Don’t these people read polls? 71% are disatisfied with the direction the country is heading. A firm majority support a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq.

As T-Rex points out, Bush’s approval rating (28%) is a point below where O.J. Simpson was in ‘95. And but 4 points from where Nixon was at his nadir.

Get a clue, Leon!

PANETTA’S RIGHT!

The only way this country can move forward after 2008 is if more Democrats are elected. Crashing the party into the rocks in 2007 with repeated attempts to stop a war that it can’t stop does the party no good.

The Democrats need to be smarter on how they spend their little political capital.

And, don’t forget, Bill Clinton campaigned for Lieberman during the primary. Hilary Clinton gave Ned Lamont $5,000 after he won the primary but, after that, neither of the Clintons lifted a finger in support of the DEMOCRATIC nominee.

It seems clear to me that Panetta, Lieberman and the Clintons are “birds of a feather.”

Makes you wonder how anyone could vote for a clinton any clinton

I didn’t vote for him, but I understand. It’s perhaps summed up best by, “I feel your pain.”

Yeah yeah, I know it’s silly, but Bill is extremely bright, very eloquent, charming, charismatic at times and governed no worse than Nixon. For all the silly talk about him he governed pretty much the way he said he would, as a Conservative Democrat. He respected gay rights in the military, but took away welfare for some people. He may have bungled health care reform, but he did good on the budget. He was acceptable for the times.

That doesn’t mean we should stay the course. We should always seek to improve our lives and if that means getting someone a bit more Progressive, then that’s what we do.

Mexican Food?

Happy Puebla Memory Day.
I supported MY share. :grin:

. . . . A lot of these will be foreign mercenaries, just because American deaths would be more likely to be exposed in the media. Still, I’ve heard that many Blackwater and other “Security Consultants” have been lured in at treble the salaries of US armed forces. They are paid as part of the contracts for reconstruction, and the contractors have admitted that “security costs” are what have doubled or tripled the original bids.

Of COURSE that’s true. Merc’s get a TON of money just to drive trucks. I recruited truck drivers for a while, as a job. Some of those who applied were VETS of Iraq. They got paid OBSCENELY!

But they were quaking in their boots during interviews, when asked about the situations they drove in. Why they quit.

The one’s I recruited, interviewed, were wounded, greatly.

But this ain’t about the dead, dying, and crippled. This is about our country, and what’s happened to it.

It’s been hijacked, and will continue to be, unless we get off our asses about Hilary and DLC, and take a mighty united stand against all the ‘bad’ things.

Of which, there are many.

Our government has already been usurped. Who will get it back, and how?

. . . Yes, but we often went about it in a not so great fashion, . . . . . there was a true gulf between the older, WWII generation that had not yet grasped that the government could and would lie to us.

So true, the divide tween Vets and those of us in the streets, in the yester years. Those Vets of yester year and NOW, now know, they ARE lied to, about their sacrifices. Hell hath no fury like a human spurned.