Good morning, everyone! Happy Cinco de Mayo! I'll be talking more about Cinco de Mayo later today, but for now, sit down, have a bowl of menudo (especially if you're fighting a hangover from celebrating the end of the work week), maybe with some Mole Poblano de Guajolote, and kick back for a bit.
By the way: If you're glad that the North won the Civil War, you should be celebrating Cinco de Mayo. Why? Because it helped ensure that the North won. See, in 1862, Emperor Napoleon III, destined to be France's last Emperor (that is, assuming Sarkozy doesn't go totally nuts on us should he win the upcoming runoff election), had aligned France with the Confederates. He wanted the Cons to be able to use Mexico as a safe haven from which to launch attacks against the US. (He also wanted most of Mexico as his own plaything, of course.) To accomplish this, he decided to invade, using as a pretext the Mexican government's decision not to pay off its ruinous load of foreign debt. He expected the invasion, which he started in January of 1862, to be over in a matter of months, but the unexpected Mexican victory on May 5 ("Cinco de Mayo" in Spanish) threw some unexpected sand in his gears, and he spent the next four years bogged down in an unwinnable war until he finally gave up and withdrew, leaving his puppet Maximillian to take the fall.
While you're sipping your menudo and thinking about how the Mexicans helped advance the cause of freedom — both their own and ours — you might want to contemplate the ways in which various people are trying to frighten us into giving up these hard-won freedoms. A few weeks ago, my co-blogger MEC over at Mercury Rising did a post entitled "The Criminalization of Everyday Life". It's a wide-ranging post, covering everything from the silly things we do in the name of airport security, to the hassles in getting a passport just to go to Canada, to being unable to board an airplane because your name is on somebody's no-fly list, to the peril involved in even trying to get a new driver's license after moving from one state to another.
But try not to get too depressed over this: For today is Cinco de Mayo, and like the outgunned, outnumbered Mexicans of 1862, we have only begun to fight back!
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katymine @ 1
Katymine!
Hey, PW! Got any good Mexican places in the Twin Cities to haunt? I can’t remember any from my misspent youth…
Thanks, PW! Always good to remember what Cinco de Mayo is really about.
Watch the film Frida today, to remind yourself of the recent cultural and political heritage of our neighbors to the south.
Cha-cha everybody!
Can I ask a stoopid question that I’ve been wonderin about for awhile? What does it mean to “bust the margins”
This is a very busy social weekend here in Phoenix, it is hard to decide what event to attend because they are all over the city.
The violence in LA May 1 march was pretty sobering for our Hispanic community. After all we have to keep paying for the never ending legal awards against Sheriff Joe.
conniptionfit @ 5
In this world, it means having so many nested quotes that the margins on the page get screwed up. Then the mods have to go in and fix it, which makes them cranky.
I think the most nested quotes you should do is 2, but I’m sure I’ll be corrected if I’m off.
beth meacham @ 4
Hi, Beth! How are things in sunny Arizona?
Cost of cardboard and paint: about 2 cents.
Knowing over a million people got to see what democracy looks like: priceless.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..alled.html
We’re playing a Cinco de Mayo gig this evening. I cooked six pounds of carnitas for our own party tomorrow.
Alicia, we’re recording live, I’ll send you links to clips if we get anything usable.
scarlet p.
It is hard to measure the good that seeing signs like yours does. I remember seeing them when I was driving in the States. They were beacons in Normalsville, a messages from the underground. The bastard doesn’t have any clothes and I’m not the only one who thinks so! Thank you for you service to our country.
Mornin’ Poodle! But I’ve noticed that there’s no time lag even if I quote something with 3 or 4 quotes nested. Does that mean that the modz are super-human? Does someone have to go thru the post and reset each margin? Sorry, I’m a midwife, I’ve got no clue about this technology thing. Another question- how often do you have to feed the little squirels that run messages thru the toobz?
[Mod:
Three or four quotes
Ok if just notes
Please don’t quote a linky
It makes the margins hinky]
Mutant Poodle @ 3
It really hasn’t changed that much, MP. Boca Chica’s still the champ, though there are some new places springing up both in West St. Paul and in Minneapolis.
Now there’s a great hip hop name:
Bustah Marginz
“which makes them cranky.”
surely not…
katymine @ 6
Yup. I discuss the cop attacks in my post that will run later tonight. I wanted to keep my morning post fairly light, but if anyone wants to talk about it, go ahead!
Ooohhh! A mod just spoke to me! It’s kinda like getting a message from the other side- I got chills! I wonder if they know my Grandmother Justine. Hey, Grandma! Tell the nice Mod I said thanks!
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 10
Can I come over to your house?
Who needs Guminit Regulations?
Guminit isn’t the solution to the problem, guminit is thr problem! Ronald Reagan said that, so it must be true.
Sigh…you know, I am all for partying for just about any conceivable reason. And I can only hope that the Corona commercial is true in that the Irish right now are going crazy for Cinco de Mayo…however…
Your conclusions are a bit of a stretch about day and the war. Arguably, it is akin to celebrating the Alamo from the Mexican perspective.
As a Firedoglake reporter you of all people know that the Internet is here for the truth, and the truth shall set you free…eventually.
You are citing a chili cook-off website as your source. You have to do a little better than that.
Consider:
Yes, the French army lost the battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862.
But then they took it a year later and went on to capture Mexico City. If they had wanted to supply the South, they still could have at that time, and the war was not over at Gettysberg.
That said, Cinco de Mayo is still a beautiful thing and is good cause to celebrate. Benito Juarez prevailed ultimately, and Maximilian got executed for his trouble…but Carlota brought a bunch of neat stuff with her currently on display in Mexico City.
…which just goes to show you that you really should not invade a country and install a dictator – you reap what you sew.
Feliz Cinco de Mayo.
For great carne asada, ask your butcher to thinly slice a rump or shoulder roast. It’s so simple, just salt and pepper the bejabbers out of it, put it in a bowl and pour a beer over it. Cook it about four hours later on the BBQ. Put it in warm tortillas with cabbage and salsa.
conniptionfit @ 12
They are not super-human – they have to go back and fix it. See this comment from Suzanne last night on the subject…
Can’t help with the squirrels. They’re on their own.
!Viva Mexico! !Viva Nuestras Vecinos!
!Y, vaya a el Diablo Jorge Arbusto y los arbustitos!
to certain precincts of the internet, today is also Isis Day,
as in “I married Isis on the fifth day of May….”
conniptionfit @ 12
However, if I may be so bold, it appears sometimes that the problem is limited to certain browsers and machine types. I run an iBook with most recent OS and Safari browser and SO far, have not had the margins problems Or I may just be a lucky little sh*t.
Tug @ 21: You didn’t read all of my post, my friend.
I didn’t say that losing the Battle of Puebla made Napoleon III vacate Mexico immediately. As I noted (and note in more detail in a later post), he grimly hung on for another few years, then abandoned the puppet ruler he’d installed, Maximillian, to his fate.
The Battle of Puebla, as I said, threw said in N III’s gears. He wanted a quick takeover — he didn’t get it. And that paved the way for his leaving Mexico before the decade was over. Furthermore, instead of being able to turn over the northern and eastern parts of Mexico to the Confederates for use as staging areas for attacks on the Union, he was kept occupied trying to keep them under his control.
The Battle of Puebla showed the Mexicans that they could go toe-to-toe with what was the world’s mightiest and most technologically-advanced army of the time, and win. Yes, the short-term effect was (as I will point out in my later post) to make the stubborn Napoleon increase (or “surge”) his forces, but he wound up pulling out anyway.
But you knew all that, right? ;-)
I discuss the Battle of Puebla in greater detail later today, by the way. Hope you’ll be around to read that. (As for recipes: The one I used is pretty similar to others I’ve seen. So there!)
dmg @ 25
huh?
laurie9 @ 28
“Isis.” Dylan. off the Desire album. with scarlet rivera’s hypnotic line on the violin…
sigh. kids today.
dmg @ 25
Don’t know about Isis day, but as ALL good Kentuckians know, it’s DERBY DAY!
A-a-a-a-and they’re OFF!
In case you’re in the mood for some of the classic Mexican music, I highly recommend Linda Ronstadt’s Canciones de mi Padre.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb…..=canciones de mi padre&Go.x=9&Go.y=5&Go=Go
Raw Story/Newsweek:
Newsweek: Bush approval hits all time low of 28 percent
mod, many thanks.
working from home. didn’t know about the web thing. much obliged.
Permit me to say a very special thinks to two commenters here. For sending along “Half Breed” yesterday and “Peace Train” this morning. I appreciate that. ;0) ;0)
ThinkProgress:
‘The Eternal General Alberto Gonzales.’
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 35
The Eternal General who likes to surpress minority voter turnout? That Eternal General?
dmg @ 29
Hey, it is my anniversary today :) 17 years and counting!
A friend of mine was with code pink and the people a few nights ago who visited with a Iraqi Member of Parliament Mohammed al-Dynee.
They created a video and so did CBS. They were to wait until after Thursday to put their video out there per the agreement. However, CBS has not shown it yet!
Watch the video and listen to what he says!
“Life in Iraq has stopped.”
Watching this video this *will* upset you. You have to log in and state that you are over 18 to see it, but even then, be prepared for some strong reactions:
http://www.democracycellprojec…..aq_ha.html
Please don’t consider this a ‘blog whore’ because the key point is to put this video out there since the media won’t.
Thanks, FDL, Jane, Christy, T-Rex, Pheonix Women, et al….
Well, we always celebrate April 21 as a great day. It is also a great date for freedom and independence. The Mexicans did well on May the 5th, and deserve all their joy today. I tip my hat to them.
Ghostman
Viva! Emiliano Zapata.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 35
Wouldn’t infernal general have been more accurate? Not that accuracy is a hallmark of this admin in way.
beth meacham @ 4
Wa?
How about culture and political heritage of American people of Mexican descent. Love ya, but if people are going to go ga ga over the Queen of England then we are going to have to recognize the heritage of the largest minority in the U.S.
A great grand daughter of an Adelita.
Phoenix Woman @ 18
Only if you can tolerate salsa and hot sauce most humans find intolerable.
I take Trader Joe’s roasted garlic salsa, a pretty tame concoction bny itself, and toss in a tablespoon of El Yucateco habanero hot sauce.
Only *I* can take the El Yucateco straight but most others find my concoction intolerably hot.
As I often say, if it’s not hot, it’s not food. Just like, If it’s not LOUD, it’s not music.
Loo Hoo @ 32
Ya! it’s a good one.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 33
Yup, and Obama, Edwards and H. Clinton each beat all of the GOP front-runners. (And it confirms that, money aside, Romney is still a joke.)
Viva! Simon Bolivar.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 33
Awww. Poor Bushie.
(grins)
Phoenix Woman @ 46
Why the constant comparisons to Reagan? Seems to me that people suffered when Reagan was in office. Was he still a popular President after his 8 years?
Loo Hoo @ 31
There is an amazing album of music by the Late Freddy Fender and the great father of tejano accordion, Flaco Jiminez called “Dos Amigos.”
I also recommend anything by the Texas Tornados, which, in addition to the aforementioned Fender and Jiminez, includes Doug Sahm, Augie Meyers and the great Luis Ortega.
PERFECT Cinco de Mayo Music.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 33
Highly recommend checking out the above link;
chock full of good news re: the ‘08 elections and how Bush is dragging down everybody in the GOP.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 50
I LOVE the Texas Tornados!
TexMex @ 43
A minority that actually is on the cusp of becoming the majority. (Take that, Lou Dobbs!)
And personally, I’m not that ga-ga about HRH Liz II.
Good for you, TexMex! To be descended from a true Adelita is a good thing indeed.
Texas Tornados. Doesn’t get any better.
And slowly but surely, Cali is becoming Mexican, again. ;0)!
silence is complicity @ 49
He wasn’t, actually — though not as bad off as Bush, he was at or below 50% (if not 40%) for much of his time in office. However, the press has been busy trying to pretend that we all wuuuuuv him and hate Bill Clinton, even though Clinton’s approval ratings consistently beat Ronnie’s during their respective times in office.
Ronald Reagan was an awful Governor, President and human being. His wife is worse.
Texas Betsy @ 52
I was shocked when I googled Doug Sahm one day and saw that he had died. But I’ve got the first two Tornados cds loaded on my machine as well as some of Sahm’s solo work (well, with Augie and others anyway but under his name).
I suspect one of two possibilities to succeed in occurring…One, a paradigm shift in individual consciousness resulting in a grand awakening, a realization that time and resources have been wasted and many hands are needed to actualize true human potential, the ability to slip the bonds of gravity and experience the universe.
Two, a spoiled Petri dish filled with malignancies awaits a date with penultimate stupidity, the confluence of destructive power and moronically self-centered intentions.
Either way, goodbye blue sky.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 44
If it’s too loud, you’re too f*ckin’ old… Viva musica! Viva Cinco de Mayo!
;>)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
I miss Doug and Freddy very much.
Hola, perritos y perritas de fuego. Feliz Cinco de Mayo~
Del Castillo
Paz, Amor, y Musica Latina!
Phoenix Woman @ 56
Of course, all the Redubyacans have been searching for another St Ray-guns ever since he left office. I’m still dumbfounded by all the people who went along with re-naming any buildings, National AP and whatever else they could find after St Ray-guns, even while he was still nominally among the living. It was like they felt the need to compete with all the JFKs. Strange days indeed.
Ed*ard Teller @ 61
Buenos Das ET
El pueblo la lucha
estamos en la lucha
From Ronald Reagan:
“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant: it’s just they know so much that isn’t so.”
There have been several segments on NPR about Hispanics being very unhappy with Ken Burns’ up-coming documentary on WWII. Their complaint is that there is no mention of Hispanics contributing to the war effort. Hearing that, it reminded me of a Steve Gilliard post about the poor documentation of the African American contribution to WWII with the military “support” services. He also pointed out that there is essentially no documentation or recognition of the combat record of Hispanics in WWII and, with that generation dying off very quickly now, it is probably too late.
I remember reading that as an ethnic group, Hispanics have the highest percentage of combat awards. (With the possible exception of the Japanese Americans in WWII)
Phoenix Woman @ 55
Plus, who else have the Goopers got? Bush I was never a true believer, nor was Ford; Nixon was (a) downright liberal in their eyes and (b) oh yeah, a crook; Ike warned us about the military-industrial complex and built the freeeway system – massive government program; Hoover presided over the great crash, no one cares about Silent Calvin Coolidge; Harding was a corrupt airhead; Taft – eh – which brings you to Teddy Roosevelt, and most people who remember him are long dead.
Pickings are slim, I tell ya…
ET…. I see all those FBI raids are bearing fruit with the arrests yesterday…. Any word if it will pull in some big fish?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 66
Also from Saint Ronald the Petrifactive:
“Facts are stupid things.”
;>)
Cinco de Mayo
Los Mexicanos led by Benito Juarez, the first indigenous leader of a country after the European invasion, fought the French for years. Lincoln, who had lost his congressional seat after one term due to his opposition to the Mexican War, conveniently lost arms near the border for the Mexicans to find.
I call Cinco de Mayo, El Dia de la Disconquista, the day of the unconquering, as the first battle for monetary independence and freedom from debt. The USA is now the world’s leading debtor nation and we will be forced into submission and a lower standard of living unless we follow the example set by Juarez and Mexico and fight the monster of debt. We are entering a period of indentured servitude to a set of accounting books that are no more than numbers. We must change the books, offer a new set of numbers. See my website, jaspersbox.com for the plan.
Viva Juarez
Viva Cinco de Mayo
Viva la Disconquista
Hey, folks–
The unreported U.S Attorney scandal:
US Attorneys had more to worry about than just getting fired! Look at what my friends at Democracy for America in Flagstaff have found:
First, from Tom Flocco .com:
Texas assistant U.S. attorney deaths raise foul play questions
Senate ignored 5 Texas asst. U.S. attorney deaths and firings at Gonzales hearing
Also worth noting is the death of an assistant U.S. Attorney in Seattle. The U.S. Attorney there who tried to investigate the killing got fired, apparently for wanting to use resources for other than the Bush priorities, i.e. investigating Democrats and vote suppression.
Josh Marshall is onto this at TPM.
There needs to be a special prosecutor for these things.
Cinco de Mayo– a good occasion to fight against tyranny!
Feliz Cinco de Mayo!
Bob in HI
PW, wow! I know a little about the Civil War. For example, I know the Irish “Finians” raided Canadian farms with extreme violence in an attempt to force the British to support the Confederacy too. They wanted British troops out of Ireland and they didn’t care what it took. I had no idea, however, about what Napoleon III was doing in Mexico or the significance of Cinco de Mayo. It makes perfect sense, though, Pius IX was pope and although the Vatican was officially neutral, he supported slavery enthusiastically. It was a big money maker for the Catholic Church, because a lot of RC slave owners could make large donations to the Vatican.
One last thing, I always think it’s important to remember that a very small percentage of Southerners actually owned slaves. The rest of the population was only slightly less complicit than the Northern industrialists who also profited greatly from slavery. Our entire nation was is tainted by slavery and the legacy of legalized white supremacy. White supremacy was only made illegal in the 1960’s.
RE: Reagan —
When I think what could have been done, had some group of rich liberals seen what William Simon was planning in the 1970s and worked to counter it with their own politically-charged media, colleges and think tanks. Sigh.
db at 70 re Reagan quote about facts being stupid things:
“Facts are our friends”
—-approximate Marcy Wheeler quote, February 2007
katymine @ 69
Or else they are acclimating us to the notion that large numbers of Americans can be arrested at once. Probably for legitimate reasons.
And the little gang of ten Republican contenders want to drape themselves in the legacy of Ronald Reagan.
John Casper @ 73 — Thanks for pointing out the link between the Mexican (slavery-backing) conservatives and the Church. The first Mexican Republic was set up and run by pro-indigenous anti-slavery people who, because the Church sided with the big slave-owning landowners, wound up being anti-clerical as well.
Well, Reagan had ‘personality’ and those cute, little jelly bellys. He helped the jelly bean industry single handedly. Too bad he was the first serious attacker on unions when he shut down the air-controller’s strike.
But I was fairly young then and don’t remember that much about his era. What I do remember is the massive amounts of homeless on the streets. That’s why I don’t get the Reagan worship now.
Regarding my post at @39, I just wanted to add that I know many of those people in the room. The author mentioned Geoffrey Mallard. He was one of the soldiers arrested at the Christian Embassy in the Pentagon Sept. 9, 2006. (The weekend they opened the Pentagon for the 9-11 tours.) I wrote about it here: dailykos.com link Geoff fought for our freedom and carries depleted uranium in his own body.
But the reason I felt I had to post the link in here was because CBS was recording the meeting with code pink and with Mohammed al-Dynee. They were told not to say a word until after Thursday. So CBS had the exclusive until Thursday. The author at the DCP held on to it an extra day, waiting to see what CBS was doing. But now, Code Pink and all of them just want everyone to know what real life is like in Iraq.
Something must have happened or somoene must have put pressure on CBS to not show the truth.
OT, but how weird is it that The Chimp is having a white tie dinner for the queen on Monday and daddy isn’t invited?
silence is complicity @ 79
I am all in favor of jelly beans. Now, what else is to the man’s credit?
The portion of Reagan International Airpot I saw was a dump! An absolute dump. Seemed to be absolutely fitting and well named…
dakine01 @ 80
Yeah! Never thought of that. I’d invite my parents if the queen were coming and we don’t even get along all that well.
egregious @ 75
And we have many friends, E.
But yet: “Facts are ventriloquists dummies. Sitting on a wise man’s knee they may be made to utter words of wisdom; elsewhere, they say nothing, or talk nonsense, or indulge in sheer diabolism.” – Aldous Huxley.
Texas Betsy @ 81
All in favor of jelly beans say, “Aye!”
(Aye)
All in favor of busting unions say “Aye!”
Blowrrin Hatch is…. shocked, shocked to find that [criminal obstruction at Justice] is going on in here! …
M’kay…O.H. is “out of the loop”…uh-huh..
egregious @ 75
I was referring to the Alaska VECO scandal. The FBI did their raid while I was in Anchorage last year and hearing all the local news and wondering if there are hopes of snagging the big fish.
I had only one question during the Republican debates: “WTF is going on here?” Tweety’s performance was even more partisan than that of Brian Williams. Glenn Greenwald has spent the last two days answering that question in detail, and today he has posted another Saturday column, a nonstandard practice for him. In doing so, he has rendered concrete the mechanisms behind the press’s so-called “liberal bias” — a recommended read.
Another bit of Reagan wisdom:
“Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibiliity at the other.” Could this have been prescient of our present prez?
More Christy goodness in the new thread.
Instant Karma?
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 33
Raw Story/Newsweek:
Newsweek: Bush approval hits all time low of 28 percent
GWB at 28 per cent? Starting to do the Snoopy Dance – but… Hillary beating out the Repub candidates?
Now I don’t trust the poll.
Well there is another thing to thank Reagan for, the reclassification of catsup as a vegetable. If it weren’t for ketchup I wouldn’t have eaten any vegetables as a kid.
silence is complicity @ 82
Yup. All the money is thrown at Dulles, even though National’s the one everyone uses.
By the way: To this day, the locals flatly refuse to call it “Reagan National”, even though it’s been well over ten years since the name change. They didn’t even appropriate money for new signage at first, which pissed off the Republicans in Congress so much that they threatened to cut off all of DC’s funding unless new signs with the “R” word were on them.
Phoenix Woman @ 27
Pheonix Woman
I like you too much to argue with you in earnest.
I did read all of your post (not fair for you to say otherwise and a bad assumption on your part). In any event, we are missing each other’s points:
The French took over well before Maximilian actually showed up, so if it was Napolean’s intention to supply arms to the Southern states via Mexico through hostile and hard terrain in northern Mexico (as opposed to more direct shipment, give or take a Union blockade here and there), he could have done so without Maximilian being on the throne. Ok fine, maybe the battle of Cinco de Mayo slowed him down a little, but in the grand scheme of it all – I don’t think so.
I actually came to embrace Cinco de Mayo precisely because it is the celebration of the moment in a war that is ultimately lost. Again, you might as well celebrate the Alamo.
Ni modo – you write good stuff. Just stay away from history as told by those with a commercial interest, namely a chili-cook off that does not want to offend anyone…
Or…on the otherhand, I live close to San Marcos, so I could pass out fliers to the crowd on how you framed the Iraq War…which would not go over well – It is Bush territory as way, way too many friends of then Governor Bush made a killing by befriending him for land deals.
(incidentally, via the telephone Jane Hamsher gave a lecture about blogs at Texas State in San Marcos – we are all on the same team here ; )
Onward.
Personally, I never thought of celebrating Cinco de Mayo, but thanks for the history lesson, Phoenix Woman and Tug. I tore myself away from the postings on FDL to go eat some good Mexican food – menudo for my husband and guacamole salad and crispy chicken rolls for me (they didn’t have my favorite – green chili stew), and then drove out to our grass lease at La Coste to check on the yearlings he bought at auction Thursday; they’re already thriving, eating hay and sweet feed. It was a nice interlude, but seems we can’t escape the bad news. The pictures and story of the Kurd teenager stoned to death for loving a boy not of her religion/tribe was horrific. Is this what we’re fighting for? How can we ever understand these people? If they can do this to one of their own. . . the most vulnerable of them, women and children, how can Bush dare to tell us he expects stability in that country? I shiver for the safety of our soldiers in this madness – for what can happen to them and for what it is turning them into. I have written my Senators (well, you know who they are) and representative. Somebody do something!
“He (Napolean III) wanted the Con(federate)s to be able to use Mexico as a safe haven from which to launch attacks against the US.”
Sorry PW, but that’s about the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever read on firedoglake…
(Excluding the Comments, of course)
Please don’t spout bullshit about the American Civil War…The Neo-Confederates are doing a bang-up job of it without you…