Given that National Geographic has an article (via Scout Prime at First Draft) on the design flaws in the rebuilding of the New Orleans levees, and that folks in the Gulf Region are still working on digging themselves out from under the mess that was left behind from Katrina, this from Bob Herbert was a welcome read. It's behind the NYTimes firewall, so I want to quote a bit of it for everyone's reading today:
…Mr. Edwards, who announced his campaign for the presidency in the Ninth Ward, has stood by his commitment to make poverty one of his big campaign issues. I mentioned that poverty has not gotten much attention from the national media, and asked why middle-class Americans should care about the issue.
“First, you should care because it’s a moral issue,” he said. “It tells us something about the character of our country. And, by the way, I think most people do care about it. And second, you should care because if you want to see the American economy grow and strengthen over time, the strength and breadth of the middle class is a critical factor. When we have middle-class families struggling on the edge, falling into poverty or near poverty, those things weaken the American economy.”
It’s not a good sign, said Mr. Edwards, to have so much of the middle class hanging on by its fingertips at the same time that the ranks of the poor are growing. There are about 37 million Americans living below the poverty line, five million more than when President Bush took office.
In an essay in the recently published book “Ending Poverty in America,” which he co-edited, Mr. Edwards wrote: “The real story is not the number but the people behind the number. The men, women and children living in poverty — one in eight of us — do not have enough money for the food, shelter, and clothing they need. One in eight. That is not a problem. That is not a challenge. That is a plague.”…
It’s true that promises from politicians come at us like weeds on steroids. But the nation would get a clearer picture of the character, integrity and leadership qualities of individual candidates if the press would focus more intently on matters of substance.
As a rule, we’re much more interested in gaffes than in the details of a candidate’s position on a complex issue. We’re much more interested in sound bites than in sound policy.
That should change. We should give the candidates time to speak. And we should listen.
More substance. Less fluff. Wouldn't that be a nice change in political reporting for all of us? And, while we are at it, how about some follow-up on the mess that is still the Gulf Coast? Because the folks who live there are our fellow Americans and, honestly, the hot air and unfulfilled promises of the Bush Administration deserve a helluva lot more scrutiny than candidate haircuts and early campaign staffing ins and outs. Oversight and accountability — it's not just for Congress any more.
Related posts:
- Didn’t We Just Have a National Referendum on Obama’s Health Care Plan Last November?
- Health Care and Poverty: We are Failing Our Most Vulnerable
- The Max Tax: Baucus’ Plan Would Benefit Big Med and Shackle the Middle Class
- A Public Option in the Democratic Platform?
- Mike Ross Town Hall: Friday, August 14, Arkadelphia, AR





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Christy!
Zelda.
Another zed…
Substance AND Passion!!!
From last thread:
Prairie Sunshine @ 142
je suis desole, mon vieux…
[c’est “updated”]
Substance, we don’t need any stinking substance…..
me regrre….argggh, reading too fast.
Sorry, Biodun!
good morning Christy and gang!
you guys move so fast I have to choose between being EPU’d or O/T…
here is a link to a great speech by Arundhati Roy, Indian activist, for an interesting and stirring perspective on our unique position as US citizens. It’s fairly long, but do read the end about Empire.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0518-01.htm
It’s interesting that both she and a Vietnam official I heard quoted on Iraq/Vietnam comparisons a while back make a distinction between American government and the American people. It seems like people paying attention outside the US know we humble citizens can make a difference.
Biodun @ 4
sniff, sniff…I’ll manage
Substance Ptooey
We only need the unbridled passion of our animal instincts!
From dictionary.com:
My bold. Something lacking in the Bush Administration.
Check out your library if you want to avoid the Times firewall. Lots of libraries have databases accessible from the library, or from home. I can read the Timeselect stuff in the New York Times by doing that, and I can also get articles from the Times archive. There’s tons of other stuff too – newspapers, magazines, journals, dictionaries – everybody that hasn’t checked their library for stuff like that is possibly denying themselves access to a huge amount of free, useful information.
Poverty? Whatever. How about that haircut, huh?
/s
Christy -
Bob Herbert’s comments from which you quoted are now available on Truthout: More Than Just Talk
Sound bites should be illegal. During the weeks before an election, TV stations using the public airwaves should be required to donate time in half-hour blocks for interviews with all viable candidates.
In principle- the govt should produce a massive “voter’s pamphlet” for every election in which each candidate has the opportunity to publish their “plans” for office- fifty pages or so each- then BAN teevee and radio ads.
If ya wanna know what the candidates are in favor of- you’d have ta READ it.
It would never work of course.
Are we going to have to watch Howard Fineman pass judgement after each debate over who seemed more “presidential”.
That is not his call to make. It is our call to make when we vote.
And speaking of presidential timbre, how does that jibe with some twit who winks at the Queen of England? THAT’s presidential?
spurious @ 15
Bring back the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE
OT
Wandering around the Pentagon’s web site at: http://www.defenselink.mil/, I found that 80% of the surge troops for Baghdad (4 of 5 brigades) are now in place. The last brigade should be there by June 1.
“Once security is improved, the Iraqi people will be able to move forward,” Major General William Caldwell the military’s top public relations officer in Iraq said. “Our efforts may get harder before life gets easier for the Iraqis,” and “Military action is necessary (in Iraq) to provide the opportunity to reach long-term political solutions, but it alone is not enough.” No mention was made of how this was going to happen with the Iraqi Parliament taking July and August off.
Things look really bad right? But wait the Pentagon has nifty maps to prove this just ain’t so: http://www.defenselink.mil/hom…..ndex.html. 94 Iraqi battalions spread throughout the country are now described as “in the lead”. Except for Anbar, some neighborhoods in Baghdad, and a few other isolated areas, Iraq is a sea of green where the Iraqi Army is in the lead. Wow, it looks like the surge could really work, and we can soon pack up and come home even if those pesky politicians go ahead and take their 2 month vacation in the most critical months of the surge. Except, although the map is pretty, the math isn’t. A battalion has about 600 troops in it so we are talking about 60,000 Iraqi troops. Also what is meant by “in the lead”? Even if you can define it, how truthful is it to say that Iraqi troops are actually in the lead? Where are these troops located? Whom do they answer to? How many are Peshmerga in Kurdistan?
The surge will fail because it is built on a foundation of 4 years of failure and a worsening situation in Iraq. There were never enough troops or the generals with the smarts to lead them. There never was a mission. The Iraqi Army remains more a theoretical concept and a political prop than a reality. The Iraqi political leadership, real (Sadr, Hakim, the insurgents) or imagined (Maliki), has no interest in a political settlement that doesn’t look like a victory of one side over the other. But Bush, Cheney, and a herd of hypocritical Republicans will have their surge so Americans and Iraqis will continue to die to no purpose other than the strong desire of Republicans to duck responsibility for their fiasco for as long as possible.
looseheadprop @ 17
MSM has been desperately trying to find out what she said to him after that wink. She said something, that’s for sure. It may be something with substance. *g*
rwcole @ 16
Candidate produce these already. I’ve written policy documents for candidate (not presidential candidates). Huge, full of detail with footnotes and citations, charts and graphs, the whole nine yards.
Only policy wonks read them. Sometimes, after the election, they are pulled off the shelf and used by the governing policy folks to formulate actual governmental policy. That’s nice when it happens
No! Fluff is soft, comfy, and sleep inducing. Less fluff = cranky, awake, pissed off populace.
looseheadprop @ 18
Yes!
John Lott @ 12
As someone who works for an urban library, thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Lott for reminding people that public libraries are great resources and help bridge the “digital divide” with information, access to technology, programs, and services.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 24
Christy, are you asking for more backstory because a) you are just curious or b) because we’ve been spun one too many times by the R media machine? That is, could this just be some Americans sabotaging their own military but that wouldn’t look good? So this is attributed to “Islamic fanatic terrorists”?
God, I’m so tired of the force fed agenda and manipulation…
sweet jesus ! the whole quote is going up on the community board down at the Wag-A-Bag
along with a http://johnedwards.com, of course :)
OT but hacktacular Howie actually gets one correct today. But it is leavened by his usual a**hattery.
First the bad:
“Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure . . . Overall, 22% of all voters believe the president knew about the attacks in advance.”
Doesn’t say why he finds it chilling however.
Now the good (I think someone’s questions must have gotten through to him yesterday):
“In the middle of an article by The Politico’s Mike Allen regarding last night’s GOP presidential debate, one finds this paragraph:
“‘ She [Nancy Reagan] was escorted out of the hall by Frederick J. Ryan Jr., chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation, and president and CEO of The Politico.’
“So the President and CEO of The Politico, Frederick Ryan, is also the Board Chairman for the Reagan Library. And that makes sense, because Ryan is a long-time, hard-core Reaganite . . . The president and CEO of The Politico worked in multiple positions in the Reagan White House, and was continuously promoted until he rose to the level of Assistant to the President. And his close connection to the Reagan family and the Reagan presidency continues through today.
“Are we supposed to treat this fact as irrelevant or something when assessing what The Politico is and what type of political coverage it churns out?”
Media Notes
Prairie Sunshine:
I saw your correx @ 142 last thread…*g*
looseheadprop @ 17
Given the antics of some of her sons, I think the Queen is used to it. Doesn’t make it right, of course, but she’s seen it before.
*sigh*
So, unfortunately, have we.
looseheadprop @ 18
Hear! Hear! A great suggestion, made many times here at the ‘Lake. Let’s take ReddHedd’s exhortation from the last post to heart and keep pressing Congress to do this!
Hugh @ 19
But the Pentagon has just notified 35,000 additional troops that they should be prepared to deploy. WTF?
do-si-do @ 25
The BBC called this plot more aspirational than operational and so falls in line with the other terrorist plots uncovered in this country of dopey wannabes.
Are there back street wars between bushites and reaganites? Is Nancy leading a bloody revolution? Stay tuned!
You want substance? Take a look at the percent of children living in poverty, by state
rwcole @ 33
Like a war between the Gambinos and Genoveses? They are all stll criminals…
Hugh @ 32
Yes, sounds like dopey wannabes…but wouldn’t this be pumped up to be more than it is ie sinister vs. dopey to keep fanning the jingoistic flames?
Well, hope not. but that’s what went through my mind when I heard the story. I am becoming sooooo incredibly cynical when I heard stories about domestic terrorist arrests or gas prices…
spurious @ 31
Those are troops for later in the year to keep the surge going after the current 15 month deployments of those already in Iraq expire.
Gee, der lil monkey put KKKarl in charge of the NOLA rebuild. Wonder how that’s working out.
Here’s more from Statemaster: Bankruptcy filings percapita, by state
OT – White House: World Bank can be effective with Wolfowitz
Complement to me @ 11:
From dictionary.com:
My bold. Something Bush himself is full of.
Wolfie’s “Monica” – 2nd aide in trouble:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0508.html
Seems that the white house and the punditry are ditching “surge”- now it’s the “New Strategy for Iraq” and for goopers it’s “Petreus’s new strategy for Iraq”. Goopers are especially eager to cover up the fact that the “surge” was:
1) Clusterfuck’s PERSONAL stratergy that the military hated. This, of course, goes totally against the new grain that only generals can make decisions about the war.
2) Not a strategy at all- not even a tactic- let alone a “new” stratergy.
The “media” are lettin the goopers get away with this horseshit too.
Speaking of not-fluff, here’s this unbelievably depressing piece on child mortality in Iraq. To sum up, a child in Iraq has a 1 in 8 chance of dying before his/her fifth birthday from disease or violence.
1-in-8. 12.5%.
And worldwide?
As for the US:
I am beyond speech and outrage. Not sure what comes after.
MSM has been desperately trying to find out what she said to him after that wink. She said something, that’s for sure. It may be something with substance. *g*
I *really* thought I heard her say – “You’ll get it”.
As in – ‘keep trying moron, eventually you’ll get it right’.
rwcole @ 43
Coming…. Petraeus–new fall guy
the press has just been exercising its poetic lie-sense:
by the chores of gotcha!, gloomy.
Hey JayT, to answer your question from the other day, I shop often at the Do-it center in Fishers. We should grab a cup of coffee and chat! Hit me at dan AT twisted martini period com.
More substance from Statemaster. BTW, I hope you don’t mind my linking to statistical sources.
Best educated index, by state
“folks in the Gulf Region are still working on digging themselves out from under the mess that was left behind from Katrina”
Snowjob was on c-span earlier today attacking the governor of Kansas, using, almost ad verbatim, the same jibes they used against Gov Blanco in Louisiana… the admin is determined to repeat their Katrina performance yet again I’d like to point out that flood relief and largescale disaster response are the most basic and ancient functions of government.
sofistic @ 34
Thanks for this link. DC (at 33 percent) is the worst, our nation’s capital, in the backyard of the federal government. I’m glad to see MN down there (at 10 percent)…
twolf1 @ 40
OT – White House: World Bank can be effective with Wolfowitz
Or the prez could just declare the entire Board of Directors to be enemy combatants.
It’s not nice to
fool Mother Naturefire neo-cons.rwcole @ 43
I mean this in all kindness and sympathy: you think too much, rwcole!
Don’t get me started on the state of education and how it limits brain usage to regurgitation of preapproved pablum/curriculum. Take your medicine like a good citizen. Ugh.
punaise @ 47
By the swamp they call Potomac,
Was the wigwam called the White House…
sofistic @ 34
Ugh. 17 states & DC out of 51 have 20% or more children living in poverty. Only one state -NH -under 10%.
The Onion was right in January 2001: Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Over.
Blub @ 50
Bring Our Troops Home
To Take Care of Our Own….
just sayin’
OT, but looks important: about national required ID, found via C&L:
http://www.rawstory.com/showou…../#more-158
Christy, thank you for that YouTube video. I’d never seen it before, and it’s a visceral reminder of the depths of sadness and wrong in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. The tears return.
I want my country, and my hometown, back.
Hugh @ 37
That’s what the Pentagon says, but do we trust them?
sofistic @ 49
Another great resource is the Annie E. Casey Foundation’s Kids Count website. Fantastic information about how kids really live in America, gleaned from census data.
David Kuo would be a handy arrow in the Edwards 08 quiver – just left them voicemail wrt same :)
and in case you haven’t seen it -
Iraqi Blogger Shocked by Devastation in New Orleans
DKos
jayt @ 45
I *really* thought I heard her say – “You’ll get it”.
As in – ‘keep trying moron, eventually you’ll get it right’.
Perhaps she said “Don’t touch me.” Whatever it was, it was yet another proud moment for the Republic Party.
spurious @ 59
Hugh @ 37
spurious @ 31
But the Pentagon has just notified 35,000 additional troops that they should be prepared to deploy. WTF?
Those are troops for later in the year to keep the surge going after the current 15 month deployments of those already in Iraq expire.
–
That’s what the Pentagon says, but do we trust them?
–
Deploy. But where?
Twisted Martini @ 48
Hey JayT, to answer your question from the other day, I shop often at the Do-it center in Fishers. We should grab a cup of coffee and chat! Hit me at dan AT twisted martini period com.
Cool. Will do. My brother pretty much runs the place. Me – I couldn’t build a sandbox – I *am* pretty good at plumbing though (”You have a problem with your toilet – just go ask that guy right over there”)
I’m equally good at electric stuff (”talk to that guy in the orange shirt”). I’m a natural.
njprogressive @ 30
NO. The Fairness Doctrine is an unconstitional regulation intended to favor liberals who cannot make it otherwise on the public airwaves. There’s a reason Al Franken has to run for the Senate to get money to live. He can’t make it as a broadcaster.
and Gates has already said he is seriously considering extending it to 18 months deployment
punaise:
I might have gotten zed over you. But you’ll trump me in puning and wordplay any time… *g*
spurious @ 31
I wonder how the Bush family is handling their new and extended deployments. Oh wait. They do not serve. Prince Harry should have been a Bush.
Tony Snow criticizing Kansas Gov regarding response. Does this never end?
Link below (maybe). If it doesn’t work, go to CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITI…..index.html
twolf1 @ 40
White House weather forecast for tonight: Sunny.
Blub @ 50
Geez, that is just so friggin’ …expected! At first I was surprised to see your comment knowing that Senator Brownback and the local Rep are republican. I was watching Newshour last night wondering if the response to this disaster would be different than the Dem-party disaster of Katrina. My condolences to Governor Sebelius and the people of Kansas, fellow Americans.
Tony Snow needs to check himself again.
ot: drugging & deportation – “Today’s Daily Journal has a front page story by Sandra Hernandez reporting on the forcible drugging and botched deportation of two men by agents for the Department of Homeland Security. In both cases, she reports, airline officials at LAX refused to transport the deportees.”
http://www.laobserved.com/arch…..tation.php
jayt @ 45
I *really* thought I heard her say – “You’ll get it”.
As in – ‘keep trying moron, eventually you’ll get it right’.
So you don’t think you heard her say “We are not amused”? *g*
sofistic @ 49
Again, I’m glad to MN up there. But I’m confused ny the stats in negative (-). What does that mean? That you have more uneducated than educated folks in those states? WTF?
The real question is why THIS is not better known. Kudos to Edwards for focusing on it.
I’ve always liked John Edwards, so glad to see him come out on this issue – and so predictable that the MSM would have a negative reaction.
He has so many positives – he’s my guy for now, unless Al comes out (which I think he will). Al has earned it, and I think the two of them would make a knockout team.
I’m freeking tired of this administration accomplishing nothing, blaming everybody else for their screw-ups, and defending their corrupt cronies. Kansas and Wolfowitz have put me over the edge
Biodun – no harm, no foul! I rarely dabble in zeddery
itwasntme @ 57
slashdot had an article yesterday.
Biodun @ 66
Zeds are fleeting, puns are forever.
randiego @ 75
MSM wearing yellow bracelets of loyalty and electronic shock collars in case they timidly step toward facts and reality.
Preview is your friend:
Again, I’m glad to see MN up there. But I’m confused by the stats in the negative (-).
If you’re horrified by how Louisiana looks, check out Mississippi as well.
Prairie Sunshine @ 63
Iran?
Solai @ 76
Ummm. Yeah.
OT
Still Under Fire for Ohio Election Tricks, Kenneth Blackwell Regroups
Landslide Republican gubernatorial loser signs on with Tony Perkins’ Family Research Councilby Bill Berkowitz / May 3rd, 2007
Over the years he’s carried enough water for the GOP to fill up a good part of Lake Erie. He’s done enough dirty work to pave the Interstate from Cleveland to Columbus. He is credited with being part of the team that helped double President George W. Bush’s vote count among Blacks in Ohio in 2004, and is charged, by critics, of having tampered with that vote. So despite his humiliating defeat in the state’s gubernatorial election last November, he remains a darling of both religious and economic conservatives.
J. Kenneth Blackwell, the former undersecretary at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Human Rights Commission, mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio, and, most recently, that state’s secretary of state, has landed on his feet in the nation’s capital.
In mid-March, the Family Research Council (FRC) announced that Blackwell had been hired on as a Senior Fellow for Family Empowerment at Washington’s premiere right wing religious lobbying outfit. “Over the years, we have known and worked with Ken Blackwell on the toughest issues facing families and our country,” said FRC President Tony Perkins in a news release dated March 14. “We have witnessed Ken’s willingness to stand and fight for preserving marriage and defending the unborn. His unwavering commitment to tax relief and conservative fiscal policies has supported family enterprise.”
Blackwell speaks out against the Fairness Doctrine
Would it not have been refreshing for Tony Snow to say. “We are in contact w/ Kansas Gov., she gave a list of what is needed and it is now on it’s way to the disaster area.”
NOOOO, we get a slime job.
what a moving video, Christy
So what will the rest of the year look like politically?
The war is dominating everything and will continue to. Eventually we will get a bill to fund the madness that Clusterfuck won’t like very much but which he will sign- probably it will be funding for a shortened period of time.
In September, the General’s will report on how the “surge” is going. There will be 10 measures, three will be improved, three will be worse and four will be unchanged. The generals and the White House will ignore everything but the three that are “improved” and declare that “progress is being made”..There will be a giant pissing match that will go on for weeks- and the net result will be that there will be some “gettin real tough here” stuff from congress- but the war will continue- on double secret probation- through the first of the year when congress will promise ta give it another “good hard look” and maybe hold some “hearings”.
The holidays will be filled with cheerful images of soldiers gettin drunk in Iraq as they prepare to start the sixth year of the Clusterfuck war.
Legal Fight against Rumsfeld Heads to Spain
Attempts to prosecute Donald Rumsfeld in Germany for war crimes have failed — again. Now lawyers are planning to go after the former US Defense Secretary in Spanish courts.
If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again, goes the saying. To which could be added: try elsewhere. That’s the approach human rights activists who want to prosecute former US Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes are taking. They are now planning to file a lawsuit against the former US defense secretary in Spain after a lawsuit against him failed in Germany.
German federal prosecutors Friday rejected a lawsuit which had called for an investigation into alleged war crimes committed by Rumsfeld and 13 other high-ranking US officials, including current US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet, and Ricardo Sanchez, the former commander of all US forces in Iraq.
Berlin-based lawyer Wolfgang Kaleck, who filed the German suit last November, is now making plans to file a lawsuit against Rumsfeld and the other defendants in Spain. “We are exploring possibilities in other countries,” he told SPIEGEL ONLINE Monday. “We are in contact with lawyers who are well-informed about the legal possibilities in Spain, and we are already designing the Spanish case.” He stressed that he would first appeal against the German decision, and that the Spanish lawsuit would not simply be a “translation” of the German complaint, but would be specially drafted for Spain.
Kaleck is acting on behalf of the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), which is leading a coalition of human rights organizations who want Rumsfeld and the others to be prosecuted for war crimes. Their case is based on allegations that Rumsfeld personally ordered and condoned torture at US detention facilities including Guantanamo Bay and the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.
German federal prosecutors had already turned down a similar lawsuit in 2005, arguing that the US was responsible for holding any inquiry and that there were no signs that the US authorities and courts would refrain from doing so — a precondition for pursuing the case in Germany. In rejecting the new lawsuit, Federal Prosecutor Monika Harms cited the same reasons as before, arguing that the defendants should not be prosecuted in Germany because they neither reside in Germany, nor will they soon enter German territory.
The legal foundation for the Rumsfeld lawsuit was Germany’s Code of Crimes Against International Law, which came into force in 2002. The legislation allows genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes to be prosecuted in Germany, irrespective of where the crimes were committed or the nationality of those involved. The CCR argues that because the US has refused to join the International Criminal Court, it is the legal obligation of states such as Germany to take up cases under their universal jurisdiction laws.
The lawyers leading the case had thought they had a better chance of success this time than in 2005, as they had more documentary evidence as well as having Janis Karpinski, the former commander of US military prisons in Iraq, on board as a witness. More..
Betsy
In all fairness, Mississippi always looked like shit.
rwcole @ 88
Are you an optimist?
goin’ o/t
any cornhuskers here ??
your, um, Dem in the Senate is waffling on Iraq measures in congress – per Greg Sargent over at TPM – he’s all bescared the Repubs will slime him with the not supporting the troops jibberish
send him some love, and howzbout an LTE ?
I just faxed him this -
How Many More Senator Nelson ???
Ben Nelson contact page
rwcole @ 90
In all fairness, many many people are far worse off because of the hurricane and the failure to re-build.
spurious @ 59
As I posted in the last thread; I don’t think the military has a plan or really any idea how to get the troops out of Iraq. Steve Gilliard has made this point in the past; using his earth maps. The logistics of extracting the troops out of Baghdad is a nightmare. Bush, in a rare sane moment, may have been told that troop removal will likely be a bloody fiasco; his response is to add more troops in-order to run out the clock.
Bill Clinton announces AIDS drug deals
By KAREN MATTHEWS, Associated Press Writer Tue May 8, 7:48 AM ET
NEW YORK – Former President Bill Clinton announced agreements with drug companies Tuesday to lower the price in the developing world of AIDS drugs resistant to initial treatments and to make a once-a-day AIDS pill available for less than $1 a day.
The drugs to battle so-called “second-line” anti-retrovirals are needed by patients who develop a resistance to first-line treatment and currently cost 10 times as much, Clinton said. Nearly half a million patients will require these drugs by 2010.
Clinton’s foundation negotiated agreements with generic drug makers Cipla Ltd. and Matrix Laboratories Ltd. that he said would generate an average savings of 25 percent in low-income countries and 50 percent in middle-income countries.
Clinton also announced a reduced price for a once-daily first-line AIDS pill that combines the drugs tenofovir, lamivudine and efavirenz.
He said the new price of $339 per patient per year would be 45 percent lower than the current rate available to low-income countries and 67 percent less than the price available to many middle-income countries
The Clinton Foundation’s activities are being financed by UNITAID, an organization formed by France and 19 other nations that have earmarked a small portion of their airline tax revenues for HIV/AIDS programs in developing countries.
UNITAID will provide the foundation with more than $100 million to buy second-line medicines for 27 countries through 2008. More..
rwcole @ 91
That is just not nice.
Steve 95,
I’m thinking that the rumblings about September being the key month for the Republicans to bail on Bush have something to do with this. As you point out, removing a substantial amount of troops and/or equipment is an ominous and potentially deadly task (although I suspect the Iraqis will throw flowers and candy at them if and or when they leave). What better reason than to send 35,000 additional soldiers to “prepare and guard the road to Kuwait…”. It’s a thought anyway. If a substantial amount of troops are removed prior to the 08 elections, I wonder how much equipment they would leave behind for the Iraqis.
last week, Feinstein in the Senate – this week Jane Harman and Neil Abercrombie in the House
Congress members sponsor bill to shutter Guantanamo Bay
raw story
LS @ 98
Or BushCo figures it’s their last best chance for the Iran thing. Current “surge” a diversion….
looseheadprop @17
And speaking of presidential timbre, how does that jibe with some twit who winks at the Queen of England? THAT’s presidential?
He’ll give her a backrub at dinner tonight.
The surprising thing to me-more the fool,me, thinking that SOMEBODY might be marginally competent-is that MS Gov. Haley Barbour, former head of the RNC, didn’t have to deal with all of the partisan roadblocks thrown at Gov. Blanco in LA, and still couldn’t make it happen.
Prairie Sunshine @ 56
Each day now increases my amazement at how the shrub WH has managed to erode the Federal government’s capacity for even basic operations. Even as shrub has geometrically increased the shear scale and size of the government, they’ve managed to transform the agencies, at almost all levels, into a collection of feudal patronage mills which get next to nothing done and spend trillions doing it. Even basic functions, like drafting implementation rules for laws that the rethugs WANTED, are now beyond the cabinet agencies’ capabilities. Meanwhile, political commisars (from the Regent Universities of the world) roam around, obstructing any prospect for dissent, much less progress and/or innovation. … and much funding is now directed into newly structured propaganda/PR functions. Students of public administration will be studying the shrub transformation of the US government into a black hole, for generations.
Sorry to be absent in the thread for a bit, gang — had to run out to the doctor’s office myself. It seems The Peanut has passed along her case of strep to momma. SIGH
cbl at 26 — Yes, that number is a bit staggering, isn’t it?
RonD @ 102
Ding.
“Snowjob was on c-span earlier today attacking the governor of Kansas, using, almost ad verbatim, the same jibes they used against Gov Blanco in Louisiana… the admin is determined to repeat their Katrina performance yet again I’d like to point out that flood relief and largescale disaster response are the most basic and ancient functions of government.”
This administration seems determined to allow this country to fall apart city by city, town by town. If the natural disasters don’t get ya, the toxic food will. And don’t count on healthcare to do anything for you-nobody can afford it.
And if fucking up this country isn’t enough, they’ve gone into Afghanistan and Iraq (so far) and bombed those countries into oblivion.
Maybe we can ask the Queen to take us back. Anything’s better than the monsters running our country (into the ditch).
Christy Hardin Smith @ 104
Oh dear. Please take care of yourself and the peanut Christy!
Prairie Sunshine @ 100
I think it could go down something like this: They remove a bunch of troops from Iraq for election kudos, then they trump up nuclear claims immediately after the election but before the next president takes over, and then they attack Iran and possibly Syria (less likely at this point) by air during that window of opportunity.
Christy–
Hope the Peanut’s feeling better, that you’re relatively asymptomatic, and that antibiotics do their thing. And throw out your toothbrushes!
(And quick repeat of my thanks @ 58 for that video. Powerful.)
TexasBetsy@85
Blackwell is Exhibit “A” of the wingnut welfare program. He’ll pass from foundation to foundation picking up a check until the 2004 Ohio voter fraud cases catch up to him.
And they will.
It is against United States law and various status of force agreements the United States has to pursue a US government official in an alien court. We are not signatories of the ICC and only the Constitution and courts created under its jurisdiction are valid for US officials. Don Rumsfeld or any other official is valid and indeed it would be an act of War if any Nation other than our own attempted legal action against him.
You want substance? ABlog has the Colbert video: James Dobson, the Rosa Parks of Intolerance
Get Well, Christy…
gargle with hydrogen peroxide…
consume mass quantities of hot lemonade with honey and Jack.
Betsy
I am sometimes optimisitic.
hey – didn’t former Senator Man On Dog go to work for Tony Perkins and FRC ??? (mr. perkins be liking him some Ghouliani btw)
OT — Hugs to Christy and Peanut.
mc @ 106
Well, let’s consider that the holy rollers running over great nation think and work in metaphors and their metaphor for government is something small enough for Grover Norquist to drown in his bathtub. Mission accomplished.
Nola Sue at 109 — I found that video this morning when I was looking for a different one. It is a very powerful visual and musical combination, isn’t it?
You wanna see a total lack of substance? KindaSleazy Rice
The suggestion is for any young person considering joining the military and concerned about being killed or maimed in Iraq; don’t enlist.
Of course if you’re old enough to die in some desert in the Middle East, under a president that won’t even attend your funeral, I suppose you have that right to do so. Alternatively, a prospective enlistee could just say: hell no! I won’t go.
AP – The Pentagon has notified more than 35,000 Army soldiers to be prepared to deploy to Iraq beginning this fall, a move that would allow commanders to maintain the ongoing buildup of troops through the end of the year if needed.
More sliming of Sebelius, more reasons to do nothing to help. This time from Brownback. He’d make a great republican leader.
SOMEBODY SAY ‘WHAT DO YOU NEED, WE’LL GET IT TO YOU’
Oklahoma kiddo @ 119
Any word on how many of thos 35,000 have already served in Iraq?
cbl @ 99
Wouldn’t it be loverly?
New American hero, jane harman.
Prairie Sunshine @ 113
Sign me up for that!
Wizard minions of Oz – alive and well in Kansas.
A permanant surge.
Why would anyone in Iraq or the Middle East get the impression that the point of the American attack on Iraq was to permanantly occupy Iraq?
Condi Rice has just gone shopping for jackboots.
-GSD
Gore using Kerry’s email loop to prop Kerry’s book.
Hmmm…logrolling?
Or beginning of the rollout?
If Norquist, Rove, Cheney, Bush and the rest of the neocon nitwits want to choke off the government and drown it in a bath tub, fine and dandy. Let’s choke off the Pentagon. Don’t join!
LS @ 97
It isn’t just troops and equipment. Our privatized military will have to also evac. several hundred thousand mercs. and civilian support people. I don’t think we will be seeing too many flowers and candy when we leave. It will be RPG’s, IED’s and AK’s. The “mid-east honor code” will demand pay-back for all of the dead and maimed family members.
Lou Costello @ 118
this is awful —
do-si-do @ 123
Well, I’m not ready to give her hero status just yet – she’s still saying that the people held there are “the worst of the worst” – haters who cannot be rehabilitated.
Senator Blowback wants to be preznit and he takes on the Gov. who clearly doesn’t have all the equipt needed to help Greenburg ?? he could have simply kept his yap shut. – really, who is advising these people, and how much is Soros payin’ ‘em ?!?!?
Message is pretty clear to governors when disaster strikes their area: don’t ask for help, don’t point out what you need, don’t tell everyone what’s missing and depleted — or we will slime you. Kinda like Wilson/Plame, Blanco and Sibelius are just the latest examples of the GOP’s gotcha mentality for anyone who speaks truth to Dear Leader’s power.
That they are both distaff governors is no coincidence.
Can we start painting the Republicans as being only concerned about the Iraq war’s impact on their election chances in 2008 please.
-GSD
Texas Betsy @ 122
I can imagine substantial numbers of no-shows for this deployment.
Texas Betsy @ 130
I think computer programmers call this endless loop a “bug”. Bushies call it a “feature”.
GSD @ 126
but the prettiest jackboots evah!
According to the Army, the combat brigades would deploy for up to 15 months. The Army also said that close to 1,000 additional support troops from the U.S. Army Reserves would also deploy in August. Those would come from two units, an engineer battalion from Fort Thomas, Ky., and a signal battalion from Fort Huachuca, Az.
The 10 brigades are: the 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment in Germany; the 4th Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, Ga.; the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Brigades of the 101st Airborne Division from Fort Campbell, Ky.; the 3rd Armored Calvary Regiment from Fort Hood, Texas; the 2nd Brigade, 1st Armored from Germany; 4th Brigade, 10th Mountain Division from Fort Polk, La.; 2nd Brigade, 25th Infantry Division from Hawaii; and the 1st Brigade, 4th Infantry Division from Fort Hood, Tx.
The Republicans plan is to talk about protecting all Americans up until the very moment when rhetoric meets reality.
At that moment the message becomes “don’t wait for the government to save you”.
-GSD
OT..
In Maine, it’s official. Tom Allen is running for Senate against Susan Collins
http://www.americablog.com/2007/05/in…..en-is.html
I smell blood in the water
Fern @ 131
do-si-do @ 123
cbl @ 99
last week, Feinstein in the Senate – this week Jane Harman and Neil Abercrombie in the House
Congress members sponsor bill to shutter Guantanamo Bay
raw story
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Wouldn’t it be loverly?
New American hero, jane harman.
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Well, I’m not ready to give her hero status just yet – she’s still saying that the people held there are “the worst of the worst” – haters who cannot be rehabilitated.
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Well…yeah, ok. But I was reading that it was just a few of them that were the “worst”. I think this kind of language is what Rs hear and then she can’t be accused of being “soft” or “freeing terrorists”.
Whatever gets Gitmo closed and moves the legal proceedings forward, er, legally and proactively, I’m all for it.
TeddySanFran @ 133
But, if you’re a Republican governor, you operate by different rules. Ask for some help, but praise the President and the admin a lot, and you might get a little more attention. Or, at least the admin will continue to prop up your leadership, saying you are just great (as opposed to Democratic governors). You might not actually get much more aid, but at least you’ll look good.
jayt @ 45
I *really* thought I heard her say – “You’ll get it”.
As in – ‘keep trying moron, eventually you’ll get it right’.
I thought she said something like, “Get on with it,” but that sounds rather rude so I think you’re right.
Christy – great post!
Take good care of yourself. Some of us have had a nagging respiratory system infection for about two months. I’m on my third set of medicine, and while I get periods of several days when I think I’ve finally licked it, it comes back with a vengeance. The upside is that my doc says I need to rest, so I don’t have to feel guilty while reading FDL and still in my jammies at 2pm. :)
OT-I have a dilemna. I must take a day off in the next 10 days to take care of some personal business. Hate for it to be all work, no play. So, I want to take off on a day with interesting hearings. I’m thinking AGAG may not be any better than Comey. Any suggestions?
More Gooper blood in the water:
Ted Stevens’ Son Identified In Corruption Case
By Laura McGann – May 8, 2007, 12:11 PM
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003172.php
These two Vietnam dodging nuts Bush and Cheney are still fighting the Vietnam war and the culture wars from the 60′ and 70’s from their armchairs. That, oil, and empire is what this is all about.
According to many of the Religious Wrong websites I’ve unfortunately bummbled into, being poor is your own fault. It’s a character flaw.
And anyone who wants to help the poor is a “Bleeding-Heart Lib’rul”. And anyone who is a Lib’rul supports those evil gay people having rights.
And if the evil gay people have rights, or are able to marry – then they’re gonna FORCE good decent Christian folk into gay marriages…
So we have to keep the poor down or else we’ll all have to marry our dogs. Or something like that.
amen OK!
had me a civil confrontation with some Navy recruiters yesterday – a 19 year old I work with took me grocery shopping – and they had clocked him before he even got out of the car
this hippie mama lion kept herself between them and their quarry and they really didn’t like it when I asked them about Sailors being asked to don a Marines uniform and ride shotgun in Baghdad
it hurt to come from a Navy family and have to do this, but they don’t get anything until that murderous imbecile is gone
They are going to have to repeal the AUMF. They need to make Blackwater mercenaries illegal. They need to do it now and only offer a bill for funds to support the removal of the troops. They need to pass the bill for Katrina. Maybe they should just go ahead and impeach all of them right now. Start with Gonzo, then Rice, then Cheney, then Bush – just do it now. They will never, ever cooperate; they are going to have to be frogmarched out of there. Throw every law they’ve broken at them.
I say to those contemplating joing the armed forces: do you want to be killed in a war we have already lost? Lost a long time ago.
“Big oil men who own war companies, making war in oil countries!” Any questions? Before you ENLIST!
Sewmouse @ 148
Oh, NOW I get it. Thanks.
Logic class anyone?
Oily, oily income free!
Chevron admits they knew Iraq was playing games with the oil for food program.
Who could have known?
Cue the Condi Rice theme song.
-GSD
Still a little sodden here in KS, but no real flooding …on my side of the street. Someone across the street is pumping out and the wet carpeting is piling up on the curb.
I heard a longer piece on the radio from someone in the National Guard. He was saying that they can cover Greensburg, but they don’t have the vehicles to haul what they need to Greensburg. They also can’t cover Greensburg, plus the flooding up in central and eastern KS. And as to borrowing equipment from neighboring states? He said that 1. those states are often hit by the same weather systems and 2. neighboring states have the same shortages. Borrowing from further states is an issue of timeliness (can’t get it here fast enough). He also mentioned that lack of equipment means that he can’t train current people here enough on the equipment. He said they were short of rescue equipment for high water rescue.
Oh, and more rain is predicted.
But none of this is unique to Kansas. This state is trying to pull back the curtain on the wizard, but Brownback is trying to keep the curtain up.
Jane’s new thread: Heroes and Villains
Oklahoma kiddo @ 145
Chicken Hawk Roosting Area
back to Ft Dix for a moment -
anyone remember the 60 min story about NYC man brokering arms for his folks in Kosovo ?
my suspicions about them ginning something up will harden if he gets mentioned – jes sayin’
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/…..02T040.htm
Link to an interesting page- percentage of population with a college degree by state.
Pretty clear correlation between college education level and blueness of the state.
“War on Energy” The most regressive tax on American society has been the cost of energy. The upward trend of oil cost started in 1973 with the first OPEC Embargo, bled America and continues to bleed our country, negative balance of trade, while the Oil companies have made more money than ever and the executive branch spends 400 billion and American blood to keep us addicted to monopolized energy/oil, for their profit. Get the Picture, if we had freed up billions of dollars on lower energy cost we could take care of poverty, health insurance education, those things that would keep America great Rather than, being addicted to oil like big tobacco want to maintain addiction to cigarettes. Any “war on Poverty” would fail if the energy question is not answered. TIME TO BREAK UP THE OIL MONOPOLY!!!!!!!!!!
New Thread
Oklahoma kiddo @ 138
I always found it funny that the Pentagon neverhad any problems publishing information about troop deployments but that Congress members and the Bush Administration would go into hysterics about benchmarks with deadlines. Somehow the first isn’t considered telling the enemy what you are doing while the second is. In other words, it is just another made up argument.
cbl @ 148
My sister has a picture of her Naval Officer son, on her fridge; wearing his Marine uniform when he was sent to Iraq.
GSD @ 139
Nails!
there is a new thread from Jane upstairs
Sewmouse, that sounds very much like things I’ve read in such sites, too.
Your post made me think it was time to check the Rapture Ready Index, an index managed by people who seem to want to have the Rapture come soon. Apparently, the Rapture index has gone down as of yesterday – because of a fall in the “Liberalism” category (caused by Sarkozy’s election in France). What I always find interesting is that there are people cheering on the idea that the Rapture is coming, many rooting for our invading Iran to encourage events that will bring the Rapture. Yet, since they say the rise of Liberalism would in fact bring about the Rapture sooner, why don’t they support Liberal candidates? By electing liberals, wouldn’t they be calling Jesus to come and save everyone again?
1 District of Columbia 42.5 41.2 43.8
2 Massachusetts 35.5 34.7 36.3
3 Colorado 33.5 30.4 36.6
4 Maryland 33.1 32.1 34.1
5 Connecticut 32.9 31.7 34.1
6 Virginia 31.7 30.7 32.7
7 New Jersey 31.6 31.1 32.1
8 Vermont 30.8 29.6 32.0
9 New Hampshire 30.2 29.0 31.4
10 Minnesota 29.8 29.0 30.6
11 Washington 29.7 28.5 30.9
12 New York 29.3 28.8 29.8
13 California 28.5 28.2 28.8
14 Illinois 28.1 27.1 29.1
15 Alaska 28.0 26.7 29.3
16 Hawaii 27.9 26.7 29.1
17 Utah 27.3 25.5 29.1
18 Kansas 26.7 25.2 28.2
18 Rhode Island 26.7 25.5 27.9
20 New Mexico 25.9 24.1
Top twenty states in terms of percentage of population with college degrees. Mostly blue with a few notable exceptions- including Colorado and Virginia. Notice which states moved to the left last election?
Here’s the bottom 20 in terms of college degrees:
31 South Dakota 23.6 22.0 25.3
34 North Carolina 23.4 22.2 24.6
34 Wyoming 23.4 19.9 26.9
36 Arizona 23.2 22.2 24.2
36 Wisconsin 23.2 22.0 24.4
38 South Carolina 22.7 20.2 25.2
39 Idaho 22.6 21.0 24.3
40 Iowa 22.2 21.0 23.4
41 Ohio 21.9 21.4 22.4
42 Tennessee 21.0 19.8 22.2
43 Oklahoma 20.7 19.9 21.5
44 Alabama 20.6 19.8 21.4
44 Indiana 20.6 18.3 22.9
46 Louisiana 20.4 19.2 21.6
47 Arkansas 19.7 18.5 20.9
48 Kentucky 18.8 18.0 19.6
49 Nevada 18.6 17.6 19.6
50 Mississippi 17.7 16.5 18.9
51 West Virginia 16.1 14.8 17.4
Pretty much a red state paradise with the surprising exception of Wisconsin. Arkansas and La. are not as red as most others on the list- and Ohio appears to be recovering from it’s bout of gooperism- but the correlation is certainly striking.
Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.
Thomas Jefferson, speech, 1808
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)
FOR THE CHRISTIAN FASCIST / And Bernard LAW
Once 25% of the population gets a college degree, gooperism virtually disappears. Interesting!
“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)
“Then came the War against Terrorists”
The Minutemen or the Insurgent, I can’t recall!!!!
“There is no form of government but what may be a blessing if well administered, and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.”
-Benjamin Franklin at the Constitutional Convention, 1787
rwcole @ 170
Well, presumably they do teach you a few things in college, say, the difference between 1976 and 1776 and why British royalty can’t live to the ripe old age of 230 … but I presume this means you don’t go through Yale in a drunken stupor, never actually attending classes or cracking a book.
Blub @ 103
They are wasting Billions to protect Corporate oil interests. Check out Veco’s mission statement at their web site. What a joke!!!!
The Alaskan Oil Bribe, “Tip of the Iceberg”
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 138
All of these have had at least one tour in Iraq, except for one of the 101st Brigades…which served in Afghanistan. Whats odd is that the 1st Brigade, 4thn Infantry just returned from Iraq. They are already talking about sending them back again?????
Steve @ 146
Clearly another plot by the WH and Gonzo to imply that he really WASN’T telling his Attorneys to go soft on Republicans, and target Democrats before the 2006 elections.
Wait a sec…it’s 2007….and Bush isn’t running for President again! More important to toss a few sacrificial lambs on the blazing BBQ of Conngressional investigators to make sure that the Presidents former lawyer doesn’t start to squeal like infected pork roast!
West Virginia may have a low percentage of college grads, but politically it’s history is coal miner’s, unions and Democratic governors & federal gov. reps. Our only Republican rep in my lifetime is the current one and she’s the daughter of a former governor, so she has reputation and credibility. Mostly we’ve been Dem until the last couple of presidential elections where Bush “won”. How he won, but we got a Dem governor at the same time, is a mystery. Must be dem little black boxes we’ve been using to vote on.
I’d agree that once the collegiate grad level increases there’s more Dems in charge. However, there’s a chicken & egg question to solve: which comes first, high tech information industry jobs or intelligent college grads?
We in WV don’t have a lot of high tech jobs, so most of our grads have been moving out of state (thus fewer WV grads in the current state population).
Maybe you need to check the percentage of college grads for people born in a state, rather than those currently residing there. In some states there was a mass exodus during the depressing 1980s. In a few states like WV that slowed during the 1990s, but the escape is probably going on today.