Comments on: Listening To The Generals http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:17:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: kaleidescope http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691577 kaleidescope Mon, 14 May 2007 22:20:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691577 <p>I’m casting my memory back to post-1970 Vietnam war. I just don’t remember ANY newly retired generals coming out against the war and speaking publicly in opposition to it. There were enlisted men, and junior officers like John Kerry, but major generals who had recently commanded divisions? This is unprecedented and it’s interesting that more isn’t being made of it.</p> I’m casting my memory back to post-1970 Vietnam war. I just don’t remember ANY newly retired generals coming out against the war and speaking publicly in opposition to it. There were enlisted men, and junior officers like John Kerry, but major generals who had recently commanded divisions? This is unprecedented and it’s interesting that more isn’t being made of it.

]]> By: scarecrow http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691063 scarecrow Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691063 <p><a href="#comment-690999"><em>jinny @ 112</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>The second in the series of VoteVet ads is up. General Eaton served 33 years in the U.S.Army:</p> <p><a href="http://www.votevets.org">www.votevets.org</a></p></blockquote> <p>Thanks, jinny — I’ll add an update.</p> jinny @ 112

The second in the series of VoteVet ads is up. General Eaton served 33 years in the U.S.Army:

http://www.votevets.org

Thanks, jinny — I’ll add an update.

]]> By: jinny http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691033 jinny Mon, 14 May 2007 15:42:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691033 <p>New CCN Troops & Vets entry has posted — part 2 from Ilona Meagher on PTSD. </p> <p><a href="http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12064">http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12064</a></p> New CCN Troops & Vets entry has posted — part 2 from Ilona Meagher on PTSD.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12064

]]> By: jinny http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691006 jinny Mon, 14 May 2007 15:24:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-691006 <p>Coincidence to announce this after The Generals start speaking out or what?</p> <p><b>Defense Department blocks some Web sites</b></p> <p>snip…</p> <p>“The Defense Department will begin blocking access “worldwide” to YouTube, MySpace and 11 other popular Web sites on its computers and networks, according to a memo sent Friday by Gen. B.B. Bell, the U.S. Forces Korea commander.”</p> <p>and snip…</p> <p>“The sites covered by the ban are the video-sharing sites YouTube, Metacafe, IFilm, StupidVideos, and FileCabi, the social networking sites MySpace, BlackPlanet and Hi5, music sites Pandora, MTV, and 1.fm, and live365, and the photo-sharing site Photobucket.”</p> <p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/225f5v">http://tinyurl.com/225f5v</a></p> Coincidence to announce this after The Generals start speaking out or what?

Defense Department blocks some Web sites

snip…

“The Defense Department will begin blocking access “worldwide” to YouTube, MySpace and 11 other popular Web sites on its computers and networks, according to a memo sent Friday by Gen. B.B. Bell, the U.S. Forces Korea commander.”

and snip…

“The sites covered by the ban are the video-sharing sites YouTube, Metacafe, IFilm, StupidVideos, and FileCabi, the social networking sites MySpace, BlackPlanet and Hi5, music sites Pandora, MTV, and 1.fm, and live365, and the photo-sharing site Photobucket.”

http://tinyurl.com/225f5v

]]> By: jinny http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690999 jinny Mon, 14 May 2007 15:16:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690999 <p>The second in the series of VoteVet ads is up. General Eaton served 33 years in the U.S.Army:</p> <p><a href="http://www.votevets.org">www.votevets.org</a></p> The second in the series of VoteVet ads is up. General Eaton served 33 years in the U.S.Army:

http://www.votevets.org

]]> By: magix http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690953 magix Mon, 14 May 2007 14:40:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690953 <p>Lincoln County Democrats invited our VeteransForPeace Squadron13 bus to<br /> march with them in the “Loyalty Days” parade which took place on Saturday May<br /> 5th, 2007. The parade organizers were informed ahead of time that a bus would<br /> be included in their entry and permission was granted. Then 2 hours prior to parade time they were advised that peace “doesn’t support the spirit of our<br /> community” (yes she really said that - see the video!).<br /> Isn’t Jane from Newport?</p> Lincoln County Democrats invited our VeteransForPeace Squadron13 bus to
march with them in the “Loyalty Days” parade which took place on Saturday May
5th, 2007. The parade organizers were informed ahead of time that a bus would
be included in their entry and permission was granted. Then 2 hours prior to parade time they were advised that peace “doesn’t support the spirit of our
community” (yes she really said that – see the video!).
Isn’t Jane from Newport?

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690937 selise Mon, 14 May 2007 14:26:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690937 <p><a href="#comment-690875"><em>Scarecrow @ 75</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>More evidence of Republican nervousness wrt to Iraq, at <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/13/iraq-liberal-conservative/">ThinkProgress.</a></p> <p>The capture/search for the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/14/world/middleeast/14iraq.html?ref=world">missing US soldiers</a> is getting lots of coverage. Read through the second page for a long list of the violence in Iraq yesterday.</p></blockquote> <p>Bernhard has an interesting take on the abduction, <a href="http://www.moonofalabama.org/2007/05/mahmoudiya_amne.html">Mahmoudiya Amnesia</a></p> <blockquote><p>None of the current news accounts on yesterday’s incident of some U.S. soldiers killed and others abducted south of Baghdad mentions the likely reason why this has happened.</p></blockquote> Scarecrow @ 75

More evidence of Republican nervousness wrt to Iraq, at ThinkProgress.

The capture/search for the missing US soldiers is getting lots of coverage. Read through the second page for a long list of the violence in Iraq yesterday.

Bernhard has an interesting take on the abduction, Mahmoudiya Amnesia

None of the current news accounts on yesterday’s incident of some U.S. soldiers killed and others abducted south of Baghdad mentions the likely reason why this has happened.

]]> By: realworld http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690930 realworld Mon, 14 May 2007 14:23:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690930 <p><a href="#comment-690880"><em>cbl @ 79</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Major General Paul Eaton is up next in the votevets que - a little preview on what to expect</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erzh8tzTtIE">Real Time w/ Bill Maher</a></p></blockquote> <p>I found this disappointing. He says it would be bad for the troops to defund them and bring them home but was not asked how so? Keeping them alive is bad for them? Stopping putting them into situations where they don’t know if it’s right or wrong to kill civilians is wrong? Squandering our international support further is good for them? I was really disappointed Maher didn’t challenge him on this.</p> cbl @ 79

Major General Paul Eaton is up next in the votevets que – a little preview on what to expect

Real Time w/ Bill Maher

I found this disappointing. He says it would be bad for the troops to defund them and bring them home but was not asked how so? Keeping them alive is bad for them? Stopping putting them into situations where they don’t know if it’s right or wrong to kill civilians is wrong? Squandering our international support further is good for them? I was really disappointed Maher didn’t challenge him on this.

]]> By: dmg http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690923 dmg Mon, 14 May 2007 14:17:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690923 <p><a href="#comment-690890"><em>Mandrake @ 89</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-690876"><em>brendan @ 76</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>This is only tangentially related, but I have to strongly recommend a movie I rented from Netflix this weekend, “Sir! No Sir!” that digby recommended a few months back. It’s a documentary about resistance to the Vietnam War from within the armed forces. It left me shaken.</p></blockquote> <p>Sorta related, but I saw Amy Goodman on CSPAN last night and she said AWOL’s are in the thousands. Of course, this goes largely unreported. </p> <p>Her source? The Pentagon.</p></blockquote> <p>also underreported — a friend who has many contacts among iraq-stationed troops says the number of them on prescription drugs, specifically antidepressants, is alarming.</p> Mandrake @ 89

brendan @ 76

This is only tangentially related, but I have to strongly recommend a movie I rented from Netflix this weekend, “Sir! No Sir!” that digby recommended a few months back. It’s a documentary about resistance to the Vietnam War from within the armed forces. It left me shaken.

Sorta related, but I saw Amy Goodman on CSPAN last night and she said AWOL’s are in the thousands. Of course, this goes largely unreported.

Her source? The Pentagon.

also underreported — a friend who has many contacts among iraq-stationed troops says the number of them on prescription drugs, specifically antidepressants, is alarming.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690918 Adie Mon, 14 May 2007 14:13:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/05/14/listening-to-the-generals/#comment-690918 <p><a href="#comment-690911"><em>mc @ 102</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>OT (sorry)</p> <p>Re: voter fraud</p> <p>Somebody pointed this out upthread:</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/13/AR2007051301106.html?hpid=moreheadlines">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....eheadlines</a></p> <p>Waxman needs to get Rove under oath now!</p></blockquote> <p>{{{{{THANKS!}}}}}</p> <p>This is NEVER OT. It’s key to everything that’s happening under this administration. <em>imho</em>.</p> <p>oh, did I say thanks? ;-></p> mc @ 102

OT (sorry)

Re: voter fraud

Somebody pointed this out upthread:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..eheadlines

Waxman needs to get Rove under oath now!

{{{{{THANKS!}}}}}

This is NEVER OT. It’s key to everything that’s happening under this administration. imho.

oh, did I say thanks? ;->

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