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(Joanne Peyton of the International Campaign to Stop Honor Killings may be able to stop by and share more information with us in the comments. If she is not able to make the live discussion (she's in London) she will add information in comments tomorrow - please remember to come back and check on her update)
Over the past few days, there's been a burst of media coverage of the horrific 'honor killing' of Du’a Khalil Aswad, a young Yazidi woman in Iraq. The murder itself occured around April 7th and we had first discussed it a few weeks ago when an Amnesty International report was released.
As the media discovers this murder they are also using the killing as one more sign of the "evils of Islam." CNN International puts it this way :
The case portrays the tragedy and brutality of honor killings in the Muslim world.
While CNN is certainly right that this killing was brutal and a tragedy, they make a critical mistake - Du'a was a Yazidi woman. The Yazidi are not Muslim (nor Arab). In fact, the Yazidi are a rather closed tribal group, living mostly in Kurdistan and are often quite hostile to their Muslim neighbors (many Kurds are also quite hostile to them.) We do not honor her by ignoring the actual facts which led to her murder.
CNN also does not mention another fact. As Yifat Susskind, the communications director of MADRE, reminds us:
while the US saw fit to violate international law by eradicating most of Iraq's legal system, it maintained Article 130 of the penal code, which provides vastly reduced sentences for "honor killings" (as little as six months, as opposed to life imprisonment, which is the minimum sentence for murder).(iii)
Susskind then continues:
Despite the many ways that US policies have contributed to the increase in "honor killing" in Iraq, most people in the US continue to view these crimes as an invariable part of Iraqi, Arab, or Muslim "culture." For instance, US journalist Kay Hymowitz defines "honor killing" as part of the "inventory of brutality" committed by men against women in the "Muslim world," railing against "the savage fundamentalist Muslim oppression of women."(vi)
Hymowitz echoes a commonly held assumption, namely that gender-based violence in the Middle East derives from Islam. In fact, "honor killings" are not condoned by any Islamic texts, but are rooted in customary law that pre-dates Islam and Christianity. Identifying Islam or "Muslim culture" as the source of violence against women serves to dehumanize Muslims and justify violence against them. It also deflects attention from factors (such as politics, economics, and militarism) that influence the prevalence of gender-based violence, and obscures the ways that US actions have exacerbated conditions that give rise to violence against women.
In fact, culture alone explains very little. Like all human behavior, "honor killing" does have a cultural dimension, but like culture itself, "honor killing" is shaped by social factors such as poverty and women's status that change--and can be changed--in ways that can either help combat or promote "honor killing." For instance, poverty-inducing economic policies, such as the 2003 US decision to fire all public-sector workers in Iraq (40 percent of whom were women), have contributed to the rise in "honor killings." Increased poverty has made people more dependent on tribal structures for jobs, housing, and other scarce resources and compelled more women into polygamous, forced, and abusive marriages, where they are at greater risk of "honor killing."
The media's adoption of the tragedy of Du'a's death as an example of "Muslim" "traditions"-- once again demonizing Islam (and hence another way of justifying the continued occupation) -- is something that needs to be countered with accurate information.
Honor killings occur in many countries. The International Campaign against Honor Killing works to stop them, not only by providing accurate information on these tragedies but by taking action and working with groups like The Committee for the Defense of Iraqi Women's Rights and The Organization of Women's Freedom in Iraq.Joanne Peyton of the Campaign contacted me after our first discussion of the case and they could use our support. Please go to their site and consider supporting their work.
It's important to honor the memory of Du'a by working for women's rights and putting an end to 'honor killings.'
(The photo above is from the International Campaign against Honor Killing and is of a demonstration in Arbil/Hewler, capital of Iraqi-Kurdistan after the public stoning of Du'a Khalil Aswad.)
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Important story. I hope there is some good news somewhere next week? Like Gonzo gone…
Thanks, Siun. It is an important story and I’m really glad you’re covering it.
And thanks Joanne for all the important work you do. Welcome.
Siun!
Thanks for your work. You honor our memory of Du’a.
Does anyone know about the exact deal that Paul “If they fuck with me or Shaha, I have enough on them to fuck them too” Wolfowitz blackmailed the World Bank for?
Does he have to pay taxes on any of his income from the World Bank?
Since Joanne is in London, she may well join us via a set of comments at the end given the time difference - but I’ve been extemely interested in the work she and a number of women are doing around this issue.
The links to the Campaign as well as to the other organizations have really valuable info - and ways to help.
Hi Siun,
That is the same thing I wrote about this week. So horrible. One of the articles I read talked about it in the context of domestic violence and violence against women.
We as a nation are not that far removed from variants of the honor killings ourselves. Within my lifetime there have been the men acquited of murdering their wives for finding them in bed with another man and women who have served long prison terms for having killed their husbands after they’d been found in bed with another woman. ALL are symbols and reflections of the patriarchy, wherever and however it may manifest itself.
Hi Cassie:
I saw your post - and in fact left a comment.
It’s certainly an important issue and one we should talk about and try to help with.
Thanks for doing your post - it was very good indeed.
You might find the info on Joanne’s organization’s site helpful - and I found the photos of women *around the world* demonstrating on this very encouraging.
All of the ethnic cleansing and “honor killing” taking place in Iraq is a direct result of the pre-emptive invasion.
The tragedy that is taking place is the U.S.’s “Sabra and Shatilla”. Just a great deal more death and destruction. Just as the Israeli’s provided an enviroment for ethnic killing to take place in Lebanon, we have done the same in Iraq!
I may have missed it but “honor killings” is a terrible misnomer. Has someone shifted the language on this to something more unfortunately appropriate that certainly leaves the word “honor” out?
Since George Bush has been president what has been the common thread in world news? Death and killing.
Good post Siun.
To whomever knows about the technical things on the website, is there something that can be done about the news feed making Siun’s posts display in about 4 point text? It’s hard to read without a magnifying glass.
Jolly good this bit of news regarding our dear friends and relatives in the UK by way of the Scotsman…
h/t informed comment. Oh, to love Britain again!
dakine01 @ 8
The Bush administration (hello Mr. Wolfowitz) created the enviroment for all of these horrific killings to take place in Iraq! What a sick sick way to access control and power over a region.
The stink of death permeates the Bush regime.
Kathleen - I think we have to be careful about our analysis which is why I did this post. As Yifat from MADRE writes, there is an important connection between “honor killings” and the invasion … but “honor killings” were not unknown in Iraq before that - nor are they unknown in many other countries.
We need to look at what exacerbates the problem as well as protections for problems that come from ancient tribal issues, etc.
It makes my brain hurt that men, even twisted Falwell/Dobson-esque men, would harm a woman who was harmed by a man.
Just fucking insane!
And the smell of death is getting worse in Gaza. The IDF is preparing for a feeding frenzy.
Siun @ 17
Has the tragedy taking place in Iraq created and enviroment where these “honor killings” are on the rise?
I kid you not, if I didn’t have a degree in ‘Religious Studies’ I wouldn’t have known who the Yazidi (Yezidi) were/are either.
I’ll pass along this information to my theological, feminist, & other egroups.
Dakine - that’s a really important point. This is not an Iraq only issue nor is it totally removed from our own culture … look at the reported increases of young women in abusive dating relationships which tend to reflect some serious “honor” issues.
Kathleen @ 5
No.
Thanks Siun. I put the updated links and the petitions on both of my sites.
Hillary Clintons makeover on C-Span/ Monday
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.....iveDays=30
On the Diane Rehm show Monday “Private military contractors in Iraq”
http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/07/05/21.php#13190
Thanks Wordsmith!
Heir of Patriots - we’re not seeing the same problem - could you refresh and check?
Kathleen - has the invasion and occupation made the problem worse in Iraq - absolutely, as Yasif reports in my the material I quoted in the post. But just as turning this case into a cause as CNN’s comment did does not help solve the problem, so only seeing the invasion factors obscures the bigger pictures.
Murder is murder. The whole Middle East is out of control. It was not thus, seven years ago.
Bil @ 11
Not to be snarky, but would “dishonor killings” accomplish the shift?
Cassie - that’s great! thanks!
Islamic Law has been made a tar-baby before.
This incident reminds me of the Saudi Royal family killing of the Princess from 25 years ago that was profiled by Frontline:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/...../princess/
The Saudis put it out that the killing was done according to Islamic Law, but Frontline’s investigation made it clear that the Princess was actually condemned and killed according to the Royal family’s Tribal Law.
Carter blast Blair
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0519.html
Siun @ 22
As I said above, I believe it is a total reflection on the Patriarchy and using power to keep others down, especially and specifically women.
Does anyone want to present a view that President Hillary Clinton will bring peace to the Middle East?
She’s not going to have enough time…
Siun @ 29
The killers are already arrested. Are we petitioning them to not release them?
kirk murphy @ 28
Not for me. I guess that is part of the horror, you read the story and have to gag on what they do, AND what it is called.
radiofreewill - thanks for that link!
That’s a very important “correction” …
horror killings
Oklahoma kiddo @ 33
While no fan of Senator Clinton’s middle east policies I have to say that the tendency of any thread to devolve into Hillary Hatred is a bit abject.
Jane Hamsher @ 39
I think Hilary actually does a lot for women’s and kids’ causes and I think she’d do great with this one.
Jane Hamsher @ 39
I believe this to be a legitimate question. And as to “Hillary hatred” if you are referring to me, then you’re off base.
SnarKassandra @ 38
Cassie, I hate it but that works for me.
many believe this was retribution for her killing
Cassie - do your classmates or friends notice news like this? or discuss your post for example - I’d be interested in your - and their perspective.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 27
I disagree to this extent: I believe these types of killings were happening quite frequently, they just weren’t in our consciousness as they are now because we were not paying any attention to the lands where they occur most prevalently.
Siun @ 44
Yeah. This was on channel one at school and we talked about it in social studies. About what values are to be respected in a different culture and what are universal values that the different cultures should respect.
There is a UN declaration on the rights of children and a different one about women that are completely against this.
The reasons why the facts are screwed up in CNN’s meager coverage of this story are the same reasons that this so-called “honor killing” took place at all.
Political agendas have higher value than the lives of women. The facts as skewed are part of the agenda; the slackery about women’s rights are part of the agenda. The truth and the women in that truth are disposable assets on the altar of the neo-con political agenda.
Not unlike the truth of yellowcake sales and the political if virtual assassination of the NOC Valerie Plame’s career — expendable for political expediency’s sake, another form of “honor killing.”
Women have little value in their world except as vessels to bear future males, handmaidens to their needs like Monica Goodling, Susan Ralston, Pamela Palfrey, and wretchedly vicious water carriers like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Bay Buchanan. Women are merely means to an end.
One thing that is mentioned by the experts about this case is that it is unusual for one of these murders to be committed in broad daylight in public. It appears that is a change …
And some of the articles point to problems growing for women in Iraq during the sanctions - again, as poverty increases and women are forced into more precarious positions, these killing seem to increase.
Kathleen @ 5
Geeeezzzz…..got sidetracked by the CATS. That’s quite the clever name you assigned Herr Wolfowitz; a bit long, but it works for me!
No, he does NOT have to pay taxes on his income from the WB. I read that last week on Reuters. I’m trying to find a link because I hate not having that. I don’t care if G*d brings it to my attention, I want a link.
Ah! Although not the Reuters story, this mentions “the ludicrous World Bank privilege of tax-free status.”
As quoted in the article:
dakine01 @ 45
Actually I am speaking primarily of the 600,000 Iraqi and 4,000 U.S. Soldier deaths.
Siun @ 26
Siun, it’s always the same tiny unreadable text for your posts. The other posts are readable size. I’m talking about the news feed (click the XML link under syndication) in my newsreader not the post in the browser.
Rayne - wow, thanks!
I remember well that it was impossible to get help for Afghani women under the Taliban … until we had a reason to invade and suddenly Bush was very concerned.
Kathleen @ 5
EPU from this morning. Wolfie gets 400k a year TAX-FREE plus 400k severance. Possibly all World Bank US citizens PAY NO TAXES. At least two neo-con Wolfie cronies, Cleveland and Kellems were getting 250k. Riza is at the Foundation For The Future…Money for nothing and Riza for free…
Hey! Firedoglake is a grass-roots organization that supports the development of democracy.
Kathleen @ 15
I would disagree with you about the Bush administration’s culpability with regard to this specific case. The political and religious factors that culminated in this woman’s death were in place in the Middle East long before dreams of “Iraqi liberation” Bush came to power.
Comparisons to similar incidents within the United States are also miss the mark, and they only serve to divert our attention from where it needs to be. This woman was stoned and killed because she was seen walking with another man of another religion. I have not seen any credible evidence to contradict this account. Therefore, it is safe to say, that this woman died as the direct result of religious intolerance within her community. This type of intolerance, although not unique to the Islamic world as can be seen in this case, often finds welcome shelter there.
I would not so casually disregard religion’s role in this. Christians have their own history of oppressing and subjugating women and they have been very successful at justifying their actions through valid interpretations of holy scripture.
Heir - since we aren’t seeing the problem, it’s hard to know what’s causing it. Perhaps you could send me info offline (media dot firedoglake at gmail dot com) and we can take a further look.
Hi everyone…instead of “honor killing”, how about “image killing”?
Changing customs takes time. Female circumcision is a practice that I think is slowly coming to an end. Patriarchical beliefs seems to always make it “Eve’s” fault. Look at the control many in this country want over women’s bodies in the abortion debate. This is a control issue.
HeirofPatriots @ 51
FWIW, on Firefox with OSX, your post appears in a slightly larger font, Siun.
I thought it was a feature for the Lake’s demographics (and hence our visual acuity).
Siun I sent you mail, but to the address you left on my comment screen.
Micheal Scheuer Ex head of OBL CIA unit says Ron Paul right
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20.....ron-paul//
Krispyos - interesting points. There were reports - and I do not have a link for this - of a rape by a Yazidi boy of a Sunni girl shortly before Du’a’s murder … and friends in Iraq report that the Yazidi - who have had difficult relations with surrounding peoples for a very long time (no one else is apparently “pure” enough) are under considerable pressure as what looks like ethnic cleansing is increasing in Kurdistan. It’s a very complex situation - esp to those of us in the West who have little knowledge of the region, various religions and cultures.
Kirk Murphy — It is that same thing about how water bends the light rays. The lake does that to Siun, so maybe she is made of light rays. :)
This is an odd place to post this, but this honor killing problem, like nearly every other major issue facing humanity right now has one prime cause: overpopulation.
Increased poverty has made people more dependent on tribal structures for jobs, housing, and other scarce resources and compelled more women into polygamous, forced, and abusive marriages, where they are at greater risk of “honor killing.”
This kind of thing is going on everywhere on the planet all the time. If there were a lot less people around, there would be more resources to go around and a lot of these issues would ease.
But they won’t. Population continues to increase at breakneck speed. We can (and should) be taking steps to suppress these events, but without effective population control it’s shoveling sh*t against the tide.
Wordsmith @ 49
IIRC from the 2000 IMF/WB protests, both of these international institutions enjoy tax free status in the host nation analagous to that conferred upon the UN in NYC (or Geneva).
PS - Cassie, you clearly know your optics!
IMO, the American variation of “honor killing” tends less to the religious and more toward the racial, in particular women being killed for having been participants in interracial relationships in the South. I have no specific data, just anecdotal memories from having grown up and lived a lot of my life in the South. Thoughts?
Sparhawk @ 63
But that might mean “birth control” ~~~ shudder shudder
dakine01 @ 45
No one would have heard word one of this without cell phone cameras.
Siun @ 52
Yeah, and we can lay some of the blame directly at the feet of the now-deceased Falwell. Thanks to the pressure of the Christian Coalition, Reagan had additional political impetus to support “Afghani freedom fighters” against the Soviets. Of course we now call them the Taliban. Bush, in theory, should have gone in to undo the damage of unintended consequences — but removing the Taliban and empowering women were of little political value to Bush, not as much as using the impetus of bin Laden in Afghanistan as a reason to launch a war in Iraq.
SnarKassandra @ 66
Horrible, isn’t it.
(Cassie - got it and will reply)
Siun @ 55
It may have something to do with heir’s browser’s rendering, as well as your method of drafting your posts, Siun.
I’m using Firefox, which doesn’t have a problem — but I can also see that your post has a lot of [font size=”2″] tags, the kind I might expect from certain word processing packages. Other posts here at FDL don’t have those same tags.
Sparhawk - there is a network of women working on this issue in Iraq. The Organization of Women’s Freedom in Iraq has safe houses for women who are threatened with ‘honor’ killings in fact and an “underground railroad” of sorts.
Siun @ 72
That is really good. Really important. How do women know how to find them? DO they have a hotline or something?
Siun @ 72
Good. I wonder if there’s somewhere I can donate. This issue totally pisses me off, perhaps even more than all the other random violence in Iraq. I mean, for crying out loud, being killed for dating the wrong person?
Sparhawk @ 74
I have not read anything about this young woman being romantically involved with the Sunni man she was supposedly seen with.
Sparhawk @ 74
Worse than Romeo and Juliet, but kinda sorta like West Side Story. (Read one, saw the other on video, had to write about them both.)
Cassie - I’ll ask Joanne to give us some information on that when she is able to add to comments.
And Sparhawk - take a look at the links at the end of the post, each of those organizations I’m sure could use your support.
(Rayne and Heir - I’ll look into it further and see what’s what)
Saudi Arabia is one of the Bush family’s biggest pals. What is their record on honor killings? Or for that matter on human rights in general? And is this information from Saudi Arabia even available, and if so, is the info. reliable?
Sparhawk, I share your concern about the power of human overpopulation to cause social catastrophe.
Unfortunately, the sum total of Iraqis killed or forced to emigrate under our Occupation has brought about net population decline in Iraq.
Sadly, the increased poverty in Occupied Iraq results from early deaths, rather than over-abundant births.
[Oh - one quick clarification. Your handle is but one letter off from the prominent author Starhawk (who lives here in SF).
Just to clarify, the views you’re sharing with us tonight are from you (not from Starhawk) - am I understanding correctly?]
SnarKassandra @ 76
Oh no, Romeo and Juliet was about right. I recommend you find a DVD of the Franco Zeferelli version from 1968 and you’ll see that there was a threat of violence to those who dallied outside their family’s dictates. Young women locked up permanently in nunneries, men killed in duels, all because they went against their father’s plans for genetic dispersion. (That’s what I think both tribal tradition and organized religion really do, support paternal control of genetic selection.)
Rayne says -
an inadequate dowry can still kill you, you can be assaulted as a means of family debt reduction, bartered to keep male relatives out of jail, and still be sold in to sexual slavery almost anywhere on the planet
I know folks are uncomfortable with the term but -
Yoko Ono said it succinctly 40 years ago
ACLU Sues School District Over BiblesIt’s ACLU’s 5th Time Suing District In
13 Years
POSTED: 1:21 pm EDT May 18, 2007
*NEW ORLEANS — *Should religious groups have access to public school
children?
The American Civil Liberties Union says no, and it has filed a lawsuit
against the Tangipahoa Public School District for allowing the distribution
of Bibles to students, WDSU-TV in New Orleans reported.
It is the fifth lawsuit in 13 years that the ACLU has filed against the
school system.
kirk murphy @ 79
Yes. my handle is a character from a book series by David Eddings.
I’m just a random guy passing through here from the east coast, not particularly famous or interesting :) I read FDL quite often, though I don’t post much (I post a lot more on Kos).
I like FDL because I think the signal to noise ratio is a little better here than on Kos (probably due to Kos’s sheer size). Commentary here is very insightful, particularly on things like the Libby trial, US attorneys, Plamegate, etc. Best coverage on the web.
And yes, views here are my own. (Although, maybe his too. You’d have to ask him).
Comparisons to Romeo and Juliet do not seem appropriate either. Does anyone have a link discussing a possible romantic back-story (maybe I missed it)? I can understand wanting to imagine such a connection, given the sheer irrationality of what occurred. If there is no credible evidence that she did anything more than appear with this man in public than I think we should refrain from introducing fiction into the conversation as it just muddies the waters.
Welcome Sparhawk - hope you’ll comment more often!
Siun @ 85
Why thank you Siun. I appreciate that.
Siun @ 85
Welcome welcome.
Dang, a dollar late. I left a comment at the end of the last thread and don’t know how to bring it up.
Krispyos - the reports I’ve seen describe the events in various ways - Amnesty’s report is as follows:
Loo Hoo. @ 88
can you copy and paste?
This is why people read FDL and others like it. The press cannot be trusted. They have been
intermediaries without knowledge, without expertise. They don’t ASK. They don’t check it out. And this is exactly why we need guys.
Welcome Sparhawk - I’m glad you commented today, and hope we see and read more of you here.
Hi Loo Hoo!
OKK -
about 2 years ago, Chimpigula was prepared to sign a UN Convention on the abolition of human trafficking - specifically women and children . . .until he saw both Kuwait and The Kingdom listed as two of the biggest offenders . . .how very Kristian of him
(silently sliding into the soothing waters of the Lake) G’evening, Siun. Another painful post - painful to write - painful to read - that needed to be written. Thank you.
Welcome Suzanne!
Hope the showing went well and the sale follows soon..
Suzanne @ 95
hiya suzanne!
Hi Suzanne-what, no impossibly acrobatic dive?
Oh well. Nice to see you.
kirk murphy @ 96
Why no swan dive?
Hi Suzanne …
I really appreciate everyone’s willingness