Did the man whose personal fixation on the Clenis is so all-consuming as to border on fetishism really just utter these words on Friday (see "week in review" video):
And the sex lives of presidential candidates…did Mike Wallace really ask Mitt Romney if he had relations with his wife before marriage? And did Mitt Romney really have to answer that question?
I completely understand why nobody wants to thinks about Republicans fucking, but that's probably not why Tweety believes the subject ought to be off limits.
He then asks why antiwar types keep making the antiwar position so hard to take. I guess the beltway insiders who have spent the last six years talking about the emperor's spectacular codpiece don't like to have it pointed out that 65% of the country has been able to figure out for quite some time that this war was a spectactularly boneheaded move. With numbers like that it should come as no surprise that a few meshuggenah came to that conclusion well ahead of them.
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Jane!
he couldn’t keep his Mitts off her
I need some brain bleach – ewww, Republican sex. I thought my divorce insured I would never have to deal with that subject again.
punaise @ 2
OK – off to Austin with you.
Maybe it’s me, but Mitt sure came across as teh gay in the last debate.
I’m just saying…
Where is everybody?
Mutant Poodle @ 3
…in an elaborate, gilded palanquin. one that is, dare I say, Austin-tatious.
Of course he never had sex with his wife before they were married. he never had sex with her after either. That’s why they don’t believe in evolution.
But does he do God’s work?
;>)
Suzanne @ 3
Now I understand your vigorous Lake entrances.
Scrubbing.
Georgesimian @ 7
he was against creation before he was pro-creation
All the reports of Laura at the Mayflower Hotel have put a damper on Tweety’s favorite subject (as long as it’s a Democrat).
The anti-war types being hard to take was a riff on Rosey and someone else I’m not recalling at this time.
But Tweety is both too obtuse and too self-centered to ever dream that he is logically incoherent. After all, he’s one of the KEWL KIDZ!
I believe the reason Romney was asked was to lay the groundwork to be able to ask Democratic candidates similar questions.
Oh good freaking god.
Do these people DO anything outside the little habitrail they live and work in? EVER?
It’s really pretty pathetic that our national discourse isn’t any different than what you’d hear in the hallways of any middle school or on some idiotic MTV crap. It’s all the cool kids v. the rest of the world. Yawn,boring,and STFU already Chris.
punaise @ 7
We will revel in yout Texasty.
Georgesimian @ 8
WOW! That means five more immaculate inceptions. Or were they all in-vitro?
Georgesimian @ 8
Uh, then where did those fine young soldiers, er, I mean Mormons come from?
SteveAudio @ 4
when it comes to Repubs on TV, I follow the “don’t watch, don’t tell” principle
HA!
punaise @ 19
Well said!
Suzanne @ 3
Hmmm? There IS a story there I wager. But I shant be so gauche as to ask what it is…
Hi Jane!
Suzanne @ 14
Well, you’re probably right. But it would be only fair to ask the abstinence-only hypocrites if they kept their chastity belts locked during their courtships…
However, I really don’t want to know anything about Rudy.
The Democratic Party, the party to which I belong, really needs to nominate someone for president who is firmly committed to pulling out of Iraq and is determined not to start any more unprovoked altercations.
what’s a “meshuggenah”?
Mutant Poodle @ 15
“texas tea. black gold.”
(name the substance and the show.)
Matthews *hates* Cheenee; blames everything on him. Man-crush on GWB still in place?
Check.
punaise @ 27
Oh come on! Beverly Hillbillies, with title song by Homer & Jethro
punaise @ 27
Ah c’mon. Oil and Beverly Hillbilies Jed Clampett…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
i’d prefer not to have to wait until 2009. (and i’m not too confident of our choices)
congress – are you listening?
I’m new here, and i’m sorry to to seem to rebuke, but ’spectacularly boneheaded” is way, way, way, way too kind a description of the murderously cavalier actions, attitudes, and behaviors of the fascist phux who have–with malice aforethought–corrupted, undermined, and/or poisoned ALL they have touched over the course of th4 last 6 anda half years…
understatement may be a kind of camoflage.
.
Yeah, whenever I ponder becoming anti-war, I always remember that Rosie O’Donnell is anti-war — and then I regain my pro-war sanity.
wtf?
Tweety’s reached his sell-by date. No more Jack Welch to protect him and Punkinhead.
…the Dems want to pull out and the repubs want to go in…hmmmm
selise @ 26
Ditto!!! Jane!!!
punaise @ 27
Oil. Beverly Hillbillies.
Come on, you can do better than that.
OK, so it was a softball trivia question….
spiderpaws @ 34
and no one has a happy ending
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
i spent 30 years in okieland, in norman, at ou, between 1994 and 2000.
seriously…
IANJ (I am not Jewish) but believe meshuggenah=crazy
I’m an anti-war type. What does “type” in this context connote?
spiderpaws @ 34
I heard someone say:
When you want to move forward, you pick D;
when you want to move backward, pick R.
Makes sense to me.
punaise @ 27
Beverly Hillbillies, Jethro.
Oil.
Suzanne @ 38
Did they use the antiwar position?
dakine01 @ 40
Thanx Bra!!! ;)
selise @ 26
a crazy person
selise @ 31
I was taking a sort of round about way of suggesting that a certain Demo front runner not be nominated. ;0)
punaise @ 27
oil. Beverly Hillbillies. no peeking.
Suzanne @ 38
Yet the GOP search away for one, forever turning the pages.
twolf1 @ 44
They’re preaching obstinance.
;>)
TiredFed @ 48
Well, we’ve established that many of us DFH’s are at least in our 40’s (and perhaps beyond).
Mutant Poodle @ 4
I have been saving a few of punaise’s gems. If Austin ever beckons, I have the treasure trove at work.
…the Dems want to pull out and the repubs want to go in…hmmmm
and no one has a happy ending
Did they use the antiwar position?
The R’s advocate only the use of the missionary position.
wgg: tokin librul @ 39
Do you consider yourself an Oklahoman?
Mutant Poodle @ 51
well beyond here.
TiredFed @ 48
“Kin folks said Jed move away from thar
Said Californy is the place ya oughtta be
so he loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly
Hills that is, Swimming pools. Movie Stars”
PS TiredFed – Did today’s LA Times article give you some new Monica Questions?
Hmm. Interesting. I actually did catch that bit by Tweety on Hardball, but didn’t do the double-take due to distractions under foot.
But now that you mention it, Matthews has been OBSESSED with the Clenis’ schwing, as ThinkProgress noted.
Observe that ThinkProgress outlines Matthews’ comments on the Clenis’ sex life only in 2007; can you imagine how bad it was during Clinton’s administration? No wonder I blocked out so much of politics during the Clinton years…
selise @ 26
I’m so glad you asked. Hope it’s not a sheep.
TiredFed @ 55
Older yet here, and damned proud of it!
Will someone please point out to Tweety that The View’s ratings have increased markedly since Rosie joined, and there aren’t enough lesbiantic, pair-bonded New Yorker moms just like herself to account for it? She speaks to women in the great middle of the country that the BeltwayBoys like to think they represent. And Rosie’s views, if not entirely representative of these viewers’, are certainly not heinous enough to make them change the channel.
Suzanne @ 14
Excellent point
Suzanne @ 53
Must make it difficult for the many self-loathing gay disciples.
TiredFed @ 46
ahh. jane’s way of saying “dirty fucking hippie” – but with class.
Mutant Poodle @ 51
I hit the double nickel in 20 days.
Scarecrow @ 59
It’s Yiddish for crazy
dakine01 @ 65
I will be returning from Alaska on that momentous day.
Mutant Poodle @ 57
whoa. just got plugged in. been clearing brush all day (and that’s hard work as you know). wassup with the LA Times?
Mutant Poodle @ 67
It’s not all that momentous.
I share the b’day with the Bargoyle, Joan Rivers, Boz Scaggs, and Sonia Braga amongst others.
Who you calling meshuggenah? Don’t make me get my shotgun!
dakine01 @ 65
that’ll be freedom day for this Tired Fed!
I wonder if Tweety’s criticism of Mike Wallace’s question of Romney was a way of getting at Chris Wallace, whose debate performance got (incomprehensibly) good reviews.
Also, did anyone else notice that Willard managed to first say that no, he couldn’t be asked the question — and then answer the question? A perfect, split-second encapsulation of wanting to give every answer to every question, which is Willard’s primary character flaw.
Any one want to bet the first Democratic Presidential candidate questioned about abstinence before marriage is HRC?
The question to Romney is so they can now go after HRC and claim to be doing so to Rethugs also.
Because we all know this obsession is about the Clenis, not Romney.
kirk murphy @ 10
teeheehee
Boz Scaggs! awesome!
TiredFed @ 68
Times Linky here. It’s more on Iglesias – he had a lunch with a GOP lawyer in NM who pressured him on voting rights; Monica’s name came up…
I once read that more people are alive today than have ever died. Also, I find it amazing that the entire continent of South America is East of New York. Go figure. It’s all about perception baby. 2 nickles is an achievement!
dakine01 @ 65
What, I thought we’re all teeny-boppers and clad in PJ’s, isn’t that the demographics!!! Gotta find a new site… ooh,ooh, My Space…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
no, brother…i’ a new mexican…through and through…i got stings and spines to prove it…
:wink:
The noun is meshugaas “craziness” and a crazy girl is a “meshuggeneh” while a crazy boy is a “meshuggener.”
Etymology: Yiddish “meshuge” from Hebrew mesuggah “maddened, crazed” participle of suggah “to be mad, crazy.”
http://www.yourdictionary.com/…..rd=meshuga
TiredFed @ 75
Um, Sonia Braga anybody? Helloooo!
…”laying the groundwork” is probably the only way Tweety CAN do it…
Mutant Poodle @ 81
Today must be “bean” day.
TiredFed @ 75
“Silk Degrees” — one of the best albums ever!
kirk murphy @ 10
EwwEwwEww
i may not be the oldest person in the room, but i’ve been around (and around the block) for a while…
i got to name ‘dirt.’
./
Over there:
Jane (nyc) @ 84
must be showing my age again. hehe
FYI
Tweety is on NBC talking about Iraq with
Bob Woodward Katy Kay Andrea Mitchell David Brock
CTuttle @ 35
a crazy
Mutant Poodle @ 76
sweet. goin to read. film at 11 (er, maybe tomorrow morning at 11).
TiredFed @ 88
boz comes out of the steve miller band, n’est pas?
Jane (nyc) @ 84
I’ve owned the Record, Cassette, and CD of ‘Silk Degrees’, every song is awesome!!!
“I completely understand why nobody wants to thinks about Republicans fucking”
It is unpleasant.
boz comes out of the steve miller band, n’est pas?
and I LUVS ME some Dynaflow
darkblack @ 50
LOL.
…certainly we all know “meshuggenah” means crazy by now, right?
Mutant Poodle @ 81
Those two kinda make it easier to deal with knowing the first two are also on the same day.
saori…din’t mean to shout
Well, if Mike Wallace is going to ask this question of all the nominees, will Rudy get extra time? He has three pre-marital eras to discuss, and we’ll want to know whether any of the sex was simply pre- or extra-marital.
Methinks this was a get-Rudy setup. “Mr America’s Mayor, your chief rival for the GOP Prez nomination, ex-Governor Romney, has said he did not have pre-marital sex. Before your first marriage, to your second cousin, did you boink her?”
etc, etc, etc….
Paging watertiger…
TeddySanFran @ 87
No doubt, purchased at an obliging local costume store prior to the ‘caper’ – After which, they put on their real Iraqi police and military uniforms and went back to work.
lolo @ 89
not for a million bazillion dollars would I watch that but do please pass any juicy tidbits along!
TeddySanFran @ 87
Why is it that, in Iraq, killers are always described as being “dressed as” Iraqi police or miltary.
Has it never occurred to anyone that at least some of those instances involved people who are not in costume?
dakine01 @ 56
You know, when Hillbillies aired, ordinary Americans couldn’t afford to live in Beverly Hills.
Ordinary people could and did live (and buy homes) ten miles west – by the sea in Santa Monica.
Now ordinary Americans can’t afford to buy (safe) housing within most of Southern California.
Our communities didn’t have to become poker chips for Big Finance.
The Fed chose to make Americans’ homes into “investments” in the global market for debt.
And the deflating housing bubble drove insanely wasteful resource choices now beyond our means.
As the people lured into $400,000 “starter homes” on postage-stamp lots in kid-killing air a thirty mile commute from LA could tell you.
Scarecrow @ 59
I thought maybe you were The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh
Heads up, gang. I’ll be live on the air from eleven to midnight on Seattle’s KIRO-am from 11 to midnight eastern with David Goodstein. It’s a token liberal show on a conservative talk station, so at least the call-ins should be interesting.
Well, then the story would read like this:
Can’t have that kind of truth-telling during a supplemental funding standoff, can we?
TRex @ 105
I will be out, but you’ll have to save some of the best questions for us…
TRex @ 105
Hopefully they stream? I mean, you know…never mind.
spiderpaws @ 97
Yeah but singing “Meshuggenah” just doesn’t come out as well as singing
“Cra-zy, crazy for being so lonely…”
With humble apologies to Willie and Patsy both.
OK – off to dinner. Go get ‘em, therapod.
damn, darkblack, are we thinking alike or what?
Maybe you should go lie down – it might pass, for you.
TRex @ 105
TRex, Right on!!! How about some Boz Scaggs for Late Nite??? Pretty please with a cherry on top!!!
tokin librul @ 39
Hahaha!
I have lots of family there,and my mom graduated from there. To her and my dad, it was high adventure, coming from tiny OK towns as they did. To me, it didn’t seem all that appealing. Call me crazy.
TRex @ 106
Good gig, TRex, KIRO are good people – as is their Jurassic guest!
Do you have an agent?
You will need one.
Yea!
____________________
Late edit: oops – scrambled my Seattle stations. The folks I bonded with (and ther nice big satellite truck) in Seattle weren’t KIRO.
My bad (but good on their big truck and the cover it provided)
TeddySanFran @ 102
talking about the clenis what else?
gosh, Jane, I hope you dont mind.
From LA Times article:
Absentee landlord’
Unbeknownst to Iglesias, a few months before that lunch, Rogers and another Republican attorney from New Mexico, Mickey Barnett, had complained about Iglesias at the Justice Department in Washington. The session was arranged with the assistance of the department’s then-White House liaison, Monica M. Goodling, and an aide to White House political strategist Karl Rove, according to e-mails released recently by congressional investigators.
This meeting between Mickey Barnett and Monica Goodling (and perhaps a Mr. Patrick Rogers) is the subject of question #28 (questions are available at TiredFed). Please feel free to offer follow-up questions.
CTuttle @ 78
how old is double nickel?
CTuttle @ 112
With all due respect, every bar band in the world played “Lido Shuffle” back in ‘77. It’s become one of those songs I never need to ehar again. Evah!
kirk murphy @ 104
Hear, hear. Much the same in New Jersey.
TeddySanFran @ 102
have you heard the brazilian joke yet?
greenwarrior @ 118
Now you just made me feel REAL old with that question. But before I answer, think about it for a little bit.
TiredFed @ 116
I think one day may not be enough time for Ms. Goodling to spill all…
TRex @ 106
please tell me someone is gonna save it!
11 eastern is 8 pacific
TiredFed @ 124
TiredFed, you MUST be tired. 11 Eastern time. Which puts it at 8 TRex time.
dakine01 @ 121
10-4 good buddy.
jayt @ 111
This ‘adjective trouble’ may yet be licked if we continue to comb carefully through their statements, jayt.
;>)
I wonder if Mitt’s wife wears crotchless pantaloons.
dakine01 @ 125
haha. I’m too tired to read TRex far enough to see he said ET. so sad. but then, I’ll be in bed long before 11 EDT anyways.
dakine01 @ 122
We do have one bona fide 15 year old — and that lowers the average age to 47.8 or so.
Gosh, being past the doublenickel, it seems an easy question.
punaise @ 27
Beverly, please.
darkblack @ 127
oh man, that was painful. I ain’t messin’ with you any more! I give, I give!
Swimmin’ pools, movie stars…
TeddySanFran @ 125
Teddy are you doing late nite? Is TRex going to liveblog or what?
Here is the blog of the fellow who’s hosting our TRex tonite.
Warning — spew alert. Hideous photo at top.
Saturday nite late nite is Pachacutec territory.
Here’s the call-in number.
TeddySanFran @ 135
How kind of you to forewarn me of that horrid vision, Teddy.
…Couch… Salts…
;>)
inmymind’seye @ 129
I don’t think so, but the PBS series on the Mormons was extremely enlightening. Frightening, actually, but very informative. Some things that are in writing and done in experience cannot be undone. Just sayin’
dakine01 @ 122
i have been thinking about it. i figure you’re older than 10. oops, it took thinking “out loud” to get it. 55. i knew i should be able to get it. thanks for the encouragement. and soon-to-be congratulations.
btw, i saw on another thread about a potential texas meeting for fdlers. i’d love to come, but july 8 doesn’t work for me and then i’ll be out of town for 3 weeks. could it be june or august? i’m in austin.
“Yes” to both. Let’s now ask “Who deceed that the sex lives of presidents are ‘fair game’ for the media?” Huh?
wigwam @ 143: I believe that was Ken Starr.
Dakine01 –
If I counted correctly in my margarita-enhanced state, I think that’s a momentous birthday for me as well…the big 4-0. (do I need to decode that one, Greenwarrior?) (snark)
A lift of the tumbler to all, especially all those who got the Beverly Hillbilly reference!
Ann Romney looks rather excited in this photo.
Wigwam @ 143
‘Who is Henry Hyde‘…Oddly enough, a Republican adulterer. I would have never seen that coming.
;>)
inmymind’seye @ 129
I wish I had not clicked through to that site.
I think I’m still the oldest at 73. Do you have to discuss Rudy’s sex life a dinner time?
Lea-no uh @ 145
the easiest way to verify is google your b’day and if the names I gave earlier as being on the same day show up, then you’re correct and glad to have ya jooin me. Or it’s 3 weeks from yesterday is the other method.
TeddySanFran @ 146
That photo is disturbing. He’s grinning like she’s doing something we can’t see.
Oh that’s right. I keep thinking it’s Sunday.
TeddySanFran @ 146
She popped the $5 balloon at the carny, and by golly she’s taking that supersized Ken doll home.
;>)
dakine01 @ 150
Did I mention the margarit-enhanced state?
greenwarrior @ 142
I’m sure we’ll have some more later on. I just proposed the idea a month or so ago and Gnome de Plume ran with it. May was out due to Mother’s day and I believe June was out due to graduations so July was first available.
carolyn urban @ 148
inmymind’seye @ 129
I wonder if Mitt’s wife wears crotchless pantaloons.
***
I wish I had not clicked through to that site.
***
then you may not want to click on these candles over at Watertiger’s place.
kristine @ 144
Can we take back that impeachment?
TRex @ 139
Cool, 6PM Hawaiian time, can you give the linky for the live stream? Mahalo, oh munificent therapod!!!
Lea-no uh @ 154
Well for me the date is June 8. I assume if you’re counting in a ‘Rita enhanced state that your Four-oh is anywhere from the 6th to the 9th.
I remember my Four-oh. I also remember the surprise party my sister had for me. And it was a REAL surprise since it was on the second of May!
… paddling slowly in my Birchbark canoe, from the Great
WhiteMulti- cultural North …Evenin’ Folks !
Chris Matthews is lecherous in a lechy sorta way.
He obsessed about Fitz, our hero … picturing Fitz as an Irish Virgin as I recall …
Hey Suz, can I borrow some brain bleach?
Scarecrow @ 131
Hmmmm! Assuming there are three members of the household, let ‘x’ denote the average of the other two.
Then 47.8 = (2x 15)/3
So x = (3(47.8)-15)/2
So, by my calculator, x = 64.2.
Did I make a mistake?
darkblack @ 147
Visual cortex bleach, stat!
Wigwam @ 161
Ya lost me at X
Quick question on the Goodling hearing.
Is this going to be that same milquetoast group that bored us to tears in Comey Round 1?
I want the A-Team to talk to miss Goodhead.
kristine @ 144
He decided that such was fair game for the courts. But, for example, back in Kennedy’s day, the media practiced a certain “discretion” about presidents’ sex lives.
Wigwam @ 161
i think scarecrow might have been referring to the average age of fire pups.
I will be calling 877-710-5476 for Trex. What is a good question that I can ask? other than the one that I just asked. Help me here.
mhpcr @ 141
CROTCH – WHAT????? From a website which says how to better spank your loving wife??? Good illustration of what happens to sex thanks to the church. It gets perverted. Am still shocked about that perversion, though.
Balrog @ 164
Unfortunately, it’s the HJC not SJC. Unless they can bring in Wax OR cede their time to Wexler of FL, Davis of AL, Wasserman-Schultz or the other few coherent questioners.
dakine01 @ 159
Hey, I was right! I have a feeling that 2 of my fellow teachers are planning something for the big day, especially since one of them is mere child at 23 and finds it amusing that I’m turning 40. (I changed infant to child for SnarKassandra) Hopefully, they’ll get the right day. Happy Birthday early!
Suzanne @ 73
Hilary has to say Yes! and I enjoyed it! in response to the question. Turn the issue around and make the Republicans look like fuddy duddys make the Reporter asking the question look like a Grand Inquisitor of Spain. Make Hilary look human and enjoying herself/CONFIDENT!
Wigwam @ 161
Math fine; assumptions about “other two” not. I meant everyone at FDL, but I wasn’t being serious. Haven’t been for days.
Balrog @ 164
OMG, Conyers & Co.? The Little Rascals were more organized than those guys.
Oh please, Conyers … get tutored by Leahy on how to run a hearing … you’re blowing it for our side …
Lea-no uh @ 170
Gracias. Four-oh is one of those that seems to get the attention of certain people and allow them to get their fears out at the expense of the b’day person. Just remind them that the day will come for them as well. And that they do not know when you will get your revenge but get it you shall. Unless they’re particularly dense, that usually gets their attention and reminds them that they have a stake in not going too overboard.
Petrocelli @ 160
Evening, Petro!!! Long time no see…
It may be time to start writing Chris Matthews name with an (R) next to it.
Chris Matthews (R)
Things Come Undone @ 171
I hope if the Dems are asked this question, they look at the MSM Tool and say, “America is witnessing the gravest assault on the Constitution and you’re asking about that?”
Scarecrow @ 172
Seems like 15 is an outlier, much like I suspect Cassie is an outlier among persons her age. She seems wise far beyond her years.
Balrog @ 164
amen
CTuttle @ 175
Hey buddy, I was asking about you last night. I’ve been working around the clock, trying to complete my book and meet you in Paradise for those Beers. *g*
Unfortunately, it’s the HJC not SJC. Unless they can bring in Wax OR cede their time
Oh, I think that they can, but I don’t think they will, unfortunately. When have you ever heard of a congresscritter, of any stripe, giving up on-camera face time?
Resurrection Man musk. Crotchless, not panties, but pantaloons. Freaking weird stuff.
ccmask @ 176
Chris Matthews (P)
Elliott @ 183
As in Punk?
Wigwam @ 165
The fact that his office was leaking like a sieve to the s
tenographersmedia about it didn’t help.Gross. Matthew Dowd is on the bbc. “I fell in love with George Bush”!
TRex @ 139
Can’t listen on the link, T. What is the subject tonight, or does it evolve?
smapdi @ 186
Are they all coming out tonight?
I think its a going out party.
Lea-no uh @ 145
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LEA!
I think its a going out party.
dayam R’s do everything bass ackwards.
ccmask @ 189
That’s life *g*
Thank you, Loo Hoo! (in 20 days)
chady @ 12
Sicko I am at times, I wanna know who Laure is DOIN at The Mayflower.
I suspect, Milkin AND Coulter.
OK, folks, looseheadprop challenged us to Prime the Pump. In a recent set of comments, I tried to follow up with some ideas on how to implement looseheadprop’s suggestions. Selise suggested using “wikispaces” for our workspace on developing articles of impeachment, so I have taken that suggestion and have started an impeachment wikispace for this purpose. Anyone can drop in and view what we’ve developed so far.
But more importantly, come help! The workspace also has an associated discussion page, and I believe I’ve set it up so that anyone can leave a message. If you’d like to help prime the pump, and I hope you will, let me know by leaving a message there. Selise has joined already, and this workspace is only a few hours old.
Even more importantly, I’d like to invite looseheadprop, Christy, Mary4, and others to become co-editors of this workspace. In fact, I hope one of them will take on the job of being editor in chief, because they are more qualified than I am. I’m just trying to help looseheadprop implement the “Prime the pump” vision.
Let me know what you think. This will be an ongoing project until Gonzo, Cheney and the Chimpfuhrer are out of office and are no longer a threat to our Constitutional democracy.
If I’m not here, I might be over there. First to go up were the Articles of Impeachment against VP Cheney, as proposed by Rep. Kucinich. They’re up now.
BTW, I think wikispaces can be linked to blogs. I don’t know what that means, but I would of course love to see it linked to FDL.
Petrocelli @ 192
Don’t start.
Suzanne, I threatened to call the CA-EPA on punaise last night for bringing that noxious stuff into the lake. Now you, a former officer of the law.(stern look):-)
ccmask @ 196
You’re right, we need more Beers first !
Seems like 15 is an outlier, much like I suspect Cassie is an outlier among persons her age. She seems wise far beyond her years.
She is because her circumstances make her that age way. We respect that her abuse is making her much more that her age might warrant. I hope that we know that it is just a front behind which are the real feelings of a child. I hope that others who are more infomed that I might understand this is the front of a child, and behind all this understanding and amazing snark is a baby who do needs something else. We as a community need to say better and offer better to her and her caretaker.
Petrocelli @ 180
I’ve been sicker than a dog, still ailing, but improving, and have only lurked a bit on the Lake!!! I’ll keep those brews on ice for ya!!! We have a nice Micro here in Hilo!!! *g* We can checkout Madame Pele’s flow after the tour!!!
Felix Moronia @ 197
moi? innocent look? I’m just working on my dive for Late Nite (kicking dirt). What did I do (more innocent looks)?
Definitey need more beers. Although I’m on my second Cosmo right now.
LS @ 77
Both wrong. Or actually…all three wrong.
Balrog @ 164
This is it…
http://judiciary.house.gov/Com…..rship.aspx
Nice work Bob.
Bob Schacht @ 195
As your northern neighbor who loves Americans and the essence of America, might I offer a suggestion?
Have two $$$ clocks, one with how much money each American owes under Bush’s fiscal mismanagement VS how much the $$$ would be if you have kept going with Clinton/Gore fiscal management.
Hehe. Thanks for a cool post, Jane. I do have one possibly (ir)relevant question: does anyone who is not a KO convert (and therefore just happens to be tuned in to Tweety’s network) still watch Tweety? In which case, is he in any way relevant to anything? This falls vaguely under the rubric of the tree that falls in a forest and nobody hears it parable…
Meanwhile, off topic but still gruesome: yet another grim story of life in shrub’s America. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/…..dex.html.. Texas state was ordered to free 226 children detained in its prisons after it was determined that they were locked up improperly (or just forgotten about in some cases).. some “in retaliation for filing grievances.” OK, this is probably the fault of Governor Shrub, not President Shrub, but it still follows the grotesque meme of our times.. government as impunitive abuser.
TiredFed @ 46
SNL “Coffee Klutch” skit. ‘We’ll tawk!’
Mike Myers as Linda Richmond and another person I forget, but, it was like buttah!!! They claimed Bahbahrah made them both a little meshuggenah . . . loved that skit. I get all verklempt just thinking about it!
Things Come Undone @ 171
Or just turn it around on the moderator and tell the audience that she thinks it’s an insulting question that is totally out of line.
Petro@206, That’s not fair, that’s comparing Apples and Oranges, Good Gov. vs. Bad Gov.!!! I simply detest the national debt clock!!!
larue @ 194
I suspect, Milkin AND Coulter.
Geez, that should read LAURA, not Laure . . LAURA! Oy!
CTuttle @ 200
Much looking forward to it … hopefully sooner than later … hope you’re right as rain in a jif.
Balrog @ 164
Maybe the losers in the Conyers Committee wil finally realize that they let the big Comey revelation walk right out their door and that they better start doing their homework. How hard could it be asking Monica some REAL QUESTIONS when you’ve opened the field up by giving her immunity?
darkblack @ 50
When ever people start extolling the virtues of abstinence for folks over 18 I find it’s time to pull out. Of the conversation.
CTuttle @ 210
You’re right CTuttle, The Decider would anyways spin it to emphasize the diff. as being “the cost of freedom”.
I would like Leahy or someone else from the SJC to walk over during Monica’s HJC testimony and lay a subpoena on her for her to come visit them too.
Suzanne I guess it’s good to know just what kind of crazy we are dealing with on the other side but that stuff, the pantaloons and caring xtian disipline is beyond craaazy!!! No?
cinnamonape @ 213
If only we can send a telepathic message to TiredFed to fax a list of questions to Conyers and his fellow Dem. congresscritters …
Have two $$$ clocks, one with how much money each American owes under Bush’s fiscal mismanagement VS how much the $$$ would be if you have kept going with Clinton/Gore fiscal management.
Great question. We know, but it’s not been proved.
And the sex lives of presidential candidates…did Mike Wallace really ask Mitt Romney if he had relations with his wife before marriage? And did Mitt Romney really have to answer that question?
And did Matthews have to make career dogging Clinton about Monica? Oy vey.
Suzanne @ 216
Can’t they do a substitution from the bench … like in basketball … after opening statements, call Whitehouse to ask all the questions from the Dem. side? Conyers can still be in the limelight by smacking the Reps every time they go off topic.
BOB SCHACHT @ 195 – there is a writer by the name of Elizabeth de la Vega that has authored a book about indicting Bush (Cheney too I think). At any rate, the actual indictment she created might be helpful to you and is at this link.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=143205
Suzanne I guess it’s good to know just what kind of crazy we are dealing with on the other side but that stuff, the pantaloons and caring xtian disipline is beyond craaazy!!! No?
Felix, what I find beyond crazy is their do as I say, not as I do bedroom politics.
Blub @ 207
Blub, Tweety comes just before KO. He is really unpredictable in my opinion. Sometimes he’s for the home team. He’s really come out against attaching Iran, for months now. More and more often I agree with him/he agrees with me.
Dumb question.. when ordinary people like Goodling get subpoenaed and/or otherwise subjected to legal repercussions in these high-profile situations, who pays their legal bills? her former employer? the rethug legal defense fund? herself?
Again. I just want to make sure the A-Team is questioning this woman.
At 32, she is not experienced being grilled by seasoned questioners.
She will spill the legumes without ever knowing it if faced by Waxman, Leahy, or Perry Mason. I really pray that Dems know how important this is.
Hey, guess what?
No baby yet.
agreed.
Suzanne @ 216
sweet
Loo Hoo. @ 224
To clarify, that is my point. If most of the people who watch him are, in fact, KO watchers (since, as you point out, KO comes on next), then does it matter if he takes an assinine position, as he’s done here? I mean, I presume most of his audience would just dismiss him out of hand.
Be nice if Bush lent Conyers his backpack & earphones set and Marcy got to feed him the questions.
Blub @ 225
Dumb question.. when ordinary people like Goodling get subpoenaed and/or otherwise subjected to legal repercussions in these high-profile situations, who pays their legal bills? her former employer? the rethug legal defense fund? herself?
Not dumb – lotta people wondering about that one.
I’m guessing RNC.
jayt @ 231
Not dumb – lotta people wondering about that one.
I’m guessing RNC.
Its a Fundie Fund.
jayt @ 231
Or the advance on her kiss’n’tell book deal
We’re live on KIRO.
Balrog @ 226
She’s had a lot of time to practice being grilled by Waxman or Leahy, despite her religious convictions, which I suspect may be overwhelmed by her political convictions.
Pitocin’s the only thing that convinced the little Lea-no uh’s to come out. It’s really not that bad. It just got going what was ready to go with a little persuasion.
Mutant Poodle @ 81
Uh, yeah, Boz Scaggs. Four albums with Stevie Miller and Snortin Norton Buffalo. Awesome!!
Boz’ first solo project, AWESOME!!
Alas, the SF Disco Queen in him was channelled by Sylvester and his music went to shit for some 10 or 15 years.
Sad.
a theropod with a scottish surname?
New Thread
Jane (nyc) @ 84
EWWWWW! Sleazy smarmy polyester at its worst.
He was just jealous of Sylvester’s Two Tons Of Fun . . ;-)
I’d MUCH rather listen to the Brother’s Gibb doing Nights On Broadway, anyday. (grin)
TRex @ 234
Thanx, T, Bookmarked!!!
cinnamonape @ 213
Does her immunity agreement only go for the house judiciary committee or all of Congress?
She did get a high powered attorney.
TeddySanFran @ 125
When did Seattle become Eastern?
N Lido Shuffle is from the ‘Lost Years’ of Boz. Gag me with a shovel.
Balrog @ 226
I meant SPT. But you’ll notice I didn’t commit before now.
Suzanne @ 216
(BIGASSGRIN)
bmaz @ 222
I have not read Mz. De Vega’s book, but it’s been excerpted, and she’s been interviewed a LOT in the past year, and man I love that woman for what she’s done. Bless her.
I don’t read books much anymore. Maybe I should start with this one.
Loo Hoo. @ 241
Monica’s grant of immunity (limited) is good only for the House Judiciary Committee. However, none of her HJC testimony could be used as evidence against her in court. evidence against Rove is another story.
Lea-no uh @ 235
no amount of practice will prepare her for this hearing, I can assure you.
Bimbos, they’re all Bimbos & Chris Matthews is the biggest Bimbo of all.
TRex @ 106
What is it on the radio dial?
Petrocelli @ 218
more questions? ask and you shall receive. I cant vouch for the questioners or if they will ask them. draft has been sent to HJC already.
sorry gang. had to run out to collect my kid from one of those sweet 16 parties where they get all dressed up for nuthin. went back thru the thread backwards. that was interesting!
lolo @ 136
11:00 Eastern, or 11:00 pacific, if it’s coming from Seattle?
for those of you who are interested, there is a draft list of questions that has already been sent to the House Judiciary Committee at my place TiredFed
Any new questions can be left here, at Marcy’s TNH (TNH Monica Thread) or at my place. gracias
Balrog @ 164
I’m not too hopeful as to the House hearings with Goodling. I want to see the Senate questions her, (Leahy and Whitehouse).
punaise @ 2
:o)
Absolutely love your site, Jane and all. Looking fwd to tomorrow’s Salon double header w/ Laura Flanders (Girl Power Day on FDL!). TY for the warm reception in last week’s introductory post.
Excited to be joining you again tomorrow night.
Cheers!
xargaw @ 252
It was 8pm Pacific. But my MAC couldn’t find the listen link. Missed it.
One hour, so, it’s over at 9pm, Left Coast. T-Rex was usin Gowja Time . . . .
How should Hillary answer the Question???
If she does it right, it could be a “slam dunk.”
She should say first off, that she has only been married once, and that her husband is a loveable handful. First off, he is Arkansas Country — and he grew up when the American Idol was Elvis, and he wanted to be like Elvis, but for some reason he didn’t make it as a Saxphonist. So then he went to the Jesuits at Georgetown, and they left their imprint. Finally, he went to Oxford as a bearded Rhodes Scholar — and somehow before he showed up at Yale and she met him — he managed to bring all those pieces together in a really loveable and crazy mix. So she just followed her heart and moved to Arkansas and tried to make it all work out as a lifetime rich romance.
Sex Life — well that’s inside my Zone of Privacy, and no adult American should have to share that. PERIOD!!!
Then she should say something expansive about how people calculate morality — maybe it is as much about whether you try to get health care for uninsured children, or attend to the environment or provide safe neighborhoods?
I hope she answers something like this — and that someone asks the question.
TiredFed @ 253
Thanks buddy, I’m so inspired by you, Marcy and the rest that I’m asking my acquaintances if they know Preet Bahara (Chuck Schumer’s ass’t) and get these lists to him. Keep it up.
Go, Jane! Tweety has been infuriating for the most part for 10 years. At least he thought the war was stupid.
But boy is that dude one effed-up guy when it comes to sex.
I still say he’s pissed at the Clinton’s for getting away with something he’d love to get away with himself. There’s no other rational excuse.
The guy really hates the Clinton’s, even though they had a lot to do with making him rich.
bmaz @ 222
Thanks for the link. I’d read some of this before. She bundles everything– Not only does she bundle everything into one count, but she aims it at not just one person, but the whole cast:
That’s a bit unwieldy, but the way things are going, the Bush clusterfuck is all interconnected anyway. Only now, I think its more important to isolate on Bush, Cheney and Gonzo.
Maybe I’ll set up a special page in the workspace for her approach.
Thanks,
Bob in HI
jayt @ 237
Loch Ness is nearby, no?
Bob in HI
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
I have a dear friend, a very talented pianist and conductor, who grew up in Austin, Texas, and has since lived and worked all over the world. San Francisco, Germany, Boston, New York, New Orleans.
Soon after I met him, when he said he came from Austin, I asked him if he thought of himself as a Texan. He said, no, that he was a recovering Texan.
Sara @ 257, that answer would be worth a lot of votes. Bill (unexpectedly for me) did a great job shutting down Chris Wallace.
Chris Matthews is trying to innoculate other multi-married candidates from having to answer that question. But Romney, himself begged that very question vis a vis the Wallace interview. What I find so ironic is that Matthews was a one note singer on the ” Clinton had sex with that woman” bandwagon. I think he got off when Clinton was impeached.
Jane I agree. I have brought Matthews addiction to bringing up whether Bill Clinton can behave up at FDL often. It does seem Matthews is always focused on this or to whether Hillary is “warm and fuzzy” I just wish he would focus on the issues when it comes to the Clintons. Matthews seems foolish when he does this
Although I will continue to repeat that Matthews is one of the only mainstreamers who is clearly pissed off that he was duped into the media’s dangerous “groupthink” in the run-up to the invasion. At the Libby trial I was able to speak with Matthews for a few minutes and I mentioned that he should have been listening to the Diane Rehm show before the invasion, instead of to his program and other mainstream outlets.
On the Rehm show he could have heard, Scott Ritter, Zbigniew Brezinski, CIA analyst, General Zinni and many more question the validity of the intelligence and warn against the wisdom of a pre-emptive invasion.
Matthews seems to have learned from the complacency of the media in the run-up to the invasion. For the last four years he hammers the “cakewalk in Iraq” zealots when they repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran, and he is one of the only mainstreamers to do this.