Ah, 1996. The year I returned to my beloved Athens after a year in New Orleans and south Georgia.
I had a cassette copy of Elastica's debut album and a fast red car that my brother had dubbed, "The Rocket Sled". In 1995, I split up with my first (sweet, but alcoholic) boyfriend after three and a half years and was just starting to feel the wind in my hair again instead of a constant chill up my spine.
I wrote my first and only novel that year. The main character's name was Midge and Elastica was her music. When I would get stuck, I would go drive around the loop and blast Elastica with the windows down until Midge would start talking again. The novel was just okay, though, and as I wrote the final chapters, I could already see the massive plot holes yawning behind me that were going to require reams of revisions to even even make my manuscript presentable.
I put the final period on page 358, put the whole mess in a box, and buried it under the bed, my malformed stillbirth of a first novel. I understand that you go to war with the book you've written, not the book you wish you'd written, but after two years of wrestling with it and still not being satisfied, I decided to just form this band instead and recorded this album.
I have no idea how my record ended up on eMusic or why it's classified under "Christian rock" (HURL!!), but if you were ever curious about my musical past, here's your opportunity to download it and make fun of my singing to your hearts' content. The local music rag once called me "the bastard offspring of Morrissey and Aretha Franklin". As unappetizing a mental image as that may be, I assure you, the sound is much, more worse.
Enjoy!
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A Zed
Good Evening TRex how goes it?
What kind of fuckery is this?!?!
COndi is toat!
I mean toast.
lolo, don’t forget to announce to the lower thread since you scored the zed (again)
lolo @ 4
What? Condi is a toad? Come(y) again?
I will go get everyone be right back
lolo @ 4
I like to think of her as a “lightly grilled weasel on a bun with French fries.” (Thank you, Douglas Adams.)
Evening, gang!
Elastica…wow!!
Fuckery afoot!
Evening all. Personally, I prefer my grilled weasel with a side of onion rings (hold the catsup).
Wow, you read the post and find yourself gazing at that striking young man and….voila there are already 20 posts
Inspired by the Daily Show segment about Hillary Clinton’s appearance on The Insider:
Pajama Party with Hillary
Evening, Mr. TRexitude
DrDick @ 13
With onion rings? Of course you hold the catsup. With onion rings it’s ranch dressing or nothing.
Hey TRex! At least you CAN sing. My attempt sound like the screeching of the worstcrows you can imagine. Tone deafness does not make for pleasant listening when I attempt to sing along. I do believe it would qualify as torture.
Hey, maybe you could lock me in a room with LimpBalls or Bill Orally and force them to listen to me. Nah, on second thought, that would be torture for me too.
TRex @ 10
Hello. My audiologist and my lawyer will be in touch!
Skip Elastica and just listen to Wire. They wanted to be Wire so badly on their first album, they even sampled Wire for their hit song.
Read the ABC transcript, no new names.
EvilDrPuma @ 3
Alaska fuckery – the busting of the Corrupt Bastards Club.
Trex!
Ed*ard Teller @ 22
I saw that. As a wise man with a cigar once said, “I love it when a plan comes together.”
Sun rises in the East. Clear sky is blue. Lolo gets the zed.
The world is as it should be.
Ed*ard Teller @ 22
Saw a brief squib on that. How many and high high up the GOP food chain does it go?
Trex et al, mostly al.: In what way is Condi toast, pray tell? Did she get dragged before the Congress, her Ferragamo figure-skates beating a wild tattoo upon the floor? Could we be so lucky?
Tommy Thompson blaming his hearing aid for answering that gays should be fireable last night. (on Maher by satellite)
DrDick @ 26
The GOP food chain goes up? Hey, I learn something new every day…
Gary Shandling on Bill Maher – He’s gonna fuck up the whole show with his bullshit; unless Bill puts him in his place
S.O.S. from MA @ 27
Not quite that lucky yet, but check the previous thread. Waxman is getting ready to bust some Oversight Fu all over her skanky ass.
dakine01 @ 28
Was he also one of the evolution unbelievers?
Your album looks like it might be interesting. Can’t say that I care very much for the title, though.
Andy @ 33
It’s your fault we can’t have nice things.
LoudounLib @ 32
Nah I think that was Huckabee, Tancredo and Hunter. Although Huckabee says he has no problems with evolution being taught in school and does not think creation should be taught. In other words, both sides of the mouth.
Hey TRex _ is the AC working? OK I’m a few days late – but I think of you, I care about you
dakine01 @ 28
Personal responsibility…how quaint.
Evening TRex.
I always adored Elastica’s synthesis of influences (and I would argue they were far more influenced by the Stranglers and the Beatles than by Wire, the riff from “3 Girl Rhumba” notwithstanding) with their own pop sensibilities that yielded up such great, driving pop singles. Fantastic. I still love those today, and am more than a bit sad that the band imploded.
Hey, TRex — would you hate me forever if I were to post a link to the what IMHO is the worst music video of a great song ever made?
Beware: this is a trick question.
Suzanne @ 5
I did it Suzanne. You taught me well. Go see I even embedded the linky. ☺
Evening TRex. I wrote my first manuscript in 1987, and like you stowed it away from criticism. I will revisit it, because it is a good story–it just needs a shitload of character development. Since then I wrote three plays that were performed, but I still have an eye on that ratty old manuscript. I doubt any copies have survived, but I have a fairly good
pornophotographic memory.Here’s hoping we cross paths someday on a booksigning tour!
EvilDrPuma @ 37
Now EDP, you KNOW nothing is EVER the fault of a Redubyacan.
dakine01 @ 28
Well, then he’s toast:
lolo @ 41
Very nice.
lolo @ 41
lolo is truly the internet sprite.
Elastica was unbelievably good, and Justine Frischmann is a rock goddess. Swag, excellent comparison to The Stranglers! I also see some similarity to early Elvis Costello, in the way the songs are short and fast. But maybe that’s just getting back to rock ‘n’ roll roots, I dunno.
dakine01 @ 43
I choose to live in denial.
I saw, lolo, and you even got to brag that you got the zed – nicely done.
Saw Huckabee on Colbert; he seemed much more reasonable than during the debate. I suspect he’s just pandering to the base-If he doesn’t believe evolution is true, how the hell can he be ok with it being taught?
Helen @ 30
OMG _ I mixed up Gary Shandling with Dennis Miller – I AM FIRED
RonD @ 24
teeheehee!
What what WHAT? Free Eli MP3s? Care to recommend a couple, using whatever criteria you choose of course?
EvilDrPuma @ 48
Ah yes, Denial. Not just a river in Egypt. Bah-dap-bump. Thank you folks I’ll be here all weekend. Try the veal.
RonD @ 50
Either he’s lying or he is pandering.
EDP needs an audiologist after listening to “the album“.
Tommy Thompson blaming his hearing aid for answering that gays should be fireable last night. (on Maher by satellite)
Ergo, TRex caused Tommy Tompson’s hearing problems.
RonD @ 50
(shrug) Makes no difference to me. I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee if he put his silly-ass surname up to my head.
Helen @ 36
Indeed it is! Just in time for the weather to turn cool again over the weekend.
Texas Betsy @ 55
There’s a difference?
Gad — I’m on hold with T-Mobile tech support, and their music on hold is absolutely KILLING me. I’d rather be locked in a room with Dick Cheney.
Helen @ 51
When can we re-hire you?
Texas Betsy @ 55
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Suzanne @ 56
No chocolate dinos for TRex this evening.
Love Elastica! Justine rocks. Unfortunately, they lost the thread in the second album.
RonD @ 50
That’s why I say talking outta both sides of his mouth. He wants to talk to the base yet appear a reasonable human.
Although I will say in his defense, he has stated that if the Redubyacans nominate rudy, or newt or mccain, then a lot of people owe apologies to Bill Clinton.
Suzanne @ 56
Tommy Thompson just heard the sound of his name once too often and went deaf from the grating alliteration.
Suzanne @ 48
They were teasing me earlier so that’s why I was extra ’specially obnoxious.
I_M_bobo @ 53
I guess my favorites would be “Waiter”, “Crazy”, and “This Time Tomorrow”.
RonD @ 50
You seriously thought so? I thought he came across as a pandering moron on Colbert. He sure acted manic (almost McCain-like) and seemed to think Colbert was a real conservative and not a parody of one.
burnspbesq @ 60
They would prefer you hung up, and will do everything in their power to reduce the number of customers who stay on until someone answers. Be glad it’s not a longterm disability insurer — they are much worse, with the added bonus (for them) that their “customer” might even die while waiting.
Helen @ 50
OMG is Harold Forde (bluedog) teh conservative? No Repubics unless Shandling is a Republican.
We started to have a debate at chez TSF during Huckabee’s Colbert appearance: Clever panderer or clueless idiot? Then we laughed, realizing it mattered not.
Teachers get death threats for teaching evolution in Arkansas. Is it any wonder about Huckleberries position?
burnspbesq @ 60
WBCN in Boston used to have a DJ who did an afternoon bit he called “elevator music from hell” which took a rock classic and re-did as elevator music and the listener had to guess the original song.
It was a big joke until I got stuck on hold for Marriott one itme and they were playing the Band’s Up On Cripple Creek as elevator music. It just made me madder than I already was to start with.
Texas Betsy @ 61
I am mortified that I did that. Glad it is the end of the week. – Oh and evening Aunt Betsy.
TeddySanFran @ 72
Clueless panderer, perhaps? Clever idiot is of course an oxymoron.
Harold Ford is Joe Lieberman in minstrel drag (can I say that?)
TeddySanFran @ 70
This must be the music the torturers — ERR — interrogators use at Guantanamo.
TeddySanFran @ 77
Looks like you can…
Puppethead #69- I agree with you to a point, but I took it that he was playing a parody along with Colbert,i.e., like maybe he didn’t take it that seriously. Of course, his behavior last night totally undercuts my position. It can be very difficult to tell the difference between a true idiot and somebody who just plays one on TV.
Ted Nugent threatened to purchase Muzac in the seventies claiming it placed people in “uncontrolled fits of boredom”.
This is my only Ted Nugent reference unless someone asks me about Linda Ronstadt.
TeddySanFran @ 77
SCREEEEEECH!!
YOU RACIST!!
Oilfieldguy @ 81
I’m sure I’ll regret this but OK, what about Ronstadt and the Nuge?
So who got to Brian Ross at ABC? Why no names? I thought they were gonna name names. Damnit, I want names.
Certainly the intel squadron person should be named. And anyone in the Bush administration; even their economists are morally repugnant.
I don’t believe that no Congresscritters — or staffers — were on the list. I want those names, if any of them voted to approve Tobias’ bogus AIDS prevention programs.
And I want the media names too.
TeddySanFran @ 76
I cannot stand Gary Shandling. He is ruining the show with his shtick. Iraq is a serious matter not the time and place for his bull.
OFG: But, what about Linda Ronstadt?
TRex @ 82
Doing your Malkin imitations again I see.
Music!
RonD @ 80
You have accurately summarized the genius that is Colbert.
Oilfieldguy @ 73
Huckabee is also a Southern Baptist Minister. He also got national recognition after loosing a lot of weight and writing a book about healthy living and good diet. I have heard, however, that his weight loss my have been the result of “bright lights and cold steel.”
You like that? I made it myself.
TRex @ 82
I’m not a racist; I’m a front-pager at FDL. We’re exempt.
RonD @ 80,
I went both ways on Huckabee, but the way he kept going back to his “true conservative” line and how confused he seemed to get by the audience’s reaction finally led me to believe Huckabee is a clueless idiot.
If he was really playing along with Colbert I think he failed miserably. He did not give off an “in on the joke” vibe in any way. Why don’t (GOP) politicians understand that it’s never a good idea to try and out-funny professional comedians?
Just as John McCain will be known for his singing of “Bomb Bomb Iran”, Rudy Guiliani will be remembered for his line, “This excessive concern with little weasels is an illness.” Every time I read it, I laugh.
lolo @ 85
I think Gary is clearer (more clear?) than Harry.
The thing about bein a gooper candidate- is that they really don’t know just how crazy the gooper voters are or how nutso they have to pretend to be to get their votes. The candidates, of course, don’t believe ANY of the shit they’re sayin- it’s like goin ta NASCAR and pretendin that yer in love with watchin cars go round and round. It STARTS with lyin- and there is soon no real substance at all. The whole charade is built on quicksand and the candidates don’t know where the solid ground is any more.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 88
Nice. I am not familiar with the band, do you know anything about them.
TeddySanFran @ 83
I know! Maybe the madame will leak some names since they back peddled. Bait and switch for May sweeps. That’s not nice they fooled us. I didn’t see it did they give any names at all.
Paris Hilton is going to jail.
Would it be too much to ask to see the same for Dick’n’Balls Cheney and The Commander Guy?
Nice cover of Andy Warhol there. One of my favorite Bowie songs.
Oilfieldguy >
What a set of pipes she has !
She & I share a birthweek…
“When women vote, Democrats win” – Democratic National Committee
Steve, what is “bright lights and cold steel?” Surgical intervention? Does Huckabee lie like Star Jones lies?
Paris is going to learn how not to piss off a judge. The hard way.
TeddySanFran @ 84
Dunno – but it was a guy with lots of $. They only named the women who were selling – not the buyers. They named a Prof at the U of Marlyand, A LC in the Navy and the Sec’y at Akun Gump.
ed*ard, do you have any good places to get a decent (college-level or better) used F trigger trombone? My son had his first interview with SJSU’s trombone teacher, and was told he’ll need to find a better trombone. His current horn is a Getzen I found at Salvation Army for $200. Slide is very smooth, and it’s gorgeous, but it’s not what he needs to be a trombone major.
(sorry for the OT, but you’re the first one I thought of.)
porgy tirebiter @ 100
It appeared on an album that actually made it all the way to Bowie himself. I’m told he thought our version was “atrocious”.
You can’t win ‘em all.
Suzanne @ 103
I read in the story I think on MSNBC that she asked to go to one of the jails where she could get a private room and pay her way and the judge turned her down and is forcing her to go to LA County.
CD @ 86
And dakine01,
Hahahaha, open that comment with a stick, huh.
Ted and Linda had a bit of a row, many years ago, as I’m sure everyone here knows the lady is of the left and Nugent is a serious rightard.
The end of the melee came about when Linda called the police to complain her limousine had been stolen, only for it to mysteriously reappear on her premises plastered with double live gonzo stickers.
Compare and contrast that event with Toby Keith’s treatment of the Dixie Chicks.
TRex @ 99
Yeah, I got a giggle out of that earlier this evening. Seems the judge has also ordered that she cannot upgrade to the “luxury suites.”
Helen @ 104
Wonder how many ABC big names were on that list.
TRex @ 99
That’s hot!
TRex @ 99
Please?
Oilfieldguy @ 108
Well, it’s in line with the rights MO. If you can’t win the argument on the facts, intimidate and threaten.
Suzanne @ 103
I heard her lovely mother, Kathy, asked the judge for an autograph and called the prosecutor a bad name after sentence was pronounced.
(Won’t Paris go to one of those secret rich person California jails?)
I see this as a good omen for the administration.
Accountability is the new black.
Suzanne, 100 comments already. 30ish minutes. Is that a record?
Hey Sanjay Gupta. I love that guy. Melamine is coal slag and also pool cleaner (acid) was in the pet food.
TRex @ 106
Yeah, well… Hunky Dory was the high point of his career, so what does he know.
TSF, the judge turned the secret rich person jail down – she’s going to Lynwood Women’s Correctional Facility (iirc) in the heart of LA County.
Suzanne @ 103
But if she pisses on the right judge… HEY WHO SAID THAT?
TeddySanFran @ 114
She asked, judge turned her down.
DrDick @ 97
Paul Thorn’s web site.
TeddySanFran @ 114
That’s mentioned at TRex’s link. Why she wasn’t found in contempt, I can’t imagine.
Also at the link. The judge told her to go Cheney herself.
TeddySanFran @ 102
Surgical intervention..after usual business hours.
20/20 transcript of Palfrey segment
Suzanne @ 118
Yes, for once she really is going to get a little of that “common touch”, unlike that sick TV series she had.
gotta work tomorrow :-( good night all!
Do you think Paris’ 45 days of jail time will have her being shadowed by Fox TV, filming it for a new season of The Simple Life (or whatever that show was called she did)?
Hiya ! How is the lake tonight?
Suzanne @ 127
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the LA County corrections system would want no part of it.
SnarKassandra @ 128
The water’s great, come on in.
Suzanne @ 127
I have a feeling that this judge would probably double her sentence for that and throw the crew in jail with her.
Suzanne @ 127
It sounds like the judge isn’t in the mood for any forms of fuckery whatsoever.
SnarKassandra @ 128
Evening, SK. Water’s fine, jump right in!
Why is Paris going to jail? I never read that stuff.
A no fuckery judge? That’s just un-American. Where the hell is KKKarl Rove when Paris needs him!
Texas Betsy @ 134
Driving with her license suspended after a drunken recklessness incident.
EvilDrPuma @ 136
Oh. Then 45 days sounds about right, good for the judge.
evenin’ all
hi t-rex
am i the only one having a problem w/our beloved KO since his comments last nite rt before the debates began? (sucking up to repubs).
is it me????
Hi, Snarkassandra-I listened to that Malloy show. Some of those kids are great, but some of those kids are disturbed.
Texas Betsy @ 134
Don’t know. I didn’t read that far, just enough to get a giggle that the spoiled little rich brat is going to have an actual accountability moment.
was caught driving with a suspended license TWICE.
Suzanne @ 141
plus no lights on
Suzanne @ 141
Ah. I only noticed once. Hell, 45 days is a wrist-slap.
Texas Betsy >
Driving on a suspended (license was suspended for driving under the influence)
“If you don’t deal with reality, reality will deal with you” – C.J. Campbell
Educated Plaintiff @ 138
What did he say?
I have been praying for the reincarnation of Judge Sirica since ‘02.
Mixing my religions there, I know.
RonD @ 139
Disturbed how-so? I have not been listening.
To add insult to injury, she was late to court today.
18 minutes late. I’m surprised the judge did not add a day of jail time for each minute she was late.
Helen @ 119
That’s the kinda story I wanted from Brian Ross tonite!!
Suzanne @ 148
I’m also surprised that Kathy got away with, basically, heckling the court.
SnarKassandra @ 145
he was making noises like the candidates looked “regal” – stuff like that
So, basically, Paris is going to jail for, “conspicuous stupidity in a public place.”
Suzanne @ 148
Like Dubya, she has gone through life unaccountable to anybody, sheltered by great wealth.
Suzanne @ 135
Ding?
EvilDrPuma @ 136
And not going to alcohol school.
Educated Plaintiff @ 151
Sounds like snark to me.
EvilDrPuma @ 150
ya – that surprised me too – but the kid wasn’t wearing her usual grin – she knows she’s going to (finally) have to take some responsibilty in life
SK, some of those kids just seem to have a short circuit to physical violence. Like the one that said, “Well, in my family, if we don’t like someone, we beat the hell out of ‘em!” To be fair, most seemed very intelligent and reasonable.
RonD @ 158
ACK! I bet that was a boy though.
Suzanne @ 148
You know both her folks are screaming into their Blackberries right now at lawyers who are patiently explaining over and over that the judge was perfectly within his rights and they can’t appeal post sentencing and blah blah blah and Kathy and Rick aren’t hearing a word of it.
“God DAMN it, Stan, can’t she just pay a fine or something? She’s my little girl! It was a minor fucking offense!”
Bourgeois pigs. It’s good for them to run up hard on something they can’t bully and sleaze their way out of.
burnspbesq @ 60
I changed phone companies after I was on hold for 45 minutes. About every 30 seconds, they’d announce, “Your call is very important to us. Please stay on the line and a customer service representative will be with you shortly.” Shortly! hah! lol
EvilDrPuma @ 156
randi rhodes went on about it for a long time on her show today – didn’t sound like snark.
Did the judge take Hilton’s passport? Cuz I have a feeling she might just fly away before June report-to-jail day. (I can’t believe we’re talking about this…. damn Brian Ross!)
SnarKassandra @ 159
Probably a fair guess.
SK#159-you’d lose. Was a girl.
TeddySanFran @ 163
Yeah, I noticed that…we’re gossiping about Paris Hilton now?
Well, TRex started it.
One of our bloggers called in but he didn’t say the name of the blog. UGH!! Aryeh from Texas, 12 yrs old, early in the show.
TRex @ 160
you left off pay & schmooze in addition to bully & sleaze ;)
TRex >
I`ll believe it when her 45 days are done and over with.
“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.” – George Bernard Shaw
Suzanne @ 118
Not really the heart, Lynwood’s more like the spleen of LA county.
Sean Penn on Bill Maher: I waited 2 days to go down to New Orleans cuz I did not want to bump into the rescuers. I got down there and I discovered that here was no one to bump into.
TeddySanFran @ 163
lol – keith was the one who got it into my brain
Who wants to bet a bright shiny thing that Paris has a religious conversion while inside?
TRex @ 160
I moonlighted for a while as house manager at a live theater in Chicago. One night, I had a Pritzker daughter throw a screaming hissy fit that would have embarassed a four year ol in my lobby for over an hour because she didn’t like the seats her party had. I could not relocate her because it was a sold out house, which I told her, but that simply was not sufficient reason.
Helen @ 171
Glad he is talking about that. Did he say that it is still a mess in LA and in MS gulf coast?
LoudounLib @ 110
burnspbesq @ 60
Take it easy. Think before you type.
“You would label it cynicism-as if that proved it wrong.”- Robert A. Heinlein.
Suzanne @ 117
In the city of Lynwood???
RonD @ 178
I read Stranger in a Strange Land last year. Cool book.
TeddySanFran @ 149
Yeah- me too. Like yesterday. I was looking for Jim C to blow the lid off everything
lolo @ 179
Yep.
everytime i think of him saying commander guy, i shrink a little more w/ embarrassment
Educated Plaintiff @ 183
Yeah, I read that while I was at work and crawled under my desk.
A Saddam-era measure returns to Iraq in order to keep doctors from fleeing.
NPR this evening on the NOLA school system. Simply unbelievable. It sounds like absolutely nothing has been done to prep for the students who seem to be returning in droves.
RonD >
Thank you, a keeper.
“I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends…that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.” – Adlai Stevenson
daCascadian @ 187
No deals!
RonD @ 186
Prepare??? Why would you expect them to prepare? This is NOLA.
SK, you read Stranger? One of my favorites. You will find more provocative thinking in that book on more subjects than any other piece of popular fiction I can think of. Awesome for you.
RonD @ 190
Try some Ursula K. Leguin. I especially like The Left Hand of Darkness, but all of her stuff is first rate.
I remember reading Stranger in a Strange Land on my way to england back in 1998. *grins* i was 21 then. I keep meaning to pull that out agian so i can read it. I think it’s about time i do again, seeings as i’m about to touch 30.
See what it teaches me this time around, after some years of crazy and my own growth. All i know is i remember some bits of it vividly.
Oh yeah, I love LeGuin-but Heinlein got to me first.
RonD @ 190
i totally agree
oh but for a real valentine michael smith in the world…
TeddySanFran @ 84
Teddy, the lawyers are all calling ABC threating to sue. The clients are all on the brink of suicide, and ABC better watch it. If they don’t commit suicide, it will no doubt cause a lifetime of pain, suffering, and counseling. The math.
SnarKassandra >
Short version or long version ?
The shorter (earlier) is best IMHO
“The mind is its own place,
and in itself can make a heaven of hell,
and a hell of heaven.” – John Milton
SnarKassandra @ 128
Evenin’ Cassie!
RonD @ 193
I think I may have read them at about the same time, in my teens. These were brand new books at the time. Stranger (not my first Heinlein) had quite an impact on an impressionable young hippy college student.
RonD @ 80
Rep. John Hall said that when he was going on the show, Colbert’s booker said “don’t try to be him.” Seems like Huckabee didn’t take the hint.
Nobody can recommend any novels to me until after finals. I can start reading fun stuff again on Mem Day Weekend.
The shorter Stranger is better IMO also.
All the extra pages really didn’t add much.
Educated Plaintiff @ 141
Not reporting for AA or whatever program she was supposed to attend. The judge is doing her a favor because she needs to address her addictions and grow up.
Teddy, the lawyers are all calling ABC threating to sue. The clients are all on the brink of suicide, and ABC better watch it. If they don’t commit suicide, it will no doubt cause a lifetime of pain, suffering, and counseling. The math.
LooHoo, are you saying that is why ABC choose to out the employees – the women – not the purchasers – the men – because they don’t have lawyers and ABC doesn’t care what happens to them?
Dr.D, it had a hell of an impact on a young adult fresh out of the military also.
SnarKassandra @ 200
I know the feeling. I only read fiction during the summer. The rest of the time it is all Indians, race & ethnicity, gender, and other professional stuff. However, finals is next week and then I am free for the summer. Wooo Hooo!
SnarKassandra @ 200
What kind of fun stuff? Truly fluffy, or more serious, but in your wheelhouse (Anatomy of Deceit, for example)?
In anticipation of Bush admin trials at the Hague, this evening’s midnight snack. Right around midnight for the East Coasties.
DrDick @ 198
ditto
(& we’re dating ourselves – lol)
good times
RonD @ 201
I only ever read the original (which I still have somewhere) when it first came out. I didn’;t even know there was an expanded version.
SnarKassandra @ 200
OK – this is not a recommendation – but have you read Mark Twain?
I like all kinds of books, but mostly mysteries and all the Harry Potter books. Hi Mutant Poodle.
Suzanne @ 203
Sounds like a reasonable assessment of the situation. Here in Amerikka we protect rich white men and everybody else can go Cheney themselves.
Wow-I couldn’t function without reading for myself. Outside of school this term, I read “Rise & Fall of the 3rd Reich” 3 times and James Ennes “Assault on the Liberty”. Heartbreaking.
Helen @ 210
Both Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn and a short story for English class.
Suzanne @ 203
Suzanne – Brian Ross actually said “The men here are not important men…”
Sounds like a reasonable assessment of the situation. Here in Amerikka we protect rich white men and everybody else can go Cheney themselves.
because the bush administration will veto any protection for anyone other than a rich white straight man…
RonD @ 213
I read for myself a lot, but not the 2 weeks before exams, but that is the politics websites and stuff.
Suzanne @ 203
One of the women committed suicide, last fall I think, when the story first started to come out.
I wonder if this strategy will succeed for Ms. Palfrey. So far, she’s got one “massage only” client (Tobias) and one “sex” client (Ullman). She needs more “massage only” or “performance only” names to come out. If ABC won’t release them, so they can back her up, what will she do?
Brian Ross is just following the Bush admin example – its okay to let women take the fall for the rich white straight republican man.
Suppressed history is kind of an obsession with me.
SnarKassandra @ 211
Ah ha! Another mystery lover. Remind me as the end of school gets nearer and maybe I can recommend a few. I also second the suggestion of Twain and would add Kurt Vonnegut.
TeddySanFran @ 218
She will leak the names?
To whom will she leak the names, though? Will TPM publish them, I wonder?
Suzanne @ 216
Oh – but they assume all rich white men are straight, but…not so much. And therein lies the rub..I mean the story
Zee @ 170
Bwha-ha-ha!
RonD @ 220
I am still reading the long Howard Zinn book. And I do have a whole new big bunch of Kurt Vonnegut books but I have not opened them yet.
TeddySanFran @ 218
dana milbank said on KO tonite she was putting interviews of herself on ebay.
SnarKassandra @ 211
Might I recommend, as you are also a writer, most anything by EB White (especially Essays of EB White). His style is so fluid and graceful that you are carried along, lightly, to the end of his tale. Plus, Elements of Style is a must for writers…
SnarKassandra @ 226
Well savor them as you do open them. You are in for magnificent adventure. One of the great 20th century writers.
Zee @ 181
That’s where I was born. It is really rough AKA Lynwatts. It is evolving more into a Hispanic community but it is located next to Compton. When I was a tot it was a nice LA suburb now it is ghetto-ish. The judge must be sick of her pampered ass.
Helen >
The Complete Short Stories of Mark Twain is da best stuff evah.
“Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody has thought.” – Albert von Szent-Gyorgyi
SnK, you’re on the right track. I would also suggest “The Handmaid’s Tale”, and “1984″. Both are especially appropriate at this point in time.
Slaughter your finals first.
TeddySanFran @ 223
Her gig is – I only sold women to have dinner with lonely men – here’s my client list, see? And of course she expects them all to say “YUP” Ulman was the first to say – um, no I fucked her.
RonD @ 232
I heard most of 1984 read out loud, until the torture parts. I don’t know “Handmaid’s Tale”.
Gotta go to sleep soon. Will be around a LOT more on the weekend. Bye!
daCascadian @ 231
Actually, I rather prefer his later satirical works, like the Adams Family Chronicles. Innocents Abroad is also good and had me ROTFLOL.
Suzanne @ 203
Wasn’t there already an allegedly connected suicide?
U Md prof/escort service employee
RonD @ 232
Ooh, and while we’re in the Orwell mode, Animal Farm…
TRex @ 132
She got caught driving on a suspended license, that had been suspended because she got nailed for DUI. Yeah, we take that kinda seriously out here.
Mutant Poodle @ 237
True. I actually like Animal Farm better in some ways. When I was about Cassie’s age (maybe a year older), my English teacher had me write a comparative essay on the two.
Mutant Poodle @ 237
along those lines…..
i’m reading “island” by aldous huxley rt now. somehow missed it in my youth
RonD @ 232
OMG – The Handmaid’s Tale; by Margaret Atwood…Cassie that will be probably the most frightening book you will ever read.
Ooh, ooh, I know! I bet it’s because one of the songs has the word “angel” in the title, and they were too lazy to actually listen.
Helen >
Remember that she is also suing her contractors that violated the contracts they signed to work with her saying there would be no sex.
That`s her story anyway.
More popcorn sales increase.
“Liars are usually easily discredited; it’s the truth-tellers who need to be destroyed.” – Joshua Marshall
Helen @ 241
frightening how so? i don’t like stuff with a lot of violence.
kirk murphy, during tonite’s local news segment about the MayDay LA police riot, they showed footage from the 2000 DNC police riot, for context. I thought of you. It was scary.
SnarKassandra @ 233
Nighty night SnarKassandra.
Ed*ard Teller @ 154
A considerable number of Superior Court judges are ex-prosecutors. Los Angeles County is not a defendant-friendly place.
Educated Plaintiff >
I`ve been meaning to reread that lately. A great story.
“We have enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” – Jonathan Swift
Atwood is frightening as in theocratic future/present frightening.
DrDick @ 239
Oh yeah – Animal farm; “All pigs are equal…”
I’m heading that way also. Running all day on 3 hours of sleep after sitting up all night writing a piece on the history of terrorism since WW2-walked around all day feeling like I’d been sprayed with Black Flag. Good nite everyone!
SnarKassandra @ 244
Imagine if the US was run by James Dobson…
Imagine if the US was run by James Dobson…
and Laura Bush was the ideal woman.
Helen @ 241
Yep Handmaid’s Tale. A must read.
Night RonD. With all of that on your mind, you should have some interesting dreams. I actually teach a section on ethnic terrorism/conflict in one my classes. Not pretty stuff.
RonD @ 250
Sweet dreams Ron.
Loo Hoo @ 177
An hour on the phone and problem not resolved.
If any of y’all have a T-Mobile Dash, and your email account is with Earthlink, DO NOT upgrade to Windows Mobile 6. Your email will go haywire.
SnarKassandra @ 244
No violence – discremination; condoned by the government, that you do not expect
RonD @ 251
Sleep well and thanks for that lovely image.
Here’s a mind-bender. Sample graf from NY Times article, “A Split Emerges as Conservatives Discuss Darwin.”
The most frightening thing about The Handmaid’s Tale, actually is the stifling silence. It’s one of those books where nothing ever seems to happen and yet it is filled with pervasive dread.
TeddySanFran @ 249
yeah, it’s about Christofascists who can’t even pull off fuckery anymore.
CD @ 260
Huh? WTF??!!! I think this boy needs to bone up on his human evolution a bit.
Suzanne @ 253
Oh, damn, Suzanne, are you trying to ruin sex for me forever?
Triumphant GOP memes in the WaPo, on A-01:
Karl must be so happy!
Oh, fuck The Post.
TRex @ 266
I think that about sums it up.
TribeScribe @ 254
great book – disappointing film
Atwood nailed it, really.
How apropos of the current obsessions:
Jezebels (Escorts) and Unwomen (Rosie)
DrDick @ 267
There’s very little of the paper I can read anymore. I won’t bring it around so much; I know it causes upset. It’s so infuriating for those of us who remember Mrs. Graham’s paper favorably.
TRex @ 261
Stifling is an appropiate word. I literally could not breath at some points. I told Cassie that it is frightening because for me when it came out – that maybe could have happened. Even now; but I have more money and position and smarts to stop it, but back then..oh my.
TRex @ 266
And it’s not Steno Sue – it’s Jonathan Weisman and Lyndsey Layton. Can’t remember history on either of them…
TRex >
You`re welcome to do so.
“Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.” – Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
Dr. Dick @263: Here’s the way I think they’re trying to sneak Darwin under the right-wing tent…
Who’d ever have thunk that Darwin did all that work in support of “traditional social roles” and dog-eat-dog economics?
Suzanne @ 203
Gosh, Suzanne, I don’t know. I was being devil’s advocate. Are they outing the women now? I haven’t seen anything concrete yet. So far as I know it’s been men.
SnarKassandra @ 211
Oh boy, I’ve got a lot of mysteries to recommend to you! After finals.
CD @ 274
Actually, what they are trying to do is revive Herbert Spencer and the whole social darwinism schtick which was so popular among colonialists and elites during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
TRex had a case of premature posting upstairs.
TeddySanFran @ 245
Thanks Teddy :)
What the LAPD did was scary (and that’s how they wanted it)…
I gimped away from the permitted concert site as the LAPD began deploying, but before they formed a firm line…
So I was OK.
But they hurt thousands that night.
Same pretext “some kid threw a bottle”
Same goal.
Again, they fail.
CD @ 274
I’m thinking maybe this is a guy who thinks “social Darwinism” was actually conceived of by Darwin…
I was ordered by our Mod God to let you all know there’s a fresh thread!!! FDL ROXS!!
TeddySanFran @ 223
What if ABC has all the rights? Then she couldn’t go to a blog.
Redshift @ 280
Ding!
Darwin has long been forsaken under the revival tent,
until Social Darwinism came along…
CD @ 274
This is pure ’social Darwinism” they’ve been practicing it since the dawn of the right-wing….
Associated Press: “As a city prosecutor said during closing arguments that Hilton deserved jail time, Hilton’s mother, Kathy, laughed. When the judge ruled, Kathy Hilton then blurted out: ‘May I have your autograph?’ “
Moments in time. Sweet. As the twig is bent.
Redshift @ 242
Also the word “lord.”
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