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Hats off to David Mills, writing as "Undercover Black Man", who lobbed a grenade into David Horowitz's little foxhole, "FrontPage Magazine" and got one especially nasty little racist toad taken right off the FP roster (via Wolcott). It's like they say, if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit.
What happened, Mr. Mills?
One year ago, right-wing activist David Horowitz seemed convinced that Lawrence Auster, an occasional contributor to his FrontPage Magazine website, trafficked in "racist" ideas. And he seemed to cast Auster out.
I had sent Horowitz and Jamie Glazov, FrontPage's managing editor, an 11-page letter detailing Auster's views on race, as expressed on Auster's own blog.
(For example, his description of black people collectively as "the savages.")
Concerning my letter, Horowitz emailed Glazov and me on May 14, 2006: "I think it's a persuasive argument for not running Auster unless he publicly repudiates these positions which are racist and offensive."
Sure enough, Auster's essays didn't appear in FrontPage Magazine after that.
Well, that seems unusually ethical and above-board for Horowitz. Maybe he-
Until today.
Oh.
Yes, Lawrence Auster is back, alerting David Horowitz's readers to an epidemic of black-on-white rape.
Well, it's not like that's a hot-button issue or anything. Nobody's ever used a mythical threat of black-on-white rape to foster race hatred and violence in the good ol' US of A, have they? Like, ever?
But what evidence do you have that Mr. Auster is a racist? Are you sure you're not overreacting, here?
His assessment of "black inferiority" was spelled out in an essay originally written in 1995 but published in 2003 in a racialist journal called The Occidental Quarterly. (It is archived on Auster's blog.)
Auster, convinced of "an inherent, dangerous weakness in black ways of thought," argued that blacks are profoundly different from white people.
"Through numerous experiences and observations, I started to have the sense that blacks are more 'non-objective,' they understand things in a much more personal, subjective way than whites," Auster wrote. "They seem to have much less interest in knowledge or beauty for its own sake." Which means that "blacks are in fact less endowed with the qualities that make civilization possible, particularly Western civilization."
Ohhhhh.
Well, clearly, Auster is a racist dickhead who dresses up what is basically 1850's Reconstruction Era racist cant in a tissue-thin veneer of academic language and then wants to know why liberals are so hysterical that they won't just sit down with him and calmly debate that blacks and other non-whites are morally and intellectually inferior to Great White Hunters like him. Mills is right to call out Horowitz on this one, for whatever Horowitz's intellectual and moral failings may be, he does at least try to play-act at respectability, and this tripe of Auster's is just a little too...obvious for FrontPage, methinks.
So, Horowitz moved to cut his ties with Auster.
And that's where the fun starts!
Let's go to Auster's blog, shall we? What's the little Uptighty Whitey got to say for himself?
Horowitz expels me from FrontPage
(Note: When I was first drafting this blog entry, I did not quote verbatim David Horowitz's e-mails to me, but paraphrased and summarized them. However, when I received his final e-mail, in which he totally refused to give any explanation for his behavior and rudely severed our relationship, at that point I felt I had the right to tell how he had conducted himself toward me, and the only way I could do that was to quote his e-mails in full.)
Oh, goody! *claps tiny forelimbs with delight* This ought to be fabulous! Why, there's absolutely nothing in the world I'd enjoy more tonight than a slap-fight between two men who are so histrionic and intellectually dishonest that they make DANGERSTEIN look like the goddamn Dalai Lama.
Here's how it started. This morning I wrote a friendly note to Israeli writer David Hornik, with a cc to David Horowitz, agreeing with Hornik's article today at FrontPage Magazine about the report on the Israeli government's actions in the war last summer. A few minutes later David Horowitz sent me a reply to that e-mail. Horowitz said:
Are you unaware that you have been attacked--and I through you--on Huffington Post?
He gave no further details, but I figured it was probably David Mills, the Undercover Black Man, who I knew from Google listings had been attacking me lately, though I had not actually read any of it.
Oh, bad call, Auster. Know thine enemy and all that.
That David Horowitz had had such an exchange with David Mills last year was news to me. Until my piece at FP this week on interracial rape, I had sent Horowitz several article submissions and article ideas over the last year, mostly dealing with the Islam issue (and none of them, to my memory, dealing with race), and they had all been rejected; I simply figured the pieces were not right for FP. Now it turned out that something else was going on. But I had had no way of knowing that. Horowitz, for whom I've been writing for over five years, and with whom over the years I have exchanged several hundreds of e-mails on intellectual topics in addition to e-mails relating to my work at FrontPage, had never told me about any of this.
On reading Mills's post, I wrote to Horowitz and asked him if he had sent such an e-mail to Mills. He responded with a one-word e-mail:
Yes.
Oh, "Professor" Horowitz. Surely you didn't think you could get away with just that, did you? You just told Auster you cheated on him with a (gasp!) LIBERAL WRITER! GACK!! Ah, god! He's not going to take that lying down!
I wrote back:
Doesn't this require more explanation from you? You never told me this. You never told me you weren't going to publish me unless I repudiated certain positions. You never forwarded to me the material from Mills that led you to decide you wouldn't publish me any more. You told David Mills, a complete stranger, that you weren't going to publish me any more, but you didn't tell me.Further, since you decided, without telling me, that you wouldn't publish me any more, why are you still publishing me now?
Uh, obviously, Horowitz thought Dave Mills wasn't paying attention anymore and had some extra column inches to fill, and...
Horowitz replied:
Lawrence you're a big pain in the ass.
Someone please note the date and time. David Horowitz tells the truth!
One article from you takes more time and energy than 50 articles from 50 writers and gets me attacked and now is getting me the third degree from you. We have had many arguments over your racial attitudes as you know. I don't think you're the kind of racist this prick Mills describes you as (and if I can find it I will send you the email I sent him defending your current piece). But I do think you have made statements that are racist. I have a million enemies out there and I don't need attacks waiting to happen by publishing your stuff. I published this piece because I forgot my exchange with Mills last year and my overall impression of your work is that it is interesting if obtuse. I forgot I guess also how difficult you are to work with. I'd like to see you defend yourself against the charges Mills is making rather than attacking me.
In other words, "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! I'm so big and important and now YOU want a piece of me?! Oh, thankless, thankless child! WAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!"
Now, for those of you keeping score at home, we have two fact-free, reactionary, histrionic Right Wing gasbags locking horns via email. Who do you think will call the other a Nazi or a Stalinist first? I'm putting my money on Auster. Of the two, he seems to be the less, shall we say, "restrained" in his rhetoric.
I replied:
You told this stranger a year ago that I was a racist and that you wouldn't publish me any more, and you never told me about this, and now, because I've found about this and have asked you to explain, you call me a "big pain in the ass"?Is this really the way you want to address me? Is this the way you want to address this issue?
Hee! Here comes The Bluster, soon to be followed by The Threats, which will inevitably be followed by The Usual Tears and Recriminations. Right Wingers always talk the toughest right before the big fat tears leak from their eyes and roll down their flushed, overheated faces.
You write:
I'd like to see you defend yourself against the charges Mills is making rather than attacking me.I've never ever heard about these charges until today, because you never told me about them. And now because I'm asking you to explain, you say that I'm attacking you?
Please think carefully before you reply and don't reply off the handle.
Or what, Lawrence? What are you going to do if Horowitz snots off at you? Send more angry emails? Round up your blog audience of eleven readers and systematically dismantle the Horowitz Media Empire? Cry like a baby? Hold your breath until you turn blue? Go all Fatal Attraction and boil his pets?
Four hours later, Horowitz replied:
Uh, you know Auster was hitting "Refresh" on his email account every ten seconds for the ENTIRE FOUR HOURS. Horowitz, you torturer!
I want you to go away Lawrence.
I can't believe that David Horowitz and I actually agree on something.
You have caused me more trouble than I care to think about and the fact that you're piling on me while I'm getting letters from my children asking me why I published a racist, and while I'm waiting to see this spread across the Internet, is more than I can handle right now.
Awwwwwww. Poor, poor, pitiful li'l bald-headed thing. It's hard work having to deal with the consequences of your little mealy-mouthed jihad, isn't it, Horowitz? You end up having to joust with Unabomber types like Auster, or else face ominous, vaguely worded threats! Oh, no!
I wrote back to him:
Groan. Of course you did, Lawrence. If there is one thing I have learned about contrary, attention-starved, high-maintenance assholes on the Web like yourself, it's that you will always, always, always have something else you'd like to add. Whether it's Jeff Goldstein, Gay Right Wing Blogger Ace at Ace of Spades, Dan Riehl, or Jules Crittendon, you always think that your next point is going to be the absolutely devastating Last Word, a ruthless rhetorical coup that will slay your opponent and leave him weeping in a pool of his own remorse.
Sadly, no. As is generally the case, your semiotic SCUD missile turns into a DUD missile and you just continue to bleat and wail like you were an hour ago, only more insistently.
I've just learned today, a year after the fact, that you had expelled me from FrontPage. You had not told me that you had expelled me; and you have not given me your reasons for expelling me, since you have not identified any statement of mine that you think is racist and offensive so that I could defend myself; and you have not told me why you never told me that you had expelled me. And when I ask for explanations for all this, you tell me that I am "a big pain in the ass," that I'm giving you the "third degree," that I'm "attacking" you, and that I'm "piling" on you, and then you tell me to "go away" as if I were some bum accosting you on the street.
Your behavior is shameful.
You, the great crusader against campus PC, have just behaved in the most outrageously PC manner I've ever seen in my life.
Doesn't he sound like your worst boyfriend/girlfriend ever in the last fight you had the patience to endure? "It's not that you cheated on me! It's that you LIIIIIED about it!"
Which is of course, total bs. Yeah, it's that you cheated. The lie was just the frosting on their overall Unhappy Cake. But, of course, the Prime Directive of Passive-Aggression is that you never, ever fight the real fight. You find a side-issue and then labor it until it bleeds.
But, hey, I lost my bet. Auster never called "Ho Ho" Horowitz a Nazi. Or even Leon Trotsky, let alone "Uncle" Joe Stalin. I'm so disappointed. Still, for one blinkered, ideological blowhard to call another blinkered, ideological blowhard "PC" is tantamount to invoking Godwin's Law, I should think.
If you'd care for some more (and who wouldn't?), you can follow the rest of this sad, sordid falling out in the myriad of posts and follow-up posts Auster has done in the process of nursing his resentment. In fact, it looks like he could keep this going for months.
It's almost enough to make you feel sorry for David Horowitz.
Except that it isn't. Those two deserve each other.
Good luck, little boys! If you're going to kill each other, take it out in the yard. We just had the rugs done in here.
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oddball @ 4
love it!
Thank you, Thank you
Speaking of racists … did anyone see O’Falafel tonight? According to that putz, Soros rules the world. C & L has the low down. Someone please get O’Falafel his anti-psychotic meds.
Lawrence Auster makes me wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her to marry him.
(Another hat tip to Douglas Adams. Ah, Douglas, you went before your time.)
Lolo, you’ve just illustrated the principle of zedtropy.
Hi y’all. I was really hoping this would be about the queen’s visit, since that is what I blogged about today. Oh well. Read it if you like. Also here.
Texas Betsy @ 7
Hello.
I’ll apologize to all for vanishing last night. Sometime after the 200th post on any given thread, my dialup connection and I often end up in aggressive renegotiations. Last night, I was forced to make some concessions. Sorry about that.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 10
Nope. O’Reilly makes my inner child throw up.
TRex I do not understand a single sentence from your post except this one. “And that’s where the fun starts!”
SnarKassandra @ 13
Well done. I’m not sure which is more disturbing - her carbon footprint or hereditary monarch footprint.
Evening, Snarkaholic Fire Pups!
I don’t have a daughter either, but I will definite forbid my son from marrying him. Oh that’s right, my son lives in Oklahoma, so he won’t have a chance any way (besides, his lovely wife might object).
SnarKassandra @ 13
WOW…the Queen visited today? You see what you miss when you don’t turn on the TeeWee. *wink
EvilDrPuma @ 14
No problem. We do what we need to do.
SnarKassandra @ 13
All I want to know is, did Bush let HM the Queen ruin his garden. Because fair is fair, damn it.
DrDick @ 18
Let me talk to him. I think I can work something out.
Hi y’all, from QE II central. Did you get a load of Shrub in white tie and tails tonight?
Not sure what to make of this, but Trent Lott has joined the chorus of Republic senators and congressmen advising Commander Guy that his latest lunacy has a sell-by date.
http://my.earthlink.net/articl.....2092163629
Oh boy this is SO much fun to watch!
LoudounLib @ 23
Yeah, looked like a cheap imitation of The Penguin.
itwasntme @ 25
Isn’t it though? I love watching assholes autocannibalize.
The only attire in which I wish to see Commander Guy is an orange jumpsuit.
DrDick @ 26
Emphasis on “cheap imitation.” Most Batman villains are a bit smarter than Der Shrubbenfuhrer.
burnspbesq @ 28
Don’t forget the matching leg irons.
Picking up trash by the side of I-10, way out in West Texas.
TREX! But did you have to say:
I mean, us chrome domes have enough problems without having to contend with domehead bashing. :}(
SnarKassandra @ 16
Picture grown men having a pillowfight, except more ridiculous.
DrDick @ 30
I think Bush and all his cronies should be forced to dress as the Beagle Boys when they finally go to the pokey.
EvilDrPuma @ 29
But only a bit.
Mutant Poodle @ 33
It really is something out of a Monty Python skit.
Hey, TRex,
I too had a little run-in with lil Dave Horowitz a while back. Well, actually 2 run-ins, via email.
He’s clearly an idiot.
Here is one post.
Here is the other.
There’s nothing ridiculous about a grown man having a pillowfight — so long as it’s with a kid under the age of six and he lets the kid win.
Oy. The Republican “presidential” debate was so dull that even Jon Stewart couldn’t make it funny.
The Beagle Boys! A great name from the past. Some friends and I once dressed up as the Beagle Boys and went to a Halloween party.
SteveAudio @ 37
Personally, I try to avoid the man like the plague (which is sort of insulting to the plague). His dimwitted acolytes tried to stir things up here at my university a while back, but got basically nowhere. I actually think much of our student body is more progressive than the faculty.
SnarKassandra @ 13
Hey Cassie - nice post.
If you want to have you some British Royalty background, rent The Queen. Great film, and it’ll answer some of your question (and probably raise a few more).
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 10
I may be hopelessly out of touch but before O’Reilly started his nonsense, I had never heard of George Soros. I still don’t know much about him except that he must be some evil mastermind with oodles of money looking to destroy America.
Spa-lash. Evening all. Fine dissection of the pillow fight, TRex.
SteveAudio @ 37
The stupid - it burns!
Suzanne @ 44
Good evening Suzanne. Have your waterproof pillow with you?
Evening, gang!
My, you’re fast tonight!
Mutant Poodle @ 42
And if you’re interested in the famous Queen Elizabeth I, I recommend the equally famous Blackadder II. Actually, I recommend all things Blackadder.
Not that I actually want to look too closely at this. nut Auster - despite being a putz - actually has a point. What sort of schmuck bans you from his blog/publication/mimeographed newsletter/handwritten screed covering front and back of college ruled notebook paper with no white spaces or punctuation and doesn’t tell you about it for a year?
DrDick @ 41
I actually initiated the whole thing by leaving a comment at his site.
I didn’t call him an idiot, I just pointed out his hypocrisy.
He emailed my back, I responded, eventually he admitted that he was a hypocrite, but that it was OK…you’d have to read the post to make any sense of it, sadly.
trex, I know why you are having so much fun and I know why you published this echange, emboldens are mine
hehe
you saw that and said to yourslf;
*trex old pal, davids worst nighmare is seeing this exchange broadcast around the country, and you can do just that*
and then you did
great fun I must say
burnspbesq @ 38
OK - which of these two is the six-year-old?
TRICK QUESTION! They both are!
lolo @ 2
Denied Again, lolo??? Bwaahaha!!! OOPS, TRex!!!!!
TRex @ 47
It isn’t pretty being easy.
That was what you meant, right?
TRex @ 47
Dude: (as the kidz say)
Find that CD yet?
Patrick 4/4, that no spaces broke the margins. Everyone refresh - they should be fixed :)
Mutant Poodle @ 45
Whorowitz is pretty stupid but unfortunately he brings out the stupid in state legislators too.
In honor of the Tasmanian Devil, a clip from the best band ever to come out of Oz.
Midnight Oil
Suzanne @ 44
Evening, Ma’am, I’ll be on my best behavior, tonite!!! *g*
Suzanne @ 56
I sorry.
Bush accused the queen of bein around in 1776– just another day in loserland.
*bows deeply*
My work here is done.
burnspbesq @ 58
Love Midnight Oil!
“Through numerous experiences and observations, I started to have the sense that blacks are more ‘non-objective,’ they understand things in a much more personal, subjective way than whites,” Auster wrote. “They seem to have much less interest in knowledge or beauty for its own sake.” Which means that “blacks are in fact less endowed with the qualities that make civilization possible, particularly Western civilization.”
Did he just call black people republics?
rwcole @ 61
Sigh. If only that was the dumbest thing he’d ever done.
start_beating_around_the_bush @ 64
Ack! That is really going too low, even for a racist bastard.
start_beating_around_the_bush @ 64
That would sure-as-shit piss me off…
rwcole @ 61
And then he had the effrontery to wink at her. What a doofus.
Mutant Poodle @ 65
Actually, it is several steps up from the Merkle massage. I have never seen such a horrified look on anyone’s face as on hers.
Mutant Poodle @ 33
Aah, I see, I see, said the Blind man… I was in a sudden echo chamber, the silence was deafening, Poor Jim….
LoudounLib @ 68
Dickhead.
Have any FDL’ers gotten their Soros paycheck this week? Musta been some mix-up at MoveOn. *grin
evenin’ late nighters
drivin by before retirin’ - wanted to leave this for EDP in the unlikely event he hasn’t caught the buzz yet
Evil Dr. Puma,
Archaeologist Finds King Herod’s Tomb
thought of you and cleter immediately - hope it is as splashy as it looks :)
nighty night, mad progressive love y’all
My brother is 23 and he has pillow fights with my cousin who is 12 and sometimes I also do, but I tend to get smothered too easy.
Lou Costello @ 72
Nope. Methinks O’Really is having an Elders of Zion moment here.
SnarKassandra @ 74
Stick and move, Cassie, stick and move.
I love it when TRex clues us in to all the right-on-right action. Or should that be reich-on-reich? I’d never survive reading all this crap by myself, and TRex’s narrative makes it all readable.
Here’s my favorite:
Next, he’ll complain “you have not told me why you have not told me why you never told me….” Sorta like those Russian nesting dolls, there’s always another complaint imbedded therein.
TRex @ 62
and fine work it was, too.
TRex @ 71
Ask Merkel about her ‘massage’, at least he only winked… Doh!!!!
SnarKassandra @ 74
Think really old farts with no sense of humor (or anything else) having a pillow fight (and no fun at all).
Lou Costello @ 72
I know. I’m two payments behind on my Lambourgini. It ain’t right.
TRex @ 71
My sentiments exactly.
PS And re cheating and lying — has anyone ever come home to a monogamous mate and said, “Hi, honey, I’m home from cheating on you but I’m not lying about it!” and gotten off any easier than if they cheat, lie, and get caught? No, I didn’t think so.
Lou Costello @ 72
No, dammit, and I was hoping for that…I need that bridge to early retirement! ;-)
what a drama queen. thought the point of the internet is that you don’t have to rely on anyone else to publish you.
cbl @ 73
Actually, I didn’t know about it…but this seems to be a step or two up the credibility scale from a lot of the Biblical archaeology we’ve seen in recent years. (I still don’t know how the James ossuary could fool any thinking human. I could tell the inscription was in two different hands, and I can’t read a single letter of Aramaic.)
Lou Costello @ 72
I’m tellin Ya, Lou!!! As Faux News has it, half the posters, fugetabout the commenters, are raking in the Moolah!!! Oh mighty Soros…..
Please consider this the do not quote comments that have comments already quoted and/or comments that have links comment. The margins will thank you and you will be helping prevent the return of the cranky mod.
TeddySanFran @ 77
Next, he’ll complain “you have not told me why you have not told me why you never told me….” Sorta like those Russian nesting dolls, there’s always another complaint imbedded therein.
When I got to end of the post I could just visualize the guy breaking down in tears, sort like “you don’t love me anymore” kinda thing.
Pathetic… .
TRex @ 81
Uh-oh Lou, I mighta spoke too soon….
Suzanne @ 89
Doh….
When I got to end of the post I could just visualize the guy breaking down in tears, sort like “you don’t love me anymore” kinda thing.
Pathetic… .
All those tear stains the poor guy is going to have to remove from his white sheet-like attire.
CTuttle @ 92
Right over here in this corner CTuttle…
Speaking of pillowfights …
big business for health insurance reform
Suzanne @ 89
Do you ever get the feeling some *sip, ok, swig* enjoy the chastisement?
Patrick 4/4 @ 94
Oh No!!! I’ve incurred the wrath!!! :((
burnspbesq @ 95
Sounds a bit more like mud wrestling to me.
“right-on-right action.”
Teddy, Teddy, Teddy. Don’t you know that you can get arrested for possession of that filth? Even in San Francisco, there are limits.
Suzanne @ 89
With all due respect…I’ve never seen these broken margins that you speak of and I was wondereing if there isn’t a way your programmers could fix it so commenters couldn’t do anything that would screw up the thread.
Just askin’ (especially because I always link).
Well, I don’t know much about this nutcase Auster, but from reading Mr. TRex’s article, this guy sounds alot like another nutcase from some years ago.
There was a professor….hmmm….Shockley?….I think that was his name. In any event, that professor held much the same stupid beliefs as Auster. Gosh….wonder if Auster also PLAGIARIZED from that nutcase professor? Oh, who knows. But this little pissing contest outlined in the article is devine entertainment.
Ghostman
burnspbesq @ 99
Yeah, you’ll have Interpol down on all of us for things like that.
AZ Matt — think how pathetic he must be to have to go to Horowitz fer love.
This is why Bush wants to bomb Iran, he is afraid of students voting. It might spread: NYT
DrDick @ 102