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		<title>By: Slats</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-678133</link>
		<dc:creator>Slats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Everyone knows that Cain killed Abel because he watched too much porn and played too many violent video games…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows that Cain killed Abel because he watched too much porn and played too many violent video games…</p>
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		<title>By: Jo-Ann</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677944</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mitt Romney has the financial backing of the Mormon Nation and the Bush machine. Jeb for VP is in the cards, no doubt. Let Romney spit out farcical myths as “fact” for a while, and his candidacy will fail on it’s own.  A  shallow puppet with a hand up his butt can only work for so long.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitt Romney has the financial backing of the Mormon Nation and the Bush machine. Jeb for VP is in the cards, no doubt. Let Romney spit out farcical myths as “fact” for a while, and his candidacy will fail on it’s own.  A  shallow puppet with a hand up his butt can only work for so long.</p>
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		<title>By: aeolius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677841</link>
		<dc:creator>aeolius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 11:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Romney wants to sound like someone you would bring home to meet Momma. But he is just someone to park with&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney wants to sound like someone you would bring home to meet Momma. But he is just someone to park with</p>
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		<title>By: bernarda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677825</link>
		<dc:creator>bernarda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you think Romney is bad, you need to take a closer look at wingnut jesus freak president-elect Nicolas Sarkozy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He published a little known book, “La Rpublique, les religions, l’esprance”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=55661&amp;eng=y&quot;&gt;http://chiesa.espresso.repubbl.....&amp;eng=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Yes, this is the strategic proposal. France must confront the issue of financing for the Churches: “Let us admit without hypocrisy that there is a contradiction between the desire to acknowledge the religions as a positive factor in society and completely denying them any form of public financing.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to Sarkozy, there is an insurmountable difficulty for those who “think it is natural for the state to finance a soccer field, a library, a theatre, a childcare center; but whenever it is a matter of the needs of a place of worship, the state should not spend so much as a penny.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The passage from general principle to concrete application does not diminish the surprise of Sarkozy’s proposal, because his recommendations concern the construction of places of worship, the “most appropriate fiscal accommodations for the faithful who participate in offerings for the maintenance of the clergy,” and even financial aid for the formation of the clergy, including “making available instructors on non-spiritual subjects, allowing the use of public property, and signing conventions with religious representatives for the education of French ministers of worship.””&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It only gets worse. France has its very own Bush now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Romney is bad, you need to take a closer look at wingnut jesus freak president-elect Nicolas Sarkozy.</p>
<p>He published a little known book, “La Rpublique, les religions, l’esprance”</p>
<p><a href="http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/dettaglio.jsp?id=55661&amp;eng=y">http://chiesa.espresso.repubbl&#8230;..&#038;eng=y</a></p>
<p>“Yes, this is the strategic proposal. France must confront the issue of financing for the Churches: “Let us admit without hypocrisy that there is a contradiction between the desire to acknowledge the religions as a positive factor in society and completely denying them any form of public financing.”</p>
<p>According to Sarkozy, there is an insurmountable difficulty for those who “think it is natural for the state to finance a soccer field, a library, a theatre, a childcare center; but whenever it is a matter of the needs of a place of worship, the state should not spend so much as a penny.”</p>
<p>The passage from general principle to concrete application does not diminish the surprise of Sarkozy’s proposal, because his recommendations concern the construction of places of worship, the “most appropriate fiscal accommodations for the faithful who participate in offerings for the maintenance of the clergy,” and even financial aid for the formation of the clergy, including “making available instructors on non-spiritual subjects, allowing the use of public property, and signing conventions with religious representatives for the education of French ministers of worship.””</p>
<p>It only gets worse. France has its very own Bush now.</p>
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		<title>By: xoites defends Constitution</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677817</link>
		<dc:creator>xoites defends Constitution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 08:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Land o’ Goshen!  You’d think that the WaPo reporter would note some of the spots where Romney’s speechifying head-butts reality, so that it would be crystal-clear why this guy has no chance at the presidency despite the wads of money he’s raised.  But no:  Every statement is reported unchallenged. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You were expecting a reporter for the Washington Post to be as interested in the truth as those who read his articles?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Land o’ Goshen!  You’d think that the WaPo reporter would note some of the spots where Romney’s speechifying head-butts reality, so that it would be crystal-clear why this guy has no chance at the presidency despite the wads of money he’s raised.  But no:  Every statement is reported unchallenged. </p>
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<p>You were expecting a reporter for the Washington Post to be as interested in the truth as those who read his articles?</p>
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		<title>By: DrenchedOtter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677728</link>
		<dc:creator>DrenchedOtter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 06:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, no dissing Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels!  You wouldn’t catch Mitt Romney or Perry Bacon cruisin’ in a hot poodle van.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, no dissing Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels!  You wouldn’t catch Mitt Romney or Perry Bacon cruisin’ in a hot poodle van.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677670</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-677186&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;solai @ 68&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“In France, for instance, &lt;b&gt;I’m told&lt;/b&gt; that marriage is now frequently contracted in seven-year terms where either party may move on when their term is up. How shallow and how different from the Europe of the past.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s learned the trick of deceiving without actually lying. He was &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;told &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt;about this custom. Probably true. But he just mislead all his listeners&lt;br /&gt;
He should be proud. He’s a great republican.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, well, well…even the arch-conservative Heritage Foundation doesn’t think the French have an extraordinarily high rate of divorce.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divorcereform.org/gul.html&quot;&gt;http://www.divorcereform.org/gul.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;France has a Divorce Rate of 38.3 out of 100 marriages. Identical with that seat of raving sex and coffee houses, the Netherlands! However, that’s far less than the dear old USA (”the most religious country in the World” where Mitt sees nothing wrong)  which has a rate of United States 54.8 (85), that’s statistically identical to that hot-house of Socialist decadence Sweden at 54.9/100. And behind Belarus at 52.9/100. We’re essentially tied for the highest divorce rates according to the Heritage sampling. And France has fewer divorces than Austria (43.4), Belgium (44), the Czech Republic (43.3), Denmark (44.5), Estonia (46.7), Finland (51.2), Germany (39.4),&lt;br /&gt;
Iceland (39.5), Lithuania (38.9), Luxembourg (47.4), Norway (40.4)&lt;br /&gt;
Russia (43.3), Ukraine (40),and  the United Kingdom (42.6).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact the US ranks worst than nations like Saudi Arabia (where the man need simply say “I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you” three times in public), most African nations, the entire Muslim world, and the top 20 most impoverished nations in the world. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess that means there are plenty of more “holy” models for Mitt to point to when he gets on his “divorce is sinful” soapbox. But maybe he’s simply using this for leverage against Giuliani, McCain and Gingrich? Y’think?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-677186"><em>solai @ 68</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>“In France, for instance, <b>I’m told</b> that marriage is now frequently contracted in seven-year terms where either party may move on when their term is up. How shallow and how different from the Europe of the past.”</p></blockquote>
<p>He’s learned the trick of deceiving without actually lying. He was <em><b>told </b></em>about this custom. Probably true. But he just mislead all his listeners<br />
He should be proud. He’s a great republican.</p>
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<p>Well, well, well…even the arch-conservative Heritage Foundation doesn’t think the French have an extraordinarily high rate of divorce.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.divorcereform.org/gul.html">http://www.divorcereform.org/gul.html</a></p>
<p>France has a Divorce Rate of 38.3 out of 100 marriages. Identical with that seat of raving sex and coffee houses, the Netherlands! However, that’s far less than the dear old USA (”the most religious country in the World” where Mitt sees nothing wrong)  which has a rate of United States 54.8 (85), that’s statistically identical to that hot-house of Socialist decadence Sweden at 54.9/100. And behind Belarus at 52.9/100. We’re essentially tied for the highest divorce rates according to the Heritage sampling. And France has fewer divorces than Austria (43.4), Belgium (44), the Czech Republic (43.3), Denmark (44.5), Estonia (46.7), Finland (51.2), Germany (39.4),<br />
Iceland (39.5), Lithuania (38.9), Luxembourg (47.4), Norway (40.4)<br />
Russia (43.3), Ukraine (40),and  the United Kingdom (42.6).</p>
<p>In fact the US ranks worst than nations like Saudi Arabia (where the man need simply say “I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you” three times in public), most African nations, the entire Muslim world, and the top 20 most impoverished nations in the world. </p>
<p>I guess that means there are plenty of more “holy” models for Mitt to point to when he gets on his “divorce is sinful” soapbox. But maybe he’s simply using this for leverage against Giuliani, McCain and Gingrich? Y’think?</p>
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		<title>By: white_n_az</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677454</link>
		<dc:creator>white_n_az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-677201&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lou Costello @ 80&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raven, this was MY FAVORITE part of this week’s show:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/05/they_should_be.html&quot;&gt;Sean Penn speaking his mind on Real Time with Bill Maher&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Recently when President Ford died there was a lot of revisionist discussion about his pardoning of Richard Nixon and in most cases both Democrats and Republicans got on the talk shows and said, well as it turns out it was a great unifier for the country at the time. The country had been very divided, chaos, and I think it’s really quite the opposite, that when you have a precedent set like that When you have somebody, George Tenet acknowledging in his book that he knew that the administration was deceiving the american people into a situation that is murdering young men and women from this country and others that &lt;b&gt;George Tenet and Dick Cheney and Condalezza Rice and George Bush et al should be in fucking jail.&lt;/b&gt;“&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He later makes a special point to include &lt;b&gt;Donald Rumsfeld&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s nice to hear it out loud.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Penn’s comments had to cause Hannity/O’Reilly to eat a lot of Rolaids…and agonize at having to wait the weekend until Monday to hit back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I had the constitution to watch O’Reilly to hear his response, I would…but alas, I don’t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-677201"><em>Lou Costello @ 80</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raven, this was MY FAVORITE part of this week’s show:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/05/they_should_be.html">Sean Penn speaking his mind on Real Time with Bill Maher</a> </p>
<p><em>“Recently when President Ford died there was a lot of revisionist discussion about his pardoning of Richard Nixon and in most cases both Democrats and Republicans got on the talk shows and said, well as it turns out it was a great unifier for the country at the time. The country had been very divided, chaos, and I think it’s really quite the opposite, that when you have a precedent set like that When you have somebody, George Tenet acknowledging in his book that he knew that the administration was deceiving the american people into a situation that is murdering young men and women from this country and others that <b>George Tenet and Dick Cheney and Condalezza Rice and George Bush et al should be in fucking jail.</b>“</em></p>
<p>He later makes a special point to include <b>Donald Rumsfeld</b>.</p>
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<p>It’s nice to hear it out loud.</p>
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<p>Penn’s comments had to cause Hannity/O’Reilly to eat a lot of Rolaids…and agonize at having to wait the weekend until Monday to hit back.</p>
<p>If I had the constitution to watch O’Reilly to hear his response, I would…but alas, I don’t.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677441</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-677245&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, anyone who attributes &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;’some’&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; things to God, really has the wrong idea. Probably watching too much 700 Club.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He believes in evolution but see god’s hand in evrything. . .whoppee, that oughta do him great in the Volunteer State!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, me too.  Oh, wait, which God does he believe in? Is it the one with 7 wives who levitates?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-677245"><em>raven @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Yeah, anyone who attributes <em><b>’some’</b></em> things to God, really has the wrong idea. Probably watching too much 700 Club.</p>
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<p>He believes in evolution but see god’s hand in evrything. . .whoppee, that oughta do him great in the Volunteer State!</p>
<p>Hey, me too.  Oh, wait, which God does he believe in? Is it the one with 7 wives who levitates?</p>
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		<title>By: della Rovere</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/07/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-677429</link>
		<dc:creator>della Rovere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 03:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Washington Post has no needs for facts; they are not a reality based news outlet; they, like Bush, make their own reality.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Washington Post has no needs for facts; they are not a reality based news outlet; they, like Bush, make their own reality.</p>
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