Er… you don’t think this guy was veted before he worked with Feith?

Oh and didn’t you guys who were on the ground look into who his friends were?

“…Mr. Carney’s campaign certainly caught the attention of some major players in the Bush administration’s decision to go to war. Richard Perle, the former senior adviser to Mr. Rumsfeld who was an influential advocate of war with Iraq but has more recently criticized the administration’s conduct of the war, was the host of a fund-raiser for Mr. Carney…”

http://globalparadigms.blogspo…..chive.html

I mean — Hello! If you dance with the major neocons then of course expect that his focus and priorities aren’t going to be social issues… nuff said.

“What did Carney have to gain by opposing this bill? Are far right bigots a large component of his constituency?”

In a word, yes. I’m PA-10, and you can’t believe the kneejerk racism and bigotry in this district, from both Democrats and Republicans. It’s not called the Alabama of the North for no reason.

I am sick to death of not have LEADERS. What do leaders? They lead by example. They do things like Carter did in 1976 and go on tv at primetime and demonstrate how to turn the thermostats down to save energy and demonstrate how you put on a sweater if your chilled.

They lead.

So PA is red and bigoted. So you just keep giving them a bigoted policy so they feel good about themselves. This ‘anything to save my own damn job’ type of leadership is BS. I love Kucinich more everyday.

In a word, yes. I’m PA-10, and you can’t believe the kneejerk racism and bigotry in this district, from both Democrats and Republicans. It’s not called the Alabama of the North for no reason.

That being said, I’m pissed as hell, as I gave to him and I voted for him. But really, there’s no one more left-wing that would have any chance at all up here. It’s a straight red district, and the only reason Carney won was Sherwood’s idiocy. in 2008, look for everyone to just pull the Republican lever again.

Call the credit card company that you used and file a DISPUTE of charges. The reason: false advertising of the product.

You can dispute any charge you like and the credit card company is obligated to contact the billing company (candidate) to investigate. And such dispute investigations? Probably doesn’t bode well for the credit-worthiness of the candidate, imo. Looks real bad.

This worked like a charm for me. I forced Howard Dean to return a $250 donation. Yeah, I love Dean in his DNC position but I gave to his campaign early based on his support for lifting the embargo on Cuba and for his alleged support for the Palestinians. A couple of months later after he hit the bigtime (August 2003), he completely flipped. Sorry, not giving one red dime to pro-aipac aggression in any form.

Anyways, the Dean campaign dicked around with me for a month and pretty much laughed in my face about wanting a contribution back. I called AmExp to initiate the dispute investigation. Et voila, a week later, I got a campaign check refund.

Until G.W. Bush and his enforcer, Karl Rove, came along it was common for Republican politicians to tell one group one thing and another group another thing to get their endorsements, their support and their contributions. That all stopped rather quickly when the Enforcer came down on the offenders with an iron fist.

For a long time, politicians would go to the Christian Right and tell them they agreed with their agenda, take their endorsement, their support, their work and their contributions and then once elected go off on their merry way and promptly forget about all those promises they had made to support all those sundry Christian Right pet projects and work to pass their legislative initiatives. This all stopped once the politicians were held accountable for their bad behavior. Few politicians would dare cross the Religious Right nowadays.

So, unless you hold offenders accountable for their actions when they go off to Congress, you can expect more of the same. Not all politicians do it but a lot of them do it. You have to let politicians know that you will hold them accountable for their actions. Of course, you may find that some politicians, once elected, may decide they don’t need you anymore and go on their merry way. There’s not much you can do about this, yet. At some point you’ll become powerful enough that politicians wouldn’t dare take your money and bolt. In the meantime, all you can do is vet the candidates and trust them to do the right thing. Most of them will be people of good character and good faith. Occasionally, one or two may turn out to exhibit bad character and bad faith. When they do, it’s time to lower the hammer on them so that the next politician who comes along, who doesn’t have any qualms about taking your money and running, doesn’t do it because he doesn’t want to suffer consequences.

Murder is murder.

Assault is assault.

That being said, I utterly respect Mr. Klein for immediately bringing the lie that Representative Carney told to those who donated to his campaign based on how he would specifically vote on such a bill to everybody’s attention. That shows real leadership, real courage, and a genuine respect for those with whom he works. That should also show all of us that Mr. Klein, at least, is as good as his word. Kudos to you, sir!

Now if only Rep Carney could be convinced to give back all of that funding as a message to anyone else.

Regardless, Rep. Carney should be told, point blank, “You lied. You are cut off. Don’t expect Blue America’s help the next election cycle. Oh, and we just might give our money to someone else in your primary, to boot, buddy.”

so easy to recognize, even when it’s

so hard to see.

It’s a hard thing to legislated against. I understand both sides of the argument, and both sides have several good points.

At the risk of going way off topic, the nationalistic fervor that followed 9/11 really worried me. I was as sad about the event as the next guy, but when I started seeing all these American flags everywhere I started to get really nervous. There were some reprisals against foreigners, but luckily it never got as bad as I thought it may. Thank God. But the same thing could happen again, and the second time around is bound to be worse. I’d really hate to see this country consumed with Nazi-Germany style nationalism. It’s a pretty scary thought.

I’d feel more comfortable if there were strong hate-crimes legislation on the federal books. I’m aware of the trade-offs but in this case I think we have to be pragmatic.