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	<title>Comments on: Seeing Jose Padilla for the first time</title>
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		<title>By: Irina</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698493</link>
		<dc:creator>Irina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wiki leaves out a lot of information on political entries - and is very, very often censored.  Rigorous Intuition and a very few other sites trace and track SOME of the “edits” or ongoing censorship.  I have often learned things on FDL, like the fact that Guiliani has an anthrax clean up company that was awarded the contract to really “clean up” any damaging information along with the anthrax that was sent to the National Enquier and Rudy’s cleanup crew accidently destroyed decades of files and photos in their archive warehouse.  Don’t believe that would be on wiki.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Walkers father had ties to CIA. Was he exploited the way that Hinkley’s brother was by US intelligence services. Did not know that Padilla’s brother was a CIA asset until I read it above and will check to see if wiki has included this interesting tidbit and if they have, I wonder how long it will last.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Asian shoot at Va Tech has a sister who is a part of a US intelligence NGO now doing work in Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki leaves out a lot of information on political entries &#8211; and is very, very often censored.  Rigorous Intuition and a very few other sites trace and track SOME of the “edits” or ongoing censorship.  I have often learned things on FDL, like the fact that Guiliani has an anthrax clean up company that was awarded the contract to really “clean up” any damaging information along with the anthrax that was sent to the National Enquier and Rudy’s cleanup crew accidently destroyed decades of files and photos in their archive warehouse.  Don’t believe that would be on wiki.</p>
<p>Walkers father had ties to CIA. Was he exploited the way that Hinkley’s brother was by US intelligence services. Did not know that Padilla’s brother was a CIA asset until I read it above and will check to see if wiki has included this interesting tidbit and if they have, I wonder how long it will last.</p>
<p>The Asian shoot at Va Tech has a sister who is a part of a US intelligence NGO now doing work in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: cheebus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698464</link>
		<dc:creator>cheebus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The pic of Padilla on my page has been whited out except for a strip at the top!&lt;br /&gt;
Curiouser and curiouser….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pic of Padilla on my page has been whited out except for a strip at the top!<br />
Curiouser and curiouser….</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698451</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-697991&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lew Koch @ 213&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strike&gt;TeddySanFran #207&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I understand your concern about the use of the word “thug” but in this case it is most appropriate. I was on a police beat for a year and after that, covered many gang related stories for the local NBC News station, WMAQ-TV. The Latin Kings was a gang, among many gangs who indeed ruthlessly ruled their small turf. They terrified those who lived in the neighborhood. This is not to say — once a thug, always a thug. In a later column I will go into what I think were the psychological motives that moved Padilla in the direction he finally found.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Latin Kings were big in my hometown.  I sigh just a little whenever they get hyped. Padilla was an  &lt;em&gt;ex-King&lt;/em&gt;. As for the psychological motives, Jail has always been a place for proselytization.  I urge anyone to read an article entitled &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.uoregon.edu/org/olr/archives/81/81_Or_L_Rev_1153.pdf&quot;&gt;Sight sound and Stereotype: The war on terrorism and it’s consequence for Latinos.(&lt;/a&gt;pdf). Here’s a snippet:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;A former FBI deputy director of counterterrorism made the leaps from Latina/o ethnicity to Latina/o gang membership to terrorism seem like baby steps in contending: “if you look at Padilla’s background—Puerto Rican, gang member , time in prison, convert to Islam—what you see is a potential resource for Al Quaeda.” Because the public views Latinas/os of all origins, particularly Mexican Americans and Puerto Ricans as gang members, this association of gangbangers and terrorists provides yet another societal linkage between Latinas/os and terrorism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let’s deconstruct allready. Please.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-697991"><em>Lew Koch @ 213</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><strike>TeddySanFran #207</strike></p>
<p>I understand your concern about the use of the word “thug” but in this case it is most appropriate. I was on a police beat for a year and after that, covered many gang related stories for the local NBC News station, WMAQ-TV. The Latin Kings was a gang, among many gangs who indeed ruthlessly ruled their small turf. They terrified those who lived in the neighborhood. This is not to say — once a thug, always a thug. In a later column I will go into what I think were the psychological motives that moved Padilla in the direction he finally found.</p>
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<p>The Latin Kings were big in my hometown.  I sigh just a little whenever they get hyped. Padilla was an  <em>ex-King</em>. As for the psychological motives, Jail has always been a place for proselytization.  I urge anyone to read an article entitled <a href="http://www.law.uoregon.edu/org/olr/archives/81/81_Or_L_Rev_1153.pdf">Sight sound and Stereotype: The war on terrorism and it’s consequence for Latinos.(</a>pdf). Here’s a snippet:</p>
<blockquote><p>A former FBI deputy director of counterterrorism made the leaps from Latina/o ethnicity to Latina/o gang membership to terrorism seem like baby steps in contending: “if you look at Padilla’s background—Puerto Rican, gang member , time in prison, convert to Islam—what you see is a potential resource for Al Quaeda.” Because the public views Latinas/os of all origins, particularly Mexican Americans and Puerto Ricans as gang members, this association of gangbangers and terrorists provides yet another societal linkage between Latinas/os and terrorism.</p>
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<p>Let’s deconstruct allready. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: chuteh</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuteh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 18:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:TeddySF@119–&quot;&gt;TeddySF@119–&lt;/a&gt; the Chief Justice who was a drug addict for years while at SCOTUS…needs to be better known to aappreciate elite corrupthink.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:TeddySF@119–">TeddySF@119–</a> the Chief Justice who was a drug addict for years while at SCOTUS…needs to be better known to aappreciate elite corrupthink.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;196 pow wow says: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;May 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pm &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to proud dad’s daughter Rachel M.! A new asset is about to join the fight to reclaim our Constitution and to make our laws and international treaties worth the paper they’re printed on. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seconded! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>196 pow wow says: </p>
<blockquote><p>May 16th, 2007 at 9:48 pm </p>
<p>Congratulations to proud dad’s daughter Rachel M.! A new asset is about to join the fight to reclaim our Constitution and to make our laws and international treaties worth the paper they’re printed on. </p>
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<p>Seconded! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698322</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry. Should have been clearer. It was corrected in response to a criticism in the comments–not in the article itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. Should have been clearer. It was corrected in response to a criticism in the comments–not in the article itself.</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698300</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Audrey, there’s been no correction.  He was arrested on May 8th, 2002, but that date is not one month shy of the one year anniversary of the WTC collapse.  That date would be August 11, 2002.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audrey, there’s been no correction.  He was arrested on May 8th, 2002, but that date is not one month shy of the one year anniversary of the WTC collapse.  That date would be August 11, 2002.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698294</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-698263&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;moe99 @ 216&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;On May 8, 2002, just one month shy of the first anniversary of searing tragedy of when terrorists brought down the World Trade Center&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think this date is off by 4 months.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re right. It was corrected above. He was arrested on May 8. HTH&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-698263"><em>moe99 @ 216</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>On May 8, 2002, just one month shy of the first anniversary of searing tragedy of when terrorists brought down the World Trade Center</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this date is off by 4 months.</p>
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<p>You’re right. It was corrected above. He was arrested on May 8. HTH</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698263</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;On May 8, 2002, just one month shy of the first anniversary of searing tragedy of when terrorists brought down the World Trade Center&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think this date is off by 4 months.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On May 8, 2002, just one month shy of the first anniversary of searing tragedy of when terrorists brought down the World Trade Center</p>
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<p>I think this date is off by 4 months.</p>
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		<title>By: QuakerGirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/16/seeing-jose-padilla-for-the-first-time/#comment-698084</link>
		<dc:creator>QuakerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I feel like the entire country has become the south of my childhood when the “wrong” people were targets no matter what and treated in the most inhumane way and the “right” people could literally commit murder and worse and it was covered up. Witnessing blacks getting shot in the back while running away from the police never left me. At seventeen I left the South never to return to live there again. This whole story could take place in a southern Louisiana town at any point in its history. Now my whole country has turned into 1950s southern justice. I left the South, I refuse to leave my country. Thank you for exposing this entire story. It needs to be kept in our faces.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like the entire country has become the south of my childhood when the “wrong” people were targets no matter what and treated in the most inhumane way and the “right” people could literally commit murder and worse and it was covered up. Witnessing blacks getting shot in the back while running away from the police never left me. At seventeen I left the South never to return to live there again. This whole story could take place in a southern Louisiana town at any point in its history. Now my whole country has turned into 1950s southern justice. I left the South, I refuse to leave my country. Thank you for exposing this entire story. It needs to be kept in our faces.</p>
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