I brought in some cowpokes — erm, catpokes — to bring you the following tidbits:
– "Don't forget — FIRE the Vet!" Will General Paul Eaton be the next former high-ranking Pentagon dude to be summarily deleted from the GOP/Media Complex's speed dial lists and the Coalition of the Willing Bush Fluffers?
– Speaking of ornery Pentagon brass, sounds like the active-duty generals are thinking of the ultimate taboo for American military figures: Telling Bush to start a withdrawal from Iraq or face a revolt from the people who, unlike him, actually know what it's like to fight in a war. (As even conservative columnist Steve Chapman points out, it's not as if Republicans haven't 'cut and run' before.)
– By the way, as Siun mentioned earlier, you might want to call up the folks running for president and tell them to call Harry Reid and tell him to stop hiding behind procedure:
Obama: 202-224-2854
Clinton: 202-224-4451
Edwards: 919-636-3131
Richardson: 505-982-2291
Kucinich: 877-413-3664
Gravel: 703-652-4698
Reid needs to let the Feingold bill – the one that really would end the war – have a clean shot in the Senate, and not be spot-welded to a water bill that he knows full well the Republicans will filibuster to death. But the scuttlebutt is that a number of chickenshit Democrats — including some presidential candidates — don't want to go on record as voting for a clean end-the-war bill, so he's obliging them by attaching it to a bill that the Republicans will of course filibuster until (surprise, surprise!) the dreaded end-the-war measure is removed. That way, they have their cake and eat it, too: they can avoid going on record on the war and yet pretend that they really woulda voted for it if not for Those Mean Ole Republicans filibustering the bill.
Feingold-Reid deserves consideration on the floor of the Senate as a free-standing bill with a straight up or down vote — and the Democrats need to go on record, just as the Republicans do, one way or the other. If they really want Bush's damned war, make them say so – over and over again. Their corporate and neocon buddies might approve, but most of America won't — and they know that. By the way, you can call Reid, too: Phone his DC office here: 202-224-3542 (Fax: 202-224-7327); toll free # for Nevadans: 1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343). (P.S. – You don't need to call Chris Dodd; he's the guy who alerted us to this scam in the first place.)
– Why, oh why, are the members of the mainstream media so afraid of saying straight out that Fred Thompson's spent eighteen years as a lobbyist on Capitol Hill — more time than he's spent at any other career on his résumé?
– Proof that Matt Drudge still rules their world.
– Dammit, I'm sorry, and I know I've said this before, but Mitch McConnell looks like my grandma. Seriously. (Or would, if she were alive.) Just give him a wispy little-old-lady perm and wire rims and he is sooooo much my grandma. Except she was smarter. And nicer. (He also looks like Gary Bauer with cortisone injections everywhere but his daintily-pursed lips.) [UPDATE: Thanks to Dakine01, here's a picture of Mitch McConnell looking like my grandma if Grandma had long black hair instead of short brown -- later gray -- hair. Lovely!]
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Go Russ! Thanks siun!
Hi lolo…
Mitch McConnell?
Mr. Elaine Chao?
newtonusr @ 1
I want a revolution!
Please add this to the rant list. Word is out that Wolfowitz “broke bank rules”, yet “they” are now, or still, trying to figure out what to do about it. What about Res Ipsa Loquitur? He is either sooo dumb that he does not know the bank rules or he is so dumb and indifferent that he does not know not to break them. The Latin says “the thing speaks for itself.” The thing to do is get rid of him: why is that hard and why is it taking so long? Thanks
Great post PW. Hi all.
The Democratics wannabe-Presidents really need to go on TV, in front of reporters, and talk to the bloggers about why it is that they think we shouldn’t end the occupation ASAP (and I don’t mean ‘well, we’ll start planning the pullout in September, and start the withdrawal maybe six months after that, and oh, yeah, if it doesn’t go real well we’ll just leave our troops there for another couple of years’, which is how they’re currently waffling).
And on a different front in the never-ending war against campaign idiocy, I got 5 calls today (at least) from the two candidates in tomorrow’s Los Angeles school board election, three of them within a fifteen-minute period. I let both candidates know that I don’t appreciate that. The mayor’s pet has contact info on the website, but the school board’s pet doesn’t, so I had to use the work address (the incumbent candidate) and let that one know that that isn’t acceptable either.
OT: FYI EPU’D
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING
The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing on “Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part IV” for Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building.
Senator Schumer will preside.
By order of the Chairman
Witness List
Hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee On
“Preserving Prosecutorial Independence: Is the Department of Justice Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys? – Part IV”
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
Dirksen Senate Office Building Room 226
10:00 a.m.
James B. Comey
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT WILL BE ON CSPAN?
Revolution?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf-Q2rDd6Tw
“Speaking of ornery Pentagon brass, sounds like the active-duty generals are thinking of the ultimate taboo for American military figures: Telling Bush to start a withdrawal from Iraq or face a revolt from the people who”
Ym.. well. Historically this likelihood leads to a perfectly predictable result: the preemptive sacking of said ornery Pentagon brass, so that by the time they DO speak their mind, they are consigned to being ex-ornery Pentagon brass. Dissident generals mean ex-generals under shrub. Rule #1: Shrub is always right. Rule #2: if Shrub is wrong, see Rule #1 and submit your immediate resignation.
In other pathetic news.. apparently the WH is trying to suppress a World Bank report on Wolfie’s misconduct. Quoeth Reuters:
“The [white house] official said consideration of the Wolfowitz issue should be split into two matters — whether he violated bank rules and whether he should continue as president of the bank. “And we think there ought to be a bright line between those two questions,” the White House official told Reuters.
Ummmm.. yeah. That works. Or… see Rule #2
lolo @ 8
Not on the schedule they sent out 4 hrs ago.
B. Hatten@5
“The thing to do is get rid of him: why is that hard and why is it taking so long?”
How many people in this administration can you say that about?
STTP in Ohio @ 12
All of them ?
Phoenix Woman: In re: Mitch McConnell:
You mean your Grandma looks like THIS!?!
Why do Mitch McConnell’s eye’s bug out thyroid problem like Barbara Bush or a white line problem?
newtonusr @ 3
Hi there. Congratulations!
McKay, Inglesias, Charlton talk on C-Span 2 right now is terrific!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 4
Why can’t we start our OWN PARTY! Damnit.
I disagree about Mitch McConnell. He looks like the Ghost of Jacob Marley. I can hear his chains rattling a mile away. Seriously, that dude is scary. Most of these Rethugs look like decadent old fascists with tertiary syphilis. They probably frighten their own families.
I hear it being said that the Pentagon is going to revolt if Bush continues with the “surge”. Pentagon revolt? What does that mean? What are the implications of such an event?
lolo @ 18
Watch it now. Someone might call that a ‘radical’ idea. ;0)
Hey Phoenix Woman:
I really hate to admitt this but I swear Harry Reid looks just like my grandma. I laugh every time I see him. I guess we could be related seeing as how my great great grandfather had 8 wives. I don’t take after that side of the family thank God, I am a brownette not a blond. Freaky! (a brownette not a brunette there is a difference)
Exactly. Unlike revolution, which most people would call radical.
Hey, where’s the skinny on McNulty? I know it has to be around here somewhere.
Perhaps we could call the new political party PDS. “People for a Democratic Society”.
John McKay on C-Span 2
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
at a minimum, lots of turnover in high military ranks.
at a maximum, this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_in_May
but the REAL effect is simple: cover for the rethugs. when GENERALS en masse refuse to obey orders, the politicos can say, hey we’re supporting the troops!
the problem for the generals is that, if chimpy wants to play hardball, he can call it pusilaniumous conduct before the enemy and have them shot after summary courts martial.
any way you look at, bad news. for all of us.
We need radical political, economic, social and foreign policy change.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 20
More fired Pentagon personnel
ccmask @ 26
This is a great panel, and Paul Charlton is impressive – I’ve heard very little from him until now.
Gunga Djinn @ 24
try the thread by Jeralyn
Go round up those felines!
Remember, the support for the war is cracking — the generals are about ready to bail.
If it came to a real “shoot out” between Shrub and the officers, wouldn’t the finest resolution be Impeachment? It is not as if there are no grounds, like High Crimes.
I think we Dems need to recognize a very simple reality… shrub doesn’t care about “revolts” or dissent or criticism. It best he’ll pretend to give a darn for a day or two. At worst, he’d just accelerate the surge. “Revolt” is an irrelevant concept.. something designed to titillate us and the press.
Hi PW!
(ride ‘em, cow girl…)
TexBetsy @ 23
Have y’all seen Rayne’s call for a third party?
I can’t find it… :(
But it’s really, really good.
Thank you! :)
Firepups, please join supporters of Vote Vets in this call to action:
VoteVets.org has launched a series of TV ads featuring retired generals calling for changing the failed policy in the Middle East.
These ads are airing in states and districts of those Members of Congress who are very close to breaking with the President on Iraq, and
supporting a new strategy including a phased withdrawal of our troops from the region.
You can watch the first ad here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&eurl=
(Second ad is linked in PW’s post above.)
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS CAMPAIGN A BOOST WITH A GRASSROOTS PHONE AND EMAIL BLITZ!
Some of our elected officials are going to be treated to a SPECIAL DAY when they will be showered with attention for the purpose of delivering a message. By joining us, you can help MAKE THEIR DAY! They need to know that
people are paying attention to what they’re doing.
The message is this:
(It doesn’t matter if you live in a different state or district. They know you can provide support for their opponents in the next election if they continue to defy the will of the American people!)
Today’s Special Day belongs to…SENATOR JOHN WARNER of Virginia!
(tomorrow or the next day is okay too)
CALL:
Washington office: (202) 224-2023
TOLL FREE NUMBERS (ask the operator for Senator Warner’s office): 800-828-0498, 800-459-1887 or 800-614-2803
EMAIL: You can also use the online contact form to send this message to Senator Warner in email instead of calling.
http://www.senate.gov/~warner/…..tactme.cfm
If you have not yet signed the VoteVets/WesPAC StopIranWar petition, please
do so here. http://www.stopiranwar.com/
THANKS!!!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 27 =
Much depends on whether the generals are seen as backing Congress (the people who are supposed to hold the power of the purse anyway) or the “unitary executive”.
General Eaton’s ad for VoteVets hints at this, where he asks Congress to take up their role and do what Bush won’t do.
OKK – Here is story that is sadly familiar across Indian Country, from the NYT: LINK
OT, but there was this story on ‘rawstory’ about a British reporter screaming at a member of Scientology, and when he was criticized by said Scientologist he said:
“I am a British subject, not an American citizen, and in my country we have a freedom of speech. I have a right to report that.”
Is it not sad it has come to that.
Blub @ 34
Then let them prove it.
If it’s so irrelevant, how come the national media is trying to shove it under the rug? (I didn’t find out about this on the evening news — I found out about it via ThinkProgress.)
Here here!
very well said – I appreciate opportunities to poke Obama (Joe-Bama) with things like this, as he really likes to maintain wiggle-room/deniability until his pollsters and consultants come up with the best triangulation strategy.
However, Dem candidates, including Clinton, know that there is a rigid orthodoxy even throughout most of the most progressive, anti-war sections of voters, that withdrawal of support from a candidate with a (D) in front of their name is an impossibility, an un-utterable taboo – and therefore they don’t have to worry about defection to Nader, or Hagel, or Ron Paul or whoever, no matter what lies they tell and covert support for the failed war they enact.
So therefore these phone calls made as a result of this urge on FDL can be noted, then disregarded, because we have no leverage.
Removing this fatwa against even the thought of withdrawing unthinking allegiance to the ineffective and corrupt Dem establishment would provide a bit of leverage, and it is much needed if you care more about Peace and our planet’s future than the electability of a certain party’s apparatchiks.
It’s just like Charlie Brown, who always beleives that this time Lucy will let him kick the football, for real.
Princess Sparkle Pony has a great Mitch McConnell pic — with halo!
mulligatawny @ 40
We are not quite there yet, or we would not be blogging, and we are not going to let it happen here. We will not let it happen.
I’ll believe the active generals are really revolting (oh the jokes I could make about that….) when I see them actually do it.
Just another FU by kneeballers to give King George more time to run out the clock.
dakine01 @ 14
Dakine01: Oh, that’s PERFECT! May I steal? (For the record: Grandma was a light brown before she went gray, and she stopped wearing her hear that long in the 1960s, but otherwise that’s Grandma to a T!)
Phoenix Woman @ 41
sorry to come off so cynical about this. I just honestly think this administration is operating beyond all normal political logic now.. or normal recriminations. I feel that unless we’re prepared to impeach, which apparently we’re not yet, there just isn’t a whole lot that shrub will respond to, with more than a few crocodile tears and maybe a soothing sound or two.
AZ Matt @ 39
Thanks for link. It’s sometimes very difficult not to become angry about this stuff.
Blub @ 47
You’re not alone.
They politicized everything else, why not the Pentagon and the Military Brass too? It’s not like it takes any great leap of the imagination to see that.
Can i get a lobotomy with my “reeducation?”
Gunga Djinn @ 24
go here (by our own emptywheel!)
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c….._play.html
TexBetsy @ 6
Evening, Ma’am!!! Oh the sheer Irony! I was EPU’d in responding to a comment by PW, by PW’s new post!!! Damn, lost the Zed!!!
Phoenix Woman @ 46
Please feel free as far as I’m concerned. The blog it’s on is called Hillbilly Report and is very much anti-McConnell. Calls him “Toothless Mitch” all the time and has also raised the gay issue in a not very subtle fashion.
Phoenix!
Bravo! I almost have tears welling.
Pride in you and in Steve Chapman as well.
tw3k @ 50
You can have one now if you like.
BTW, anyone who wants the skinny on the new “iran has centrifuges! the sky is falling” crud from drudge et al should follow this linky:
http://blog.wired.com/defense/…..s_tim.html
The American Revolution was about tyranny. And a revolt against a man named George who presided over it.
I’m curious: which Democratic Presidential candidates do not want to go on record with this vote?
I can think of one very specific individual, but I’ll let it go.
Try not to puke when you read this
O/T, but it blows that old talking point about ‘we’re painting schools’ to kingdom come.
The Republicans are bad bad people.
Phoenix Woman @ 38
yes, i agree fully. and these guys are no fools; remember all the major general jobs (2 star and above) get vetted by congress, so these guys know the ropes or they wouldn’t be where they are.
Blub @ 34
Wag the Dog… Bombs Iran!!! Sheer Fuckery!!!
Wash. Post’s Weisman “won’t believe” impeachment polls, even those conducted by his own paper
During the May 11 edition of the Post Politics Hour online discussion at washingtonpost.com, Washington Post White House correspondent Jonathan Weisman replied to a question — “How is Washington handling the news that almost 40 percent of Americans support impeachment of [President] Bush and [Vice President Dick] Cheney?” — by stating: “We’re not. I haven’t seen the polling that you are referring to, and until I do, I won’t quite believe it.” A recent InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion poll, however, found that 39 percent of Americans favor the impeachment by Congress of Bush and Cheney, and polling conducted over a year ago for the Post indicated that one-third of Americans would support Bush’s impeachment and removal from office.
tw3k @ 50
TexBetsy @ 62
Proof that 2/3rds of Americans are slow or drunk.
Phule @ 63
or (c) all of the above
Alfred Kelgarries @ 51
in a very _surreal_ way i can only say: :o
Blub @ 47
Impeach the Bastards Now!!! Oopsy, that one just slipped out!!! I’ll try to restrain my emotions!!! My bad!!! *g*
TexBetsy @ 62
Betsy, I have written to Weisman, very politely asking if this is the poll he wants to see, and providing a link for him. No response yet, but we can slowly nudge them in the right direction. Soon, he’ll go to the new WaPo polling guy to say, “Hey, should we poll on impeachment?”
Blub says:
May 14th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
“The [white house] official said consideration of the Wolfowitz issue should be split into two matters — whether he violated bank rules and whether he should continue as president of the bank. “And we think there ought to be a bright line between those two questions,” the White House official told Reuters.
I believe that I heard today that the new line from World Bank officials is that Wolfie “violated his contract”.
That’s much more serious talk. Wolfie’s gotta go pretty soon now.
Which is more likely?
1. US attacks Iran.
2. Tet type attack in Iraq.
What do we do if US attacks Iran?
What do we do if there is a Tet type attack in Iraq?
I tend to think the ramped up Iran rhetoric is now a smokescreen for troubles in Iraq. Either way, I hope I’m wrong, and I probably am.
What do you think?
Just curious.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 2
I wrote that (MMM message board) post back in July, 2003. Apparently, changes in browser standards since have rendered it unreadable, so here is
teh new version!
Note that it was in Feb, 2004 that the Bush administration admitted I had their number.
CTuttle @ 66
I was so upset earlier, I had to go have a beer :)
OKK,
It seems like most of the politicians, either party, have short memories when it comes Indian Country. They love cas*no cash or helping the energy companies screw the the tribes but other than that – nothing.
(MOD NOTE: *edited to allow through spam filter)
Hi everyone. (splash)
Sadly, I agree with Blub#34: Bush doesn’t care what anyone thinks unless it supports him doing whatever the hell he wants, and that is how it is going to be until he either leaves willingly or is frogmarched out of the WH in handcuffs.
Period.
RonD @ 72
Howdy Ron
jayt @ 68
I just find it abslutely incredible that the WH would actually say, outright, that breaking the rules and breaking the rules having consequences are two altogether separate concepts, subject to a “bright line” divider. In other words, we can break the rules because we have more power than you do. This WH presser just captured their entire philosophy with uncharacteristic honestly. Naked force.
newtonusr @ 30
ccmask @ 26
This is a great panel, and Paul Charlton is impressive – I’ve heard very little from him until now.
Iglesias just said that he’s spoken to several former colleagues (who are still U.S. Atty’s) who are “sickened” by what has happened are presently looking for new jobs.
I’ve finally written up something about the B.R.E.A.D. assembly last Monday night, where the predatory payday lending issue was discussed. Wish I could be more diligent about posting in a timely manner, but sometimes it’s hard to find time and energy to devote to these things at the end of the day or week working to “put food on” my own family.
McNulty wasn’t the only one to resign…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 57
The parallels are eerie…
Well, the reporting is that Cheney is going to be defending Wolfo and coming to his aid. For normal people, is that something that could really help? Is that who you want on your side? They just do not understand the bright lines that most people do seem to get.
phoenix Woman. You rock!
LS #69,
IMHO, the probability of a Tet-style offensive in Iraq approaches unity. I wrote this back in February, and I think it will look like this:
Green Zone Tet
They’ve already started, by trying to close the bridges, just last week.
Hey Betsy!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
Thank you for that one, OKK.
Lanny Davis resignation quote from link above:
“When Davis protested the attempted deletions, he said the board was told that the White House lawyers feared that because the material witness law was used by U.S. attorneys, a new probe of that issue would become a part of the larger controversy over the firing of U.s. attorneys. “I found this reason to be inappropriate—and emblematic of the sincere view, with which I strongly disagreed, of at least some administration officials and a majority of the Board that the Board was wholly part of the White House staff and political structure, rather than an independent oversight entity,”
twolf1 @ 78
I think Lanny Davis’s resignation is the more chilling and spookier of the two!!! ‘Substantial Edits’ of the reports to congress about NSL abuse within the FBI, for instance is sobering!!!
B. Hatten @ 80
The only message Cheney’s capable of delivering to our allies is: keep Wolfie or we cut off support for the World Bank.
Interestingly, the board vote at the bank is split in very telling ways. Against Wolfie are the Euros, the Russians, the South Americans and, strangely, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (I mean.. aren’t they Halliburton subsidiaries?). For us are the Africans (just a little American money talks, apparently) and Canada. Undecided or silent, Pakistan (Musharaff knows where his bread is buttered), Malaysia (who knows?), China (what’s a little corruption and nepotism between friends?) and Mexico (be nice to the ten thousand ton white elephant one shares a bench with).
Off topic I know, but on a topic near and dear to FDL readers’ hearts:
I received an e-mail from Sen. Barbara Boxer asking for a contribution to her reelection fund (she is not up for reelection until 2010). I did not send any money, but I did go to her “Contact” page and informed her why I would not be contributing, now or ever–because of her support of Sen. Joe Lieberman (CFL-Conn.) who bolted the Democratic Party after Ned Lamont won the primary election fair and square, and who campaigned against Lamont, the party’s rightful nominee. That is not the way to build a stronger Democratic Party.
You can send Barbara Boxer a comment here:
http://www.barbaraboxer.com/contact/
Oh India’s against us too.
LS @ 69
If the US attacks Iran, the following are probable:
1) Gas will be $5 a gallon to start and peak at $7.
2) Hizbollah and Syria will attack israel.
3) if there wasn’t going to be a tet-type offensive in iraq before, there will be then.
4) Lil Kim may decide, F it i’m gonna go for all the marbles and invade south korea. he’s so unstable and his generals are so wacko anything is possible there.. and given how over extended we are, we would be screwed. many thousands of casualties (the first salvo would be nerve gas, the second (a minute or two later) biologicals) and if somebody lets off a tac nuke kiss your computer goodbye; ram will sudden cost a whole lot more, as well as motherboards and graphics cards. the EMP will fry the semiconductor industry all through the korean peninsula.
5) seeing all the above, china may say F it and invade taiwan, under the “get it over with” concept. i’ve studied chinese history and acually had a minor in it. i know why they hate and fear taiwan; its stupid, but for them quite reasonable.
6) if all the above happen, putin may decide not to leave office and instead preside over an attempt to re-control the warsaw pact nations, undoing all the reforms from the 90’s. think cold war all over again.
In short, if the chips fall really really badly, we are SCREWED.
for the tet offensive options, see my next post.
oh my: don’t show this to Jane:
Lieberman Helps Collect Cash for Susan Collins
http://blog.washingtonpost.com…..ash_f.html
JoeLie – Repub fund-raiser.
I find it interesting that Newsweek choose the headline “Bloody Monday” in twolf’s link.
twolf1 @ 78
Even a stopped clock…
Lanny Davis
Thanks for the link!
CTuttle @ 86
oh
jeebus
….
CTuttle @ 79
For sure.
Giving Mr. Davis a standing O for quiting his job in protest over White House interference.
Alfred@90, having an Asia-Pacific History Minor from UH-Hilo, I agree with much of what you state, however, I believe you overstate the number of Dominoes!!! I’ve also served in Korea, it is a plausible scenario, yet, overstated, too many variables!!!
This administration reminds me of Imelda Marcos, they have a million shoes to drop.
Loo Hoo @ 84
;0)
LS @ 71
So I’m not the only one? I am so upset over all this shit. The only thing calming me is listening to these 2 hotties on Cspan right now.
lolo @ 100
Cuter than Tom Cruise :P
Suzanne @ 92
Evening, Ma’am!!! True, only two! WTF! But, I think Davis’s resignation is the direr of the two!!! ;)
Alfred Kelgarries @ 83
here’s my tet post from a previous thread (too tired to to link surgery tonight)
and to everyone who suggested links, thank you! I have saved them and will read them when I have functional brain cells again.
about winning in vietnam, the talk I heard (and i was never a ground pounder so it may be totally wrong) was very simple: blockade all the harbors of north vietnam and turn back all the ships from russia and GERMANY AND FRANCE AND ITALY AND BRITAIN bringing in war materials paid for by the USSR in hard currency. the reason (it was said) the NV could survive the bombing was simple: they regularly got complete resupply via their de-facto eruopean allies. lbj was told by state that if he did that, france and germany would pull out of nato, and maybe italy too. which was bs and he should have known it.
again, just what I heard, can’t judge its validity. but it explained why a lot of my colleagues really hated LBJ’s guts…
Suzanne @ 96
Ma’am! But, but, the left has No eyes and ears on the Board now!!!
Lanny Davis, just to be clear…
__________________________
lolo
Please expand on “hotties”.
CTuttle @ 97
drat, you caught me! BUSTED! :( :)
you are quite right. i deliberately shoved far too many apples into that horrible pie. for everything to fall like that would be a ridiculous coincidence…just like the killing of a minor noble of the austro-hungarian empire could never cause a world-wide war to break out…except it did.
i would be VERY interested to hear your critique, remember i’m an intel weenie at the wargame level, several removes from the pointy end of the spear…
Hey gang,
Wee Balrog was due yesterday. As of tonight, the little one has determined that coming into this world is too risky with Wolfowitz and Gonzo still in office.
Let’s redouble our snark-vibes to get them out so William Roger can come out safely!
Thanks for the love, friends. We appreciate it.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 51
OTOH, he was the House Rethugs’ media ghoul for Clinton impeachment.
Hope he resigned because he’s about to be indicted –
and I hope his psychological hell lasts for the rest of his days.
He sits at the right claw of the Infernal General who has brought torture, secret prisons, renditions, disappearances, Guantanamo, and extrajudicial murder upon America.
McNulty, tell what you know.
Tell what you did.
War criminal.
The AUSAs got you fired.
The torture and renditions get you hunted
When do you leave Federal service?
Seen all the fifty states?
Over and over and …
You are the Second Torturer in Chief.
Assistant to Abu’s Great Crusade.
You sat yourself at the right claw of the Torturer General.
You sat yourself at the right claw of the face of torment.
….at the right claw of religious bigotry against a billion people….
Did you think they will forget your role?
Did they think they would forget loved ones snatched off the street – gone?
Returning raped, burnt, gouged, shocked, beaten –
Returning broken.
or never returning .
Did you think they would forget their brother because you never saw his face?
Where will you hide from the families?
Will the Hague be your prison, or your refuge?
Your past threatens your future: I am no threat to you.
I do not wish you physical injury or cruelty. I do wish you health and safety. You are a human being, and thus I wish you freedom from physical want or need. You are a human being, and thus I wish you universal human rights.
You Rethugs are the ones who mastered political uses of the technology of death…guns and death chambers..to win elections and subdue opponents.
(Though the same Rethugs choose to live in the rich neighborhoods without gunfire, and hire the best private criminal lawyers.)
Jumping jacks, Balrog.
Balrog!
LS @ 101
Sorry folks, not my persuasion, however, the audience questions are phenomenal!!! Better than most of the Congress Critters questioning, as evidenced so recently!!!
Alfred Kelgarries @ 103
you, my friend, are a mater-debater.Alfred Kelgarries @ 113
I’m going call BS. Third party supplies might be a welcomed gift, but, by no means life blood.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 106
Touche, I’ve participated in Divisional ‘War Games’ in the 8th Army’s Toc, during Team Spirit!!!
tw3k @ 111
is that good or bad, i’m new at this…?
Balrog @ 107
THEM? How many wee ones are ya expectin’?
Balrog @ 106
William Roger…wave, wave…yoo hoo!!! There is love, and food, and TOYS out here….come, come, come, little one.
The Condi subpoena flip-off has slipped below the radar for a couple of weeks now. Anyone heard any updates?
Why isn’t Waxman screaming?
Suzanne @ 109
Tried them. Re-agitated my hernia. Mrs. B. thought it was funny, if that helps.
LS @ 98
Okay, now that’s funny!
uh, Balrog, you are not supposed to do the jumping jacks MRS Balrog is.
TexBetsy @ 115
Ding! I knew that was coming. :)
Suzanne @ 119
Nonsense Suzanne. They can do them together.
Suzanne, #118.
(snorts root beer on to keyboard)
I was SO hoping SOMEBODY would say it!
true, TB, but they don’t work when she is watching him do them.
Alfred Kelgarries @ 106
Ooh, I think I just pissed off the Guvmint!!! I had remarked to you earlier, in which, I’ve participated in the role play in the control center of the American Army (8th), during the large scale exercise performed yearly in Korea, now will this quote pass muster!!!
William Roger Balrog! Come out, so that you may see this story! (h/t Kenosha Kid)
Short version: Bush enabler and alleged Democrat Lanny Davis was a fraternity pledge for DKE (”Deke”) at Yale. As part of his initiation, he allowed the frat brothers to put cigarettes out on him. One of the frat brothers was George W. Bush. Tells you everything you need to know about Lanny Davis and the DLC.
Suzanne @ 123
Depends on how hard she’s laughing.
Suzanne @ 120
that’s funny too!
CT, there was something in your original comment that keeps tripping the filters. Haven’t figured out what it is yet.
Suzanne @ 123
Suzanne, I keep losing my comments to Alfred@120, is it not clearing the filters? No Problemo with anyone else!
Phoenix Woman @ 125
Preverts.
LS @ 115
And POODLES! *g*
New thread…
Suzanne @ 128
Bush, Rove????
Phoenix Woman @ 125
Punaise, do you like the name?
Blub @ 47
Maybe I’m Pollyanna, but I do trust Waxman and Leahy. They have been brilliant. I only say again that we need to win big in 2008, and that we need to extend how long people are free from prosecution.
twolf1 @ 131
Lolo is back!
(((((William Rodger)))))
It’s OK to come out, little one.
Warm in there?
Balrog’s here.
You’ll be fine.
jayt @ 91
She knows about it, I reckon. ;-)
Late Night with TSF
New Thread
kirk murphy @ 138
Thanks Kirk, that means a lot to me. :)
Slothrop @ 58
Yup, and that would be the one who is closer to Lanny Davis than any of the other candidates. That would be my guess.
Suzanne @ 128
I think it was my specificity of background in that comment, Prolly the G’s!!!
Re: Fred Thompson’s career as a lobbyist
Thanks for bringing this up. I hope that word starts to spread about Fred’s “inconvenient truth” – that he is a career corporate lobbyist who only spent 1 1/3 terms in the Senate.
If he ever does actually run, this should be the first thing emphasized about him.
ct, the guys backstage are still scratching their heads trying to figure it out. could be the g’s – could be the nsa parking their truck on the tubes again.
Balrog, you deserve it.
You’re a good
eggValaraukoSuzanne @ 143
There really are people back there? I thought it was just you.
cal @ 143
That, and a (TV) distict attorney?
Switch.
Me? Alone? Against all of you? hahahahaha
Suzanne @ 148
Suzanne, we’re here for you.
We’re your friends, remember?
We’re with you, not against you.
(sidles towards door, wondering about haloperidol levels…
is she still armed?)
Phule @ 49
Here’s the deal:
The Pentagon was already largely Republican, and backed Bush over Gore in 2000. But then Bush brought in, along with Cheney, Darth Rumsfeld — who has been the enemy of most of the JCS because he wants to eliminate the various armed services and fold them into one service, which is part of his “streamline the military” goal (aka “eliminate as many paid positions as possible and replace them with high-tech gadgets my corporate buddies can make lots of government $ supplying in no-bid contracts”).
Seeing Rumsfeld and Cheney running things again was bad enough — and make no mistake, Cheney and Rummy share the same brain; as we’ve already found, Rumsfeld’s leaving the SecDef job changed nothing. But what was worse, was that they both had had their brains hijacked by convicted grifter Ahmad Chalabi and his disciples, both here in the US and in Israel’s right-wing Likud Party (Doug “stupidest f-ing man on the face of the earth” Feith was one of the guys with connections to both groups), who formed a group called PNAC — “Project for the New American Century”.
And it just got worse from there.
It’s already unprecedented to see so many retired generals speaking out against a war in progress. That in itself was a huge, huge leap. It’s still a leap for active-service generals to come out against the war, but they’re edging closer day by day.
B. Hatten @ 33
The fruit is practically falling of off the peach tree. just add a little im, stir well and we have the administration domino effect tey knock each other of. If the neocons get in the way of Impeachment down they go next election. The Generals do not have a taste for wasting their troop charges. The national Defense depends on a healthy force, our is decimated. The National Guard is also short equipment and morale. Afghanistan is in need of troops and in big trouble killing civilians and NATO is disenchanted. In short the admin interfered with CENTCOM policy and screwed this war to hell before it ever had a chance. Not that it could have been a sound international strategy in the region. Bush wears it, the generals won’t. Hatten is right Impeachment now stand up for your rightd mon! Thanks Hatten never go it alone cod peace
Get out it will get much worse politically. The Generals want to stop the bleeding of their troops and they don’t like slaughtering civilians. They are good people…but will always follow orders. Take it to the bank. Thugery is not good. The solution is political. We went in to set up a Democracy? Help them get out from under Saddam. The Bathist are not going far away and the surrounding Sunni nations are not waiting for Iran to come to Baghdad. If we don’t get our but out of there now. Our trioops are sandwiched between insurgents and Sadr Army fighting a guerilla action while standing guard duty. That paints a target on out troops back snipers or IUDs not much chance for a win here. Impeachment tree has fruit ready to fall like dominos. At home our phones and computers are monitored by ABU, the domestic programs are gutted. What has Dubva done right?
Mitch McConnell don’t have any teeth either
http://www.hillbillyreport.com…..ell_1.html
Mitch McConnell looks a lot like Howdy Doody
http://www.hillbillyreport.com…..doody.html