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	<title>Comments on: Holding The Government To The Principles Of Its Constitution</title>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
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		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;mcjon via kos has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/9/171010/1867&quot;&gt;an update&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mcjon via kos has <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/9/171010/1867">an update</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Was looking at a documentary on LINK re. Iraq…A Dr. was running for office and the whole thing was about him and his life. He paid a visit to one of our concentrtion camps there. Was irate that a 9 year old child was being held. Wonder what that child did.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was looking at a documentary on LINK re. Iraq…A Dr. was running for office and the whole thing was about him and his life. He paid a visit to one of our concentrtion camps there. Was irate that a 9 year old child was being held. Wonder what that child did.</p>
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		<title>By: Save our Rights &#8212; Call congress now! &#171; Political Teen Tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Save our Rights &#8212; Call congress now! &#171; Political Teen Tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] Also from Firedoglake, The full list of Armed Services Committee members can be found here. Feel free to call the Republican members of the Committee, too — even though some of the Republican leadership on the Hill may have difficulty understanding the phrase “rule of law” or why it is important. (H/T to Nell for the link on that one.) More on the need for restoration of habeas from the NYTimes.      […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Also from Firedoglake, The full list of Armed Services Committee members can be found here. Feel free to call the Republican members of the Committee, too — even though some of the Republican leadership on the Hill may have difficulty understanding the phrase “rule of law” or why it is important. (H/T to Nell for the link on that one.) More on the need for restoration of habeas from the NYTimes.      […]</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To the well of the House with all of them!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the well of the House with all of them!</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/09/holding-the-government-to-the-principles-of-its-constitution/#comment-680669</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-680277&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 88&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee at 75 — Why do you assume that they were caught on the battlefield?  A large number of the folks in Guantanimo were turned over for bounties by rival tribes — we paid them to give us people that, in large numbers, have turned out to have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.  We are currently holding over 80 people who have had hearings in Guantanimo, been deemed to have been detained wrongfully and to have had no dealings with terrorism, attacks against the US forces or otherwise, but because we have held them in Guantanimo and branded them as “terrorists” for years now, no one wants them back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So we are stuck, indefinitely warehousing innocent people whose reputations we tarnished, who cannot go back to their homes or families — and we have held them for years — without being able to bring a single, solitary charge against them.  That is wrong.  And had they had access to habeas review earlier in this process, we would not have been holding them for years because the government would have been required to show proof that they were being rightfully and lawfully held.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Bush Administration is doing this in your name.  And mine.  And I, for one, have had enough.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/13/AR2005111301061.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/17/AR2006121700700.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0531-10.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2136422/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for starters on this.  And I can link up even more — this barely scratches the surface.  We are better than this, or we ought to be — and I refuse to act like we don’t have to follow the law or our ethical obligations because some scary terrorists yell boo.  We either live up to who we say we are, or we are nothing more than a shell game with an illusory Constitution and a sham king sitting on a throne marked President.  My ancestors did not fight for a free America for nothing — and I’m not about to shame myself by rolling over for another wannabe King George, either.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I don’t think the rest of us plan to either! Congress got us into this, now let them get us out, or let them get out! This is the Constitution the boy king is messing with!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-680277"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 88</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lee at 75 — Why do you assume that they were caught on the battlefield?  A large number of the folks in Guantanimo were turned over for bounties by rival tribes — we paid them to give us people that, in large numbers, have turned out to have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.  We are currently holding over 80 people who have had hearings in Guantanimo, been deemed to have been detained wrongfully and to have had no dealings with terrorism, attacks against the US forces or otherwise, but because we have held them in Guantanimo and branded them as “terrorists” for years now, no one wants them back.</p>
<p>So we are stuck, indefinitely warehousing innocent people whose reputations we tarnished, who cannot go back to their homes or families — and we have held them for years — without being able to bring a single, solitary charge against them.  That is wrong.  And had they had access to habeas review earlier in this process, we would not have been holding them for years because the government would have been required to show proof that they were being rightfully and lawfully held.</p>
<p>The Bush Administration is doing this in your name.  And mine.  And I, for one, have had enough.  See <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/13/AR2005111301061.html">here</a>, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/17/AR2006121700700.html">here</a>, <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0531-10.htm">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2136422/">here</a> for starters on this.  And I can link up even more — this barely scratches the surface.  We are better than this, or we ought to be — and I refuse to act like we don’t have to follow the law or our ethical obligations because some scary terrorists yell boo.  We either live up to who we say we are, or we are nothing more than a shell game with an illusory Constitution and a sham king sitting on a throne marked President.  My ancestors did not fight for a free America for nothing — and I’m not about to shame myself by rolling over for another wannabe King George, either.</p>
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<p>And I don’t think the rest of us plan to either! Congress got us into this, now let them get us out, or let them get out! This is the Constitution the boy king is messing with!</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-680163&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Greg L. @ 5&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hello all,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just had a short, terse conversation with one of the directors in Skelton’s office. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I didn’t request one, he picked up. Christy, I remained pleasant, honest. The impression was that they are getting hammered with calls.) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He wouldn’t give his name, just his title, and he insisted that this was too important a subject to be inserted in the bill. That it needs to be a stand alone, to see openly, who will vote for or against. When I asked when the new bill would be brought out, he said, this summer.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I mentioned the people who have been denied their rights, some for years now, he asked if I was a constituent. Told no, he suggested that I contact my own Representatives, and ended the call.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still calling, e-mailing, but, this does seem to be their plan, for now, anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apparently they were told to put a lid on it, because I just called them, made my point, and they said, thank you, and we’ll convey your thoughts to the chairman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-680163"><em>Greg L. @ 5</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hello all,</p>
<p>I just had a short, terse conversation with one of the directors in Skelton’s office. </p>
<p>(I didn’t request one, he picked up. Christy, I remained pleasant, honest. The impression was that they are getting hammered with calls.) </p>
<p>He wouldn’t give his name, just his title, and he insisted that this was too important a subject to be inserted in the bill. That it needs to be a stand alone, to see openly, who will vote for or against. When I asked when the new bill would be brought out, he said, this summer.</p>
<p>When I mentioned the people who have been denied their rights, some for years now, he asked if I was a constituent. Told no, he suggested that I contact my own Representatives, and ended the call.</p>
<p>Still calling, e-mailing, but, this does seem to be their plan, for now, anyway.</p>
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<p>Apparently they were told to put a lid on it, because I just called them, made my point, and they said, thank you, and we’ll convey your thoughts to the chairman.</p>
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		<title>By: liberal elite</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal elite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I called pelosi and skelton.  The clerks and jerks acted like they had no idea what i was talking about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;habeus corpus&lt;/em&gt;, what’s that?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called pelosi and skelton.  The clerks and jerks acted like they had no idea what i was talking about.</p>
<p><em>habeus corpus</em>, what’s that?</p>
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		<title>By: dmoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just spoke to Ike Skelton’s office and registered my support for restoration of Habeus Corpus.  The young man asked if I had called the reps from my state and I answered in the affirmative, giving both Loretta Sanchez and Ellen Tauscher’s names.  I also called Nancy Pelosi’s office.&lt;br /&gt;
As said, Action is the antidote for dispair.&lt;br /&gt;
(Now, I’m going to put up a cassarole for dinner.)&lt;br /&gt;
Am looking forward to watching the Gonzalez hearing tomorrow on C-Span, but I’m not very hopeful that you-know-who will be honest, forthright or shed any new information.  Still, it’s good to hold their feet to the fire.&lt;br /&gt;
Thank yous to Christy et all for being a guiding light!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spoke to Ike Skelton’s office and registered my support for restoration of Habeus Corpus.  The young man asked if I had called the reps from my state and I answered in the affirmative, giving both Loretta Sanchez and Ellen Tauscher’s names.  I also called Nancy Pelosi’s office.<br />
As said, Action is the antidote for dispair.<br />
(Now, I’m going to put up a cassarole for dinner.)<br />
Am looking forward to watching the Gonzalez hearing tomorrow on C-Span, but I’m not very hopeful that you-know-who will be honest, forthright or shed any new information.  Still, it’s good to hold their feet to the fire.<br />
Thank yous to Christy et all for being a guiding light!</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
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		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had to go out and turn over the soil in the garden but it seems things are in motion regarding the restoration of habeas corpus since this morning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this a proper summary?&lt;br /&gt;
    Due to the volume of calls Skelton decided to make this a separate bill and not include it in the Defense Department Authorization bill.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on another front&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    &lt;a href=&quot;http://restore-habeas.org/&quot;&gt;Dodd has another bill addressing the restoration of habeas corpus&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m horrible with phones but can e-mail. None of the representatives in the Armed Services Committee are from my district. Would it still be useful to e-mail all house members?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to go out and turn over the soil in the garden but it seems things are in motion regarding the restoration of habeas corpus since this morning.</p>
<p>Is this a proper summary?<br />
    Due to the volume of calls Skelton decided to make this a separate bill and not include it in the Defense Department Authorization bill.</p>
<p>on another front</p>
<p>    <a href="http://restore-habeas.org/">Dodd has another bill addressing the restoration of habeas corpus</a>.</p>
<p>I’m horrible with phones but can e-mail. None of the representatives in the Armed Services Committee are from my district. Would it still be useful to e-mail all house members?</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just e-mailed McIntyre, and pointed out one need look no farther than the current DOJ to understand the need for h.c.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just e-mailed McIntyre, and pointed out one need look no farther than the current DOJ to understand the need for h.c.</p>
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