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		<title>By: B. Hatten</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672321</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Hatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am so glad for the “stink eye” comment. Does she intend to look so petty, menacing, icy…how long has she practiced to intimidate? It used to be that the eyes were windows to the soul; something about one’s countenance tells a very complete story. As the other great instance of the Mr. Rove who looks swarmy from the top of his bald head and poisoned hair follicles to the roots of his being. And add the belligerent, lying Tenet. What a greasy bully! It really is hard not to judge on appearances that speak so loudly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad for the “stink eye” comment. Does she intend to look so petty, menacing, icy…how long has she practiced to intimidate? It used to be that the eyes were windows to the soul; something about one’s countenance tells a very complete story. As the other great instance of the Mr. Rove who looks swarmy from the top of his bald head and poisoned hair follicles to the roots of his being. And add the belligerent, lying Tenet. What a greasy bully! It really is hard not to judge on appearances that speak so loudly.</p>
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		<title>By: DCR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672296</link>
		<dc:creator>DCR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671409&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;masaccio @ 25&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And in the letter Waxman points out that  Stephen Dodge gave a definite warning that the Niger claim was a forgery, that Rice knew it, and cited it in her NY Times Op-Ed.  Wowie-zowie.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am reading THE WMD MIRAGE edited by Craig Whitney of the NYTimes…..a GREAT read if you are interested in the run up to this mess.  A few Bush speeches are in the book and reading them just makes me see how CRAZY this whole thing has been.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671409"><em>masaccio @ 25</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>And in the letter Waxman points out that  Stephen Dodge gave a definite warning that the Niger claim was a forgery, that Rice knew it, and cited it in her NY Times Op-Ed.  Wowie-zowie.</p>
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<p>I am reading THE WMD MIRAGE edited by Craig Whitney of the NYTimes…..a GREAT read if you are interested in the run up to this mess.  A few Bush speeches are in the book and reading them just makes me see how CRAZY this whole thing has been.</p>
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		<title>By: SB_Gypsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672289</link>
		<dc:creator>SB_Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just love me the smell of obstruction of justice in the morning..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love me the smell of obstruction of justice in the morning..</p>
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		<title>By: nolo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672279</link>
		<dc:creator>nolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671380&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;masaccio @ 6&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jane, small problem in the quote, here is the language from TPM Muckraker:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I assume that your legislative staff was acting without your authorization in this matter. It would be a matter of great concern - as well as an obvious conflict of interest - if &lt;b&gt;v&lt;/b&gt;ou had directed your staff to impede a congressional investigation into matter that may implicate your conduct as National Security Advisor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this is not, strictly speaking, a “typo”. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the “v” for “y” is a “”feature” of the&lt;br /&gt;
adobe-acrobat 7.0 text-copy function, out&lt;br /&gt;
of a *.pdf file format. believe me, the&lt;br /&gt;
spell-checker in word for windows often&lt;br /&gt;
misses this one (assuming it to be french,&lt;br /&gt;
i gather). . . now, you ask, why all this trivia on conversions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;here’s my tin-foil-hatted punchline:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the &lt;b&gt;other most&lt;/b&gt; common trans-mutation&lt;br /&gt;
in acrobat 7.0 to text is — instead of a “W”&lt;br /&gt;
(only the capital W, mind you!), one gets a&lt;br /&gt;
“&lt;b&gt;\v&lt;/b&gt;” instead — and we all know about&lt;br /&gt;
the stunt the democratic white house staffers&lt;br /&gt;
pulled, as they departed their digs at the&lt;br /&gt;
change-over of administrations. . .  all&lt;br /&gt;
the “W” were solvented off the keyboards. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and yes, adobe donates to democratic&lt;br /&gt;
candidates. . . a fun, but obscure, tech-fact. . .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it is probably a very good thing this is&lt;br /&gt;
epu’d by three or four threads. . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671380"><em>masaccio @ 6</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Jane, small problem in the quote, here is the language from TPM Muckraker:</p>
<p>I assume that your legislative staff was acting without your authorization in this matter. It would be a matter of great concern &#8211; as well as an obvious conflict of interest &#8211; if <b>v</b>ou had directed your staff to impede a congressional investigation into matter that may implicate your conduct as National Security Advisor.</p>
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<p>this is not, strictly speaking, a “typo”. . .</p>
<p>the “v” for “y” is a “”feature” of the<br />
adobe-acrobat 7.0 text-copy function, out<br />
of a *.pdf file format. believe me, the<br />
spell-checker in word for windows often<br />
misses this one (assuming it to be french,<br />
i gather). . . now, you ask, why all this trivia on conversions?</p>
<p>here’s my tin-foil-hatted punchline:</p>
<p>the <b>other most</b> common trans-mutation<br />
in acrobat 7.0 to text is — instead of a “W”<br />
(only the capital W, mind you!), one gets a<br />
“<b>\v</b>” instead — and we all know about<br />
the stunt the democratic white house staffers<br />
pulled, as they departed their digs at the<br />
change-over of administrations. . .  all<br />
the “W” were solvented off the keyboards. . .</p>
<p>and yes, adobe donates to democratic<br />
candidates. . . a fun, but obscure, tech-fact. . .</p>
<p>it is probably a very good thing this is<br />
epu’d by three or four threads. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Peace Patriot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672152</link>
		<dc:creator>Peace Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 10:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671959&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671420&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo @ 34&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671393&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671387&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Texas Betsy @ 10&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I hope they really do get Condi on this one.
&lt;p&gt;I would love to see her go down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I’m savoring the image of the House Sergeant-At-Arms frog-marching her to the House floor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How can she live with herself?  Imagine being a prostitute.  Now imagine being in the Bush White House.  Which would keep you awake at night more often?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know, maybe I just don’t get it. Condi seems to me to rank somewhat below Cheney, Rove, Gonzales and Bush in the roster of villains. Cheney, Rove and Bush are the prime movers, and Gonzales is their front man who holds a strategic position in the administration that is the key to obstruction of justice. But what has Condi really done? Lying about the 16 words? Cheney’s fingerprints were all over that before Condi arrived on the scene. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheney is the root of all the evil we’re involved with overseas; domestic evil is Rove’s portfolio. So what has Condi done? Not that she shouldn’t be frog-marched for what she’s done, but it seems to me that the others are much higher in priority.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget Rumsfeld.  Why’s he gone, with no change of policy in Iraq?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-671959"><em>Bob Schacht @ 152</em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-671420"><em>Loo Hoo @ 34</em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-671393"><em>Eli @ 12</em></a><br />
<a href="#comment-671387"><em>Texas Betsy @ 10</em></a><br />
I hope they really do get Condi on this one.</p>
<p>I would love to see her go down.</p>
<p>And I’m savoring the image of the House Sergeant-At-Arms frog-marching her to the House floor.</p>
<p>How can she live with herself?  Imagine being a prostitute.  Now imagine being in the Bush White House.  Which would keep you awake at night more often?</p>
<p>You know, maybe I just don’t get it. Condi seems to me to rank somewhat below Cheney, Rove, Gonzales and Bush in the roster of villains. Cheney, Rove and Bush are the prime movers, and Gonzales is their front man who holds a strategic position in the administration that is the key to obstruction of justice. But what has Condi really done? Lying about the 16 words? Cheney’s fingerprints were all over that before Condi arrived on the scene. </p>
<p>Cheney is the root of all the evil we’re involved with overseas; domestic evil is Rove’s portfolio. So what has Condi done? Not that she shouldn’t be frog-marched for what she’s done, but it seems to me that the others are much higher in priority.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>Don’t forget Rumsfeld.  Why’s he gone, with no change of policy in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: DrenchedOtter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672120</link>
		<dc:creator>DrenchedOtter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yikes, I know Condi comes from outside government, but I’m assuming someone will explain to her that this is not the kind of letter you want to receive.  Good for Waxman, he’s doing it the right way, following the law, step by step.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes, I know Condi comes from outside government, but I’m assuming someone will explain to her that this is not the kind of letter you want to receive.  Good for Waxman, he’s doing it the right way, following the law, step by step.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672036</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671525&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;earlofhuntingdon @ 125&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Waxman is doing old-style, hold their feet to the fire oversight.  Boring, detailed, missed by the Nightly News kinda stuff.  The kind that every govt, too long drunk on power, hates to wake up to; the kind that makes ‘em splurt their coffee all over the morning papers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sam Irvine would be proud.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Ervin, IIRC] This whole administration is drunk on the wine of Exceptionalism: WE are different; OUR TIMES are different; THE SITUATION is different. Therefore none of the old rules apply!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waxman, Leahy and Conyers are of the old school– there is nothing new under the sun. Our laws were made to handle mischief like this. It just takes persistence, patience, and time. And so they proceed, by the book, tightening the screws bit by bit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671525"><em>earlofhuntingdon @ 125</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Waxman is doing old-style, hold their feet to the fire oversight.  Boring, detailed, missed by the Nightly News kinda stuff.  The kind that every govt, too long drunk on power, hates to wake up to; the kind that makes ‘em splurt their coffee all over the morning papers.  </p>
<p>Sam Irvine would be proud.</p>
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<p>[Ervin, IIRC] This whole administration is drunk on the wine of Exceptionalism: WE are different; OUR TIMES are different; THE SITUATION is different. Therefore none of the old rules apply!</p>
<p>Waxman, Leahy and Conyers are of the old school– there is nothing new under the sun. Our laws were made to handle mischief like this. It just takes persistence, patience, and time. And so they proceed, by the book, tightening the screws bit by bit.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672022</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671434&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 47&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Comey referred in his testimony to two USAs that had to be fired because they did something so bad, that if one knew what he knew, the would have to go.  Elston used the same language when he described why the 7 USA’s were fired.   What is this, and who were the two fired during Comey’s watch and why were they fired for???????&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CNN is re-broadcasting Comey’s testimony &lt;b&gt;again.&lt;/b&gt; It is nice to see such good mileage being made of his testimony. Makes a nice contrast with the other lying weasels.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671434"><em>LS @ 47</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Comey referred in his testimony to two USAs that had to be fired because they did something so bad, that if one knew what he knew, the would have to go.  Elston used the same language when he described why the 7 USA’s were fired.   What is this, and who were the two fired during Comey’s watch and why were they fired for???????</p>
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<p>CNN is re-broadcasting Comey’s testimony <b>again.</b> It is nice to see such good mileage being made of his testimony. Makes a nice contrast with the other lying weasels.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-672009</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671445&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 58&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671435&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sangemon @ 48&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can’t you just see it now:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Live! From The Hague!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MSNBC Special Report: The Trial Of George W. Bush.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gawd! I can’t wait!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jimmy Carter will soon have to relinquish his title as History’s Greatest Monster.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What??? That’s wingnuttery. Jimmy Carter has been the best ex-president &lt;b&gt;ever&lt;/b&gt;. His book on Palestine and his tour of public speeches since then is a profile in courage. He’s got a Nobel peace prize. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But then I’m snark-impaired and maybe I misunderstood your post. I hope that’s the case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671445"><em>Eli @ 58</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-671435"><em>Sangemon @ 48</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Can’t you just see it now:</p>
<p><i>Live! From The Hague!</i></p>
<p>MSNBC Special Report: The Trial Of George W. Bush.</p>
<p>Gawd! I can’t wait!</p>
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<p>Jimmy Carter will soon have to relinquish his title as History’s Greatest Monster.</p>
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<p>What??? That’s wingnuttery. Jimmy Carter has been the best ex-president <b>ever</b>. His book on Palestine and his tour of public speeches since then is a profile in courage. He’s got a Nobel peace prize. </p>
<p>But then I’m snark-impaired and maybe I misunderstood your post. I hope that’s the case.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: punaise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/04/ouch-3/#comment-671960</link>
		<dc:creator>punaise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671506&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 115&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-671499&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;lolo @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT:  Bill Maher  guests- Harold Ford Jr.  Sean Penn and Tommy Thompson&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will Sean Penn throttle &lt;em&gt;The Fascist Gun in the West?(title courtesy of Punaise the Great)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;props are due elsewhere for this one, but darned if I can remember who came up with it&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-671506"><em>Petrocelli @ 115</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-671499"><em>lolo @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT:  Bill Maher  guests- Harold Ford Jr.  Sean Penn and Tommy Thompson</p>
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<p>Will Sean Penn throttle <em>The Fascist Gun in the West?(title courtesy of Punaise the Great)</em></p>
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<p>props are due elsewhere for this one, but darned if I can remember who came up with it</p>
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