asking for his resignation
this is my opinion
new thread
toolpusher @ 159
prove it with a link so we don’t need double clickage*g*
syncophant = toady (in the vernacular of course)
Let’s not forget, everyone, that Mr. Law & Order Ed Meese was also the Attorney General who neither prevented the biggest theft in then-US history, nor investigated and prosecuted any but a few tokens for the Reagan-pushed, Triangulator-Democrat approved destruction of one whole wing of the US banking system, the Savings & Loan industry.
But that’s okay, because you & I had to pay it back to the tune of $200 – $500 BILLION dollars. (And that was in 1980’s dollars.)
Each time these Reaganite right wing pseudopopulist revolutionaries get in power — and Bush Jr. is really just Reagan II — they cause a financial collapse and theft closing at the trillion dollar level.
I read it in a comment thread here. Abu resigns just after the Senate goes on recess.
Then Bush appoints new crony as AG. No confirmation required.
For those who don’t recall, here’s a start.
So, once again, all the “Law & Order” Republicans like the useless and corrupt Ed Meese vanish when it’s real, big, nation-wide theft, and they only show up and publicly scream for jail time when it’s just some non-rich guy killing or robbing on the small scale.
Once again, if you rob someone of $50 by armed robbery, you get hard time, but if you pay politicians not to watch you steal $200 Billion, hey, no biggie.
I keep a constant sign on my door, listing the number of fatalities (or what we know about) in Iraq. As I was updating the number (last evening – 3315; this morning – 3322), I heard that bastard Fred Kagan on FTN, talking about how marvelous things were in Iraq, how we’re ‘making progress’, how some areas are complicated (read: FUBAR) and how the Iraqi Police Force presents a ‘mixed picture’ (see FUBAR, supra).
Kagan, his brother and his sister-in-law are the consummate evil. The very notion that anyone would give this POS air time is deeply repugnant to me. I ought to also take myself to task for having the TV on while he sullies the screen.
Excuse me: make that 3422
Well, God bless Katrina Vanden Heuvel, one of the few commentators you can count on not to let the talking heads just regurgitate Repub talking points without objecting. This Week did cover Comey’s testimony regarding the happenings in Ashcroft’s hospital room. Even George Will stated that it was like something out of a thriller “set in a banana republic”.
When it was said that Abu Gonzales would have to resign for the President to put this behind him, Katrina laid into them. She said that all that would do is open the way for yet further investigation into Attorneygate, Rove, and the politicization of the DoJ.
Once in a while they screw up and let an articulate liberal voice on the screen.
I had to scroll all the way down past 160 comments of bitching about the usual Sunday gasbags (with which I agree, by the way) to finally see ONE comment about Katrina Vanden Heuvel on Stephanopolous this morning! She was fresh & bright as a new penny, said everything I would have said (as opposed to the usual oatmeal Steph’s supposed “liberal” commenters emit) and knocked George Will off his talking points more than once (delicious to see!).
So before this thread gets stone cold,I want to raise a firepup paw for Katrina–and plan to write “This Week” later to send them some appreciation for FINALLY, FINALLY having someone on who represents what so many of us believe.
Anyone wants to join me, please do, I’m sure the suits can use all the encouragement we can muster to book her (or another progressive) back on the show.
I have a question: When the Christiansists start their tirades against xxxx, why aren’t they called on it? It doesn’t matter if it is turning the Us inti a theocracy, praying in school, hatign gays, there is only one reply:
“What did Christ say about this? What did He say are the two greatest commandments? How did Christ teach us to act, in his sermon on the mount (The beatitudes)?”
They will always hem & haw around this, because they know they are ignoring the teachings of jesus, and this is where they are stopped- one simple finesse:
“If you know what Christ taught us, and yet you ignore it, then you are not a Christian, and are certainly anti Christian.”
Don’t let them try to wiggle around it.
Can anyone tell me how folks why folks like Gingrich, Deaver, and Meese still have a public podium? This isn’t like having a fired football coach doing color commentary. Two of these men resigned from their posts in the middle of scandals, the other was convicted of a lobbying crime. At the very least, every time these guys appear to pontificate, audiences should be reminded of their resumes in toto. Contract on America, a deal they won’t allow the populace to refuse, the gang that can’t shoot straight but can’t stop shooting, the public face of the right wing looks more and more each day, eh Fredo, like a political mob at Uncle Junior’s bedside, does it not?
Would somebody put some goddamn Micky Mouse ears on that mugshot of Mitchey MaC!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 68
Isn’t she working to take out AG Gonzales? WTF do you want?
Pachacutec @ 71
They’re shutting off the soldier’s communication outlet (MySpace, YouTube, etc.). They’re planning to refuse to allow anyone below Colonel to testify to Congress. They refuse to talk about current issues on Sunday Morning political/governmental talk shows. And, Bush has changed the standing orders for national emergencies, so he personally can take over the entire government in case of some kind of ‘emergency’ (presumably to be declared by Dubya himself).
Yep, nothing to see here. Move along.
Finally, I think (?), a favorable mention of Ron Paul on a MSB (main stream blog). I don’t read every word of all MSB’s, but Atrios, Kos, Digby etc. hasn’t peeped a word about the man.