As Richard says in the video up top, there's plenty of people who belong in prison, but anyone who's paying attention knows our current penal and legal system is real fucked up.
While well connected, high profile crooks are rarely convicted or pursued (and even when they are, they get standing ovations in ballrooms filled with blue suits), the poor get few if any opportunities to make they way back into society, even when they take responsibility for their actions and work to reform their lives. Back in that earlier post, I told you of one such person I originally knew when he was a homeless 15 year old in a Houston youth shelter, back when I was a counselor there. I wrote:
Still, through his experiences, I've gained a window into how difficult we make it to get access to those resources, how much our prison systems are rigged for harsh punishment over any chance at rehabilitation. This is especially true after release: there are very few, meagerly funded transitional programs swamped by waiting lists serving ex-offenders. No one gets elected by helping them and few people make donations (ex-offenders aren't very cuddly looking). Fundamentalist churches do some good, but they force you to become a wingnut to earn the right to eat. Will my ex-offender make it eventually? I don't know, but as long as he's making the real effort and keeping himself clean, I'll help.
Many of you were generous enough to contact me to see how you might be able to help him get back on track upon release. Some other people have been asking me for an update on his progress. The news on that front is good, folks, but he still needs some support. Particularly, he needs help acquiring affordable transportation to get him to his new job. I'll let him tell you all about it in his own words, right after the jump (I've X'd out some things to protect his privacy, but the rest is unedited):
Let me personally introduce myself as the one who was discussed in previous posts in this forum. My name is Dan XXXXXXX, 33 yrs old now after spending 3 years in the penal system here in Texas. Since my release in February 22, 2007 I have went to great lengths to readjust back into society without any help from the same government that enslaved me.
I have acquired all on my own accord, a two bedroom apartment and secured employment. I began working through a temp service and once they saw that I was willing to work hard, they put my on what is called "weekly tickets" full-time at the San Jacinto Port in Channelview, Texas, at a company called XXXXXXXXX, who is a branch of XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. After 3 mos. of working there through the temp agency and proving my ability as a good worker there I was offered a full-time position as a company employee. Here is my problem now…while working through the temp agency transportation to and from the jobsite was provided, but now that I have broken ties with the temp agency and am hired on direct with the company I have to continue to find a way to Channelview, TX from where my apartment is here in Pasadena, TX. 10-15 miles.
I have done well to arrange rides with co-workers thus far, but I foresee possible future problems. I make decent money now as a company employee, but I have no large lump sum to offer a dealership for a down payment on my own vehicle. And since I have no established credit, a car loan from an institution seems unobtainable at this point. So basically I've done well to do everything on my own, but I have reached a point where I simply need my own vehicle to not lose everything I've accomplished so far. I made a conscious choice to reform my life to the best of my ability and feel I have accomplished much but find myself in need of personal transportation. I do not have bad credit, only no credit established. So I would hate to lose everything now do to the fact I can't get to a good job which I fought hard for. I want to serve as proof that there is life after incarceration if you have the motivation and the drive to make it happen.
Any idea or channels that I may not be aware of would be of great assistance to me.
-Dan XXXXXX
If anyone has any ideas how he can get a cheap used car on some helpful credit or payment terms, that would be great. Or, alternately, maybe someone knows about other potential community resources that might help. Anyone who has ideas can contact me at pachacutec AT firedoglake DOT com.
Thanks, folks. While the right wing thinks cheap forgiveness from Jesus on the dashboard erases all accountability, some other people actually try to take responsibility for their actions, reform and attempt to give back to the community. Personally, I believe in encouraging those people, not by offering cheap forgiveness based on their mere words, but rather based on providing incremental opportunity earned through sustained positive action.
In other words, I think our former FDL guest John Dean is pretty clearly back in good social graces, but the unrepentant Gordon Liddy. . . not so much.
As for Dan, if you can offer him ideas or some assistance that amounts to a handup, not a handout, then that'd be much appreciated. If he's not too beat after work, he may even drop by the comment thread tonight.



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ZeD☼
Hi Pach, I’ll go get the pups!
Hi Pach!!
Evenin’ Pach!
OT – listening to TRex right now on KIRO!
LoudounLib @ 4
linky?
TRex! and then click on “listen live”
since burnspbesq complained about my earlier dive with Pretty low degree of difficulty. Is that all you got?, I’m now climbing up to the tallest platform, raising arms in the air, its a Triple Lundy
Evening Pach. So nice to hear your friend is doing well. Fingers and toes crossed the fine Lakers round here have some suggestions that work.
Pachacutec!!!
Greetings.
howdy howdy howdy howdy
lots of new posts this week
Evening, Pups.
I posted this on the last thread, but it’s more germane for this one…. yet another grim story of crime ‘n punishment in shrub’s America http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/…..index.html
Texas state was ordered to free 226 children detained in its prisons after it was determined that they were locked up improperly (or just forgotten about in some cases).. some “in retaliation for filing grievances.” OK, this is probably the fault of Governor Shrub, not President Shrub, but it still follows the grotesque meme of our times.. government as impunitive abuser of the poor and underprivileged
Greeetings and felicitations.
LoudounLib @ 7
Does anybody have any idea why the “listen live” button at the KIRO Web site does not seem to be working for me? I have my speakers on and my volume turned up…Internet Explorer on a Dell PC
Don’t know if this has been posted.
Don’t know how many people were touched by her compassion and her humor.
“jc” of the Deaniacs passed away on Mother’s Day and the Dean Community found out about it a few hours ago. Some of you out there have bought her bumper stickers and T shirts since 2003. She was a bright light among us.
I remember how she relentlessly urged bloggers to “Shop NOLA” after Katrina, by highlighting shops that were trying to rebuild.
We’re sort of having an on line wake at HowardEmpoweredPeople
Respects will be passed on to her family.
Suzanne @ 8
Evenin’ Pach.
If I could spend a day with anyone besides my kids, it would be Rodney Dangerfield.
SnarKassandra @ 10
Evening Cassie. Looks like you have been busy over at your blog lately. Good post on the problem of honor killings. The really tragic part of this is that they are increasing in predominately secular countries (like Iraq) where they were previously rare. This is yet another indirect impact of our policies and actions in the Middle East.
Pach, it’s wonderful news that your acquaintance has found a place to live and a job, especially in this economy and under difficult circumstances. I am glad your faith in him has been rewarded. I don’t have much to offer except my puzzlement that one wouldn’t simply move closer to work and use public transportation. Living in a city has skewed my understanding of spread-out American life, but don’t most leases allow one to terminate if work is found elsewhere?
Perhaps the place of employment doesn’t offer residential living, in which case I hope Dan finds help getting a car. I just can’t imagine living where one needed a car, and I’m sorry our culture has come to that. A car is a tremendous drain on the wallet and also offers a lot more chances to get into trouble, in my own experience.
Anyway, best of luck to Dan and thanks for sharing his success with us.
neurophius, it took a minute or so for it to work for me — coming in fine here
Having been homeless myself Pachacutec, I can empathize. But what I know is specific to the services here in Minnesota. I’m not familiar with anywhere else. Things are a little better here I suspect. Pawlenty hasn’t quite been able to fully destroy the social services here just yet.
Hope that’s not too off topic.
Probably should try and get a place closer to the job site, for now.
In Texas, ‘Tote the Note’ used car dealers are all over the place, also know as ‘Down Cars’. The down payment is what the dealer has in it, the rest is gravy (for the dealer). Usually junkers, beware.
Hope this helps ; )
heya gang. I’m actually not home. We took a weekend house guest from L.A. out to see a show and it’s intermission. I’ll catch up with questions later!
The anthropologists are coming! The antropologists are coming! Hide all the modern gizmos!
neurophius @ 14
WHo are we listening to?
Cassie, TRex is on the radio at KIRO – click on the link I posted earlier
AZ Matt @ 23
Yeah, because anthropologists only post messages using obsidian blades and carrier pigeons.
Cozumel @ 21
Forgot to add, no credit needed for a ‘Down Car’ usually
AZ Matt @ 23
Picking on the anthros again I see. Some of are not fixated on “unchanging, pristine cultures.” Some of us even think that concept is a steaming pile of horseshit. Personally I am mostly interested in the processes of change and how peoples adapt to new conditions.
It’s pretty hard to find a job that is close to one’s work for middle class folk and doubly so for us poorer folk. Add to it that most affordable housing is in the inner city, NOT where jobs are. and add that the suburbs will discriminate against anyone that isn’t as white bread as they are and the obstacles get very hard to surmount.
LooHoo, 30 minutes until 11:00 CST. No BalrogBaby in sight.
Going to bed. Maybe Sunday morning talking heads will inspire Ma.
Ta ta.
Trex, you sound SOOOOO cute online!
Lea-no uh @ 31
doesn’t he, though! ;-)
noen @ 29
Yet another example of Pach’s larger point about how the system actively promotes the maintenance of a permanent underclass.
What it TRex talking about? (Some of us can’t get the stream)
DrDick @ 28
Now, now. Limited minds, outmoded ideas. Be tolerant.
Balrog @ 30
Like I said – Sunday!
Teddy, I’m bad at live-blogging, but a few minutes ago he was talking about FDL, Jane, Christy, EW, and all the rest of the excellent bloggers. Then they took a phone call from a lady in NJ who is a big admirer of FDL and TRex in particular. Also touched on the “lovely ladies of hate” — Malkkkin, Coulter, et al
EvilDrPuma @ 35
Yeah, but you do not work with Native Americans. Those of us who do are constantly barraged with variations on that meme by colleagues who think all Indians are totally assimilated and just like white folks (and therefor uninteresting).
they’re in commercials at the moment
DrDick @ 38
Relax, I agree. I was just being snarky about it.
I know we’re talking Texas here, with its heat and humidity and such, but perhaps a bicycle might be an option. Lots of variables, like weather, traffic, available roads, job requirements (suit & tie? jeans and t-shirt?), distance, Dan’s physical condition, etc., but it might be something for to consider. If nothing else, it could be a temporary solution to allow him to save up a downpayment over the summer and purchase a car in a couple months.
back on the air, talking about TRex’s groupies ;-)
Houston, which is where Dan lives, (Pasadena and Channelview being separately incorporated parts of the same vast sprawling city) does not have public transportation between non-downtown or white collar type business places. He has to have a car. You guys who live in SF or other “walking” cities are spoiled.
I will try to find a link to show what Dan and many others like him deal with. Pasadena is no bed of roses, btw. Locals call it Stinkadena. Channelview is worse. They are part of the huge petrochemical industrial area that gave the Bush and Cheney families their wealth and sensitivity.
Pach, I haven’t read the comments yet, so sorry if this has been suggested already.
I think it would be best if Dan got the cheapest possible vehicle right now using his own name. If he were to get a $2000.00 vehicle and pay it off promptly, he will establish credit in his own name. The only way to survive, sad to say, is to have credit in your own name. The sooner he jumps in, the sooner is is on track to compete.
Peterr @ 41
Not in Houston. This is urban sprawl gone cancerous. It would be worth your life to try to ride a bike in Houston (not to mention a half day commute).
Why we need tough prisons.
[Mod Note; Link deleted by Mod.]
DrDick @ 45
Houston is the poster child for lack of city planning, the worst
I wonder if the host got my email for TRex about Melanie Morgan.
This is where Dan works and why he needs a car.
Balrog @ 30
Foiled again.
As a former resident of Texas, I assure you, that state was designed for cars, period. Very few sidewalks, not pedestrian friendly at all. Remember, there used to be a lot of oil in Texas, and that’s what the powers-that-be encouraged. Cars.
There was a letter to the editor of a Texas paper on the topic of light rail that said “public transportation is for people on welfare.” It’s crazy, but that’s what many people there think.
Teddy, I’ll let you know — they said a few minutes ago if people sent emails, they would be read on the air
PLovering @ 46
Here’s a good rule of thumb for you, friend. When the first words at your link are “The black animals…,” you’re likely to find yourself just a little less than welcome around here.
Trex talking about “liberal bias” in media (snark)
Trex talking about lack of “leftie” classical composers to talk about on his radio show.
EvilDrPuma @ 53
Might I add, that tough prisons do nothing to abate this kind of behavior. Indeed they are an integral part of the system which brutalizes and produces people who will do this kind of thing. In general terms, “tough prisons” are simply factories for producing tougher criminals who are more violent.
Teddy and anyone else not able to hear TRex on the link above: here is another link I found, and the “listen live” button on this site works for me (couldn’t hear anything on the other link):
http://710kiro.com/
I think that some of the charitable organizations might be an option, but there may need to be some juggling. There are charities that receive cars as donations, but they can’t use them; they turn around and auction them for the cash. Would be nice to identify one that received a working car, that would turn the car over if they received cash donations equal to the car…
In the mean time, I’d contact St. Vincent de Paul of Galveston-Houston, see if they have any suggestions. The two St. Vinnie’s to which my folks donate their time are generally very helpful and try to meet shortcomings for financially challenged folks, without any religious requirements.
eeuw…listener just called Michelle Malkin “charming”
Pach
If he will swear to all that is good and holy to remain faithful to burn the highest percentage of biodiesel he can find in his area. If he will further swear on the hand of the lady of the lake to ask himself every morning:
“What would Monty Python do”?
I have a 1980 240 Mercedes Benz with a rebuilt 1977 hot-rod 300 D under the hood, (only 125k on the rebuild,285k on the 240 body), (86 mighty German Horsepowers).
This is an alternate fuel vechicle!!
His name is Calvinstein (Calvin for short).
He burns B-100 if he can get it. B-20 at gas stations all over Texas. (24mpg) This car is going to do 500K. Make me an offer. I’ll sell it no down, first month’s payment drives it off my driveway, you hold the title. If he doesn’t pay me you give me the title back.
Help, help we’re being repressed. Do you percieve the violence inherent in the system?
I would just give him the car, I’ve put $10k in rebuilding it, but I did that once in a very similar situation and the guy abandoned the car in his apt. parking lot because it needed a clutch. He must make a commitment here too!
The “War” on Terror and the “War” on drugs are political bushit, Nixon, Raygunsza and Daddy.
We’ve been had – by stupid, clever like foxes, power hungry, greedy bastards… Helping your man would give me a glow. Like I get to be a financial insurgent gorilla. I kinda like that idea.
I came in here looking for a watery tart with a fabled weapon. Arthur
DrDick @ 56
That too…but I didn’t figure that an obvious racist thug deserved that much energy expenditure.
Lea-no uh @ 59
Duck!
moderator just put caller in place…”malking defends McCarthyism…”
yeah, this caller just got dumped!
Pach, thanks so much for the post. Congratulations to Dan. What he has done so far is a great accomplishment.
I don’t know if any of these are helpful or even realistic.
1. Until Dan figures out a better long term solution, pay co-workers for rides. First things first, you have to keep this job. If he makes it worth their while, co-workers may look forward to giving Dan the ride.
2. I invite Dan to mention the problem to his Parole Officer. He probably knows much better than I that his PO probably can’t do anything, but they might know of some resources.
I would ask the P.O. about credit issuers (that are trustworthy) and who will insure you. My guess is that the insurance companies will also make Dan pay for having spent time in prison.
Dan doesn’t need to have the money to apply for credit. He can ask, what’s the interest rate? Are there any “pre-payment penalties?” (If he pays the loan off early, there should be no penalty.) They may try to sell him “insurance” on the loan. I would be very careful about that. He can likewise shop around for insurance, but it’s tougher, until he knows make and model. It’s probably best to “ball park” the price by calling some insurers and just saying for example, 1995 four door Honda Civic, what’s your rate for me on that. Than at least he has some idea. Dan has to understand the deductible and all the other coverages. The higher the deductible, the lower the rate, but the car won’t get repaired until he comes up with the deductible.
If he can get a co-signer on the loan, that’s huge, but I bet at this point, he cannot find one. If he can, he might want to ask if that would help with the insurance. Finding a co-signer is really, really tough.
The three months Dan has lived in his apartment will really help. They will look very hard at whether your rent payments arrive on time and don’t bounce. If you’re late with the rent check, your landlord may report that to the credit bureaus. That’s the way everyone else finds out about it.
Every day Dan works, every additional month he pays his rent on time is a huge step forward and credit issuers and others notice it.
4. There will be a ton of people out there who want to “sell” you a junker. Cheap can be expensive.
5. If Dan doesn’t know what Bluebook is, here’s the link You can’t know the value of a used car without this.
It’s also got sections on insurance and financing, but I can speak to their reliability.
I also want something certified about the vehicle’s accident history before buying used.
6. Brakes, tires, transmission, are some of the big ticket items to fix. I’m sure he already knows that gas, oil, and parking add up.
7. As much as Dan doesn’t want to hear it, having six months salary saved is a good rule. If for any reason, his employment ends, he needs to pay his rent, utilities, and food until he can find other employment.
8. Motorcycle/scooter are dangerous, terrible in the rain, and really easy to steal. It might, however, be as much as he can afford.
The other thing is that education costs money too. Dan probably wants to think about what kind of education he needs/wants to further increase his earning ability. The great thing about schooling is that their might be some scholarships available.
neurophius @ 57
It doesn’t work.
Sorry, margarita influence affecting live-blog, but moderator and Trex just shut down caller.
shutting down my live-blog from here, working tomorrow. Thanks for your help, Lea-no uh!
LoudounLib @ 68
No problem…as a hag of long standing, I am soooo in love with Trex right now!
lolo @ 66
it does here
Whew, that was great!
AZ Matt @ 23
The day I find a 6,000 year old anthropologist will be the day I start believing in evolution. /s
Muslim taxi-drivers in Kansas City…Trex laughing at Malkin’s position…she would hang herself with her own rope.
Jena, LA is home for this story.
TRex @ 71
Hiya TRex!!!! I heard you on the radio.
TRex @ 71
Are you currently picking bits of rancid Malkinite from between your teeth? You need to be careful about that as they can cause food poisoning.
Torch and Pitchfork @ 60
Sounds like a Cars for Causes advertisement!
TRex @ 71
Nice work, from what I read here.
I wonder if anyone got a tape of that. I think the sound of me laughing while Malkin squawks may be my elemental defining wav file for posterity.
AZ Matt@74
All of the studies show that ethnic minorities receive harsher treatment at every stage of the process in dealings with law enforcement (this information courtesy of the DoJ).
Perhaps TRex would share with us a brief synopsis of the discussion on the radio show. All I got to hear was the last couple of minutes, in which TRex and the host were
trashingdiscussing Michelle MalKKKin.Hello pups! Just a quick drive-by. I wanna go upstairs and hit all the links Pach provided.
I did a little work at the San Jacinto Port. Enron repo work. They bought 3 complete power stations to resell and the shit hit the fan for them. The last time I pulled out of there I had 266 tires on the ground and was fourty feet wide going through Houston. That wasn’t hard enough, so they made us do it in the dark.
Pach, my company has a yard down there off of old hwy 90. Maybe someone has an old clunker they would sell on an easy-bleed payment plan.
A person would have to be nuts to try to ride a bicycle in Houston. We had motorcycle cops swarming my load and cars still tried to pass us while a motorcycle cop is riding beside them, sirens blaring AND stomping on their doors.
Unbelieavable.
My mom is white but she got a 10 yr sentence for selling drugs. I think it made it worse that she was selling from the house where I was 11 yrs old.
DrDick @ 80
… even those that make it to the NBA …
Oh, gosh, that was a long discussion. I’m not sure if I can provide a synopsis.
neurophius @ 14
Most likely they exceeded their bandwidth. Having a theropod on a show will do that. Exceed a LOT of limits, I would imagine. (grin)
neurophius @ 81
Please, I couldn’t get it either.
SnarKassandra @ 83
For Texas, that really is not that bad. Texas has led the nation in draconian drug laws since the late 60s-early 70s. I am sure that the presence of minor children in the house contributed to a longer sentence, but minorities still get longer sentences, especially in Texas and elsewhere in the South.
Hey everyone!(splash).
I think it was inaccessible to Mac users (or to this one). When I closed the non-working link, a little error message flashed about not having the MIME plugin. Never flashed for long enough to read it, but I think that’s what it said.
TRex, did Goldstein read my question about Melanie Morgan?
Evening RonD. Water is fine tonight, even if there was one minor troll sighting.
SnarKassandra @ 83
Well, that doesn’t help. However, if there is one thing that goes almost as badly for the defendant as being black or Latino in the American justice system, it’s being poor. Not saying your mother shouldn’t be in jail, because I don’t know every detail; but the War on Drugs is class warfare in this country.
Pach, for your friend Dan, the best advice has already been given = forget the car for awhile and pay his fellow employees for the rides. With gasoline at $3 gallon (saw $2.99 on the way home from HEB tonight), he can’t afford it. Also, to register a car in one’s name in Texas (and prob in all states), one has to show proof of insurance (a layout of at least $50 for the first month’s payment). He could count on about $150 in maintenance per month on an older car, plus $28 to $30 for 10 gallons of gasoline probably twice a week.
The other piece of advice was to move closer to the job. That is sound economic reasoning – something we are all lacking in no matter what our status is. I add this because he probably will take umbrage at these comments, feeling that others who are more fortunate can afford to be so blunt.
But I speak from some position of experience (not with economic deprivation, but from a four year plus effort on a community transportation committee and later a full fledged regional transporation board that studied financing by both the local government and individual of public transportation}. The hidden costs of driving private autos outweigh what we spend on public transportation – or at least we don’t recognize the costs – investment in the car, gasoline, maintenance, roads, traffic control – are paid at different times. Ride the bus, using a weekly pass or coins in the slot, and your transportation costs are up front and visible.
But most of all, congratulations to Dan for the excellent progress he has made in an uphill battle to reintegrate into free society.
We all need to encourage him and praise him for this effort.
TeddySanFran @ 90
I could hear it on Safari on the mac.
Very generous Torch and Pitchfork. I’m not taking a position on the suitability for Dan. FWIW, Blue Book doesn’t go back to 1980, but trying to ball park the value, it’s around $2,500. If Dan’s interested, the insurance company in Houston will have a better appraisal than me.
Motorcycles aren’t *that* bad in the rain if you have decent gear. If he can’t depend on co-workers for rides all the time maybe he could arrange to be covered on rainy days. Safety depends a lot on training, gear and mindset. However, although they are cheaper than cars and generally get good gas mileage, banks regard them as recreational vehicles and won’t give you a good interest rate on them. Won’t help with your “image” either DAMHIK.
RonD @ 89
splash splash splast
want a water gun?
Take some breaths of clean, lake air first, TRex. All that smoke and cauldron gas that is emitted by Malkin is toxic.
RonD @ 89
Hi!
Well, we started off on Melanie Morgan getting kicked off PBS and then went to a caller, Mary in Jersey who was very, very sweet. I gave props to Jane and Christy and the crew, talked about how hard we work to make sure our readers get a quality product, and uh…
Cassie, help me out, here.
EvilDrPuma @ 92
Absolutely. Middle class or wealthy people get a slap on the wrist for possession, while poor people do hard time. The penalties for crack cocaine are also much more severe than for powder cocaine.
Marilyn In Texas @ 93
Great comment.
I would just add one thing. Moving hurts Dan wrt the credit bureaus. They do not like it when someone changes their address. I’m not saying Dan should stay or go, it’s just one thing that has to be factored into the equation. Also, if he does move, he might want to rethink the two-bedroom part. Again, if he has a wife and a family, that may not be possible.
SnK, back in the day, a very famous Harvard psychologist named Timothy Leary got 20 years for possession of weed in Texas. IIRC, he went on the run instead, and ultimately wound up with a lighter sentence-but even then, Texas was, as Dr Dick says, the poster-child for draconian drug laws.
Softail @ 96
Apologies.
TRex @ 100
Then I left the room and I came back when the caller was saying good things about Malkin. And at the very end they played a clip about the taxi drivers and you laughed a lot.
I notice the KIRO Web site has podcasts of various segments, including the David Goldstein show for May 12 and 13. TRex, do you know whether podcasts of tonight’s show will be available later?
AZ Matt @ 23
I miss him. :) :(
Let me email Dave and find out what the story is on documenting it.
Newtie assails “radical secularists” in his address at LibertyU commencement.
I think he’s running. Jerry Jr told reporters his dad was “very excited when he heard that Newt was even considering running for president.” Nothing like a televangelist’s endorsement from Teh Beyond.
also:
Dignity and seriousness, like telling your wife-in-the-hospital-with-cancer that she’s being divorced, Newtie? That kind of dignity and seriousness? Or the kind of dignity and seriousness that lets you schtupp your secretary on your Congressional desk, while still married and leading the impeachment of the President of the United States?
OT, if you’re a fan of Pink Floyd and Roger Waters is coming close to your town, DO NOT miss it. Just got home-an unbelievable show.
I think the moderator (don’t want to call him dj) did a great job of indicating his beliefs of the political orientation of the callers and Malkin and letting Trex comment on said. I stand by my statement of loving Trex.
TeddySanFran @ 109
What can I say? Run, Newtie, run! The snark possibilities overwhelm.
EvilDrPuma @ 92
My life is better with my mom in jail.
But …. we were middle class and had a house and everything before she started using drugs. We were poor when she got arrested but I don’t know if poor is the same as low class.
hiya softail!
Let Newt run. We can compare him wife for wife with Rudy for Worst Republican contender.
From NYT’s:
LINK
Okay, gang. Thanks for listening, those of you who could get it. I’ll see about getting hold of a podcast later.
That was fun, but it wore me out. Time for a book and a kitty and bed.
Good night!
Softail @ 96
Cash is cash and my guess is that Dan will look hard at the motorcycle option. Any help you can provide Dan with training for example. Do you know where he could find training to learn how to safely drive a motor cycle?
SnarKassandra @ 113
Cassie, you have all the class you will ever need and then some. The system dumps on the poor.
Suzanne @ 115
I agree. Let Newt run so we can remind him why he’s no longer Speaker of the House…
TRex @ 117
Good night kitty and TRex. I only have 7 more minutes myself.
DrDick @ 119
Amen to that.
Calvin is offended someone thinks he costs $150 a month. But he’s thrilled some nice man thinks he’s worth $2500, so am I.
I do a $40 dollar oil change every 5000 miles, real oil. Last thing that broke was a rear axle cost me $185 to fix. That was last Aug.
With bio-diesel being such a fun backyard project. This ski season I burne the fryer fat from the ski resort where I was working
Cal might be worth $3000 Would have to do good insurance as part of the deal. We could get him in first month for under $500.
Arthur
I’m proud of you Pach and big lizard too.
DrDick @ 119
Cassie, I agree. You have all the class you need. Don’t worry about where you are in the system. Just hold your head high and keep doing what you’re doing. I’ve been reading your posts (in both places) and just hope that my students (6th grade) have your self-awareness some day. You’re awesome!
TRex, if I can recommend a book, it would be my current read-”The Great Unraveling” by Paul Krugman.
EvilDrPuma @ 122
Thank you.
Lea-no uh @ 124
Actually, I hope the same about some of my college students.
SnK-Let me underline the statement of our esteemed Dr.s.
DrDick @ 127
All I am doing is just being me.
TeddySanFran @ 114
Hi TSF, See you’ve gone uptown to the front page ;-)
SnarKassandra @ 126
No thanks needed. That’s just the simple truth.
SnarKassandra @ 129
Which is why you’re awesome!
SnarKassandra @ 129
And that is more than enough. You are an exceptional young woman and give hope to all of us for the future.
SnarKassandra @ 129
And you do it beautifully, S-K… *g*
SnarKassandra said: “All I am doing is just being me.”
Don’t ever let anyone try to make you be someone else.
Honey, I’m home!
TeddySanFran @ 109
I have this to say wrt Newtie. He’s a fat, smug, insufferably arrogant asshole. And those are his GOOD qualities.
Given the choice between him and Rudy, I’d take the…..uh…….seasick crocodile…..
We bought a cheap used car from a branch college teacher. He said lots of his friends were trying to sell old cars very cheaply to students so they could get to school. We weren’t students, but we were able to buy a car for $500 a few years ago, and it was a good little car.
It didn’t last forever, though.
Welcome home, Pach. How was the show?
John Casper @ 118
Arlo Guthrie, “The Motorcycle Song.”
http://www.last.fm/music/Arlo Guthrie/_/The Motorcycle Song (LP Version)
Shoot, Pach, I wish I had read your first post about this guy when he was looking for work. Our yard is a little closer to Pasedena than San Jacinto port. No techie jobs available at my company but probably good paying gruntwork.
Oilfield–in laws and outlaws.
I know in CA, at least, you can get a car if you have no credit. (My son did.) It won’t be as good a car, and your interest rate will be higher, but it can be done. My son got a pretty good car (7 years old) — it had a few problems the first year — rather minor — even he could fix most all of them. And the payments were only about $200 a month.
oddmommy @ 137
Yes, but he is the gift which keeps on giving to progressives everywhere. He is the naked face of the Repug party and no amount of lipstick will dress up that pig.
DrDick @ 143
I didn’t actually need the mental image of Newt Gingrich in drag.
I see some really good suggestions here in the comments. Thanks so much, everyone.
Yes, but he is the gift which keeps on giving to progressives everywhere. He is the naked face of the Repug party and no amount of lipstick will dress up that pig.
applying liberal amounts of brain bleach – ewww double ewww that is not a pretty mental picture
What EDP #144 said. I am scarred by the visual.
Suzanne @ 139
It was very funny. It was a drag troupe doing a mini-play version of the old Facts of Life TV show. I never watched the show as a kid, but apparently a lot in the audience did, and they ate it up. Very funny, bawdy, rollicking, over the top burlesque type performance.
My lady had cancer the same time Newt’s wife did…nuff said.
Pelosi for Pres 2007
44 is such a nice number.
Arthur
Wouldn’t Hillary be a great Sec of State??
Pachacutec @ 145
Thanks for sharing the success story. How and what was the show?
I would like to see the Newt get in the race and be his vicious self, bloody up Ghouliani or whoever else is destined to be the nominee, maybe force him to move to the right in order to hold onto wingnut support, then see the Newt fall flat on his face in the primaries, his legacy to his party a bruised and battered Repug nominee other than himself.
John Casper @ 118
The Motorcycle Safety Foundation has a directory of training programs here http://nm.msf-usa.org/msf/ride…..x?state=TX and also produces some good books. Books are not the same as real training but gives you tips of avoiding common problems. Also the MSF books give tips on proper riding gear and there’s lots of reasonably priced stuff around. The American Motorcyle Association http://www.ama-cycle.org/index.asp is also a good resource and they have an MC classified section. Motorcycle Consumer News publishes a used bike value guide twice a year that’s helpful for evaluating used bikes.
Yup, neuro — I too am hoping for a bloody repeal of the GOP’s Eleventh Commandment. Surely they won’t bring Nancy to every debate this season, just to be sure the white men don’t speak ill of each other!
Shell @ 142
The ‘Down Cars’ here in Texas are usually set up with weekly payments. Miss a payment and they repo it and pronto. Back in the day, I had some good (Honda) and some bad luck with them
Gingrich charged with 84 ethics violations. He managed to fellate his way out of 83 but they charged him $300,000 for his oral services.
That really sucks.
TeddySanFran @ 153
Nancy is welcome to attend all the “debates” as far as I am concerned. Let her be a constant reminder that “I knew Ronald Reagan. I was married to Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a husband of mine. And [senator/governor/mayor/whatever], you are no Ronald Reagan–none of you are.”
neurophius @ 156
Actually, neither was Reagan.
DrDick @ 143
But this is what is so horrifying……that that is the face of the repub party, and STILL people will vote for it. STILL there is almost one third of the population that think Bush is doing a good job! STILL a serial killer level psycho like Rudy is a frontrunner for a presidential candidate.
What is wrong, with SO MANY people???
Calvin like to think he’s an “up-car”.
As a chef I hire nice young folk like Dan and Cassy all the time. High turnover in the biz, you know. Human’s have a remarkable capacity for greatness and an equal or opposite ability to perform like turdblossom or Malkin.
I for one am so sick of the continuing canonization of Ronald Reagan that I lack the proper adjectives to describe it beyond this: It is to retch.
DrDick said, “Actually, neither was Reagan.”
How true. But a vast swath of the American electorate believes in the myth.
EvilDrPuma @ 26
I use drums. Helps work out my tensions, too.
Bob in HI
RonD @ 160
Agreed. He was an incompetent, war mongering imperialist who aided and abetted genocide. And those were his successes.
My network went poof for a while. I was going to post this just before it went
Any idea or channels that I may not be aware of would be of great assistance to me.
-Dan XXXXXX
Here in Minnesota there is a program called “Bridge” that helps people out. They’ll help you get furniture and household needs, I’m not sure about cars and I’ve no idea at all if they are in Texas at all.
The Salvation Army is another source.
That’s about all the advice I have for now.
neurophius @ 156
Neurophius, think you’re mixing up your Nancys here.
I notice, though, that the Widow Reagan now forgoes her usual AIDS-Blood-Red getups for Winter White.
Run, Newtie, Run!
Chumba
listen!
TeddySanFran @ 166
The Ice Queen?
TeddySanFran @ 166
Designer Klan robes.
DrDick @ 163
But….he WAS pretty hot, back in his young Hollywood days….
(heh heh. Just checkin’ out how the other half lives…. : ) )
Evening dear friends.
Dr Dick, I challenge any reasonable person to read the report of Lawrence Walsh, the Iran-Contra independent counsel (and Republican), and try to male a coherent case that Reagan shouldn’t have been impeached. He should have been dragged out in handcuffs, along with North and Poindexter and Abrams and the rest of that infernal cabal that haunts us to this day.
RonD @ 160
And he rained all over Ray Charles’ memorial.
Loo Hoo said, “Neurophius, think you’re mixing up your Nancys here.”
Please explain. I thought Nancy Reagan attended the first debate, the one at the Reagan Library, and I thought that was what the earlier reference to “Nancy” related to.
Evening Betsy. How’s life in the Lone Star?
TexBetsy @ 171
Greetings.
RonD @ 172
He should have been hauled off to the Hague for war crimes trials.
oddmommy @ 170
Sure, if you overlook that he sent the national guard in to rough up the student protesters.
oddmommy, having water all over my keyboard does not lend itself to effective commenting.
Hi Betsy!
DrDick @ 175
Life is good. Had a nice day, spent time with my son, saw some friends, went out to the lake (actual, not virtual) briefly, even had a nap. Perfect weather.
Cass just got in trouble with blogmad for voting for her own blogs every day. She didn’t understand why other people saw that as cheating.
This is all good since I need to work tomorrow.
And how are all the other states? How was everyone’s Saturday?
oddmommy @ 158,
My guess is that some people think we need to have a psycho bat from hell to lead our country, because it scares the world’s bad guys into behaving.
That’s crazy, but I think that’s what they think.
Betsy-tell Cassie the word for what she did is “initiative”.
oddmommy @ 170
Yes.
Claiming “hearing loss”, Ronny the young actor hovered over beds along Sunset…
while real patriots like Jimmy Stewart flew over Occupied Europe
How the other 0.5% live.
Fucking the rest of us.
RonD @ 182
She was proud of her work and thought she had one of the best blogs, so she kept voting for it.
RonD @ 182
As they say in politics, if you won’t vote for yourself, who will?
neurophius @ 174
You’re right, I didn’t read carefully. TSF was talking about Nancy Reagan, and I was thinking Pelosi. sorry.
My daddy worked for the man Ronnie Raygun beat in CA in 66, Pat Brown. My daddy said “I’m not living in a fascist state, we’re outta here” and we landed in deecee. When Raygun was Presidented, I was gobsmacked. He was an intellectual lightweight, a friggin actor, fer crissakes. He’s too stoopid to be our President, I wailed. My folks moved back to California.
Dad’s churning in his urn now.
TexBetsy said, “And how are all the other states?”
KS has dried out from last week’s floods (one came within about 50 feet of my house), and the people at Greensburg are getting help trying to put the pieces back together after the tornado that wiped out the town. And the governor has put Chimpy on notice that we could sure use all our National Guard equipment that he has shipped off to Iraq.
Neuro #188,
What’s the problem? Tony Snow says all you have to do is ask…
neurophius @ 188
Don’t governors have full control over their local guard?
TexBetsy @ 184
Sounds like the worst one can say is that she did the wrong thing for the right reasons…and when it comes to something as unimportant in the grand scheme as blog popularity contests, I can only use the word “wrong” in a very loose sense.
EvilDrPuma @ 53
I agree and had never heard of this case before. So, I do what I always do first; I go to the Wikipedia:
All of which is no surprise. Then I find:
As with the charges against the Duke Lacorsse team, charges of rape of whites against blacks in the South to be taken with some level of skepticism.
In 1963, a classmate and I drove 36 hrs to spend Easter at his home in Bessemer AL, just outside of Birmingham. As we were entering Bessemer, we passed a billboard on which was a large white stallion. Above it was the inscription “Welcome to Bessemer Alabama.” Beneath was the inscription “KKK.”
It was 6:30 A.M., and I had done all of the driving. As his mother fixed us breakfast, I scanned the local newspaper, which contained a story of a 15-year-old boy being tried as an adult for the capital offense of “house breaking.”
I asked incredulously, “Dick, is ‘house breaking’ a capital offense in Alabama?” He replied, “It depends on your complection. If black male breaks into a white household, it is presumed that he is there for one and only one reason, to rape the lady of the house. And in Alabama, when a black rapes a white, it’s a capital offense.”
I had been driving for 36 hours straight, and felt like I had arrived on the surface of the moon.
RonD @ 189
OK, Tony, come on out. I guess YOU have a lot of experience in hauling other people’s trash…
noen @ 190
If they did, Der Shrubbenfuhrer probably wouldn’t have been able to gut the guards for Iraq occupation cannon-fodder.
TexBetsy @ 171
Hiya Betsy, how’s things?
neurophius @ 188
Good for the governor! We faced that here in January with an ice storm.
Petrocelli @ 195
On the whole, things is pretty good. You?
Re “other half lives” I MEANT a feeble joke about how SOME men — specifically base-minded men UNLIKE their highly evolved brethren that inhabit this Lake — talk about women. Sheeeesh……
EvilDrPuma @ 92
Right now on C-SPAN I’m listening to a commencement address by Mohammed Yunus– the Bangladeshi who got a Nobel peace prize for inventing the whole “micro-loan” concept. Now there’s an inspiring way to deal with poverty!
Bob in HI
Nationally, violent crime is pretty low isn’t it?
How to reduce violent crimes:
1) Put more police on the street.
2) Make jobs that pay a living wage a reality.
God, Wigwam at 192. Do you have a diary of incidents like this? Could be a bestseller.
noen @ 200
3) Educate boys and girls about domestic violence.
4) Drug treatment
5) Adequate community-based psych treatment
TexBetsy @ 202
6) Impeach, convict, and replace the entire Bush administration.
Still true today?
Mommybrain @ 187
I recall watching the 1968 Presidential convention (GOP) on teevee with my grandma, who hated Nixon with a passion. When Reagan came out in his white suit to make Nixon’s nomination unanimous, my grandma said, “If that man ever becomes President, we’re moving to Canada.” Only one of those things came to pass, eventually.
TexBetsy @ 202
6) Decriminalize drug use and devote the money and effort to treatment
TexBetsy @ 197
Great … and I haven’t made a zig yet, so Suz hasn’t tasered me … although I have to admit, I am startng to enjoy it … *g*
Noen 200, to that I would add: stop locking up non-violent, otherwise non-criminal posession cases for absurd mandatory-minimum sentences to make space for the violent ones. Here in FL they routinely release inmates with all kinds of horrific records to make way for drug criminals on mandatory minimums.
Bedtime for me. Be excellent to each other, and be excellent to yourselves.
Hey Petrocelli, I got my eye on you and your zigs. ;)
EvilDrPuma @ 203
I like your ideas the best, EDP.
RonD @ 208
In Oklahoma in the 70s and 80s, you could do more time for simple possession than for armed robbery.
EvilDrPuma @ 209
Sleep well Evil.
Night EDP, sleep the sleep of the just.
My brother ended up in prison because of problems he had with guns; he was going through a period of poor decision-making after a serious accident caused some brain damage. In some ways it was like dealing with a person whose wiring has been screwed up by drug usage. I really don’t remember what his sentence was, whether it seemed fair or not because of his background and circumstances. All I know in retrospect is that we all of us learned a lot from the time he served.
First, he realized he had no business being in prison — because nearly everybody else there could not read. He spent his time helping others to learn to read. Second, we realized how important family is to helping folks get back on the road, and that far too many people who come out of prison have insufficient family or social networks to help them. (Look at what Cassie’s family is doing to fill in for her mom; that’s huge, just one example.)
Perhaps we need to look at the circumstances that make situations like my brother’s so similar to all the others. Like the affect of drugs on humans, a common factor that disables good decision-making. Like the circumstances that create a cycle that is hard to break. It’s these factors that we should be looking at more carefully since in some respects they are equal opportunity.
There are more African-American men in prison because of cycles that reinforce their imprisonment — and racism locks these cycles more firmly, so that it takes even more effort and resources to break them. What might keep African-American men from being readers and therefore high school and college graduates? What family structures exist that make it easier for them to stay in school, or for them to transition from jail/prison to the workforce if they end up on the wrong side of the equation? My brother faced this stuff, but he was already a high school graduate and had a couple years of college and work experience under his belt when he ended up in prison; he was mixed race, but passed for white and had parents who provided the resources and backbone he needed on his way back into society. Most of his fellow inmates didn’t have those things going for them.
I don’t know anything about “Dan”, the person featured here, but I’ll bet that he shares at least one of the factors with the rest of the folks who ended up in prison. That he needs assistance with getting a car suggests that he may be lacking in familial resources. That’s where we come in, here in FDL, but more importantly, that’s where we should come in as society. We should be providing what is missing in order to break the cycle before it starts.
Suzanne @ 210
… waiting for my buddy CTuttle to show up … we’ve got rubber suits on … oh wait … that was for the Chris Matthews thread … *g*
DrDick @ 212
Makes me thing the state legislatures should look at ALL of the sentencing guidelines side by side. Perhaps with some non-elected officials to help out.
Another sad fact is that the mentally ill are over represented in the criminal system. Parents of children suffering from schizophrenia are often told that until their child threatens them they can do nothing.
Rayne @ 215
Very, very well said.
My sis-in-law (Cass’s mom) has a college degree. But so far, all she’s doing in prison is bitching and moaning. Or so it seems from here.
noen @ 218
Oh how sad.
TexBetsy @ 217
Just another example of Fundy driven morality policing. All through the South (and elsewhere) legislatures passed draconian drug laws, which had absolutely no impact on drug use, and exponentially grew the prison populations. Decriminalizing drug use and treating it as what it is, a medical problem, would free up huge amounts of money now wasted on the penal and court systems.
DrDick @ 221
But the companies that build prisons might suffer if we did that. ***sarcasm***
A sense of hopelessness. When you grown up knowing that you will not get a job and most likely will not live much past 40, you stop caring. You get angry and you want to hurt those who made your life miserable.
Hope is what people need. If you grow up black in the barrios of America, you have none.
Rayne @ 215
I read a little while ago that since the Swiss set up clinics to treat Heroin as an addiction, the population in general have stopped using it as a recreational drug. This is a proven effective method for reducing drug abuse, there are many more.
How come America incarcerates a larger percentage of its population than any other country?
Because friends of Bush & Co. profit greatly from this practice, and it makes the unemployment figures low.
TexBetsy @ 222
That’s true. We have to keep our (Republican) priorities straight.
Petrocelli @ 224
How does it make the unemployment figure low?
noen @ 223
There is also well documented pervasive racism in the public schools. If you are constantly given the message that you have no worth and that you are destined to fail or are incapable of succeeding, you simply quit trying.
oddmommy @ 198
Hi oddmommy -
I liked your joke, and built on it!
(or tried to.. :{
I very much apologize for any apparent snark at your expense.
I didn’t intend any criticism of you; I sincerely apologize for even seeming to.
Mea culpa.
I’ve been teaching in inner-city and other poor schools for 15 years. I see bright, eager to learn children of all races in the early grades, but a definite difference in how kids perceive school by 5th grade, and even bigger differences in middle school and high school. Family and cultural and peer attitudes seem to tell blacks at that point that school is not the answer for them.
Some kids resist that pull away from school and learning, but many don’t.
g’morni’
kirk murphy @ 228
There was no intended snark from me either. I hope mt comment didn’t come off that way because it wasn’t intended to.
noen @ 226
People who are not working because they are incarcerated are not listed as unemployed. Neither are they employed and productive. And no one notices that their job is now in India since no one is counting them.
tw3k @ 230
Or good evening. Hi.
TexBetsy @ 229
I think that what has happened is that some blacks have internalized the racism around them and as a result some try to reject the culture wholesale.
TexBetsy @ 233
Just woke up and am working on second cup-o-joe. Hi!
TexBetsy @ 219
That’s a shame, it means she’s not made it around the corner yet. Not that my kid brother isn’t capable of being a whiny pain-in-the-ass and that he didn’t whine (he certainly did), it still sunk into his cracked head that he was different from the rest of the folks in prison because he knew better. He was educated. He could read. He could have greater aspirations for his life.
Not that I’m being an apologist, since I believe we are all responsible for the choices we make, but I wonder if your SIL has been physically damaged by drug abuse and is still not mentally processing properly because of it. Food for thought.
Petrocelli @ 224
This is where we have to engage in a much larger conversation about corporate interests and their ability to drive policy and legislation. Corporations’ interests should not override the public interest, and conflicts of interest should simply not be permitted.
TexBetsy @ 229
This is also a part of the problem. Minorities buy into the stereotype that education is a “white thing”. To succeed at education is to sell out or try to be white (I also see it in American Indian and Hispanic students). McGruder does a great job of lampooning this in his strip Boondocks.
TexBetsy @ 232
People who are not working because they are incarcerated are not listed as unemployed. Neither are they employed and productive. And no one notices that their job is now in India since no one is counting them.
!!!!!!
They don’t count those in prison as unemployed?? Amazing!
I think the rise of private, for-profit prisons is one of the most ominous recent developments in this country, where there have been many ominous developments lately.
Rayne, she had several mental issues and impairments (if not diagnosed mental illnesses) well before she picked up drugs.
noen @ 238
!!!!!!
They don’t count those in prison as unemployed?? Amazing!
About the only thing they count them for is to artificially inflate the population of counties with prisons.
Rayne @ 236
This is where we have to engage in a much larger conversation about corporate interests and their ability to drive policy and legislation. Corporations’ interests should not override the public interest, and conflicts of interest should simply not be permitted.
I think we should end this nonsense about corporations being “people”. That would help a lot I bet. Not holding my breath though.
RonD @ 239
the little brother of war profit.
TexBetsy @ 184
I just heard Bill Clinton say on CSPAN that private citizens can do more public good than ever before. And he mentioned the Internet, using the tsunami and political giving last year (he didn’t mention Blue America, but he might have). He also mentioned fundraising by students for relief in Darfur.
We’re part of the solution, Firepups!
But one thing he said might not be received so well here. He noted that world interconnectivity enhances the importance of making friends with people who are different. And I think he’s right.
Gee, maybe we SHOULD feed the trolls. :-)
Bob in HI
noen @ 223
Well said, noen … Michael Eric Dyson said after 9/11 that brown people will finally realize what blacks have to go through. Although I live in multi- cultural Toronto, I’d never thought of it like that. They get treated with suspicion even when they haven’t done anything wrong. I closed my eyes and tried to imagine how I would feel, and hopeless would be a good word, as well as angry and destructive.
noen @ 190
No. The Prez can trump them. Isn’t our brave new world wunnerful?
Bob in HI
Bob Schacht @ 244
Fine by me.
Who do we feed them to?
TexBetsy @ 240
As I said earlier, drug abuse (at least excessive, habitual use) is a psychological and medical problem. The people who are driven or drawn to it are psychologically vulnerable. Addiction or dependency only compound those problems and render them incapable of rational choice. Knowing that they are victims of their own internal demons, however, does not make them any easier to live with.
noen @ 247
ROFL !!!
I think TRex eats them as snacks.
DrDick @ 248
People also self medicate. The mentally ill will use drugs and alcohol to treat their symptoms because they don’t have effective access to treatment.
kirk murphy @ 228
No no…..quite all right. It just is hard to tell sometimes from these little blips on the computer screen who means what….just didn’t want anyone to think I was really, uh, into Ronnie. Indeed……even in my ripe young 20’s, I am proud to say, I recognized that he was……well…….an idiot.
btw, appreciated your comment several threads ago about Putin and the oil companies. That was the general gist of what I had in mind –i.e., that he did take back for the Russian people what was rightfully theirs to begin with.
EvilDrPuma @ 203
Prime the Pump!
http://priming-the-pump.wikispaces.com/
Bob in HI
It was nice to arrive near the beginning of the Late Nite thread tonight and be able to join in the discussion.
Too often lately, I have arrived late and found myself lurking through hundreds of previous comments and never catching up with the current discussion (if I do catch up, most of the commenters have gone to bed).
In any event, I enjoyed spending the evening with you all in real time. Good night.
Suzanne @ 250
Can’t be very tasty. Trolls are greasy and hairy and they smell bad. He must use a lot of BBQ sauce.
I think the trolls get pretty well masticated here at the lake. If not here we could send them over to the posters and commenters at Sadly, No. They can be meciless.
Bob Schacht @ 253
ah, cool, you worked out a scratch pad :)
snack for TREX and anyone else who likes eating trolls
midnight snack for the rest of us
noen @ 251
This is a large part of the problem. It also reflects the stigmatization of mental illness in American society. Admitting that you have problems you cannot deal with on your own is an admission of unacceptable weakness.
neurophius @ 254
Good night and sleep well.
neurophius @ 254
lol, same here. Good Night.
Night neurophius.
noen @ 255
Tabasco sauce. Enough of that will cover up anything.
g’nite neuro
noen @ 218
Now that we’ve done away with most mental institutions, jails are all that we have left for people who are unwilling or unable for whatever reason to “follow the rules.” Our jails are the new “lunatic asylums.”
Bob in HI
merciless…sheeesh
TexBetsy-eating that at this time of night would cause terrible dreams. Newt in drag maybe?
TexBetsy @ 258
I think my cholesterol went up just looking at that other pic.
TexBetsy @ 229
I have given lectures at various schools about yoga/meditation vis a vis how to realize your full potential. The first question I ask is, “What prevents you from reaching your goals and desires?”
And as prepared as I am, it always hits me in the gut every time someone answers, “People around you, telling you that you can’t.”
- This is always stated by someone of African descent.
TexBetsy @ 229
This is HUGE. I could see it happen with my daughter in grade school, could see culture f*cking with her self-perception.
As a two-year-old she told me she wanted to be a doctor, happened every time we heard an ambulance siren (don’t ask me how that started, I still don’t know).
As a five-year-old she wanted to be a veterinarian, to doctor sick animals.
But by fifth grade she wanted to be a beautician, to do hair and nails. I wanted to scream.
I was ruthless, shameless. I killed that dream in the cradle. I told her that there was absolutely no way in hell that a gifted child who tested in the upper 10% of students was going to toy with the idea of beauty school when she should be working on the chemistry behind beauty, trying to develop new products that didn’t require testing on animals, using all her gifts in science, math and technology on something much bigger. Then I laid out the financials for her — what the average beautician makes, what chemical engineers make, what engineering managers make and so on, along with talking about the freedom of choice that financial success allows.
I think she’s back on the right path, working now on a program that will probably bankrupt me putting her through doctoral studies, but so be it.
What’s missing in the lives of nearly all kids is somebody drawing the line and stopping the encroachment of consumerist culture on our kids’ dreams. In the lives of kids whose parents are working two or more jobs, who may only have one overworked parent, or parent(s) who are already fully co-opted by culture themselves, there’s nobody drawing the line. It takes more than our overtasked teachers to do this, too.
TexBetsy @ 232
Good point. I’ll try to remember that.
Thanks,
Bob in HI
Rayne @ 269
Good for you! What great parenting!
My teenager (a boy) wants to be in the CIA.
Loo Hoo. @ 201
That trip got even more interesting.
This was the time of Martin Luther King’s marches in Birmingham. Bull Conner, firehoses, German shepherds, etc. There was lots of tension.
]I was in school in the north, and my housemate Dick had gotten over all vestiges of racial prejudice when he became a devoted student of a black martial arts instructor, who became something of a father figure to him. But the conversation that I had with Dick’s relatives were unbelieveable: “You yankees have it all wrong. We treat our colored folk good down here.” And, indeed they did have affection for their “colored folk.” It was sort of like listening to a farmer express affection for his animals. If you ask that farmer to bring his animals to his table, he’d be incredulous.”
Yes, underneath there were things much worse than that. Dick and I were scheduled to go to a party at our black classmate Art’s home on the other side of that same block. I quickly got the picture that both mothers were concerned that “this might cause trouble.” We did so anyway, and half way through the evening Dick and his soon-to-be fiance took off for parts unknown, leaving me the only white guy on the black side of that block. Art, his brother, and I philosphized as 21-year-olds tend to do. When we ran out of beer we went next door to get beer from their long-time neighbor. Upon returning, Art turned to me and said: “He’s not going to speak to my folks for a couple of months.” I said that I agreed that 3:00am is a helluva time to wake up a neighbor to ask for beer. Art said: “No. It’s because you were along.” Oh shit: the sudden realization that someone could despise me for thde color of my skin! It and “well of course” went through me like a bolt of lightning.
When we drove back to school, after an hour on the road, Dick and Art pointed out to me that I was committing a felony. I was a white person driving with a black person in the front seat.
Bob Schacht @ 270
So… how many in total are imprisoned in the US?
Must TRY to crash while I still have a chance. Good nite, everybody.
Peace be unto You.
RonD @ 274
Sleep well Ron
g’nite rond
Nite, RonD. Pleasant drems (not of Newtie in drag).
noen @ 226
I agree that incarceration does (falsely) lower unemployment rates, but disagree that these rates are higher “because” Bush and his cronies in the private Stalag sector.
American incarceration rates (white and “non-white”) have far exceeded those of other industrial democracies for some decades.
IIRC Jessica Mitford’s great book Kind and Usual Punishment looked at this subject – back in 1973.
I agree that the Bushies profit from and promote our cruelly high incarceration rates.
They are merely the latest.
prisoner of a different sort –
Australian home from Guantanamo
David Hicks, the Australian convicted of supporting terrorism, returns home to serve his prison sentence.
He spent five years at the US detention centre in Cuba, and under a deal with prosecutors will serve only seven more months of a seven-year sentence.
He admitted training with al-Qaeda in Afghanistan in 2001, but denied any prior knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
The 31-year-old will serve his sentence in Yatala prison near Adelaide.
A prison van was waiting for him at the air force base outside Adelaide where his plane landed at 0950 (0020 GMT).
snip
RonD @ 172
Ding!
TexBetsy @ 271
Thanks, Bets.
CIA, huh? Good for him. What’s Plan B? or C? ;-)
That’s what my dad asked me when I was in 8th grade. “What happens if you discover that you can’t make a living in that field or that you can’t stand doing that for 50 years? What’s your fallback?”
Gotta love those engineering-types. Always thinking ahead.
TB, not sure what tripped the spam filter but I freed it. refresh the page and it should be there
tw3k @ 257
Yup. About 4 Firepups have joined today, but so far I’ve been the only one providing content. I can’t do it all. This needs to be a group project.
Bob in HI
Rayne @ 280
In the reality-based world, architect.
In the 7th grade world, James Bond or an assassin.
Rayne @ 280
Your dad was an engineer? So was mine. They are definitely a strange breed. Mine did calculus in hexadecimal in his head. NEVER let someone like that help you with your high school algebra homework.
Bob Schacht @ 265
DrDick @ 285
LOL. Mine was a computer guy, but I can relate.
Baby girl has decided against joining the Air Force and is going to college to become a Paramedic and eventually getting her degree in Fire Science and becoming a Firefighter/Paramedic.
Then she will look at the Air Force again, after she completes college.
Mom is sleeping much easier now.
TexBetsy @ 283
If you want to nudge him towards architect download Goggles’ free program SketchUp. It’s very easy and incredibly popular.
noen @ 289
He LOVES it!
Time to get some sleep. Look forward to visiting with y’all again tomorrow.
newspaperbrat @ 280
IIRC, they made a huge deal about his Alzheimer’s and how he could not be held accountable, etc., etc. … then there were the fall guys who were pardoned by Bush41.
TexBetsy @ 283
Ah. Architecture. My dad discouraged that, encouraged me to go into structural engineering instead, said architecture was going to be difficult for me to make a living.
That is the ugly flipside to having an engineer for a father. Every problem could be solved by inserting an engineer.
I went into engineering and I was horribly bored and out of place, did not fit me at all. I switched majors, went into business which fit me much better, and eventually ended up in an area that embraces both my technical skills and innate gifts (market intelligence for software). At least it works for now.
And I married a structural engineer. ;-)
Maybe the boy just needs to see a pic of Valerie Plame; tell him he could provide great cover for a Valerie as an international architect.
Night Betsy. Sleep long and well.
noen @ 289
:o cool link!
noen @ 200
FBI data for 2005 showed that the nation’s total violent crime rate was 38% lower than in 1991, when violent crime hit an all-time high.
More police on the street is the best violent crime deterrent.
TexBetsy,
CIA student opportunities
What do you think of this? I looked at it and showed it to my older son.
g’night TB
Omigod, it’s TWO A.M. EDT???
Sorry, Pups, I’m out of here.
Bob, I’ll try to check out the Wiki tomorrow, okay? Might not hurt for you to post a call for assistance as a diary entry at DailyKos.
Niters!
Well, Pups, I think I am off to bed as well. Enjoy the soothing waters of the Lake and think lots of happy thoughts.
Night Rayne.
oops – sorry about 286 – stuck my comment
in the middle of Bob’s comment. my bad.
km, i think we have all done that one at some point. tis a common error :)
kirk murphy @ 278
Ultimately, I don’t see the profit to anyone in this incarceration rate. (OK, maybe the wardens’ union.)
It seems to be a let-em-know-who’s-boss thing with the white power structure, sort of groupwise alpha-male thing.
This business of putting people in jail to protect them from the evils of cocaine is the craziest thing I’ve read since Gulliver’s Travels.
When I was a kid, as I recall, there was a “Fearless Fosdick” episode in the Dick Tracy comic strip in which Fosdick shot everyone in sight to prevent them from eating poison beans. It was hysterical, per http://januarymagazine.com/profiles/collins.html
IMHO, that was a parody of the war on drugs in the spirit of Johathan Swift. Locking people up to save them is the stupedist thing on earth.
I find that self-medication can be part of the solution.Bob Schacht @ 283
Bob, I’ve been over three times, and can’t get past the headlines.Bob Schacht @ 265
Bob,
Your site keeps telling me that my username is too long. It’s Loo Hoo.
PLovering @ 296
PLovering, elsewhere on the Lake you sang your authoritarian hymm
to the music of a url with disgusting racist slurs.
Did you notice the response?
Another commenter had that response for you.
Nothing I have to say about you and your racist link would be acceptable here.
noen @ 218
In California, this problem came about as a result of Reagan emptying out the mental hospitals. That’s also where much of the homelessness problem came from.
PLovering @ 295
No. An aging male population is the best deterent.
The demographics show that the average age of the male population is increasing and that that would account for nearly all of the decrease in crime.
Have any of you read Freakonomics?
The authors have some very interesting statistics as to the ‘real’ reasons for the drop in crime.
IMHO, it takes more than just one thing to really make changes. It takes more than just more cops on the street. It takes more than just parental involvement. It takes more than just more mental health being made available. It takes more than treatment for drug addiction. It takes more than just a living wage.
It takes ALL of those things and much more to permanently lower violent crime rates.
In my humble opinion, it takes all of us, the entire village to make real change.
Suzanne @ 288
Oh, Suzanne, I’m so happy for you. My daughter’s boyfriend just graduated from a firefighter academy and is now working on EMT.
“American in Uniform” can extend beyond the military into what is somewhat safer.
My daughter is studying to be a dental hygienist.
(laughing) LooHoo, public safety is in her blood. My dad was career Navy. My sister joined the Navy when she turned 18. Baby girl’s father and I were both officers at our department.
My only grumble is about her running into burning buildings, but I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it. Like my mom did when I joined the Dept.
A dental hygienist is a great profession with good earning potential. Congratulations.
Suzanne @ 310
*sniff* *sniff* … that was beautiful … you should be writing speeches for Hillary, or better still, you should be running instead of Hillary.
Rayne @ 299
Good idea!
Bob in HI
pssst, petro – i can’t – i’m a republican. don’t tell anyone, ok?
Wigwam @ 304
In California, the wardens’ union does right well
We’ve talked about the hopeless cycles of incarceration in the U.S. So far as I can tell, no other industrialized country has these problems. What are they doing that is different?
Petrocelli @ 309
Do tell, Petrocelli.
Suzanne @ 315
Don’t worry … your secret’s safe with me … desperately searches for little used Town Crier’s bell …
Petrocelli @ 308
Does it agree with mine at #307?
Wigwam @ 317
They sent their Puritans into exile.
We made ours cultural icons.
D’oh!
kirk murphy @ 315
Ah, the problem of disloging vested intersts!
Wigwam, other countries have more social programs that address the underlying issues is what I think. Crime and violence is always going to exist as long as humans do but prevention programs that start early can and do make a difference. A neighborhood that chooses to make a stand – to make a difference – that says not here, not any more will have a higher likelihood of keeping violence and crime down. Other countries are more successful at this than America, where our attitude is to just toss ‘em in jail.
Petrocelli @ 319
Ding! Bring out your dead!
Dong! Bring out your dead!
Petrocelli @ 207
Evening, Texas Betty, I’m done cooking the family vittles and popped back! Crooks and Liars has a link to an old FDL post!!! It was certainly a blast from the past, I was wondering who wrote it, “Debbie Howell”, I couldn’t ascertain whom it was, I suspect TRex!!!
Dan may want to check some of the websites that try to help people organize carpools. Do a Google search on ride share.
I agree with the people who say put off buying a car as long as possible. The expenses are at least double what you expect and one accident even if it’s not your fault can cost you the entire investment. Insurance companies would rather total an otherwise running car then to pay to fix it.
The only other advice I’d give, was given to me and made a huge difference in my life, is pay your self first. No matter what money you make, take 5% off the top and put it into a savings account somewhere and don’t touch it. Once you have 6 months living expenses then you can save for other things, but always put 5% into the rainy day fund. You never miss it and it does add up.
Loo Hoo. @ 318
I hope I don’t flub this, please correct any mistakes I might make – I tell my wife this every time we … never mind …
You know how Giuliani takes credit for the drop in crime in NYC? Messrs. Levitt & Dubner make the case, with a great deal of statistical evidence that the greater number of crimes are committed by abandoned children or those born destitute. Well this was the demographic that had the most % of abortions, since Roe V Wade and the crime rate was dropping well before Giuliani took office. It really is a great read.
SUZANNE’S A REPUBLICAN?
Please sit down, Suzanne. Put a cold washcloth on your forehead. Tell us about it tomorrow after you have a chance to recuperate.
Petrocelli @ 319
Tut, tut, P, always picking on Suzanne!!! :P
CTuttle @ 325
Hey CTuttle, Suzanne’s evening has been very boring so far, wanna get ziggy with it? She might enjoy a good old- fashioned car chase after a couple of bad guys over the TOOBZ… tee hee …
kirk murphy @ 320
Damn! Here I thought I was the last puritan, and MTV had turned everyone else into Hedonists. So now it’s all my fault!?!
Seriously, I think you’re right. But behind it all, someone is gaining power, influence, money, etc. I’m not clear about who and how.
Loo Hoo. @ 327
I was going to say, “So’s Hillary !!!”, but thought I should be civil … oh snap !!!
Love you, Suzanne. Not many republicans I can say that about these days!
The Lil Debbie post was written by Jane. She totally nailed Lil Debbie.
Suzanne @ 323
A Stitch in Time, saves Nine… ;)
Petrocelli @ 329
Yee-Haw, Pahtee…!!! :)))
CTuttle @ 334
We’ve de- criminalized marijuana use and allow medical marijuana use and gay marriages … heck we even treat them as normal people … /s
Learn quicker America, Canada is an impatient teacher.
CTuttle @ 335
I’ll be Luke, you be Bo, let’s fire up the General …
Suzanne @ 333
Thanks Ma’am!!! So true, It was a great post, whew, I like the format utilized today!!!
noen @ 223
Very well said. IMVHO, if you want to learn what a systemic lack of education does to any group of people over a sustained period, study African Americans. Legalized white supremacy prevented slaves from any access to education in the south prior to 1865. In 1920 the State of Florida only had four high schools that admitted African Americans of both genders. Illiteracy and innumeracy are breeding grounds for substance abuse, unemployment, domestic violence, incarceration, bankruptcy, and mental illness in any human being. Lack of education wasn’t the only hurdle African Americans faced. Even after the Civil War, through legalized white supremacy, they were routinely denied access to the vote, credit, habeas corpus, and legal representation all over the US. Again all over the US, prior to the 60’s they routinely had farms and profitable businesses stolen by European Americans who did it, because they were able to.
Suzanne @ 322
We seem to believe that the “unseen hand” and “market forces” will ultimately take care of everything. The government should not intrude. I, however, agree with Ambrose Bierce’s Devil’s Dictionary: PIRACY, n. Commerce without its folly-swaddles, just as God made it.
Car suggestions but requires cash to purchase:
Used police cars, unmarked preferable. Cheap. Excellent engines and usually extremely well maintained but won’t be pretty. It’ll have been stripped of lights, siren, etc. but it’ll run well and last a long time. Taxi companies often pick used cop cars up for their fleets so if you know anyone who drives a cab in the area, ask where they get their used cars. But don’t buy a cab!
Next option: government auction vehicles through a dealer/middleman. Look especially for military cars/pickups ideally. They’ll have 80,000 miles on them, and if they were used on a base they also won’t be pretty, but they’ll have been well-maintained.
The first under the hood problem you’ll have to watch for if the vehicle has 90K miles is the radiator but if it’s holding fluids you should be ok for a bit.
Wigwam @ 330
Endless Enemies
“but wait, there’s more”
War on:
crime
drugs
child kidnappers
drunk drivers
computer hackers
identity thieves
“iilegal” aliens
homeless
Communists
protesters
MacArthur Park picnic parties
The one thing that can be said for Bush, he has forever put to rest the myth of “white supremacy.”
Petrocelli @ 337
Sho’ Nuff, in 336 you hit the nail on the head!!! I’ve preached ‘Decriminalization’ of certain vices as opposed to ‘Legalization’. You do not need to morally accept the practices, but, you do not make criminals of the Practitioners!!!
I disagree, wigwam, he has put to rest the myth of bush supremacy. unfortunately, the ugly in our country is runs more than just bush deep.
kirk murphy @ 341
Oh yes. Every crusade is backed by someone who thinks they can make a buck.
Am I right in concluding that the only people who have suffered more than black men are black women?
Suzanne @ 344
Agreed. But that’s how my black friends see it anyway.
Petrocelli @ 347
The women significantly take the brunt, but, I would argue, the indigenous Population, throughout our sordid History, not just to say Today’s dire conditions!!!
Petrocelli @ 346
I would disagree. And I base that one the number of premature deaths (primarily homicides) and the rate at which each group attains college degrees.
We have a whole bunch of people in this country who make themselves feel better about themselves by belittling someone else. People of color. Women. Gays. In our founding days the targets were witches, slavery, native peoples, women. The behavior is the same. Unfortunately, for some, what starts out as verbal eventually becomes violence.
My fundy Republican ex-husband was very good at belittling in order to make him feel better about himself. In his mind he was a better person – his statement had proven that he was a better person in comparison.
CTuttle @ 345
Touche, mon ami.
Because of my studies in yoga/meditation and the development of the human potential, I believe that drug abuse is very harmful to oneself and in no way does it uplift or enhance life.
However, I do not look at those who do drugs as criminals. As for gays, they’re equal in every respect to everyone else.
And while I’m on my soapbox, women should stop demanding that we treat them as equals … they are far superior to men in every life- enhancing way … humbly accepts deluge of roses from female FDLers …
Wigwam @ 341
“WE” don’t believe that, do we? That sounds like a Republican talking point. When the Preznit speaks so fervently about “freedom,” what he means is freedom FROM rules and regulations, so that the “unseen hand” can do whatever it wants, and Market Forces can do whatever they want, with no apologies needed to anyone who gets crushed along the way. To the Republican aristocrats, “Freedom” applies mainly to the rich, and not to the poor.
Bob in HI
CTuttle @ 350
I asked this question because Jane made an interesting comment a few days ago, that electing a female President would do more to right the many wrongs of American history than electing a black man as President. (This was not a choice between Hillary V Obama but between two minority groups as far as politics is concerned)
Petrocelli, gotta wonder what civilization would be like had women been in leadership roles since Cleopatra.
In the mid-seventies I took my parents on trip through the western states. I had been told that the Mormons were more than a bit misogynist but kept an open mind. And, sure enough, when we got to the state capitol there were many busts of the founders of Utah in a circle, but one of them was of a woman, in a bonnet like you see of movies of wagon trains.
I had to go over to see exactly who this woman was. But when I read the inscription, it read: “To those who served us well.”
No shit!
Petrocelli @ 352
Gaack! …Humbly accepts… Gaack! I’m all for nirvana, but, sputter, sputter, You’re abetting and appeasing and empowering the hordes!!! *g*
Loo Hoo. @ 355
Probably more harmonious, you know; Home and Hearth practicalities vs Domination and Destruction!!!
ed*ard, are you here? I have a trombone question.
Loo Hoo. @ 356
That’s an easy question, Loo Hoo … we’d be your slaves even before marriage … *g*
Petro@354, must have been while I was down for the count, I’ll go back and read it! Myself, either is a viable and historic break with the White Guy chain, and whole-heartedly embrace either/or!!!
Bob Schacht @ 352
That was a rhetorical “we,” intended to represent my sense of current American culture. Our kids have grown up knowing nothing else but Reaganism. It has become an unconscious article of faith.
Let me give you an example of what I’m taling about. When the Linux operating system became available, it was for many purposes vastly superior than anything else on the market, and it was free. But even where it made operational sense, there was an instinctive sense that free software had to be a communist plot. No amount of testing, demonstration of support, or anything but good-old-American greed woudl convince them. And greed won out. People finally accepted Linux because it made them money, or at least cost them less than the free-market alternatives.
Petrocelli @ 360
Duck, flying objects….
It wouldn’t be so much death and destruction, no. But remember high school clique wars between the girls? Vicious and ugly, even if it was all words and rumors. That’s one area where men can’t keep up and never will be able to. Needless to say, it would be somewhat quieter than the wars/pissing contests. Somewhat. (and i am a girl so i’m not knocking it either way. female politicking is scary!)
CTuttle @ 358
A man dies and goes to Heaven. He is promptly met by St. Peter who tells him to get into one of two lines.
The banner above the first line says, “Hen Pecked Husbands”, the banner above the second line says, “Everyone else”. The first line stretches endlessly into the horizon, while the second line is completely empty.
The guy goes and stands in the second line. The men who notice stare in disbelief.
St. Peter rushes over, “Are you sure you’re in the right line?”
“Oh yes”, replies the man, “My wife told me to stand here.”
moral of the story … my wife told me to write that … tee hee hee … fire up the Gen, Bo … let’s light a shuck outta here …
aliasofwestgate @ 364
Ooh, Cat Fight, How Delish!!! However, Nancy’s performance is par exemplar!!!
mutzali, i think et is doing a Beethoven concert tonight, iirc.
CTuttle @ 365
I’d prefer Nancy to any of the announced candidates.
CTuttle @ 367
I would love to see Pelosi as President with a majority in Congress. Give that fiery Italian 4 years and see what she’ll do.
Thanks Suzanne.
Petrocelli @ 365
707!!! Ooh, I’m in that first line!!! *g*
Suzanne @ 368
Yes, and he has had quite an emotional day.
[[[ ET ]]]
Petrocelli @ 369
Impeach Shrub and Deadeye, and viola, Madame Prez!!!!!!!!!!!
mutzali, go ahead and post your question for him and then if he hasn’t shown up when you head off to bed, check back in the morning.
CTuttle @ 372
But it’s got to be a simultaneous impeachment, or each will pardon the other.
That said. The female cat fights still finish off more congenially than i’ve ever seen teh guy’s brawls finish. I’d rather have Nancy Pelosi in charge than any of the other front runners right now. Her cat herding skills are divine, along with that strength of will behind it. (i keep wanting to say tensai *facepalms* i watch too much japanese tv sometimes.)
Wigwam @ 376
I believe that an attorney commented on FDL that if they impeach Cheney and dig up anough evidence to bring up articles of impeachment against Bush immediately after, he would have no time to nominate a VP or pardon Cheney.
And there’d be no Dem President in the ensuing 12 – 16 years who would pardon either of them. Check Mate.
Petrocelli @ 377
I sure hope so. Pelosi 07!
Wigwam @ 375
Thats a given… Both, with Gonzo and Turd Blossom, they are so enmeshed that it will take traumatic surgery to excise the cancerous tumor growth within the body politic!!!
Hey
BoCTuttle, since you were out of touch, you might have missed this great article by Marcy. I think it’s well worth a read to show:A) Marcy’s genius
B) The Senate Dems emerging gameplan.
Being Chuck Schumer
CTuttle @ 379
And new USA appointees all around, hopefully, providing cognitive dissonance to the true believer hires.
Petrocelli @ 376
Consider this alternative line: Bush absolves Cheney, resigns, and then Cheney absolves Bush. By “absolves” I mean an plenary pardon of the sort that Ford gave Nixon.
Petrocelli @ 377
After reading Greenwald and Anonymous Liberal’s posts, I believe the Comey testimony is the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back!!! Jane and Marcy have also written well on the subject, but, Glenn is phenomenal!!! There is Hope in Dope!!! ;)
Petrocelli @ 380
It’s like wacthing an explosion in slow motion.
The thoughtful dedication of these bloggers keep me sane.
Petrocelli @ 380
Ooh, I’ll be back with the ‘General’ in a sec…
CTuttle @ 384
Did any of them say that there is enough evidence to impeach Bush & Cheney together?
CTuttle @ 382
I have to go with the crazy guy from Pepperdine, who pointed out that the AG and Acting AG aren’t the Supreme Court. Bush’s over-ruling of his AG does not de facto constitute a crime. But, unlike him, I sure think it’s a reason to demand an independent counsel.
Just wanted to second the motorcycle option, and vouch for the info quality at the websites mentioned by Softail@152.
Best way to buy a good, used motorcycle is, in my experience, craigslist. Right now, Houston craigslist has at least 4 or 5 early 80’s Honda’s (they run forever) in the $1500 – $2500 range.
Petrocelli @ 386
I’m Back, Luv that Horsepower… That was one that I had read and noted just earlier!!! It was Yesterday’s Salon, Glenn does cite a linkage, but, he does not argue for a double impeachment, tho he does not exclude it either!!!
CTuttle @ 374
Prime the Pump!
Bob in HI
Wigwam @ 376
You evidently prefer Elizabeth de la Vega’s solution Prime the Pump!
Bob in HI
Bob Schacht @ 390
Aloha, Bob!!! Any legal research wanted? I know my way around a law library and have access to the Hilo one!!!
Wigwam @ 383
But the pardon is an admission that a crime was committed, so the pardon relieves him of jail time, but still makes him ineligible to occupy either office, IIRC.
Bob in HI
Wigwam @ 388
I think Pepperdine is Neocon- leaning, am I right?
Bob Schacht @ 394
Or any further Public Office, for that matter!!!
Sorry about the Russian spam getting through, took a minute for the translation page to load up. Refresh your page and the spam be gone.
Suzanne @ 397
i thought it was pig latin or something, lol.
Marcy’s post – Being Chuck Schumer - suggests to me that the Dems have consulted Constitutional Lawyers & Presidential Lawyers and are building an ironclad case agin Shrub & Co.
Petrocelli @ 387
I don’t know what they say, but Bush & Cheney were both joined at the hip in a number of high crimes & misdemeanors, e.g.
* Outing Valerie Plame
* Authorizing the illegal NSA spying scheme without DOJ sign-off
* and I’m sure many more. Maybe we need to create a special place for priming that pump.
Bob in HI
Petrocelli @ 395
Many a fine Neocon hath trod it’s hallowed halls!!! ;)
CTuttle @ 402
… with cloven hooves, no doubt …
CTuttle @ 393
I don’t know enough to ask the right questions. Check out what we’ve got up so far and see what you can think of.
Thanks,
Bob in HI
Petrocelli @ 399
That has been my impression ever since the nsa story broke. Tribe and Fien among others making the case and building momentum for oversight.
Petrocelli @ 402
707!!! The Perfect Storm is brewing, numerous Lows are converging for the Mother of all Nor’Easters, on a path headed for the 495 Beltway!!!
Bob Schacht @ 403
Wilco!!!
Bob Schacht @ 403
I posted this comment to Tired Fed in the last thread – … I’m so inspired by you, Marcy and the rest that I’m going to be asking my acquaintances if they know Preet Bahara (Chuck Schumer’s ass’t) and get these lists to him.
Petrocelli @ 407
Good Point!!!
CTuttle @ 408
Yeah, I didn’t know anything about her.
CTuttle @ 408
I’m almost certain Leahy, Waxman & Co. read this blogs, but it won’t hurt to remind them about these lists.
tw3k @ 409
Do you mean Jeralyn? Preet is a guy. If you saw the AGAG hearings, he was the guy behind Schumer’s left shoulder, IIRC.
*hint* He’s brown and looked really, really p*ssed.
tw3k @ 409
Notice, that was written prior to the first hearing, and after all the variations of ‘I Don’t Recall’, no Gotchas and a whole lot of frustrated Congress Critters, later, we’re where we started, de ja vu, all over again!!!
Petrocelli @ 411
Na, i meant Preet, D’oh!
CTuttle @ 412
I was here at the live blogging for AGAG’s hearing in front of Leahy & Co. and one (or more) attorney commented that Abu had perjured himself a couple of times.
TDS had clips to substantiate that claim of perjury.
Petrocelli @ 414
True, but, Where’s The Beef?!!! Even if 100 Senators state they have lost confidence in AGAG, He will still remain AG!!!
CTuttle @ 415
Can they not impeach him? I thought that was where Schumer was leading, but giving Abu the chance to resign or Bush first dibs on firing him.
Petrocelli @ 414
Good!
The executive seems to be so dug-in defending it-self around a single theory. If a common man such as myself can see the faults in that defense I’m sure the attorneys are having a hay day.
Well Gents, it’s 5 a.m. in Toronto. It’s been great as always.
G’nite CTuttle, Suz, Firepups … until we meet again …
Petrocelli @ 416
True Justice would be subverted, either; Scotus, and/or, Republican Senators, would kill any chance for a Frog March of AGAG!!!
gn Petrocelli
Petrocelli @ 418
Morning, the Kona Coffee is great, Ta, ta…
Time for this tired pup to head off to bed. G’nite all.
Suzanne @ 422
G’nite Ma’am, and ditto; Aloha Oe to the Lake!!!
guess it time to catch up on articles :)
Suggestions for Dan:
When I first emigrated to Ireland I too had no credit rating. I did have a bit of savings, but not enough to buy a used car. But if you buy a new car, dealerships give out loans a bit easier. The rates aren’t as good, but if you get a cheap new car it can work well.
Another option – it’s only 10-15 miles. Several of my co-workers here in Ireland cycle that distance to work. You could cycle to public transport if such a thing exists. I wouldn’t advise cycling the full distance in the full-on Texas heat, but outside of that range it might be an idea.
In the meantime cars have running expenses. Figure out how much insurance, taxes, gas and repairs will cost and tuck that away (and more) each month. If anything maybe you could use a stash like that to pay the deposit for a place closer to work.
Oh, and build a credit rating. Get a credit card or a store card. Get a small loan from your bank. You could also talk with your bank manager about putting any savings you do have in accounts that would earn you better interest.
Petrocelli @ 385
Ann Coulter wrote an “interesting” book in which she made a very convincing case that “High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” include all bad deportment. There are indications that the notion includes what the Brits call “High Treason,” which indluces “maladministration of high office.”
PLovering @ 46
Yeah, we need tough prisons because this is an everyday occurrence, right? I mean, this sort of crime is the rule rather than the exception, isn’t it? Idiot.
Wigwam @ 426
Rosencrantz: Foul! No non sequiturs! Three… two, one game all.
gah, she really did wite a book, but not about the current maladministration.
tw3k @ 429
Yes, what she had in mind was felatio in the Oval Office, mere trivia compared to the matters now at hand.
Wigwam @ 430
Makes my head hurt. She is pure marketing.
There was an announcement about 6-8 years ago that Oprah was doing a foundation to help folks lik Dan-similar to microloans~Dan’s situation is very common- can have job but not enough $$ to have car to get to job-cycle continues. Never really heard more on the Oprah thing but had stopped national news shorthly thereafter-now no tv so dont know. maybe google micrloans & texas-hahahaha
what about a moped or small motorcycle-less upkeep overhead
ruffian @ 433
better gas mileage too
Good morning, pups. It’s MoDo, Friedman and Rich in the NYT today. MoDo shows us Wolfie’s resume, Friedman says we’ve got to play the hand we’ve dealt in Iran, and Rich has words about Falwell.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Coffee and tea are all ready, and the French toast is all hot and ready. Vermont maple syrup, anyone?
mmmmmmmm…..
Harley(and probably other motorcycle dealerships)have riding courses,some are free,some aren’t. The biker community can be quite generous,it’s not just for outlaws anymore. My dentist is a biker,so is my husband.
If Dan has to take major highways to get to work,a moped/scooter type thing won’t be legal or safe.
anangryoldbroad @ 437
also fixing up/maintaining an old harley could have a therapeutic effect.
tw3k @ 438
Perhaps…
http://www.virtualschool.edu/m…..PirsigZen/
Blank Kludge @ 439
exactly!
Thanks for the link! :)
mornin’ all,
thanks for the french toast Marion ! now off to see if I can catch up w/ threads as work interferred more than usual this week X(
Pachachutec – wrt Dan – Rayne may be on to something with St Vinnie, also local United Way – and although Channel View was spared Rita’s wrath, there maybe some vestigial $$ lying about – and if he hasn’t already, and he works for a large enough company (extraction, shipping,) they may have an employee assistance fund
tw3k @ 427
With all due respect, I think “evil” works better in your comment than “marketing”.
Oh. and good morning all! (I feel like Gene Kelly et al in that movie…I forget.
anyway, it would deserve repeating if already in the 400-odd previous:
TSF comments on the WaPo Ashcroft saves the Constitution from hospital bed thing they ran.
The TSFman is perspicacious. And tenacious, too.
Mornin’ all!
So much for the cease-fire: Israel launches new airstrikes on Hamas
Broder.Crazy.Again.
Read the article if you must, but the fun is in reading the comments section!
Another visit to the woodshed for this kook.
Blank Kludge @ 443
He’s all over the WaPo comments section re:Broder, also!
Gingrich: Challenge ‘Radical Secularism’
New thread…
STTP in Ohio @ 447
WaPo staff must be feeling like Butch and Sundance unable to avoid Lord Baltimore and Joe Lafors. “Who ARE these guys!?”
In the WaPo reading room: “Who IS this guy?!”
I wish you had put up a fundraiser button. We could have raised money for used car for the guy by now. I know I would pitch in.
Singing in the Rain (wanted to contribute something)
Barbara @ 451
If you want to kick in some kitty, just email me. I’ll figure out a way to facilitate.
tw3k @ 438
I’m with you on the therapeutic part but Harleys are not cheap and while they may make good projects, that may not make for good transportation. There would also be a considerable outlay for tools to do anything serious.
Also a Harley is *not* a beginners bike. I’d suggest something like a used SV650 or maybe a KLR if he wants to do some dirt riding as well. There are lots of them around so parts are available. The BMW F series are reasonable too (for Beemers) and can be had with ABS, which is good for newbies.
I’ve come in extremely late on this discussion, but on NOW with David Broncaccio a segment on a program in Houston, TX, called “Earn a Bike.” It’s primarily a program for kids, who learn to fix bikes there. But, they do put together bikes and give them to people who need them for transportation.
Riding a bike 10 to 15 miles to work is not impossible. In fact, if your friend visits BikeForums.net and checks out the Commuter form, he will find many other folks who regularly commute much farther than that every day.
Though I have the fortune to work at home, I don’t have a car, and bicycle most everywhere.
Bless you Richard – in his later years he spoke out so eloquently about the horrific treatment and the slavery type conditions that elephants are subjected to in circuses.