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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695586</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694812&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 103&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694794&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 87&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694792&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m watching frontline… but it’s so good i forget to read fdl!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m having the opposite problem - having trouble focusing on Frontline while I’m commenting here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;me too, but I know they’ll roll it again late night.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can watch it again at any time on their website.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-694812"><em>Elliott @ 103</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-694794"><em>Eli @ 87</em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-694792"><em>selise @ 85</em></a></p>
<p>i’m watching frontline… but it’s so good i forget to read fdl!</p>
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<p>I’m having the opposite problem &#8211; having trouble focusing on Frontline while I’m commenting here.</p>
<p>me too, but I know they’ll roll it again late night.</p>
<p>You can watch it again at any time on their website.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695584</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694792&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 85&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694776&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 71&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I guess I picked the wrong horse with that Frontline special…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m watching frontline… but it’s so good i forget to read fdl!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FRONTLINE ROCKS!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-694792"><em>selise @ 85</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-694776"><em>Eli @ 71</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I guess I picked the wrong horse with that Frontline special…</p>
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<p>i’m watching frontline… but it’s so good i forget to read fdl!</p>
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<p>FRONTLINE ROCKS!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695573</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 07:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-695081&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alfred Kelgarries @ 363&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-695078&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 360&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prol’ly a good choice.  I think Gannet has done a splendid job in dumbing down all of their local papers in order to make USA Today look like a shining example of journalism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McClatchy is the one I’d pick. They’re driving the purgegate as we speak. they might eat this up…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McClatchy, HQ’d here in Sacto, has bought so many papers and groups in the last 3-5 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They’ve sold off some really bad performers, streamlined the papers and cut back on news and added ad space.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, they are still at the stage in their acquisitions where I think they WILL pursue news, look for big stories, anything that will help sell papers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McClatchy is a GREAT call. Good work AK!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-695081"><em>Alfred Kelgarries @ 363</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-695078"><em>dakine01 @ 360</em></a></p>
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<p>Prol’ly a good choice.  I think Gannet has done a splendid job in dumbing down all of their local papers in order to make USA Today look like a shining example of journalism.</p>
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<p>McClatchy is the one I’d pick. They’re driving the purgegate as we speak. they might eat this up…</p>
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<p>McClatchy, HQ’d here in Sacto, has bought so many papers and groups in the last 3-5 years.</p>
<p>They’ve sold off some really bad performers, streamlined the papers and cut back on news and added ad space.</p>
<p>But, they are still at the stage in their acquisitions where I think they WILL pursue news, look for big stories, anything that will help sell papers. </p>
<p>McClatchy is a GREAT call. Good work AK!</p>
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		<title>By: Nordman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695469</link>
		<dc:creator>Nordman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 05:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;. . . . uhhhhh, it was McNulty. Yeh, Yeh, that’s it. McNulty fired them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . . uhhhhh, it was McNulty. Yeh, Yeh, that’s it. McNulty fired them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunga Djinn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695228</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunga Djinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-694961&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alfred Kelgarries @ 247&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;from wiki:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For context, a femtosecond is to a second, what a second is to a hundred million years&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it’s 31.7 million years, not a hundred million years. It’s late, but that still looks wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-694961"><em>Alfred Kelgarries @ 247</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>from wiki:</p>
<p>For context, a femtosecond is to a second, what a second is to a hundred million years</p>
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<p>I think it’s 31.7 million years, not a hundred million years. It’s late, but that still looks wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mutant Poodle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695144</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutant Poodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This snark (from Bob Johnson at Daily Kos) is too good not &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/15/15527/2018&quot;&gt;to share&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Falwell blames ‘pagans, abortionists, gays, feminists, lesbians’ for death&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(ANS, The Afterlife) Echoing his comments made after 9-11 that the terrorist attack was caused by a litany of “evil forces,” the late Jerry Falwell said today from the afterlife that “pagans, abortionists, gays, feminists, lesbians, the ACLU, People for the American Way, Al Gore, Daily Kos and other immoral, liberal groups and individuals bear full responsibility for the heart attack that has claimed my earthly life.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Falwell went to add that, unlike his apology following his post-9-11 comments, he will “not be apologizing this time because there are no liberals where I’m going. So they can kiss my fat, dead ass.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s more, and it’s worth it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This snark (from Bob Johnson at Daily Kos) is too good not <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/15/15527/2018">to share</a>:
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<blockquote><p><b>Falwell blames ‘pagans, abortionists, gays, feminists, lesbians’ for death</b></p></blockquote>
<p>(ANS, The Afterlife) Echoing his comments made after 9-11 that the terrorist attack was caused by a litany of “evil forces,” the late Jerry Falwell said today from the afterlife that “pagans, abortionists, gays, feminists, lesbians, the ACLU, People for the American Way, Al Gore, Daily Kos and other immoral, liberal groups and individuals bear full responsibility for the heart attack that has claimed my earthly life.”</p>
<p>Falwell went to add that, unlike his apology following his post-9-11 comments, he will “not be apologizing this time because there are no liberals where I’m going. So they can kiss my fat, dead ass.”</p>
<p>There’s more, and it’s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695128</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-695080&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 362&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;And jayt, I do hope you will forgive my inner organizer’s crass search for treasure amidst your family’s peril.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I’d had any doubt of the quality and good intentions of the people to be found at this site, I’d had never brought it up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No worries.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks, jayt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;coming from you, that means a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_________&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;_________&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;welcome Suzanne!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“There’s so much water in the air that I’m coming into the kitchen to finish,”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-695080"><em>jayt @ 362</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><i>And jayt, I do hope you will forgive my inner organizer’s crass search for treasure amidst your family’s peril.</i></p>
<p>If I’d had any doubt of the quality and good intentions of the people to be found at this site, I’d had never brought it up.</p>
<p>No worries.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>thanks, jayt.</p>
<p>coming from you, that means a lot.</p>
<p>_________</p>
<p>_________</p>
<p>welcome Suzanne!</p>
<p><em>“There’s so much water in the air that I’m coming into the kitchen to finish,”</em></p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695121</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-695075&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 357&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;jayt, this needs WIDE publicity. would you okay some sort of precis of your experiences being slipstreamed to the media. NOBODY has highlighted this AFAIK and we NEED to.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GODDAMMIT. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[snip]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and so it begins.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alfred, thanks for your kindness - but with the Mockingbird project and NTK, even you may not know who among your spook contacts has a friend who has a friend…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looking at this from an organizer’s perpsective, I see two strategic goals:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Protect jayt and family.&lt;br /&gt;
Destroy private recruiting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;that whole duality thing&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Making private recruiting public knowledge is one of our objectives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our tactics for attaining that objective can be diverse.  We’re decentralized and autonomous at the Lake, so a diversity of tactics is likely to be the best fit for participants with heterogenous skils and backgrounds.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This makes a “parallel processing” form of media outreach really easy - and also establishes a nice parity among the folks casting their lines in the media pool…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;kirk, would you do the honors on this? my contacts are limited to intel weenies and a couple of blogs. I suspect yours are much better…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-695075"><em>jayt @ 357</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><i>jayt, this needs WIDE publicity. would you okay some sort of precis of your experiences being slipstreamed to the media. NOBODY has highlighted this AFAIK and we NEED to.</i></p>
<p>GODDAMMIT. </p>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p>[snip]</p>
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<p>and so it begins.</p>
<p>Alfred, thanks for your kindness &#8211; but with the Mockingbird project and NTK, even you may not know who among your spook contacts has a friend who has a friend…</p>
<p>Looking at this from an organizer’s perpsective, I see two strategic goals:</p>
<p>Protect jayt and family.<br />
Destroy private recruiting.</p>
<p><em>that whole duality thing<br />
</em></p>
<p>Making private recruiting public knowledge is one of our objectives.</p>
<p>Our tactics for attaining that objective can be diverse.  We’re decentralized and autonomous at the Lake, so a diversity of tactics is likely to be the best fit for participants with heterogenous skils and backgrounds.</p>
<p>This makes a “parallel processing” form of media outreach really easy &#8211; and also establishes a nice parity among the folks casting their lines in the media pool…</p>
<blockquote><p>kirk, would you do the honors on this? my contacts are limited to intel weenies and a couple of blogs. I suspect yours are much better…</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/is-our-ag-learning/#comment-695112</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/late-nite-fdl-ding-dong-and-all-that/&quot;&gt;TRex is&lt;/a&gt; upstairs (linkie that LL forgot)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/15/late-nite-fdl-ding-dong-and-all-that/">TRex is</a> upstairs (linkie that LL forgot)</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Kelgarries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred Kelgarries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 03:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-695094&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oilfieldguy @ 376&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I haven’t learned how to text from a rotary dial phone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;try this one:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=286&quot;&gt;http://www.sparkfun.com/commer.....cts_id=286&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-695094"><em>Oilfieldguy @ 376</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I haven’t learned how to text from a rotary dial phone.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>try this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=286">http://www.sparkfun.com/commer&#8230;..cts_id=286</a></p>
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