1,510 dayz and the killin’ goez on and on and..

Citizen farender:

Please don’t bring that poor abused South shit into this conversation. The “conservatives” in the southern mainstream politics are not ideologically one bit different from the mainstream of southern citizenry pre-1860. The fact that their ideology and bloodthirsty rhetoric appeals to some in the rest of the country makes my point about the malignancy of this particular brand of fascism.

We did not complete Reconstruction and we re-enfranchised the political and social leadership far too early…my God man, wake up and come to grips with your history, there is nuthin’ “heroic” about the Antebellum South or the reality of the Confederate slavocracy. No one said that everyone from the South is a fascist…I will stand by my belief, however, that southern “conservatives” and Dixie revivalists are fascists pure and simple.

KEEP THE FAITH, THE TRUTH WON’T HURT YOU BUT THE FASCISTS WILL!!

well, thanks for calling my comments shit, Norske. that’s a brilliant refutation. the truth is, we’re talking past each other. you’re not listening to me and what i said. you can write off the South if you want to. i am not an appologist for the horrendous evil that has existed there. it is true that television and hollywood has created an impression about southerners that is true of some but not of others. people like you and brendan seem to have bought that image hook line and sinker. unfortunately, if this image continues to prevail the racists in the South have more power than they would otherwise, and it’s a pity because it doesn’t have to be that way. Howard Dean understands this. maybe you should listen to him.

At first it was embarrassing, but now we take people out to look at it and enjoy the stupid.

For those of you who didn’t hate Harold Ford Jr. enough – here’s a little snippet of how far he’d fallen before deciding to head up the DLC…

CONGRESSMAN FORD RETRACTS STATEMENT

Congressman Harold Ford, Jr., (Democrat — Tenn.), under pointed questioning from NBC-TV news reporter Anna Marie Hartman (Ch. 5, Memphis), has retracted his critical comments concerning Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Utilizing historical facts and suggested questions from Lee Millar, Public Affairs Officer for the Sons of Confederate Veterans (N. B. Forrest Camp 215, Memphis, & president, Forrest Historical Society), Ms. Hartman pressed Congressman Ford to clarify his previously stated intention to ask presidential candidate, and fellow Tennessean, Al Gore to publicly denounce the presence of a prominent Forrest bust in the Nashville Capitol along with a landmark Forrest Statue in Memphis.

Congressman Ford had issued a press release Tuesday, Aug. 1, 2000 calling for a public press conference with Vice President Al Gore to denounce General Forrest and his career as a Confederate cavalry leader and later a reputed member of the Ku Klux Klan.

On Wednesday, Aug. 2, under questioning by TV reporter Anna Marie Hartman, pointing out that General Forrest was a brilliant military commander, enlisted 65 black troopers in his cavalry, was a prominent civic leader, had disbanded the Ku Klux in 1869, and had promoted black employment opportunities after the war, Congressman Ford conceded that Forrest was indeed a hero in the South.

When told that his comments had offended the Sons of Confederate Veterans, historians, and others, Ford brusquely replied, “I don’t want to offend the Sons of Confederate Veterans, or anyone else, and the matter is dropped!!” Upon further prompting from Ms. Hartman, Congressman Ford stated that he had not presented this to Vice President Gore and had no further intentions of bringing it up.

I’ve heard the quote, “Firstest with the mostest,” all my life and never knew that it was Nathan Bedford Forrest who supposedly said it. Regardless, it is a piece of pithy common sense and as such is imminently quotable without necessarily implying approval of the supposed originator’s more reprehensible opinions.

And as for those, Nathan Bedford Forrest came to regret his involvment with the KKK and his earlier actions at the Battle of Fort Pillow. He recanted those “opinions” that led him into those reprehensible actions and even went so far to contact and meet with the newly formed NAACP to express his contrition. Strange but true. I find it ironic, given this, that neo-confederates still consider him a kindred spirit.

Mandrake #176

Don’t forget Kentucky, who didn’t secede, either.

The battle line of the Civil War and the 2006 elections were pretty similar. We fought from Maryland to Virginia to Tennessee (no big battles in Kentucky in 2006) over to Missouri and down the Mississip to New Orleans with a few skirmishes in Texas too. As a school teacher friend of mine called it, ‘the Hook’.

The final battle couldn’t be at Appomatox, but it did end in eastern Virginia when Webb won the day.

Who knows what those wild men in Montana were doing. How the heck did they end up electing a progressive like Tester? He must be one great politician.

Is West Virginia considered a southern state? Do they still serve Mello Yello there?

It all depends upon where you live.

If you’re a Northerner, then W.Virginians are Southerners.

If you’re a Southerner, then W.Virginians are Northerners (Yankees).

If you’re a Mid-Westerner or Westerner, then W.Virginians are Eastern (or back East).

If you’re an Atlantic Coaster, then W.Virginians are … oh, I don’t know, probably Mid-Westerners.

I like to say we’re in the Middle East, but nobody really gets the humor of that. He he.

Don’t hate me just because I’m wickedly funny. You don’t even know me.

I recently saw “The Good Shepherd”

Care to give us a 3 sentence review of the movie and a rating of 0 (pits) to 5 (okay) to 10 (sublime)?