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		<title>By: james joyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-670068</link>
		<dc:creator>james joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668578&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nanz @ 253&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;James Joyce @236 What are you saying, a parallel to 9/11 or something else? And do I recall that Bush studied history? I have always suspected he read things other than the Bible, maybe some history books caught his imagination?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Events at Gleiwitz&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Much of what is known about the Gleiwitz incident comes from the sworn affidavit of Alfred Naujocks at the Nuremberg Trials. According to his testimony, the incident was organised by Naujocks under orders from Reinhard Heydrich and Heinrich M�ller, the chief of the Gestapo.  This provocation was one of several actions in Operation Himmler, a Nazi Germany project to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which would be used to justify the subsequent invasion of Poland.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nazi’s invasion of Poland was a preemptive military invasion, in they eye’s of the German people.   “Predicated on falsehoods”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;911 inside job or not, doesn’t matter.  Bush et als tied al-qeada to Iraq and Saddam in addition to the threat of a Mushroom cloud over a Major US City, probably the same logic used by the Nazi’s, to protect Germany from the terrorist in Poland!  Yeh right…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ask the half a million dead Iraqi’s if there is a difference……… and the 400 billion dollars……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, Terrorist are for real, and the American people are not acting like Nazi’s and our leaders are not Nazi’s.  They have borrowed the techniques of the dysfunctional………     That is the commonality I see………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A military invasion / occupation rationalized and sold to America on insufficient and fabricated evidence. And we were warned, by Colin Powell.  Powell’s actions speak louder than any words……….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HE KNOWS IT WAS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
VIVA “EXECUTIVE OIL” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Power of Nightmares…………………….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668578"><em>Nanz @ 253</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>James Joyce @236 What are you saying, a parallel to 9/11 or something else? And do I recall that Bush studied history? I have always suspected he read things other than the Bible, maybe some history books caught his imagination?</p>
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<p>Events at Gleiwitz</p>
<p>“Much of what is known about the Gleiwitz incident comes from the sworn affidavit of Alfred Naujocks at the Nuremberg Trials. According to his testimony, the incident was organised by Naujocks under orders from Reinhard Heydrich and Heinrich M�ller, the chief of the Gestapo.  This provocation was one of several actions in Operation Himmler, a Nazi Germany project to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which would be used to justify the subsequent invasion of Poland.”</p>
<p>Nazi’s invasion of Poland was a preemptive military invasion, in they eye’s of the German people.   “Predicated on falsehoods”</p>
<p>911 inside job or not, doesn’t matter.  Bush et als tied al-qeada to Iraq and Saddam in addition to the threat of a Mushroom cloud over a Major US City, probably the same logic used by the Nazi’s, to protect Germany from the terrorist in Poland!  Yeh right…..</p>
<p>Ask the half a million dead Iraqi’s if there is a difference……… and the 400 billion dollars……</p>
<p>BTW, Terrorist are for real, and the American people are not acting like Nazi’s and our leaders are not Nazi’s.  They have borrowed the techniques of the dysfunctional………     That is the commonality I see………</p>
<p>A military invasion / occupation rationalized and sold to America on insufficient and fabricated evidence. And we were warned, by Colin Powell.  Powell’s actions speak louder than any words……….</p>
<p>HE KNOWS IT WAS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!<br />
VIVA “EXECUTIVE OIL” </p>
<p>The Power of Nightmares…………………….</p>
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		<title>By: mahir</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-669794</link>
		<dc:creator>mahir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 04:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MoveOn is finally polling on impeachment!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They ask “Should Congress should impeach George W. Bush?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Take the poll here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://pol.moveon.org/bushsurvey/a.html?id=10229-4599041-uA6iZW&amp;t=1&quot;&gt;http://pol.moveon.org/bushsurv.....ZW&amp;t=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoveOn is finally polling on impeachment!</p>
<p>They ask “Should Congress should impeach George W. Bush?”</p>
<p>Take the poll here: <a href="http://pol.moveon.org/bushsurvey/a.html?id=10229-4599041-uA6iZW&amp;t=1">http://pol.moveon.org/bushsurv&#8230;..ZW&amp;t=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668614</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668324&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cinnamonape @ 237&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668285&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;lokijohn @ 205&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Re Osama Bin Laden and the FBI:  if you click on his name you’ll see the crimes he is wanted for.  9/11 is not one of them.  Makes one wonder….&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s the new policy of this Administration NOT TO consider these individuals as Criminals. Those indictments were issued by Fitz, as part of the Nairobi/Dar Es investigation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Bushies want these things as far away from the courts as possible. If they actually indicted anyone involved in the 9/11 incidents these individualssuddenly become subject to legal protections rather than being “enemy combatants”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, as well, indictment would mean having to submit the evidence to public scrutiny…and this is something that the Bushies don’t want to do…as it may show where they were utterly incompetant or even compliant in allowing actions to occur that they could have stopped.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every terrorist action prior to this was considered a crime.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This action against the WTC and the Pentagon was also a crime, but the crime scene was never established and the Bushies and their PNAC friends wanted an excuse for a war…Chimpie needed to be a “war president.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a former criminal investigator I was furious watching the evidence of the crime being carted away from the WTC while rescue workers were forced to go in and out of that hole until all the gold from the Zurich bank was removed NOT until all the remains had been found. So many people contaminated that scene it was ridiculous. Robert DeFuckinNiro gets a walk through? WTF??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once the gold was retrieved the “rescue” effort was called off.&lt;br /&gt;
And the great crusade was begun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-668285"><em>lokijohn @ 205</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Re Osama Bin Laden and the FBI:  if you click on his name you’ll see the crimes he is wanted for.  9/11 is not one of them.  Makes one wonder….</p>
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<p>It’s the new policy of this Administration NOT TO consider these individuals as Criminals. Those indictments were issued by Fitz, as part of the Nairobi/Dar Es investigation.</p>
<p>The Bushies want these things as far away from the courts as possible. If they actually indicted anyone involved in the 9/11 incidents these individualssuddenly become subject to legal protections rather than being “enemy combatants”.</p>
<p>But, as well, indictment would mean having to submit the evidence to public scrutiny…and this is something that the Bushies don’t want to do…as it may show where they were utterly incompetant or even compliant in allowing actions to occur that they could have stopped.</p>
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<p>Every terrorist action prior to this was considered a crime.</p>
<p>This action against the WTC and the Pentagon was also a crime, but the crime scene was never established and the Bushies and their PNAC friends wanted an excuse for a war…Chimpie needed to be a “war president.”</p>
<p>As a former criminal investigator I was furious watching the evidence of the crime being carted away from the WTC while rescue workers were forced to go in and out of that hole until all the gold from the Zurich bank was removed NOT until all the remains had been found. So many people contaminated that scene it was ridiculous. Robert DeFuckinNiro gets a walk through? WTF??</p>
<p>Once the gold was retrieved the “rescue” effort was called off.<br />
And the great crusade was begun.</p>
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		<title>By: Sixty Something</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668601</link>
		<dc:creator>Sixty Something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668434&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 251&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668251&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Solai @&lt;br /&gt;
                172              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bob Schacht, Add to this that Blackwater is ready to act w/o any ethical/legal restrictions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s part of my “martial law” scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
Scary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Knowing this is EPU’ed, saying it any way.  Is there anyone other than myself thinking that Blackwater, aka guns for hire, would not be subject to the highest bidder?  The thought is scary to say the least.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Makes you wonder if the Bushies haven’t created a monster that will be hard to put back in the box.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668434"><em>Bob Schacht @ 251</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-668251"><em>Solai @<br />
                172              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bob Schacht, Add to this that Blackwater is ready to act w/o any ethical/legal restrictions.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that’s part of my “martial law” scenario.<br />
Scary.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>Knowing this is EPU’ed, saying it any way.  Is there anyone other than myself thinking that Blackwater, aka guns for hire, would not be subject to the highest bidder?  The thought is scary to say the least.</p>
<p>Makes you wonder if the Bushies haven’t created a monster that will be hard to put back in the box.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668590</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668325&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;spurious @ 238&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668238&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bob Schacht @ 160&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
2. Thanks to some sneaky midnite insert last year, Pres. Bush has the authority to declare martial (!) law, and move National Guard forces from state to state without their governor’s permission. Look for something to happen (Wag the Dog) in Sept-Oct of 2008. He will be looking for an excuse to “postpone” the elections. If he does this, however, Republicans up for re-election will face a gut check.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t congress change this quickly, as they did the bit about appointing USAs without senate approval?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure and Bush would attach a signing statement mooting Congress’s actions which Westlaw would enter into its books making the Chimp’s signing statement part of the legislative history of the act so that Federalist Society judges can cite the statement in decisions which will then be used to further erode our rights and the Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those pesky little signing statements aren’t going away any time soon; they’ll be around for years and years and years like depleted uranium right here in our own legal books.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668325"><em>spurious @ 238</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-668238"><em>Bob Schacht @ 160</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
2. Thanks to some sneaky midnite insert last year, Pres. Bush has the authority to declare martial (!) law, and move National Guard forces from state to state without their governor’s permission. Look for something to happen (Wag the Dog) in Sept-Oct of 2008. He will be looking for an excuse to “postpone” the elections. If he does this, however, Republicans up for re-election will face a gut check.</p>
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<p>Can’t congress change this quickly, as they did the bit about appointing USAs without senate approval?</p>
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<p>Sure and Bush would attach a signing statement mooting Congress’s actions which Westlaw would enter into its books making the Chimp’s signing statement part of the legislative history of the act so that Federalist Society judges can cite the statement in decisions which will then be used to further erode our rights and the Constitution.</p>
<p>Those pesky little signing statements aren’t going away any time soon; they’ll be around for years and years and years like depleted uranium right here in our own legal books.</p>
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		<title>By: Nanz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668578</link>
		<dc:creator>Nanz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;James Joyce @236 What are you saying, a parallel to 9/11 or something else? And do I recall that Bush studied history? I have always suspected he read things other than the Bible, maybe some history books caught his imagination?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Joyce @236 What are you saying, a parallel to 9/11 or something else? And do I recall that Bush studied history? I have always suspected he read things other than the Bible, maybe some history books caught his imagination?</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668537</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668102&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TheOtherWA @&lt;br /&gt;
                36              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT-but funny!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was six minutes late to his weekly pen and pad briefing on Wednesday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When he entered, the assembled journalists, led by Linda Scott of PBS’s “NewsHour” chided him for his tardiness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I am late,” Hoyer said. “I apologize.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Even the Republicans could keep the trains running on time,” joked Scott.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hoyer was ready for that one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The American public’s conclusion was they were running the train into a ditch,” he said. “And getting to the ditch on time is not necessarily a great policy to be pursuing.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/a-708208~Yeas___Nays__Thursday__May_3.html&quot;&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good on ya, Steny!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very apropos….Wasn’t this Mussolini’s claim to fame?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668102"><em>TheOtherWA @<br />
                36              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT-but funny!</p>
<blockquote><p>House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was six minutes late to his weekly pen and pad briefing on Wednesday.</p>
<p>When he entered, the assembled journalists, led by Linda Scott of PBS’s “NewsHour” chided him for his tardiness.</p>
<p>“I am late,” Hoyer said. “I apologize.”</p>
<p>“Even the Republicans could keep the trains running on time,” joked Scott.</p>
<p>Hoyer was ready for that one.</p>
<p>“The American public’s conclusion was they were running the train into a ditch,” he said. “And getting to the ditch on time is not necessarily a great policy to be pursuing.”</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/a-708208~Yeas___Nays__Thursday__May_3.html">LINK</a></p>
<p>Good on ya, Steny!</p>
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<p>Very apropos….Wasn’t this Mussolini’s claim to fame?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668251&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Solai @&lt;br /&gt;
                172              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bob Schacht, Add to this that Blackwater is ready to act w/o any ethical/legal restrictions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s part of my “martial law” scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
Scary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668251"><em>Solai @<br />
                172              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bob Schacht, Add to this that Blackwater is ready to act w/o any ethical/legal restrictions.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that’s part of my “martial law” scenario.<br />
Scary.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Schacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668432</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Schacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668219&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;oddmommy @ 141&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668205&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;maunga @ 129&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;oddmommy @  111&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s right, under the Sykes-Picot Agreement, TE Lawrence’s map for a Shi’astan, Sunnistan and Kurdistan was igonred and this idiocy set up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sir Arnold Wilson, Controller of Iraq wrote a paper in 1926? 27? pointing out Iraq could not work, probably ever, because Sunni, Shi’a and Kurd had been at each others’ throats forever and would continue to do so for the forseeable future.  Since no one reads history any more, “They” did not know any of this.  Only a strong bully can keep the three more or less quiet…. and that means a dictator.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, can anyone tell me why Bush and his “brains” are against partition?  I’m sure it’s going to make me sick, but at least I haven’t eaten recently.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Biden is betting on the partition plan, too.&lt;br /&gt;
The problem is that it leaves the Sunni without any oil, and therefore basically no source of income. They’ll never agree to it. They will fight the Kurds for the oil in the Erbil area, where there is a mixed population, and they’ll fight the Shi’a for some of the desert oilfields in the south. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another reason it won’t work is that it would leave the Kurds with their own country in the North, which Turkey won’t allow because of their own Kurdish minority, and Iran won’t like because of their Kurdish minority. The breakup of the Ottoman Empire after WW-II trisected the Kurds into 3 more or less equal segments, split among Turkey, Iraq and Iran. So the Turkish problem would have to be dealt with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the current plans is for tripartition in a federal structure that guarantees the Sunni a portion of the oil revenue, but autonomy in everything else. This will keep Turkey quiet because northern Iraq won’t be an independent Kurdish country. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds complicated? Welcome to the Middle East!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-668205"><em>maunga @ 129</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>oddmommy @  111</p>
<p>That’s right, under the Sykes-Picot Agreement, TE Lawrence’s map for a Shi’astan, Sunnistan and Kurdistan was igonred and this idiocy set up.</p>
<p>Sir Arnold Wilson, Controller of Iraq wrote a paper in 1926? 27? pointing out Iraq could not work, probably ever, because Sunni, Shi’a and Kurd had been at each others’ throats forever and would continue to do so for the forseeable future.  Since no one reads history any more, “They” did not know any of this.  Only a strong bully can keep the three more or less quiet…. and that means a dictator.</p>
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<p>thank you.<br />
Now, can anyone tell me why Bush and his “brains” are against partition?  I’m sure it’s going to make me sick, but at least I haven’t eaten recently.</p>
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<p>Biden is betting on the partition plan, too.<br />
The problem is that it leaves the Sunni without any oil, and therefore basically no source of income. They’ll never agree to it. They will fight the Kurds for the oil in the Erbil area, where there is a mixed population, and they’ll fight the Shi’a for some of the desert oilfields in the south. </p>
<p>Another reason it won’t work is that it would leave the Kurds with their own country in the North, which Turkey won’t allow because of their own Kurdish minority, and Iran won’t like because of their Kurdish minority. The breakup of the Ottoman Empire after WW-II trisected the Kurds into 3 more or less equal segments, split among Turkey, Iraq and Iran. So the Turkish problem would have to be dealt with.</p>
<p>One of the current plans is for tripartition in a federal structure that guarantees the Sunni a portion of the oil revenue, but autonomy in everything else. This will keep Turkey quiet because northern Iraq won’t be an independent Kurdish country. </p>
<p>Sounds complicated? Welcome to the Middle East!!!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/05/03/torn-and-frayed/#comment-668415</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668318&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 234&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-668312&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 231&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;STTP in Ohio @ 220 says:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;They also think we’re saps.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because if you and your cats’ sizes were reversed, you wouldn’t last 15 minutes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My best friend’s ex worked at a “big cat” refuge in Florida a few years ago.  I was visiting and we went over for his daughter’s b’day.  The ex still had one cage of tigers to feed and I walked out with her.  She went to the back of the cage and the two females went along.  The male stayed up front pacing, and never took his eyes off me as I was an unknown intruder.  I finally walked to the back so he would follow and he decided then to go ahead and eat. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It was fascinating to see all the traits of my in house feline being replicated by tigers, leopards, panthers and other exotic felines&lt;/b&gt;, Knowing that the games I play with my companion would send me to the morgue if it were one of the big fellas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[my bold]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;even purring, in some&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think only pumas purr…other Big Cats don’t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-668318"><em>Elliott @ 234</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-668312"><em>dakine01 @ 231</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><i>STTP in Ohio @ 220 says:</i>
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<blockquote><p>They also think we’re saps.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because if you and your cats’ sizes were reversed, you wouldn’t last 15 minutes.</p>
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<p>My best friend’s ex worked at a “big cat” refuge in Florida a few years ago.  I was visiting and we went over for his daughter’s b’day.  The ex still had one cage of tigers to feed and I walked out with her.  She went to the back of the cage and the two females went along.  The male stayed up front pacing, and never took his eyes off me as I was an unknown intruder.  I finally walked to the back so he would follow and he decided then to go ahead and eat. </p>
<p><b>It was fascinating to see all the traits of my in house feline being replicated by tigers, leopards, panthers and other exotic felines</b>, Knowing that the games I play with my companion would send me to the morgue if it were one of the big fellas.</p>
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<p>[my bold]</p>
<p>even purring, in some</p>
<p>I think only pumas purr…other Big Cats don’t.</p>
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