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		<title>By: Dick Pierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/12/book-salon-double-header/#comment-689437</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve read the book and have shared it with the 1st Sergeants of a local National Guard unit which has been to Iraq twice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ilona met with them.  In their opinion, she gets it.  As far as the book is concerned, they are sharing it with other members of the unit. I was hoping that I would get the galley copy back, but they think their guys need to read it now. &lt;b&gt;That’s how important this book is&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please ask Ilona about how she wants her book signings set up, and find out the best way of getting this book into the hands of the combat veterans who need it most.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll be back for the party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve read the book and have shared it with the 1st Sergeants of a local National Guard unit which has been to Iraq twice.</p>
<p>Ilona met with them.  In their opinion, she gets it.  As far as the book is concerned, they are sharing it with other members of the unit. I was hoping that I would get the galley copy back, but they think their guys need to read it now. <b>That’s how important this book is</b>.</p>
<p>Please ask Ilona about how she wants her book signings set up, and find out the best way of getting this book into the hands of the combat veterans who need it most.</p>
<p>I’ll be back for the party.</p>
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		<title>By: cho</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/12/book-salon-double-header/#comment-689169</link>
		<dc:creator>cho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 15:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having read Ilona’s book, I can say that the research and the stories in it are amazing.  She traces the syndrome of “soldier’s heart” through history beginning with the civil war, but more heart-rendering for me were the portraits of the suffering individuals who have returned from the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts: the immediacy of the present reality.&lt;br /&gt;
For anyone interested, other works on &lt;b&gt;PTSD&lt;/b&gt; that &lt;b&gt;Ilona Meagher&lt;/b&gt; has contributed to include &lt;b&gt;D.E. Ford&lt;/b&gt;’s three part series on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epluribusmedia.org/features/20060206PTSD_intro.html&quot;&gt;Blaming the Victim&lt;/a&gt;, a review of Penny Coleman’s excellent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epluribusmedia.org/reviews/20060620corrodingeffect.html&quot;&gt;Flashback&lt;/a&gt; and her review of Trish Woods&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epluribusmedia.org/reviews/20061110_wood.html&quot;&gt;What Was Asked of Us &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read Ilona’s book, I can say that the research and the stories in it are amazing.  She traces the syndrome of “soldier’s heart” through history beginning with the civil war, but more heart-rendering for me were the portraits of the suffering individuals who have returned from the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts: the immediacy of the present reality.<br />
For anyone interested, other works on <b>PTSD</b> that <b>Ilona Meagher</b> has contributed to include <b>D.E. Ford</b>’s three part series on <a href="http://www.epluribusmedia.org/features/20060206PTSD_intro.html">Blaming the Victim</a>, a review of Penny Coleman’s excellent <a href="http://www.epluribusmedia.org/reviews/20060620corrodingeffect.html">Flashback</a> and her review of Trish Woods<a href="http://www.epluribusmedia.org/reviews/20061110_wood.html">What Was Asked of Us </a></p>
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		<title>By: David Olsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Olsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;James, Kevin Phillips’ new book, American Theocracy, sounds interesting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, Kevin Phillips’ new book, American Theocracy, sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/12/book-salon-double-header/#comment-688806</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;James, could we review Scott Ritters new book - Target: Iran? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ritter came and spoke here in Scottsdale AZ. Planned to be a 1 1/2 hr event that ended up to be over 3 hrs. Absolutely Fascinating and VERY informative.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, could we review Scott Ritters new book &#8211; Target: Iran? </p>
<p>Ritter came and spoke here in Scottsdale AZ. Planned to be a 1 1/2 hr event that ended up to be over 3 hrs. Absolutely Fascinating and VERY informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688551&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;katymine @ 27&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688535&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;James F. Trumm @ 14&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
What does your father think should be done?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My fathers therapy has been Habitat for Humanity. His group of old geezers are on their 12ht or 13th house now. Building and talking and doing good things for others helps them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a nurse, what I think they need is a safe place to “vomit” all the bad on a regular basis. Clean it out….. other Vets talking to Vets like in drug rehab. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The VA used to have some really great PTSD units across the country with residential therapy when things got too bad.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I work at a Rehab hospital - physical therapists, occupational therapist, neuropsych - brain injuries, strokes, etc. We’ve been getting Iraq vets. I’m not real sure why they are showing up at our hospital rather than the VA, which is literally around the corner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Sorry - got badly sidetracked)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-688551"><em>katymine @ 27</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-688535"><em>James F. Trumm @ 14</em></a></p>
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What does your father think should be done?</p>
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<p>My fathers therapy has been Habitat for Humanity. His group of old geezers are on their 12ht or 13th house now. Building and talking and doing good things for others helps them. </p>
<p>As a nurse, what I think they need is a safe place to “vomit” all the bad on a regular basis. Clean it out….. other Vets talking to Vets like in drug rehab. </p>
<p>The VA used to have some really great PTSD units across the country with residential therapy when things got too bad.</p>
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<p>I work at a Rehab hospital &#8211; physical therapists, occupational therapist, neuropsych &#8211; brain injuries, strokes, etc. We’ve been getting Iraq vets. I’m not real sure why they are showing up at our hospital rather than the VA, which is literally around the corner.</p>
<p>(Sorry &#8211; got badly sidetracked)</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 03:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688591&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 58&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688589&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alicia @ 56&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I’m not lolo, but I can tell you that yes, it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did the VA help them back in the 70’s?  Why did they end up in the streets?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think they had the knowledge, therapeutic and/or drug treatments that they have today about PTSD - or other mental disabilities. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I see as an issue (and I may be wrong) is that the mental and emotional ‘breaking down’ that a (emotionally healthy) soldier has to endure during training to be able to pull the trigger and be able to live with him or herself has to be balanced with an assurance that their cause is just. If you are asked to damage your psyche by killing another human being for a cause that is not just, I can only imagine the mental and emotional torment that would ensue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-688591"><em>SnarKassandra @ 58</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-688589"><em>Alicia @ 56</em></a></p>
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I’m not lolo, but I can tell you that yes, it is.</p>
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<p>Did the VA help them back in the 70’s?  Why did they end up in the streets?</p>
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<p>I don’t think they had the knowledge, therapeutic and/or drug treatments that they have today about PTSD &#8211; or other mental disabilities. </p>
<p>What I see as an issue (and I may be wrong) is that the mental and emotional ‘breaking down’ that a (emotionally healthy) soldier has to endure during training to be able to pull the trigger and be able to live with him or herself has to be balanced with an assurance that their cause is just. If you are asked to damage your psyche by killing another human being for a cause that is not just, I can only imagine the mental and emotional torment that would ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: SnarKassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>SnarKassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 02:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688609&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Muzzy @ 65&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-688587&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 55&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lolo — is PTSD why so many Vietnam vets became homeless?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Severe PTSD is perhaps one of the most difficult conditions to treat and can be among the least responsive to therapy and medication.  People with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder often can be more responsive to treatment and rehabilitation than someone with severe PTSD.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are all kinds of stressors that can result in PTSD but combat is among the worst.  When abuse and neglect occur during developmental years, sometimes patterns of emotional response and coping can lead to personality disorders of varying severity.  But people who frequently dissociate and have high affective instability can be permanently disabled.  Without resources, they can have profound difficulty sustaining functional relationships for work and family life which leads to destitution or homelessness.  Chemical dependency is frequent as well.  It’s a very serious problem.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks Muzzy.  I LOVE my counselor and I am going to work really hard at getting better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-688609"><em>Muzzy @ 65</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-688587"><em>SnarKassandra @ 55</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lolo — is PTSD why so many Vietnam vets became homeless?</p>
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<p>Severe PTSD is perhaps one of the most difficult conditions to treat and can be among the least responsive to therapy and medication.  People with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder often can be more responsive to treatment and rehabilitation than someone with severe PTSD.  </p>
<p>There are all kinds of stressors that can result in PTSD but combat is among the worst.  When abuse and neglect occur during developmental years, sometimes patterns of emotional response and coping can lead to personality disorders of varying severity.  But people who frequently dissociate and have high affective instability can be permanently disabled.  Without resources, they can have profound difficulty sustaining functional relationships for work and family life which leads to destitution or homelessness.  Chemical dependency is frequent as well.  It’s a very serious problem.</p>
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<p>Thanks Muzzy.  I LOVE my counselor and I am going to work really hard at getting better.</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;watching the latest Bill Moyers that I recorded from the other night. He’s talking to a woman named Marily B. Young, who co-authored:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iraq and the Lessons of Vietnam&lt;br /&gt;
Or, How Not to Learn from the Past&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edited by Lloyd C. Gardner and Marilyn B. Young &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She’s quite impressive in her talk with Mr. Moyers - might be a good fit here too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watching the latest Bill Moyers that I recorded from the other night. He’s talking to a woman named Marily B. Young, who co-authored:</p>
<p>Iraq and the Lessons of Vietnam<br />
Or, How Not to Learn from the Past</p>
<p>Edited by Lloyd C. Gardner and Marilyn B. Young </p>
<p>She’s quite impressive in her talk with Mr. Moyers &#8211; might be a good fit here too.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 02:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Muzzy, good on you for your work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I used to do acute hospital (consultation liaison) and long-term outpatient care myself - that was fun.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your point about increasing Axis II recruits by decreaseing recruitng standards seems valid to me, and I also agree with your estimation of the magnitude (small) of this effect in explaining the recorded figures.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muzzy, good on you for your work.</p>
<p>(I used to do acute hospital (consultation liaison) and long-term outpatient care myself &#8211; that was fun.)</p>
<p>Your point about increasing Axis II recruits by decreaseing recruitng standards seems valid to me, and I also agree with your estimation of the magnitude (small) of this effect in explaining the recorded figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Muzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 02:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;kirk - I’m involved in acute hospital care as well as long term outpatient care.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing that comes to mind about the military increasing its absolute numbers of PD diagnoses apart from scam is that there could be a sliver of truth to it.  The military has become so desperate for recruits in recent years that they have had to be much less discriminating in who they enlist.  There likely IS a higher number of diagnosable PD in the ranks as a result of this pressure, but I’m guessing nothing that would account for the rise we are seeing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kirk &#8211; I’m involved in acute hospital care as well as long term outpatient care.</p>
<p>One thing that comes to mind about the military increasing its absolute numbers of PD diagnoses apart from scam is that there could be a sliver of truth to it.  The military has become so desperate for recruits in recent years that they have had to be much less discriminating in who they enlist.  There likely IS a higher number of diagnosable PD in the ranks as a result of this pressure, but I’m guessing nothing that would account for the rise we are seeing.</p>
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