I admire Christy and Jane but Fitzgerald let us down – libby is too small a fry for the authority that was given to him by Comey and for the time and money he spent.

Obama, Hillary and 2008 are distractions from the fact that we need to do something now to stop the mass murder and investigate exactly how many Blackwater mercenaries bush has and saving the utter destruction of our soldiers and naval fleet is not just compassion but a necessity – bush inc does not want us to have a military or national guard when he acts. I don’t know what to do but encouraging people to hide their head in the sand is criminal at this point.

conyers hearing showed exactly where we are and we need to talk about it while we still have the internet and while there is still some time.

Here’s what somebody should ask Gonzales:

“Mr. AG, if Karl Rove were to approach you with the opinion that a USA should be fired, would that be a matter of concern to you?” And if Gonzo says yes, ask him to explain exactly why that would be a problem. This establishes his understanding and affirmation of what’s appropriate at DOJ—-thus clearing away those “president’s pleasure” arguments—-because he keeps playing footsie with this whole issue of what’s appropriate. (If he answers no to the question, follow up with, “Then it’s ok for a member of the White House to tell you which of the USAs should be fired? For any reason? And there’s no need for you inquire into the cause?–Because as you see it, the president runs DOJ? It belongs to him in effect? And so it’s not enough that the USA appointees are merely Republicans, they also must be personally loyal to Bush and the GOP as a part of their job?” And get him to dig this little hole deeper and deeper. Elaborate on successively outrageous hypotheticals to find out just where he draws the ethical line, if at all. Enjoy yourself by marveling at how broad he perceives the president’s power to be in this area.. If he thinks Bush is the goddamn emperor, make him admit to it.)

Now, if he has answered that White House involvement in firings would be inappropriate, establish how strong are his feelings on this. Would he be surprised? Would he find it unseemly for Rove to do this? Shocking, perhaps? Could it perhaps even constitute a crime, if it involved quashing an ongoing criminal investigation? And what would he say to Rove in response? Would he put him in his place? Would he speak to anyone else about it? And if he answers in any way in the affirmative to any of these, point out that he has previously testified he simply “does not recall” any such contact. Then, in full prosecutorial mode (I’m thinking Schumer), raise an eyebrow at him and say, “Now Mr. AG, isn’t it true that a remark so surprising, so out of line with DOJ ethics as you understand them, is not something you could forget? Wouldn’t that stand out in your memory?—If somebody from the White House tried to tell you who to fire?” And elaborate on these points with successive, damning questions, to clarify just how nonsensical the AG’s claims of amnesia are.

Then the coup de grace: ask him (kindly) if he’s been having problems with his memory during the last couple of years. Point out that it happens to most people as they age and when they’re under stress. Give him a chance for the alzheimers defense. AG will probably come back with something like, “My memory isn’t perfect. I have a lot of responsibilities and I rely on my notes and records when I can.” Then YOU cite other testimony Gonzales has made here, or elsewhere in recent years, where he DID recall dates and events and people just fine. And then conclude with, “Mr. AG, the VP’s former chief of staff Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury on the basis of claiming not to remember on Thursday the sensational information he knew and told others about on Tuesday. The ‘forgetfulness’ defense will only go so far Mr. AG.’”

Leaving for Petersburg 25 June for my second White Nights in a row.

All this nonsense letting the Busheviks control what’s going on here, including manipulating the alleged “oversight” being exercised by the Congress….this isn’t oversight; it’s manure!

When the Rethugs controlled all the chairs in the Congress, if they didn’t want someone to get out his or her point, the mike got cut off. how about some reciprocation??

The entire populace is under some serious cognitive dissonance when it comes to what our representatives are capable of.

And as far as how these creeps view the American people….Iran-Contra was all about subverting the will of the Congress and by extension the American people by getting around the Boland Amendment.

An entire generation dedicated to creating a functionally malfunctioning government until it resembles nothing so much as a Rube Goldberg contraption, but one that doesn’t quite get it right.

Because the entire focus right now of the “culture of corruption” Republicans is on retaining control over the White House in next year’s elections.

Rove and Gonzales figure that if a Democrat becomes president, then the game will be up. All the corruption being hidden behind Bush’s and Cheney’s White House doors and stone walls will be exposed, or at least easier to uncover with a Democrat in the White House.

Thus, Rove and Gonzales aren’t going anywhere anytime soon (unless both are impeached somehow and thrown into jail) because they plan on doing what they have been doing for the past six years…using the Justice Department (as well as all other executive branch departments) to basically fix elections in favor of Republicans.

The Senate won’t do anything (not with Joe Lieberman and some other DLC/DINO Democrats running interference for the most evil and corrupt administration in American history), which means it is up to House Democrats to aggressively ramp up their investigations, subpoenaes and contempt charges against the “culture of corruption” Republicans in the White House. (I’m certain there’s plenty left to uncover and expose).

The “what and how” that is lacking. But so many of us honor our conscience and keep trying to focus on truth justice and decency which is seriuosly missing with this administration.!

Thanks for those upbeat words!

Kathleen @ 190 -
no where did i write anything about the amount of work you have or have not done. i have no idea about that.

what i did say was that you were not volunteering to even help with your own suggestion – and that irks me.

what about my proposal to YOU – are you willing to organize such an effort? if so, please let me know if you need help.

Silise thanks for the offer. But like so many of us here, I have a job, rentals, have to make money to put my youngest daughter through college, am the chair for several political organizations etc. etc While I am a media junkie(pride myself in watching and reading from the left, right (wrong) and center) and watched and objected to the complacency of the MSM in the run up to the invasion( Organized 6 buses to D.C.) I do not feel capable of putting a blog together. And for that matter I feel there are just too many now. Why re-create the wheel?

. I will work trying to talk Bill Moyers or Media Watch into taking on my suggestion to put together some place where folks can add on when they hear the MSM continue to be unwilling to challenge the claims being repeated about Iran’s ‘alleged” nuclear weapons program. I think it is so relevant to present time. Instead of Bill Moyers (who I love doing a special in 2 years about the medias complacency in regard to Iran, I would prefer to witness objections and challenges NOW! Thanks for the offer.

But, tell me, when the two sides of the aisle are begat from the same funding, financing and profiteering sources what does it MATTER about the other issues?

If not the Rethugs, the Dem’s will be Big Bro’s henchlings.
We will STILL do Iran.
We will REMAIN interventionist.
We WILL continue to eradicate the middle class.
We WILL eliminate jobs and seek opportunity’s in other countries where labor is cheaper, and costs are lower.

So tell me, what SHOULD our priorities be, in this call to action?

Perhaps, in taking to the streets to protest we need a scorecard:

1) Reform our present Admin.
2) Restore Habeus.
3) Rewrite Patriot Act.
4) Restore Posse Commitatus as it was.
5) FCC-Fairness Doctrine
6) Fire all GOP Fundie’s in DOJ, GAO, and all agency’s who were installed during ShrubCo.

But, in light of the EVIL the USA has become, who are we REALLY fighting, and WHAT do we really want to be?

N then, how do we get it, in a Call To Action?

Hard times demand hard questions, and this FDL thang sure is empowering the ASKING of hard questions of ALL kinds. So good on all FDL Folk.

And Kathleen, I’ve found your postings, thoughts, research efforts, links and such to be remarkably along the lines of what I ‘buy into’ . . . so thanks so much for YOUR contributions.

Now, if we can all find a common bottom denominator to work from, I suggest we turn our attentions to CHANGING THIS SHIT WE ARE IN, as CHS has called for in this post, and so many others have called for, since I started READING this blog.

Someone, in previe thread, spoke about being worn down. Mandrake? My heart out to ya, yes, it IS wearing, realizing that the bill of goods sold to The Boomers was a lie, the 60’s idealism are dead, and Big Brother was inching along all the way from Ike’s exit speech and has us by our collective sexual organs in a vise like pinch.

But FDL, is where I recharge my battery’s (among many others), the blogosphere is where I find Kindred Spirits, brothers and sisters of like minded values and beliefs. And YOU people are continual sources for news, information, opinions, speculations, groupthinks, and a well needed WHACK IN THE HEAD at times.

So, right on, to all. Let’s get it done, someone figger out, what and how to do it, call me and let’s make it so #1.

Overt, peaceful and multitudes of bodies in the streets, immediately, I believe, are mandatory and essential at this point if we want to try to save what ever it is we think our Republic is.

It’s the what and how of it all that’s lacking it seems.

Harumph.

E-mails and Monica.

There is no escape….

It’s over!

If Kathleen is hankering for coverage of something, well that’s why we have the blogosphere… It’s open for anyone who wants to dive in and do it. I look forward to seeing Kathleen’s blog…