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	<title>Comments on: Late Nite FDL:  Cinco de Mayo Edition</title>
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		<title>By: PenGun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/05/late-nite-fdl-cinco-de-mayo-edition/#comment-674204</link>
		<dc:creator>PenGun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Normally I just skim this blog but anyone who says grab a habanero and follow me has my complete attention ;).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally I just skim this blog but anyone who says grab a habanero and follow me has my complete attention ;).</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/05/late-nite-fdl-cinco-de-mayo-edition/#comment-674059</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent piece.  I think the more accurate term is “cachorros de fuego” aka firepups.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece.  I think the more accurate term is “cachorros de fuego” aka firepups.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/05/late-nite-fdl-cinco-de-mayo-edition/#comment-673767</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 07:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, I’m glad there has been awareness to the plight of immigrants working here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While we in the US enjoy their smiles and graciousness in light of the negative nastiness of some like those Alabama fools, their Mexican government is continuing to keep them back by not providing social programs that would help that beautiful country’s people. They would rather be in their nation than in the US if  only there were opportunities to work and provide for their families. But I digress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I’m glad there has been awareness to the plight of immigrants working here.</p>
<p>While we in the US enjoy their smiles and graciousness in light of the negative nastiness of some like those Alabama fools, their Mexican government is continuing to keep them back by not providing social programs that would help that beautiful country’s people. They would rather be in their nation than in the US if  only there were opportunities to work and provide for their families. But I digress.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/05/late-nite-fdl-cinco-de-mayo-edition/#comment-673744</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 06:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673367&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 49&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673360&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;solai @ 42&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you all see that one of the injured in the L.A. demonstration was a Fox News Reporter. Hit with a baton, I believe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fox Noise is ignoring it. I’m just surprised that they’re not blaming one of the demonstrators.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lou Dobbs, in a fit of media solidarity, will no doubt do it for them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There were also several Telemundo reporters beaten…and the President of Telemundo is a BIG Bush Pioneer!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-673367"><em>Peterr @ 49</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-673360"><em>solai @ 42</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Did you all see that one of the injured in the L.A. demonstration was a Fox News Reporter. Hit with a baton, I believe.</p>
<p>Fox Noise is ignoring it. I’m just surprised that they’re not blaming one of the demonstrators.</p>
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<p>Lou Dobbs, in a fit of media solidarity, will no doubt do it for them.</p>
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<p>There were also several Telemundo reporters beaten…and the President of Telemundo is a BIG Bush Pioneer!</p>
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		<title>By: aliasofwestgate</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/05/late-nite-fdl-cinco-de-mayo-edition/#comment-673742</link>
		<dc:creator>aliasofwestgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 06:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673509&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;DrDick @ 176&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673505&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Valley Girl @ 173&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;DrDick- I was thinking that too about GOP ethics.  But, it’s also a matter of “authority” in the classroom, if you know what I mean.  My students like me, but they know I am not a patsy.  My newbie co-teacher has a lot to learn.  However, cheating has become a huge problem on my campus. Cultural?  GOP? I don’t know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know that the attitudes and expectations of my students are a lot different than they were when I was in college.  They seem more interested in getting a credential and less in actually learning anything.  Students think nothing about arriving late or leaving early (in my day there were professors who actually locked the doors during lectures).  It is not so bad in my upper division courses, but it used to drive me nuts in my introductory courses.  I finally just gave up on it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Locking doors is a bit unfair when even when you GIVE yourself enough time to get there? The urban student parking lot is hard to even get into. With no other options but to wait so you can even park your car. I was pissed off at one of my music  Profs for doing that. I can understand the dedication and discipline of it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was in choir for years before college, but ye gods. It’s crazy trying to get around traffic and having leave almost 2 hours early to beat said traffic for a one hour course that i managed to get locked out of several times anyway because i just could not get parked and run to class in time! That’s not dedication–that’s insanity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-673509"><em>DrDick @ 176</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-673505"><em>Valley Girl @ 173</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>DrDick- I was thinking that too about GOP ethics.  But, it’s also a matter of “authority” in the classroom, if you know what I mean.  My students like me, but they know I am not a patsy.  My newbie co-teacher has a lot to learn.  However, cheating has become a huge problem on my campus. Cultural?  GOP? I don’t know.</p>
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<p>I know that the attitudes and expectations of my students are a lot different than they were when I was in college.  They seem more interested in getting a credential and less in actually learning anything.  Students think nothing about arriving late or leaving early (in my day there were professors who actually locked the doors during lectures).  It is not so bad in my upper division courses, but it used to drive me nuts in my introductory courses.  I finally just gave up on it.</p>
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<p>Locking doors is a bit unfair when even when you GIVE yourself enough time to get there? The urban student parking lot is hard to even get into. With no other options but to wait so you can even park your car. I was pissed off at one of my music  Profs for doing that. I can understand the dedication and discipline of it. </p>
<p>I was in choir for years before college, but ye gods. It’s crazy trying to get around traffic and having leave almost 2 hours early to beat said traffic for a one hour course that i managed to get locked out of several times anyway because i just could not get parked and run to class in time! That’s not dedication–that’s insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: argosfalcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>argosfalcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 06:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well as someone who has spent a great deal of his life to this subject, I can only exclaim my how little has been explained. But this is not the place for deeper discussion of what was happening then and I know this is a political site not one of history, but so some of what has been said is, in need of further explanation. it is easy to make a statement but in the flush of debunking make sure you are right, or as I stand ready say I’m wrong now that’s some thing some folks can’t do. But what would an old archaeologist have to say about this&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well as someone who has spent a great deal of his life to this subject, I can only exclaim my how little has been explained. But this is not the place for deeper discussion of what was happening then and I know this is a political site not one of history, but so some of what has been said is, in need of further explanation. it is easy to make a statement but in the flush of debunking make sure you are right, or as I stand ready say I’m wrong now that’s some thing some folks can’t do. But what would an old archaeologist have to say about this</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673631&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;newspaperbrat @ 210&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh heck Valley Girl - just got here - and good on you for giving that teacher something to think about - sleep well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey npb, we’re at TRex’s thread.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-673631"><em>newspaperbrat @ 210</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh heck Valley Girl &#8211; just got here &#8211; and good on you for giving that teacher something to think about &#8211; sleep well.</p>
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<p>Hey npb, we’re at TRex’s thread.</p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh heck Valley Girl - just got here - and good on you for giving that teacher something to think about - sleep well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh heck Valley Girl &#8211; just got here &#8211; and good on you for giving that teacher something to think about &#8211; sleep well.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Petrocelli-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again.  Glad I stayed up to read your latest contribution to the “quotes”.  Yes, that pretty much speaks to BushCo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Off to bed, now.  VG&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petrocelli-</p>
<p>Thanks again.  Glad I stayed up to read your latest contribution to the “quotes”.  Yes, that pretty much speaks to BushCo.</p>
<p>Off to bed, now.  VG</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 05:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-673587&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Valley Girl @ 207&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Petrocelli-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had heard that general thought before, but didn’t know the source.  Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was thinking back to HS.  In retrospect, knowing what I know now, I may have been guilty of plagiarism in once reworking some paragraphs from a library book, about the history of railroads in the US.  But, I was so confused about the detailed language, that I had to use a lot of the phrases.  It was innocent at the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem with the Bushies, is that when they are found out, they have no shame.  Lying comes easy, when they are found out.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As much as I like the Macaulay quote, there is another dimension to BushCo. et al- so, I would add, the measure of a man’s real character is what he would do “when” he is “found out”, if you see what I mean.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found this great quote that sums up Bush &amp; Co.&lt;br /&gt;
Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that’s right is to get by, and the only thing that’s wrong is to get caught. - &lt;em&gt;J. C. Watts &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-673587"><em>Valley Girl @ 207</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Petrocelli-</p>
<p>I had heard that general thought before, but didn’t know the source.  Thanks.</p>
<p>I was thinking back to HS.  In retrospect, knowing what I know now, I may have been guilty of plagiarism in once reworking some paragraphs from a library book, about the history of railroads in the US.  But, I was so confused about the detailed language, that I had to use a lot of the phrases.  It was innocent at the time.</p>
<p>The problem with the Bushies, is that when they are found out, they have no shame.  Lying comes easy, when they are found out.  </p>
<p>As much as I like the Macaulay quote, there is another dimension to BushCo. et al- so, I would add, the measure of a man’s real character is what he would do “when” he is “found out”, if you see what I mean.</p>
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<p>I found this great quote that sums up Bush &amp; Co.<br />
Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that’s right is to get by, and the only thing that’s wrong is to get caught. &#8211; <em>J. C. Watts </em></p>
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