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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-701813</link>
		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 10:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is not about illegal surveillance, but about how some things have changed for the worse in the Rethuglican Party and how some have remained the same, particularly the religious wingnuts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dumbya’s grandfather, Prescott, had a different perspective on some social issues than his fanatic grandson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Bush was a typical New England Republican of his time; as a former banker, he was a pro-business conservative, but held many positions today considered socially moderate. Conservatives distrusted and at times openly opposed him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. Bush was also an early supporter of the United Negro College Fund, serving as chairman of the Connecticut branch in 1951.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Prescott&quot;&gt;http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Prescott&lt;/a&gt; bush&amp;gwp=13&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Bush’s ties with Planned Parenthood also hurt him in heavily Catholic Connecticut, and were the basis of a last-minute campaign in churches by Bush’s opponents; the family vigorously denied the connection, but Bush lost to Benton by only 1,000 votes.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would like to see some non-douchebag MSM journalist interviewer, there might be one or two, ask both the RP candidates and baby Bush what they think about this type of Republican?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But that type seems to have disappeared to be replaced by the greasy Rethuglican crowd of today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about illegal surveillance, but about how some things have changed for the worse in the Rethuglican Party and how some have remained the same, particularly the religious wingnuts.</p>
<p>Dumbya’s grandfather, Prescott, had a different perspective on some social issues than his fanatic grandson.</p>
<p>“Bush was a typical New England Republican of his time; as a former banker, he was a pro-business conservative, but held many positions today considered socially moderate. Conservatives distrusted and at times openly opposed him.</p>
<p>Bush was involved with the American Birth Control League as early as 1942, and served as the treasurer of the first national capital campaign of Planned Parenthood in 1947. Bush was also an early supporter of the United Negro College Fund, serving as chairman of the Connecticut branch in 1951.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Prescott">http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Prescott</a> bush&amp;gwp=13</p>
<p>“Bush’s ties with Planned Parenthood also hurt him in heavily Catholic Connecticut, and were the basis of a last-minute campaign in churches by Bush’s opponents; the family vigorously denied the connection, but Bush lost to Benton by only 1,000 votes.”</p>
<p>I would like to see some non-douchebag MSM journalist interviewer, there might be one or two, ask both the RP candidates and baby Bush what they think about this type of Republican?</p>
<p>But that type seems to have disappeared to be replaced by the greasy Rethuglican crowd of today.</p>
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		<title>By: Kairos in Cal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700831</link>
		<dc:creator>Kairos in Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-700093&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;landofthefree @ 11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe we should elect a Democrat for President next time. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, let’s do that. And let’s also make sure that the GOP-run WH isn’t spying on their political enemies in the runup to the election. Let’s make sure there are no voting shenanigans with these unreliable Diebold machines and backroom vote counting by Republicans only. I guess waht I’m saying is that we should make sure the 2008 election isn’t like the 2004 election.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;—–&lt;br /&gt;
See Palast article at BuzzWatch saying that Rove has already stolen 08 and how to steal it back from him/them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-700093"><em>landofthefree @ 11</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>Maybe we should elect a Democrat for President next time. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, let’s do that. And let’s also make sure that the GOP-run WH isn’t spying on their political enemies in the runup to the election. Let’s make sure there are no voting shenanigans with these unreliable Diebold machines and backroom vote counting by Republicans only. I guess waht I’m saying is that we should make sure the 2008 election isn’t like the 2004 election.</p>
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<p>—–<br />
See Palast article at BuzzWatch saying that Rove has already stolen 08 and how to steal it back from him/them.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700409</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-700224&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 111&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;EPU’d, with “moderate” assistance from Suzanne (please don’t “quote this comment” as it trips the filters):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;current Harper’s Magazine (&lt;a href=&quot;http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06&quot;&gt;June issue&lt;/a&gt;) cover story:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;“Undoing Bush: How to Repair Eight Years of Sabotage, Bungling, and Neglect”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(subscription firewall, sorry). brief excerpts:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…he has taken a prosperous nation and mired it in war, replaced our national composure with terror, and left behind him a legacy of damage so profound that repairing it will likely be the work of generations…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…the Constitution at the end of Bush’s two terms is much the worse for wear. For a short parlor game, ask your friends to name a constitutional right that that Bush has &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; sought to undermine. After the right to bear arms and the guarantee against the quartering of soldiers, the game will be over. Those who prefer a longer game can reverse the exercise, but be prepared for an extended and dispiriting evening…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;he just hasnt gotten to the “quartering of soldiers” yet. he will.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-700224"><em>punaise @ 111</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>EPU’d, with “moderate” assistance from Suzanne (please don’t “quote this comment” as it trips the filters):</p>
<p>current Harper’s Magazine (<a href="http://harpers.org/archive/2007/06">June issue</a>) cover story:</p>
<p><b>“Undoing Bush: How to Repair Eight Years of Sabotage, Bungling, and Neglect”</b></p>
<p>(subscription firewall, sorry). brief excerpts:</p>
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…he has taken a prosperous nation and mired it in war, replaced our national composure with terror, and left behind him a legacy of damage so profound that repairing it will likely be the work of generations…</p>
<p>…the Constitution at the end of Bush’s two terms is much the worse for wear. For a short parlor game, ask your friends to name a constitutional right that that Bush has <em>not</em> sought to undermine. After the right to bear arms and the guarantee against the quartering of soldiers, the game will be over. Those who prefer a longer game can reverse the exercise, but be prepared for an extended and dispiriting evening…
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<p>he just hasnt gotten to the “quartering of soldiers” yet. he will.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700334</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-700133&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frank Wilhoit @ 41&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Finally starting to get it, just a little bit.  Never look at the storyteller, always look at the audience.  Mr. Bush originates nothing.  He is a figurehead of the propaganda machine.  He does and says exactly and only what the machine requires him to do and say.  The nomination will go to whichever candidate does the best job of channeling the propaganda machine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agreed.  Bush has proved beyond all the doubt that the model Republican candidate is a combination of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion in the Wizard of Oz - no brain, no heart and no courage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-700133"><em>Frank Wilhoit @ 41</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Finally starting to get it, just a little bit.  Never look at the storyteller, always look at the audience.  Mr. Bush originates nothing.  He is a figurehead of the propaganda machine.  He does and says exactly and only what the machine requires him to do and say.  The nomination will go to whichever candidate does the best job of channeling the propaganda machine.</p>
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<p>Agreed.  Bush has proved beyond all the doubt that the model Republican candidate is a combination of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion in the Wizard of Oz &#8211; no brain, no heart and no courage.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700321</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Looseheadprop is upstairs: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/no-confidence-priming-the-pump/&quot;&gt;No Confidence — Priming the Pump&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looseheadprop is upstairs: <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/no-confidence-priming-the-pump/">No Confidence — Priming the Pump</a></p>
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		<title>By: do-si-do</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700309</link>
		<dc:creator>do-si-do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello firepups, still trying to catch up…My view of GOP for a long time is summed up in one quote from Syriana:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Corruption is what makes us winners!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The most important thing to that Fox audience is being a &lt;b&gt;winner&lt;/b&gt;.  That is the only lens available. We’re &lt;b&gt;winners&lt;/b&gt;, not losers who care about other people, care about the environment, or anything other than our bank account.  The only scorecard is the bank account.  Rules are for the other guy.  I’m busy &lt;b&gt;winning&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is why it drives Gop’ers crazy when they see a rich Democrat.  Cognitive dissonance.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello firepups, still trying to catch up…My view of GOP for a long time is summed up in one quote from Syriana:</p>
<p>“Corruption is what makes us winners!”</p>
<p>The most important thing to that Fox audience is being a <b>winner</b>.  That is the only lens available. We’re <b>winners</b>, not losers who care about other people, care about the environment, or anything other than our bank account.  The only scorecard is the bank account.  Rules are for the other guy.  I’m busy <b>winning</b>.</p>
<p>That is why it drives Gop’ers crazy when they see a rich Democrat.  Cognitive dissonance.</p>
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		<title>By: njr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700306</link>
		<dc:creator>njr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Frank Probst @ 80: excellent post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Probst @ 80: excellent post.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700303</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-700225&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Michael in Park Slope @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rayne @ 87 said:&lt;br /&gt;
If HRC were to survive the primary, she would not only have to make it through a highly energized fundie base to be elected and their regular and &lt;b&gt;systematic efforts afterwards to remain in office. It would be oversight like we’ve never seen before&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which, in my opinion, is an extremely important reason to not only concentrate on the WH in ‘08, but to keep a close eye on holding both houses of congress, as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-MS&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My personal goal is to concentrate on the Senate.  We absolutely must have a veto-proof Senate, no matter who is president.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-700225"><em>Michael in Park Slope @ 113</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Rayne @ 87 said:<br />
If HRC were to survive the primary, she would not only have to make it through a highly energized fundie base to be elected and their regular and <b>systematic efforts afterwards to remain in office. It would be oversight like we’ve never seen before</b>. </p>
<p>Which, in my opinion, is an extremely important reason to not only concentrate on the WH in ‘08, but to keep a close eye on holding both houses of congress, as well.</p>
<p>-MS</p>
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<p>My personal goal is to concentrate on the Senate.  We absolutely must have a veto-proof Senate, no matter who is president.</p>
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		<title>By: RickinSF</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700297</link>
		<dc:creator>RickinSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard, or read, some “conservatives” recommend that GOP loyalists vote for Clinton. After all, they reason, the GOP is going down and HRC is the Democrat least likely to upset the BushCo agenda.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I cannot cite where I heard this, but I know I didn’t make it up. It makes sense to me, though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard, or read, some “conservatives” recommend that GOP loyalists vote for Clinton. After all, they reason, the GOP is going down and HRC is the Democrat least likely to upset the BushCo agenda.</p>
<p>I cannot cite where I heard this, but I know I didn’t make it up. It makes sense to me, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/18/krugman-on-bushs-gop/#comment-700278</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-700271&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;punaise @ 124&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I missed the discussion, but landofthefree is no troll in my book&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What punaise said.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-700271"><em>punaise @ 124</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I missed the discussion, but landofthefree is no troll in my book</p>
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<p>What punaise said.</p>
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