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		<title>By: RickinSF</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-700943</link>
		<dc:creator>RickinSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I haven’t read all the posts, but I saw no mention that Melanie Morgan was the one Spocko did his “intervention” with last winter. He’d emailed links of her program to advertisers, several of whom dropped her.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She went nutso over it, natch, as did her boss/husband.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t read all the posts, but I saw no mention that Melanie Morgan was the one Spocko did his “intervention” with last winter. He’d emailed links of her program to advertisers, several of whom dropped her.</p>
<p>She went nutso over it, natch, as did her boss/husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Dickson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-700939</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Dickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Soltz was great! But please, TRex… Not good to criticize the woman for making an &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; attack Soltz, and then turn around and make your own &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; attack against her based on her physical appearance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Each &lt;em&gt;Bike Week&lt;/em&gt; here in Central Florida bikers gather at a particular bar to watch scantily-clad women wrestle one another in a large pit filled with cole slaw.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it! &lt;b&gt;No one&lt;/b&gt; can claim the moral high ground while wrestling in a pit filled with skanky cole slaw. Best to stay out of the pit while criticizing others for low, non-rational, and nasty behavior.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soltz was great! But please, TRex… Not good to criticize the woman for making an <em>ad hominem</em> attack Soltz, and then turn around and make your own <em>ad hominem</em> attack against her based on her physical appearance.</p>
<p>Each <em>Bike Week</em> here in Central Florida bikers gather at a particular bar to watch scantily-clad women wrestle one another in a large pit filled with cole slaw.</p>
<p>Think about it! <b>No one</b> can claim the moral high ground while wrestling in a pit filled with skanky cole slaw. Best to stay out of the pit while criticizing others for low, non-rational, and nasty behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: jakebob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-700891</link>
		<dc:creator>jakebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-699380&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 20&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;TRex!&lt;br /&gt;
love your write up on Morgana, I witnessed that shocking display myself. lord amighty!  What was Woodruff thinking?  (guess nothing, eh?)
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…kinda late, but that’s the time zone I’m in (HI)… &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;naaaah, Judy rocks! she/PBS deliberately set that one up to show what kind of pressure our congresscritters are getting from wingers of both sides. So whose fault is it Soltz was as much a gentleman as could be expected, and Morgan, welll, did her thing? I was half expecting Miz Judy to say, ‘calm down kids, this ain’t F*X you’re on’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-699380"><em>Elliott @ 20</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>TRex!<br />
love your write up on Morgana, I witnessed that shocking display myself. lord amighty!  What was Woodruff thinking?  (guess nothing, eh?)
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<p>…kinda late, but that’s the time zone I’m in (HI)… </p>
<p>naaaah, Judy rocks! she/PBS deliberately set that one up to show what kind of pressure our congresscritters are getting from wingers of both sides. So whose fault is it Soltz was as much a gentleman as could be expected, and Morgan, welll, did her thing? I was half expecting Miz Judy to say, ‘calm down kids, this ain’t F*X you’re on’.</p>
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		<title>By: MaryCh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-700638</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryCh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know it’s an old point, but W was a cheerleader, not an athlete.  He never got to hear the Coach say “don’t say anything to motivate your opponent,” nevermind “there is no ‘i’ in team” or “respect every team, fear none…”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it’s an old point, but W was a cheerleader, not an athlete.  He never got to hear the Coach say “don’t say anything to motivate your opponent,” nevermind “there is no ‘i’ in team” or “respect every team, fear none…”</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Joe Liebling&#8217;s Dog</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-700145</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost of Joe Liebling&#8217;s Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-699433&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-699389&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dana @ 27&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My goodness, an actual ombudsman.  I wonder if WaPo saw/heard that story.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before he came to the PBS position, Getler WAS the ombudsman at the WaPo. They know him quite well, and the serious journalists there probably miss him. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deb Howell, OTOH . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getler begins this column with comments on “Bill Moyers Journal” and about midway through he writes (my emphasis):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Now, there is no doubt that this segment was set up to hammer away, and if you are a Bush administration supporter you are not going to like it and it will seem unfair. On the other hand, &lt;b&gt;nobody else in the press seems to be doing much these days in terms of fact-checking and challenging administration statements&lt;/b&gt; in a prominent, detailed and timely fashion and, in my view, Moyers is providing a public service because these contradictory statements need to be heard because war is a factual and not a partisan matter. The administration gets to make its case virtually whenever it wants to.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once upon a time I would have imagined Getler’s former colleagues at the Post would have to have noticed &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;, but these days who really knows? The Posties, by and large, barely seem conscious enough to roll over and pass gas. Still, maybe some of them were paying attention and &lt;strike&gt;told the others&lt;/strike&gt; will mention it in a book years from now. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;God only knows who’ll tell the Times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With kind regards,&lt;br /&gt;
Dog, &amp;c.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;dog knows i tried&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-699433"><em>Peterr @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-699389"><em>Dana @ 27</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>My goodness, an actual ombudsman.  I wonder if WaPo saw/heard that story.</p>
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<p>Before he came to the PBS position, Getler WAS the ombudsman at the WaPo. They know him quite well, and the serious journalists there probably miss him. </p>
<p>Deb Howell, OTOH . . .</p>
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<p>Getler begins this column with comments on “Bill Moyers Journal” and about midway through he writes (my emphasis):</p>
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Now, there is no doubt that this segment was set up to hammer away, and if you are a Bush administration supporter you are not going to like it and it will seem unfair. On the other hand, <b>nobody else in the press seems to be doing much these days in terms of fact-checking and challenging administration statements</b> in a prominent, detailed and timely fashion and, in my view, Moyers is providing a public service because these contradictory statements need to be heard because war is a factual and not a partisan matter. The administration gets to make its case virtually whenever it wants to.
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<p>Once upon a time I would have imagined Getler’s former colleagues at the Post would have to have noticed <i>that</i>, but these days who really knows? The Posties, by and large, barely seem conscious enough to roll over and pass gas. Still, maybe some of them were paying attention and <strike>told the others</strike> will mention it in a book years from now. </p>
<p>God only knows who’ll tell the Times.</p>
<p>With kind regards,<br />
Dog, &amp;c.<br />
<i>dog knows i tried</i></p>
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		<title>By: Moon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 14:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Melanie, Melanie, Melanie…….It just doesn’t look good for an over 50 year old women having BJ lips. Were you also wearing Eff Me pumps? What would the grandchildren think? I think you should sue your plastic surgeon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melanie, Melanie, Melanie…….It just doesn’t look good for an over 50 year old women having BJ lips. Were you also wearing Eff Me pumps? What would the grandchildren think? I think you should sue your plastic surgeon.</p>
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		<title>By: At Work</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-699874</link>
		<dc:creator>At Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post, especially the link to the PBS Ombudsman.  I didn’t know who Morgan was, but I was stunned and later disgusted that such a person was on the show.  It wasn’t even the rudeness so much as the utter lack of substance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Much later I thought, this is all that’s left of the Pro War movement.  This is actually a good thing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post, especially the link to the PBS Ombudsman.  I didn’t know who Morgan was, but I was stunned and later disgusted that such a person was on the show.  It wasn’t even the rudeness so much as the utter lack of substance.</p>
<p>Much later I thought, this is all that’s left of the Pro War movement.  This is actually a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 09:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;unrelated to content — I like that at least part of the transcript is shown. I’d love to see more of this. I’m deaf so can’t appreciate the You Tube presentations unless there’s a transcript.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unrelated to content — I like that at least part of the transcript is shown. I’d love to see more of this. I’m deaf so can’t appreciate the You Tube presentations unless there’s a transcript.</p>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 09:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morgan is a good example of a quote from John Stuart Mill,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_stuart_mill.html&quot;&gt;http://www.brainyquote.com/quo....._mill.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan is a good example of a quote from John Stuart Mill,</p>
<p>“Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_stuart_mill.html">http://www.brainyquote.com/quo&#8230;.._mill.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/17/late-nite-fdl-and-dont-come-back/#comment-699846</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 09:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“MELANIE MORGAN: We are a pro-troop organization, as well.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;NOPE. These non-combatants support THE POLICY –&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;not the troops.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush’s attendence of military funerals?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, which is now a shrine to his neglect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“MELANIE MORGAN: We are a pro-troop organization, as well.”</p>
<p><b>NOPE. These non-combatants support THE POLICY –</b></p>
<p>not the troops.</p>
<p>Bush’s attendence of military funerals?</p>
<p>One.</p>
<p>Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, which is now a shrine to his neglect.</p>
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