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		<title>By: apple pie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705930</link>
		<dc:creator>apple pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lou Dobbs has become a great example of the dinosaur media, bent on displaying an arrogance that is more suited to pre-civil rights days. By attaching pejoratives to a particular racial culture and then defining white culture as law-abiding is absurd, and Dobbs know it is absurd. It is the constant attack on progress by perpetuating a mythic past, something Reagan and other despots did&lt;br /&gt;
so well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should be looking towards Latino culture in America as a significant force for positive change, as a movement away from the corporate model of privatized ineptness and corruption, or the divisive dynamic that has unfortunately characterized other racial group relations in our nation. But this has to depend on inclusiveness rather than dehumanization, imprisonment and expulsion&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dobbs end-run to racial divisiveness has only one bloody ending. Good for Laura to bring up the whole fundamental issue of how we treat other members of the human species here in 21st century America, especially if they have a darker skin color or speak another language.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou Dobbs has become a great example of the dinosaur media, bent on displaying an arrogance that is more suited to pre-civil rights days. By attaching pejoratives to a particular racial culture and then defining white culture as law-abiding is absurd, and Dobbs know it is absurd. It is the constant attack on progress by perpetuating a mythic past, something Reagan and other despots did<br />
so well.</p>
<p>We should be looking towards Latino culture in America as a significant force for positive change, as a movement away from the corporate model of privatized ineptness and corruption, or the divisive dynamic that has unfortunately characterized other racial group relations in our nation. But this has to depend on inclusiveness rather than dehumanization, imprisonment and expulsion</p>
<p>Dobbs end-run to racial divisiveness has only one bloody ending. Good for Laura to bring up the whole fundamental issue of how we treat other members of the human species here in 21st century America, especially if they have a darker skin color or speak another language.</p>
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		<title>By: SB_Gypsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705828</link>
		<dc:creator>SB_Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The phrase becomes a way of negating any recognition that perhaps the nation’s dysfunctional immigration laws, which render millions of hardworking contributors to the national economy noncitizens….&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to miss your point, but the laws were made almost a century ago, and thus must nessessarily have been in effect long before most of the South Americans who are here without a green card came over our borders. That means that they &lt;b&gt;made themselves&lt;/b&gt; illegal aliens, and banning that name will not change reality. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Otherwise, a good point - that by calling all the demonstrators illegals he has tarred and slandered probably the vast majority of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The phrase becomes a way of negating any recognition that perhaps the nation’s dysfunctional immigration laws, which render millions of hardworking contributors to the national economy noncitizens….</i></p>
<p>Not to miss your point, but the laws were made almost a century ago, and thus must nessessarily have been in effect long before most of the South Americans who are here without a green card came over our borders. That means that they <b>made themselves</b> illegal aliens, and banning that name will not change reality. </p>
<p>Otherwise, a good point &#8211; that by calling all the demonstrators illegals he has tarred and slandered probably the vast majority of them.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Hatten</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705694</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Hatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 13:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know this is an opinion not all accept, but I offer it for all, including Mr. Dobbs. Maybe we can consider the view that each and every one among us is a child of God…with spirit and soul and spark of the Holy is each one of us. Thanks for the commentary on the degradation of being alien. Does not apply to a child of God. The children’s song says: “Red, brown, black or white, They’re all precious in God’s sight.” What a concept. This is one of the basic truths I teach to the kids in my congregation where many have suffered many sore difficulties: precious and loved by God. Maybe if we could promote this view, including to our very Methodist Pres., we would not be quite so willing to kill “the other.” We have a bumper sticker around here that reminds us that Loving one’s neighbor does not mean execution. This would be true even if we label them illegal, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is an opinion not all accept, but I offer it for all, including Mr. Dobbs. Maybe we can consider the view that each and every one among us is a child of God…with spirit and soul and spark of the Holy is each one of us. Thanks for the commentary on the degradation of being alien. Does not apply to a child of God. The children’s song says: “Red, brown, black or white, They’re all precious in God’s sight.” What a concept. This is one of the basic truths I teach to the kids in my congregation where many have suffered many sore difficulties: precious and loved by God. Maybe if we could promote this view, including to our very Methodist Pres., we would not be quite so willing to kill “the other.” We have a bumper sticker around here that reminds us that Loving one’s neighbor does not mean execution. This would be true even if we label them illegal, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705623</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Holy crap. Lou Dobbs is such a racist. Thank you Laura Flanders and TRex for highlighting this. He really hates China. What’s up with racist attitude toward the Chinese sculptor. Could someone remind Lou that some of world’s greatest artists–Maya Lin and IM Pei– are &lt;em&gt;Chinese&lt;/em&gt;. Yale University and Paul Mellon certainly think so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap. Lou Dobbs is such a racist. Thank you Laura Flanders and TRex for highlighting this. He really hates China. What’s up with racist attitude toward the Chinese sculptor. Could someone remind Lou that some of world’s greatest artists–Maya Lin and IM Pei– are <em>Chinese</em>. Yale University and Paul Mellon certainly think so.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I feel the same way when Lou and his standins use the term “Communist China” over and over. It’s obviously in the script. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s interesting to me though…..these people are bashing China but don’t seem to see anything wrong with the Walmartization of this country, and I’m sure their houses are as full of cheap Chinese junk as the next person.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just as I suspect most of them employ gardeners, nannies, and maids of questionable documentation bacause they don’t want to pay the high price of healthcare, Soc Sec, and so forth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way when Lou and his standins use the term “Communist China” over and over. It’s obviously in the script. </p>
<p>It’s interesting to me though…..these people are bashing China but don’t seem to see anything wrong with the Walmartization of this country, and I’m sure their houses are as full of cheap Chinese junk as the next person.</p>
<p>just as I suspect most of them employ gardeners, nannies, and maids of questionable documentation bacause they don’t want to pay the high price of healthcare, Soc Sec, and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronzoni Rigatoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronzoni Rigatoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 08:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-705155&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 104&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The cicadas are coming, the cicadas are coming.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just what the Fundgelical midwest needs is an insect plague to plunge them further into Apocalyptic fervor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070520/ap_on_re_us/cicada_invasion&quot;&gt;30 days to live.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anybody have any good cicada recipes?  Some folx love ‘em.  Mmmmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-705155"><em>GSD @ 104</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The cicadas are coming, the cicadas are coming.</p>
<p>Just what the Fundgelical midwest needs is an insect plague to plunge them further into Apocalyptic fervor.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070520/ap_on_re_us/cicada_invasion">30 days to live.</a></p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>Anybody have any good cicada recipes?  Some folx love ‘em.  Mmmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Dover Bitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dover Bitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 06:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-705454&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mike @ 364&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Question: Is this person a citizen of another country?&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore this person is an alien(look it up)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Question: Did this person enter the US legally?&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: No&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore this person has violated the law and, therefore, is illegal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An alien here illegally is an illegal alien. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Q: Is this person here to pursue the American Dream through hard work?&lt;br /&gt;
A: Yes (for the vast majority)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Q: Does this person have documentation?&lt;br /&gt;
A: No.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Therefore, this is an undocumented worker.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can play this game either way. The question is whether you want to label this person as some sort of criminal non-contributor or a person who has accepted what has undeniably been a tacit invitation by America to work for the most minimal compensation the economy will allow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-705454"><em>Mike @ 364</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Question: Is this person a citizen of another country?<br />
Answer: Yes<br />
Therefore this person is an alien(look it up)</p>
<p>Question: Did this person enter the US legally?<br />
Answer: No<br />
Therefore this person has violated the law and, therefore, is illegal.</p>
<p>An alien here illegally is an illegal alien. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept.</p>
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<p>Q: Is this person here to pursue the American Dream through hard work?<br />
A: Yes (for the vast majority)</p>
<p>Q: Does this person have documentation?<br />
A: No.</p>
<p>Therefore, this is an undocumented worker.</p>
<p>You can play this game either way. The question is whether you want to label this person as some sort of criminal non-contributor or a person who has accepted what has undeniably been a tacit invitation by America to work for the most minimal compensation the economy will allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705454</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 06:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Probably the central example of this is the nativists’ insistence on calling undocumented workers “illegal aliens”, a phrase clearly intended to cast these immigrants both as The Other and, most especially, as lawbreakers. The phrase becomes a way of negating any recognition that perhaps the nation’s dysfunctional immigration laws, which render millions of hardworking contributors to the national economy noncitizens, might actually be the problem.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Question: Is this person a citizen of another country?&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore this person is an alien(look it up)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Question: Did this person enter the US legally?&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: No&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore this person has violated the law and, therefore, is illegal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An alien here illegally is an illegal alien. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Probably the central example of this is the nativists’ insistence on calling undocumented workers “illegal aliens”, a phrase clearly intended to cast these immigrants both as The Other and, most especially, as lawbreakers. The phrase becomes a way of negating any recognition that perhaps the nation’s dysfunctional immigration laws, which render millions of hardworking contributors to the national economy noncitizens, might actually be the problem.
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<p>Question: Is this person a citizen of another country?<br />
Answer: Yes<br />
Therefore this person is an alien(look it up)</p>
<p>Question: Did this person enter the US legally?<br />
Answer: No<br />
Therefore this person has violated the law and, therefore, is illegal.</p>
<p>An alien here illegally is an illegal alien. I’m not sure why this is such a difficult concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705439</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 06:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-705366&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Suzanne @ 313&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LooHoo, I’ve only been to Hawaii once.  I was not quite 3 months pregnant and every picture of me from that trip is captioned “Suzanne at (location) just before she threw up” or “Suzanne just after throwing up”.  Memorable trip.  One day, I want to visit Hawaii again.  This time, no passengers allowed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bummer!  Hawaii is so beautiful, isn’t it?  I will never forget the true meaning of tropical breeze.  Just smelled so beautiful and clean when I was there late 80’s.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-705366"><em>Suzanne @ 313</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LooHoo, I’ve only been to Hawaii once.  I was not quite 3 months pregnant and every picture of me from that trip is captioned “Suzanne at (location) just before she threw up” or “Suzanne just after throwing up”.  Memorable trip.  One day, I want to visit Hawaii again.  This time, no passengers allowed.</p>
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<p>Bummer!  Hawaii is so beautiful, isn’t it?  I will never forget the true meaning of tropical breeze.  Just smelled so beautiful and clean when I was there late 80’s.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-nite-fdl-rehumanize-yourself/#comment-705421</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 05:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Alias@356&quot;&gt;Alias@356&lt;/a&gt;, Sssh, mine started receding before greying, and both are winning!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Alias@356">Alias@356</a>, Sssh, mine started receding before greying, and both are winning!!!</p>
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