Adie @ 18

Good one LHP!

I buried something deep in EPU-land this morning because we were leaving the house & I couldn’t wait for the new threads to start appearing.

Besides, your post seems tailor-made. THANKS!

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Please see video and commentary at the following links:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html
http://www.commondreams.org/ar…..05/02/906/
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..-it-again/

These links are all abbreviated and won’t work– please fix!

Bob in HI

APOLOGIES! Please check my “fix” at my #39
Thanks. -A

I keep getting knifed for reminding the IMPEACH NOW!!11!!1!! crowd over at DK that 17 Republicans must vote “aye” to impeach their War Preznit, no matter how many marchers fill the streets, write LTE’s or write angst-filled diaries about Democrats abandoning principles because they don’t IMPEACH NOW!!11!!1!!

Clearly this is priming the pump. The longer AGAG smirks and lies to judiciary committees and keeps his job, the more inept this Administration looks on every single issue (pick one! any one! lots to choose from!). November 2008 is a clarion call that becomes louder and more urgent with every passing headline. If only it didn’t cost us our military in the process, I’d be singing sweet refrains.

-GFO

from the BBC

1) no-confidence in gonzales is achievable. thinking that would be any kind of indicator on impeaching the chimporer is flawed – the two are apples and oranges. Given today’s party-over-country republican, conviction is not likely no matter what without a minimum of 67 dem senators. Therefore, impeachment (with or without conviction) serves a different purpose: to start to begin to re-establish the credibility of the US.

2) you ignore a fundamental problem the US currently has – that without impeachment in the case where it was actually intended we are left with only politically motivated impeachment. This undercuts the whole purpose of impeachment: to protect the people from a criminal executive. It incapacitates the ability of any Congress to protect the people from criminals. In light of our current history of only 2 politically-motivated impeachments, history would write an impeachment of bush as a CONTRAST where it was actually warranted (regardless of whether or not conviction is achieved) and a validation of the whole concept and purpose of the constitutional capability.

3) the crimes of bush, cheney, and their whole administration are extensive and obvious. A failure to convict would only be an indictment of republicans displaying their loyalty to party over the people. On the contrary, the failure of democrats to bring impeachment (which is both a failure to uphold the constitution and a failure to protect the people from criminals) is an indictment of democrats and an enforcement of a view of democrats as unprincipled.
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Hi Kathleen,

I think we’re in EPU mode now. saw your posts and think everyone would agree with the diagnosis. But we can’t diagnose someone out of office unfortunately.

for more Bush crack go here (I’m no Tucker Carlson fan but I remember this story)
Tucker interviews Bush, gets blowback

I Understand that the professionals here at FDL can not diagnose out of office. But I am a peasant,farmer, soccer mom…so I can. Thanks for the nod!

What terrifies me beyond this group of radical zealots is the complacency and comfort level of so many Americans. As the Iraqi people die in the hundreds of thousands ( up to millions if you count the sanctions) and millions are displaced. How different is this to the complacency of so many as Jews, gypsies, handicapped and others were slaughtered by Hitler? How different is this? Wake up America. There is a systematic genocide taking place in Iraq and we created the perfect enviroment for it to take place.

I’m going to look for the Dean book, Woodhollow. Thanks.

going to sign off now. hugs to all firedogs.

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