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		<title>By: dead last</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682563</link>
		<dc:creator>dead last</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“That pesky rule of law and decency business just gets in the way, doesn’t it?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;W said during his first year that it would be much easier to run the government as a dictatorship. Now we know that was his plan. Efficiency, damn it, Efficiency!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That pesky rule of law and decency business just gets in the way, doesn’t it?”</p>
<p>W said during his first year that it would be much easier to run the government as a dictatorship. Now we know that was his plan. Efficiency, damn it, Efficiency!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682422</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;masaccio 78 — no, only indicator so far is a report in a state-local newspaper that Chiara was located at an apartment in East Lansing MI; this suggests a few things to me, that she did obtain some role at MSU like the one she mentioned in the course of her emails inside DOJ, since MSU is located in East Lansing, more than 1.5 hours away from DOJ’s office in Western Michigan District in Grand Rapids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TiredFed — no, it’s pretty obvious on the face of it this was a delegation to White House handmaidens, but there’s still something weird about the delegation that I can’t put my finger on yet.  I’ve worked in a corporate legal and finance department, handled delegations of authority and the subsequent audit questions that came each year; this just doesn’t look like a delegation I would want to touch in front of an auditor, without even doing too much digging into the background.  It smells.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>masaccio 78 — no, only indicator so far is a report in a state-local newspaper that Chiara was located at an apartment in East Lansing MI; this suggests a few things to me, that she did obtain some role at MSU like the one she mentioned in the course of her emails inside DOJ, since MSU is located in East Lansing, more than 1.5 hours away from DOJ’s office in Western Michigan District in Grand Rapids.</p>
<p>TiredFed — no, it’s pretty obvious on the face of it this was a delegation to White House handmaidens, but there’s still something weird about the delegation that I can’t put my finger on yet.  I’ve worked in a corporate legal and finance department, handled delegations of authority and the subsequent audit questions that came each year; this just doesn’t look like a delegation I would want to touch in front of an auditor, without even doing too much digging into the background.  It smells.</p>
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		<title>By: glf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682402</link>
		<dc:creator>glf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even if any of the USAs did question that speech at the time, it would of been to another republican and they would of just made up some excuse as to how it was no big deal or ignored it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if any of the USAs did question that speech at the time, it would of been to another republican and they would of just made up some excuse as to how it was no big deal or ignored it.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682365</link>
		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy upthread..Bush’s ignorance of social graces for the well bred. This odd characteristic may be related to alcoholism. Have you ever seen videos of Bush campaigning for gov. in Texas? He was relatively articulate and nice looking. He looks like an old drunk now. So does his father. The last time I saw him on TV, he looked like the skid row type. When they pass out it’s not called fainting. Prescott also had that problem. It’s a disease but frightening for the leader of the most powerful country on earth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy upthread..Bush’s ignorance of social graces for the well bred. This odd characteristic may be related to alcoholism. Have you ever seen videos of Bush campaigning for gov. in Texas? He was relatively articulate and nice looking. He looks like an old drunk now. So does his father. The last time I saw him on TV, he looked like the skid row type. When they pass out it’s not called fainting. Prescott also had that problem. It’s a disease but frightening for the leader of the most powerful country on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: noen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682358</link>
		<dc:creator>noen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Palast&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’ve been here before. Gonzales is getting Libby’d. Takes the bullet for Karl Rove and the White House. If you wondered why the Republican jackals like the sinister Senator Specter piled on Gonzales — it’s because they were told to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These guys learned from Richard Nixon. In 1973, when Nixon was getting hammered over Watergate, he threw the Senate Committee his Attorney General, a schmuck named Richard Kleindienst. Famously, Nixon’s own Rove, a devious creep named John Erlichman, told Nixon to leave the Attorney General, “twisting slowly in the wind.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Specter does nothing that he hasn’t been told to do. He’s a made man, that how they work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palast</p>
<blockquote><p>We’ve been here before. Gonzales is getting Libby’d. Takes the bullet for Karl Rove and the White House. If you wondered why the Republican jackals like the sinister Senator Specter piled on Gonzales — it’s because they were told to.</p>
<p>These guys learned from Richard Nixon. In 1973, when Nixon was getting hammered over Watergate, he threw the Senate Committee his Attorney General, a schmuck named Richard Kleindienst. Famously, Nixon’s own Rove, a devious creep named John Erlichman, told Nixon to leave the Attorney General, “twisting slowly in the wind.”</p>
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<p>Specter does nothing that he hasn’t been told to do. He’s a made man, that how they work.</p>
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		<title>By: greenwarrior</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682340</link>
		<dc:creator>greenwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682103&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Other Pat @ 96&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682092&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cbl @ 86&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;How ’bout a little bell, like on a deli counter, for each questioner?&lt;br /&gt;
“I don’t recall.”&lt;br /&gt;
DING!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how about a cattle prod ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“We don’t torture.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;G’mornin’ all.&lt;br /&gt;
A cattle prod’s not torture - doesn’t cause organ failure or death.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-682092"><em>cbl @ 86</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>How ’bout a little bell, like on a deli counter, for each questioner?<br />
“I don’t recall.”<br />
DING!</p></blockquote>
<p>how about a cattle prod ?</p>
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<p>“We don’t torture.”</p>
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<p>G’mornin’ all.<br />
A cattle prod’s not torture &#8211; doesn’t cause organ failure or death.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank33</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682296</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682013&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LibertyLee @ 9&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682009&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Twisted Martini @ 5&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;At what point does Congress realize that the only way to take down bullies like Bush and Rove is with strength?  Gonzo’s defiance should be met with impeachment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is unlikely that Gonzales will resign or be impeached.  See:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10gonzales.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....ref=slogin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Gonzo can still &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Patrick_Gray_III&quot;&gt;twist, slowly, slowly in the wind.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Greg Palast says &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregpalast.com/dont-fire-gonzales/&quot;&gt;Let Gonzo Twist.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-682013"><em>LibertyLee @ 9</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-682009"><em>Twisted Martini @ 5</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>At what point does Congress realize that the only way to take down bullies like Bush and Rove is with strength?  Gonzo’s defiance should be met with impeachment.</p>
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<p>It is unlikely that Gonzales will resign or be impeached.  See:<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/10/washington/10gonzales.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05&#8230;..ref=slogin</a></p>
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<p>But Gonzo can still <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Patrick_Gray_III">twist, slowly, slowly in the wind.</a><br />
Greg Palast says <a href="http://www.gregpalast.com/dont-fire-gonzales/">Let Gonzo Twist.</a></p>
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		<title>By: noen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682227</link>
		<dc:creator>noen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has the hearing started I can’t get the C-Span link to work and NPR isn’t covering it at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has the hearing started I can’t get the C-Span link to work and NPR isn’t covering it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682211</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682034&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Twisted Martini @ 30&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another reason to say ‘Fuck the Fuckin’ &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagevoice.com/generic/show_print.php?id=76566&amp;page=&amp;issue=0719&amp;printcde=MzUzNjE3MzEzNA==&amp;refpage=L2FkbWluL2VkaXQvZWRpdC5waHA/JmNhc2U9dXBkYXRlJnNlY3Rpb249JmlkPTc2NTY2Jmlzc3VlPTA3MTkmbXNnPQ==&quot;&gt;Yankees&lt;/a&gt;!’&lt;br /&gt;
Looks like Drooliani was so in bed with them that he used to spoon with Steinbrenner.  (h/t Digby)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fuckin A. red sox nation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-682034"><em>Twisted Martini @ 30</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Another reason to say ‘Fuck the Fuckin’ <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/generic/show_print.php?id=76566&amp;page=&amp;issue=0719&amp;printcde=MzUzNjE3MzEzNA==&amp;refpage=L2FkbWluL2VkaXQvZWRpdC5waHA/JmNhc2U9dXBkYXRlJnNlY3Rpb249JmlkPTc2NTY2Jmlzc3VlPTA3MTkmbXNnPQ==">Yankees</a>!’<br />
Looks like Drooliani was so in bed with them that he used to spoon with Steinbrenner.  (h/t Digby)</p>
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<p>fuckin A. red sox nation.</p>
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		<title>By: TiredFed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/10/just-wrong/#comment-682189</link>
		<dc:creator>TiredFed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 13:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-682014&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rayne @ 10&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;‘Morning, Christy, FirePups!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Glad to see TRex made it safely to King Kobe’s abode, too, fell asleep last night before Late Night and missed the news.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In re: the delegation of authority — I’ve read and re-read this document and the memo attached, and there’s something just not right about it, putting aside the absurdity of handing over all hiring authority to Karl’s Mini-Me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can’t put my finger on it yet; Lederman covers a lot of the turf, but doesn’t assuage my nagging sense there is something more in that document we are missing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;could your nagging sense have something to do with the fact that delegations of authority are typically used to shift work to another decisionmaker? in this case, Sampson and Delilah were obviously not the deciders and Gonozo surely could not have delegated authority to Rove. seems to me a funny way to use delegations, but I think it makes some sense given that Rove wanted total control over DOJ.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-682014"><em>Rayne @ 10</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>‘Morning, Christy, FirePups!</p>
<p>Glad to see TRex made it safely to King Kobe’s abode, too, fell asleep last night before Late Night and missed the news.</p>
<p>In re: the delegation of authority — I’ve read and re-read this document and the memo attached, and there’s something just not right about it, putting aside the absurdity of handing over all hiring authority to Karl’s Mini-Me.</p>
<p>I can’t put my finger on it yet; Lederman covers a lot of the turf, but doesn’t assuage my nagging sense there is something more in that document we are missing.</p>
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<p>could your nagging sense have something to do with the fact that delegations of authority are typically used to shift work to another decisionmaker? in this case, Sampson and Delilah were obviously not the deciders and Gonozo surely could not have delegated authority to Rove. seems to me a funny way to use delegations, but I think it makes some sense given that Rove wanted total control over DOJ.</p>
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