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		<title>By: jayackroyd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705635</link>
		<dc:creator>jayackroyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Excellent question, have wondered that myself. The optimum limit on functionality seems to be 300, depending on the size of the comments. Must be that each call on the server to open, refresh or add must pull the entire comment string rather than check first for cache refresh. Must be the database app itself, yes?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes.  Not the database backend, which is probably mysql, but the application itself. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On cacheing previous data requests, I assumed that the refresh comments button is an implementation of a cache. Hitting the F5 key does a full requery, while the refresh comments button does an append to the records already in local memory.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s true that I don’t have much experience with small databases that have lots of users–the biggest users group I’ve dealt with is around 20,000, mostly inactive, users.  So the dynamics of tens of thousands of users a day may be beyond my ken.  But it still seems odd to me that a key metric is the number of comments.  As I said, it’s not just here, so there is something going on I just don’t get.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Excellent question, have wondered that myself. The optimum limit on functionality seems to be 300, depending on the size of the comments. Must be that each call on the server to open, refresh or add must pull the entire comment string rather than check first for cache refresh. Must be the database app itself, yes?</i></p>
<p>Yes.  Not the database backend, which is probably mysql, but the application itself. </p>
<p>On cacheing previous data requests, I assumed that the refresh comments button is an implementation of a cache. Hitting the F5 key does a full requery, while the refresh comments button does an append to the records already in local memory.</p>
<p>It’s true that I don’t have much experience with small databases that have lots of users–the biggest users group I’ve dealt with is around 20,000, mostly inactive, users.  So the dynamics of tens of thousands of users a day may be beyond my ken.  But it still seems odd to me that a key metric is the number of comments.  As I said, it’s not just here, so there is something going on I just don’t get.</p>
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		<title>By: HotFlash</title>
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		<dc:creator>HotFlash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to the Balrogs! I rejoice that there is one more fiery demon among us and because it’s my birthday too, I just know he’s going to be 110% wonderful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the world, young Master Balrog.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the Balrogs! I rejoice that there is one more fiery demon among us and because it’s my birthday too, I just know he’s going to be 110% wonderful.</p>
<p>Welcome to the world, young Master Balrog.</p>
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		<title>By: S.O.S. from MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.O.S. from MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-705599&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cbl @ 173&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;… here’s another for the ‘calendar’…&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tnx :) for the good wishes, cbl!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A quick Google added a middle initial to Hans von Spakovsky’s name… and the event you so kindly provided is now in the calendar.  So, tnx again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I sure hope that von’s not too “into” Ferragamo footwear as much as is a certain Secretary of State, else his scheduled testimony might have to be pushed back because of its conflict with the (FICTIONAL!!) Ferragamo sale in NYC that is going on all that week… :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-705599"><em>cbl @ 173</em></a>
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<blockquote><p>… here’s another for the ‘calendar’…</p></blockquote>
<p>Tnx :) for the good wishes, cbl!  </p>
<p>A quick Google added a middle initial to Hans von Spakovsky’s name… and the event you so kindly provided is now in the calendar.  So, tnx again.</p>
<p>I sure hope that von’s not too “into” Ferragamo footwear as much as is a certain Secretary of State, else his scheduled testimony might have to be pushed back because of its conflict with the (FICTIONAL!!) Ferragamo sale in NYC that is going on all that week… :)</p>
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		<title>By: GrandmaJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705611</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandmaJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the last “Late Night” thread, Bobbles at 40 wrote &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is anyone going to YearlyKos in Chicago? It would be SO wonderful if there were a Firedoglake or EmptyWheel panel on the firings of the US attorneys, the Comey testimony, FISA, and the other mayhem. at the DOJ., connecting all the dates, etc.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But apart from that, is anyone else going? I will be staying at the convention hotel, the Hyatt, and I am hoping that some other FDL people will be there &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will be in Chicago staying at the convetion hotel along with GrandmaJo.  And certainly concur with the panel discussion idea.  We really hope to meet up with other FDL pups while there.  Especially the FDL breakfast I heard about from last year.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So bobbles if you are reading this morning — see you there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the last “Late Night” thread, Bobbles at 40 wrote </p>
<p><i>Is anyone going to YearlyKos in Chicago? It would be SO wonderful if there were a Firedoglake or EmptyWheel panel on the firings of the US attorneys, the Comey testimony, FISA, and the other mayhem. at the DOJ., connecting all the dates, etc.</i></p>
<p>But apart from that, is anyone else going? I will be staying at the convention hotel, the Hyatt, and I am hoping that some other FDL people will be there </p>
<p>I will be in Chicago staying at the convetion hotel along with GrandmaJo.  And certainly concur with the panel discussion idea.  We really hope to meet up with other FDL pups while there.  Especially the FDL breakfast I heard about from last year.  </p>
<p>So bobbles if you are reading this morning — see you there.</p>
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		<title>By: njprogressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>njprogressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to the extended families of Balrogs and SOS!  Wishing all much happiness and sleep!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the extended families of Balrogs and SOS!  Wishing all much happiness and sleep!</p>
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		<title>By: cbl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705608</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rules.senate.gov/members/&quot;&gt;quite the Rovian pedigree&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MIT &amp; Vanderbilt&lt;br /&gt;
-Florida Recount&lt;br /&gt;
-Federalist Society&lt;br /&gt;
-Voter Integrity Project&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will be facing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rules.senate.gov/members/&quot;&gt;these folks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rules.senate.gov/members/">quite the Rovian pedigree</a></p>
<p>MIT &amp; Vanderbilt<br />
-Florida Recount<br />
-Federalist Society<br />
-Voter Integrity Project</p>
<p>will be facing</p>
<p><a href="http://rules.senate.gov/members/">these folks</a></p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705605</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/21/coalition-of-the-had-enough/&quot;&gt;New thread…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/21/coalition-of-the-had-enough/">New thread…</a></p>
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		<title>By: Balrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Balrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks to everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I told you guys before any family members)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a boy, Mrs. Walker, it’s a boy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone.</p>
<p>(I told you guys before any family members)</p>
<p>It’s a boy, Mrs. Walker, it’s a boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705603</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-705597&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayackroyd @ 172&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do the servers crash when there are too many comments?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Excellent question, have wondered that myself.  The optimum limit on functionality seems to be 300, depending on the size of the comments.  Must be that each call on the server to open, refresh or add must pull the entire comment string rather than check first for cache refresh.  Must be the database app itself, yes?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-705597"><em>jayackroyd @ 172</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Why do the servers crash when there are too many comments?  </p>
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<p>Excellent question, have wondered that myself.  The optimum limit on functionality seems to be 300, depending on the size of the comments.  Must be that each call on the server to open, refresh or add must pull the entire comment string rather than check first for cache refresh.  Must be the database app itself, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: sophie g</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/20/late-late-nite-sunday-nite/#comment-705601</link>
		<dc:creator>sophie g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations, Balrog!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, Balrog!</p>
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