
Read Looseheadprop's post on the history of the independent prosecutor
It appears that the Judiciary Committees first considered asking James Comey to testify at the end of January, when Comey and Kyle Sampson had a discussion about it. Since then, Comey has made it clear that some of the explanations offered by DOJ officials testifying to Congress don't match his understanding of the facts. After Paul McNulty and Will Moschella described a bunch of trumped up performance issues with the fired USAs, for example, reports revealed that Comey considered Paul Charlton and David Iglesias to be among the best USAs. For a man whose farewell address focused closely on human dignity and trust in the institution of justice...
I expect that every human being in this organization, from the janitor to the Attorney General, will be treated with the exact same amount of human dignity and respect. They are all God's creatures, and from a distance, or THIS close, there is no difference.
Fifth, and last, I expect that you will appreciate and protect an amazing gift you have received as an employee of the Department of Justice. It is a gift you may not notice until the first time you stand up and identify yourself as an employee of the Department of Justice and say something - whether in a courtroom, a conference room, or a cocktail party - and find that total strangers believe what you say next.
- That gift - the gift that makes possible so much of the good we accomplish - is a reservoir of trust and credibility, a reservoir built for us, and filled for us, by those who went before - most of whom we never knew. They were people who made sacrifices and kept promises to build that reservoir of trust.
- Our obligation - as the recipients of that great gift - is to protect that reservoir, to pass it to those who follow, those who may never know us, as full as we got it.
- The problem with reservoirs is that it takes tremendous time and effort to fill them, but one hole in a dam can drain them. The protection of that reservoir requires vigilance, an unerring commitment to truth, and a recognition that the actions of one may affect the priceless gift that benefits all.
...the USA firings must really rankle badly. Which should make today's hearing interesting, to say the least.
Opening statements: Linda Sanchez describes the stonewalling, the evidence that has not been provided.
Minority Leader Chris Cannon uses the best Republican logic. The Democrats keep talking about stonewalling. But we've never seen evidence of it. No mention, however, of the evidence WH and DOJ wouldn't turn over. And then he suggests that Comey's testimony is going to be tainted by selective leaks from the investigation.
Comey sits there stonefaced.
Mel Watt objects to Cannon's suggestion that Democrats are looking for wrongdoing.
Cannon still claiming that nothing "substantial" has come out. Blames the press for making this all up--"it sells newspapers."
Conyers: I have no idea how long were going to take. Firings part of long-laid plan involving highest levels of DOJ and WH. Misstatements made concerning the reasons for the firings. Numerous questionable communications made to several of the USAs concerning pending prosecutions. "But what we don't know is who actually made the decision to place the USAs on the firing list." (Goes through all the denials.) The role of the White House remains elusive due to their failure to cooperate.
Comey sits stonefaced.
My name is James Comey. I go by Jim. General Counsel for Lockheed Martin.
I was the direct supervisor of USAs. Talking with them about resources, disputes. Describes his familiarity with 6 of the USAs.
[Interesting--Sanchez leaves out Chiara when she asks about how familiar he was with the experience of USAs]
February 28 2005. Sampson asked who were the weakest USAs. Who do you think are the weak ones. "I'm quite certain he didn't mention the White House, because that would have stuck in my mind."
Was Kevin Ryan among those weak performers.
Yes.
Were any of the other fired prosecutors.
Sanchez directs Comey to OAG 511, Sampson's first list of proposed USAs to fire. Document redacted, doesn't show that it was sent to anyone in DOJ.
Comey: I was not aware that Sampson's question was part of a process. I saw this document for the first time when committee investigators interviewed me.
Cannon encourages Sanchez the opportunity to walk Comey through the questioning. Feeny wants to ask his questions and go for other votes.
Feeny: Did anyone suggest people were fired for ongoing investigations?
Comey: No
[Note: Feeny is one of the people who may have benefitted from this, since he is from FL Middle District, where one of the fixers was,and he has Abramoff ties that may get him in trouble.]
Conyers asks about the performance of the others.
"The [reasons] I read in the newspaper have not been consistent with my experience."
Conyers asks about Lam specifically.
Comey: Interactions with her were always positive.
Comey had heard rumors that Goodling had asked loyalty oaths, heard the rumors in the last six months or so.
Conyers directs Comey to read the firing list--Comey finds Lam and Cummins.
Cannon asks Comey to explain his conversation with Lam about gun prosecutions. Comey explains that he said, "if there's a contribution to be made in your district, please focus on it."
Cannon: Was it admonishment?
Comey: To some degree. I was urging a very close look to make sure there wasn't a contribution that could be made.
Good question from Congressman Hank Johnson: how many of the other people you discussed gun prosecutions with were terminated? Comey answered, none of them.
Comey: never heard anything bad about Cummins, his sense was Cummins was competent. Doesn't know why Sampson fired Cummins.
One name that was stricken, recommended for removal. John McKay.
Cannon seems to be here to oversee this, he's not going to ask questions.
Mel Watt asks about McKay's investigation of who killed his AUSA. Comey not aware of any concerns regarding McKay's investigation of that.
Watt asks about the LInX information sharing system.
Comey: I wasn't supposed to have favorites, but McKay was one of my favorites because he was passionate about a subject I cared about. We both thought it was absurd that our children could google billions of pieces of information, but we could only share information about whether anyone had seen a green car. I thought he was making a real difference with this LInX information sharing program.
Watt asks about Comey's recommendation that Ryan was a weak manager. He says he doesn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. He was a nice guy. But that he had serious management problems.
Stephen Cohen, TN. "I would pay for that New York article." At one point Rove and Miers had suggested replacing all 93 USAs. Had that ever happened in history?
During a term, not in my experience.
Cohen: any reasonable idea of why that would occur.
Cohen: What does loyalty to the President mean wrt the DOJ?
Comey: I don't know what that would mean. My people had to be seen as the good guys. We needed to have a DOJ that is run by political appointees but that is a trust for the American people.
Cohen: How would you rate the morale at DOJ when you left?
Comey: It was good them. Folks are having a tough time now, it's a tough time for the DOJ.
Cohen: If people made decisions that weaken the department, would be on this list.
Comey: In many ways I miss the department terribly. That's not for me to say. If I could I'd like to take a pass on that one.
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Marcy!
Morning lolo - here we go - Linda Sanchez opening statements
Can’t wait!
Integrity - the hotness !
someone post the gabbly link so I don’t get banned this morning
Sanchez - we continue to hope that the WH will cooperate but after 2 months of stonewalling; not so much! WH slowed production of RNC docs
During the hearing live blog, please keep your comments brief, and on topic. Thanks.
Thanks Helen, Marcy, Jane, Christy…you ladies rock!
Canon - What an idiot.
Today, of all days, would be the day that my Internet connection is flaky…
Cannon (r) This is a fishing expedition.
cbl:
http://www.gabbly.com/firedoglake.com
Cannon?!? “Nothing supports the “extreme statements made by the majority” ? Is he related to Orrin Hatch? Cornyn?
Cannon -
I know it’s cable, but can they really show a grown man fellating Rove in daylight hours like this ?!?!?
RBG - thanks - I’ll be over here for now ;)
cbl @ 7
http://gabbly.com/firedoglake.com come on over cbl
Mel Watt, upset by Cannon’s statements.
Marcy comes in to add clarity and hard core facts.
Hurrah!!
Those wishing to chat while saving FDL servers can go to Gabbly — http://www.gabbly.com/firedoglake.com.
See you there!
I am already bothered by Rep. Cannon’s comments about tainting of Comey’s testimony by other testimony. That is a Rovian move, attack on what one plans to use as a defense.
Watt: to Cannon your statement that we are hoping for a sinister result is not true. It would be profound if we found that these matters were influencing the outcome of prosecution I hope there is no wrong doing but we have an obligation to get to the bottom of this
Helen @ 5
morning helen
mui @
15
Effectively. The Cannon family is an even bigger (in all sense of the word) Mormon power family in UT than the Hatch family.
Cannon: Sorry if I hurt your feelings; but there’s nothing to see here!!
Um, since Mr. Cannon thinks that it is outrageous there have been calls of stonewalling by the majority, then by all means Mr. Cannon riddle me this, who was responsible and created the of the fired USA’s list and what did they base it on? You know after hours of testimony and thousands of pages of emails and documents (yet not all of them), no one from the administration so far apparently can answer that question. If that is not a definition of stonewalling then I don’t know what is.
So Canon is suggesting that it is not improper for the DOJ to play politics with the USA firings, but it is heinous for the Democratic oversight committee to ask any questions that might have political and legal consequences.
Cannon is a right wing nut case, what a shock. NOT!
Watt: the notion that you have that nothing sinister has taken place is not true
Cannon: This has been a trial by leaks to the press.
Thank you so much, EW, for live blogging this.
Back to “read only” mode…
Dont know how to do gabbly
Conyers: Glad Comey is here
Helen says: Comey looks like he hasn’t slept in days
Conyers: We are aware that msistatements were made about his issue including the AG. We know that several dept officials have resigned in cnnection to this matter and one has asserted her 5th amendment rights. We know that improper statements were made by members of congress to the USA.
Conyers — “who actually made the decision to place the US attorneys on the list.” I wonder how narrow the questions will be, Comey knows where many bodies are buried.
Conyers: We still don’y know who put them on the list. AG said not me, Kyle said not me. We’ve interviewed Sr officials and all denied putting names onthe list The role of the WH remains elusive. They are not cooperating.
Sing it, Brother John!
What we know is….
What we DON’T know is…
Amen.
Jane Hamsher @ 32
in my dreams, it is jane, marcy, christy and lhp on the committee asking the questions.
mui - just click on neil’s link above - if I can do it, anyone can :)
Hmm. Looking at the stone-faced Comey, my first thought is “Chris Cooper to play Comey in the movie version.”
God in Heaven,
He looks exhausted.
Think Comey got any sleep at all last night?
Comey ” That gift - the gift that makes possible so much of the good we accomplish - is a reservoir of trust and credibility, a reservoir built for us, and filled for us, by those who went before - most of whom we never knew. They were people who made sacrifices and kept promises to build that reservoir of trust.”
Fitz “truth is the engine of our judicial system”
The American people are hanging on to the threads of justice…..
Fasten your seatbelts.
Comey looks like that Ethan guy on Lost.
Sanchez: As DAG what were you resp?
Comey: Dir. Supervisor of USA.
Sanchez: How familiar are you with the 6 USA who testified
Comey: Knew them all. Knew 5 of the 6 better than Cummins. Knew Bogden, Iglesis and Charlton well
Comey has the same sort of bearing as Fitz.
jinny @ 43
Let us hope and pray the same core commitment to truth and justice!
OT re; Gabby, I sign in on the FDL pages, but when I post something it doesn’t show up??? what am I doing wrong? please
he looks tired.
Where is Henry??
I am remembering Fitz’s words during his announcement of Libby’s indictment. He told the public to “take a deep breath, and allow the system to work”.
We are still taking deep breaths
Did you know that the ratings chart existed?
Comey: No
madness madness madness
Conyers “no one has taken responsibility” The theme song of the Bush administration!
Conyers: No one has taken resp for the firing decision. You’ve known all of those people. Do the reasons offered by the dept for their resignations ring true?
Comey: Not sure I know all the reasons. But they were all excellent performers. What I’ve read in the newspaper do not jive with what I know about them
Why is Sanchez chairing this meeting?!?
tbsa: it’s officially a subcommittee meeting, so Sanchez chairs.
Comey I heard rumors that Goodling was hiring using ideological considerations in hiring line people
What do we hope Comey knows?
What questios would you ask?
so far he knows nothing.
Damn! This does ntseem well prepped at all. The questions on not very well focused, nor do I see the linear progression.
Are they trying to slip the good stuff into the record under the readar? Or do they not get how to build the testimony?
EW:
Thanks so much for doing this!
looseheadprop @ 56
No kidding - I am actually bored and having trouble following
tbsa @
52
It’s a subcomm hearing and she’s the chair of that. Conyers is on the subcom but he isn’t chairing it… HTH
looseheadprop @
56
Hmmm…not everyone is Henry Waxman, obviously.
looseheadprop @ 56
I was already thinking, this morning, that we’re going to miss having the likes of a Schumer or a Whitehouse.
They must have something–they’ve interviewed COmey, and decided to bring him in for public testimony. But I agree, they’re sure not getting to it.
looseheadprop @ 56
I agree; we need a Whitehouse here.
Interesting how so many others in this administration testifying haven’t looked like they lost much sleep, if any. Heck, our clueless leader said he sleeps well. That pesky integrity value can cause insomnia.
looseheadprop: just what I was thinking. Comey’s valuable for his understanding of established process, and no-one’s asking about process.
I am honored to have had the same thought as EW.
Comey never made recommendations that Lam be removed. Talked to her once about guns as priority. All interactions were good. Was used to tell them they were in bottom ten for prosecuting gun crime.
emptywheel @ 61
don’t they even have someone on their staff to prep them?
I would ask him to react to the idea that they were keeping him out of the loop on this ass backwards firing process.
How on earth did Lam figure on “bottom 10″ for gun numbers. Was this for real?
Rep Johnson from Ga. Is doing a nice job with the questions.
Building to his point in a linear fashion
looseheadprop @ 70
Maybe someone on the committee is also on FDL?
Comey says gun numbers alone are not indicative of a reason to fire a USA
Coming soon from a republican talking point msm headline nearest you. Mrs Lam fired for being in bottom 10 of gun prosecution. Just wait..Rove will be all over this like flies on sh*t.
mui @ 69
Yes. Because the local DA was doing a ton of gun crime stuff. So HER numbers were low, but SD’s gun crime was declining quickly.
In other words, local DA was doing the gun crimes, Lam was focusing on things the local DA couldn’t focus on.
Johnson: Do you know where Sampson got his reason for terminating Lam?
Comey: Nope.
mui @ 69
Yes, but like the NYC examole Comey gave, the press has reported that the local prosecutors in her district had a serious gun initiative going, so she didn’t need to pump her numbers in thta area
How very strange to hear yes and no answers.
“By Ms. Goodling or anyone else” Throw the anyone elsesnowbird42 @ 55
The obvious …do you know who the orders came from?
kdh22 @ 71
You mean reading our comments? tha wouln’t effect what Johnson is doing. his Q &A
Mr Comey
Was Monica Goodling taking loyalty oaths?
Were you aware of any plans to rewrite laws having to do with Indian Country.
Were you informed of any manipulations of oil or mineral rights?
I would like “process” questions. Does the AG’s chief of staff normally run the Justice Dept.? But smarter than my addled brain can come up with…Because the bottom line is we know Comey thought all of the USAs who were fired were strong except for Ryan so why beat that dead horse.
Johnson’s Q & A would have been written in advance
Ah, this is better. But internal DOJ process needs to be the main topic here. Even Comey’s lack of awareness of a formal process is significant. Also, the questioning needs to address the PATRIOT Act provision, and whether Comey considered the existing interim replacement process problematic.
Did you know that Sampson (and possibly others) had suggested that Fitz be removed?
Just woke up. Do I understand that the repubs are not asking questions? Or was it just that one?
Question for Comey: You had a conversation with Kyle Sampson in January 2007. What were the topics of that conversation, and can you characterize the tenor of it for us?
looseheadprop @ 79
not comments…posts
(nest no more on this comment -mod)
Thanks for the liveblog, folks. I’m going to refrain from posting until the liveblog is over - it’s good to give the server a break.
Just wanted to say that I love FDL, and I love John Conyers. Heroes for truth.
McKay and murder of AUSA?
Whay is Mel Watt trying to rebut?
looseheadprop @ 76
Doesn’t it seem ridiculous that Comey would have to talk to her, given the numbers were low for a good reason.
Comey: I wasn’t supposed to have favorites but McKay was one of my favorites.
EW–did you do a post on Linx (sp)?
Comey has not said ” I can’t recall” once
Jane S. @ 92
Yup, I did. Here it is.
I like this guy Comey…presents an amazing contrast with McNulty.
A grown-up.
emptywheel @ 94
I read it at the time. I encourage everyone to do so.
I wish Conyers et al could poke a little harder at Comey about Sampson & Goodling. Comey keeps saying, nope. I don’t believe it.
Ryan had management challenges. Maybe.
kathleen @ 93
Actually, he has, but only once or twice. They were in response to questions that began “Do you recall…”, and he repsonded “I do not”.
Not a big deal, but let’s not overglorify his testimony either.
Were there other prosecutors mentioned but not added to the list besides Fitzgerald?
“plot or plan”
Comey: never heard of Rove and Miers plan to fire all 93.
Woodhall Hollow @ 95
Always a grownup
“special trust” “to remain an ‘other’.”
YES Yes yes
Ohhh he is a believer
Comey: Firing all 93 USA’s would be extremely disruptve.
A talking point in flames.
I like the morale questions.
Comey: “It’s a pretty good thing to get paid to do good for a living.”
Okay. Comey is a bit too much of a cheerleader for me. Yes, the DOJ does good work, but it has done reprehensible work as well, throughout its history. The notion that everyone is there to “do good” every day is absolute malarky.
.
cannon implying that it is the investigation that is causing the morale problem!
No, no, no, it’s the corruption that is causing the morale problem
I’m deeply impressed with and in awe of Comey. He or someone like him needs to be AG.
Comey being, not at all obstructive, but very circumspect. I don’t think we’re going to get any big revelations here today, unfortunately.
cc in nc @ 109
Rove & Bush’s worst nightmare.
Comey looks like a young John Ashcroft.
JGabriel @ 110
Do you think he was as “out of the loop” as he maintains?
TBetsy, he might well have been. If you wanted to corupt the DOJ, you’d leave the straight arrows out of the loop.
RonD @ 77
Perhaps this is what’s throwing the committee off!
how did Comey end up in front of this weak-looking Committee? Scatter-gun questions; not even enough substance that the R’s are much interested in jumping into the fray to rebut or dispute.
O.K. It’s time for Whitehouse to crash this party with his charts. Comey is vindicating the fired attorneys, but claims to have no info on Sampson/Goodling/Rove..
One thing is, he is burying the “performance-related issues” talking point.
looseheadprop @ 101
a professional and non-partison
Are BushCo loyalty oaths blackmail waivers?
Is it just me, or are thing always a bit fragmented when Sanchez chairs something?
JGabriel @ 110
I think that is more a function of thetype of questions being asked, than of his answers.
The guy is vouching for these fired USAs. Personally vouching for them.
RonD @ 114
Or fire them.
sofistic @ 121
I’ve never seen her before, but I am not impressed. I guess Big Hank set the bar awfully high!!
Nola Sue…yeah, or that.
This is why Comey’s not knowing about things can be significant, especially if McNulty’s on record being in the loop.
But the questioning isn’t impressing me hugely. Feels like a wasted opportunity so far.
New thread up.
jayt @ 116
Yes, the committee seems ill-prepared. I’m hoping to be surprised. At least Comey is coming across as honest and trustworthy, making the firings of the USAs appear to have no merit. Maybe that’s what the committee wanted, but I’d like to hear something more than that.
Folks, I moved to a new thread, to take care of the servers.
Texas Betsy @ 113
I think so. I don’t think Comey’s lying at all.
But I get the feeling Comey knows more than he’s conveying. It may be that much of what he could add comes to him second hand, and that he feels it’s not appropriate to volunteer information that could be characterized as hearsay.
It looks like the major takeaway from this hearing, at least so far, is that Comey felt all the fired US Attorneys (excepting Ryan) were highly qualified and has no idea why anyone would fire them.
Comey is tooting the horns of the fired USAs, with specific examples fo their successes
This is really making a mockery of the DOJ bullshit about the reasons for the firings.
Even though the questions are weak, he is sneaking in a lot of calling bullshit into his answers
Helen @ 124
Different management style. Also a woman — remember that some of these misogynistic boneheads in Congress will ride roughshod over any woman, and strong women who don’t put up with it get labeled. She could use some work on this, but I’m not going to fault her.
new thread upstairs
looseheadprop @ 122
Yes, I think you’re probably right.
Still, I had higher hopes for more insight on Sampson and Gonzalez at least.
Seems that many of the folks at the lake are more informed about these issues than some of the congressmen.
I posted this yesterday. It states Sampson as a source as explaining how the process works in regard to Ag Black from Guam & Northern Marina Islands who was fired after working AG for 10 years.
I. INTRODUCTION
This report describes the Office of the Inspector General’s (OIG) investigation regarding allegations raised by Frederick Black, the former interim U.S. Attorney for Guam and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI). Black alleged that he was replaced as the interim U.S. Attorney because he called for an investigation of Washington, D.C., lobbyist Jack Abramoff and also because he supported applying federal immigration law to the CNMI, a position Abramoff opposed.
Black had served as the interim United States Attorney for Guam and the CNMI since 1991. On November 19, 2002, President Bush nominated Leonardo Rapadas, a lawyer in the Guam Attorney General’s office, to be the Presidentially appointed U.S. Attorney for that district. On May 22, 2003, Rapadas was sworn in as the U. S. Attorney and has remained in that position since then.
Link
Who made the fucking list?!!!!?
When I read Comey’s Farewell Address I tried to imagine what it would have sounded like if Gonzo had made it.
It would have rung so hollow. He couldn’t have delivered the quote from Wesley, and the words of praise of every employee, and the respect they deserved - from the janitor to the Attorney General - would deserve heckling.
Finally, a good question. Comey’s response on termination was excellent: I made the decision, presented the case to AG AG, and tasked the resignation request to Margolis.
None of this “I don’t recall, I don’t know, I was just the aggregator.”
Nice contrast to Sampson’s, McNulty’s, and Gonzo’s testimony.
I came in late. Did anyone ask Comey about the circumstances of his resignation?
.
It looked like Comey chocked up after she read that e-mail he wrote.
I can answer Rep. Johnson’s question about rectifying the firing of USA’s by virtue of political affiliation: IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT; GET A NEW ADMINISTRATION! CLEAN UP THE WHITE HOUSE!
Sorry for yelling.
It’s so nice to hear honesty voiced within the walls of our Congress. It’s been a loong time. I applaud Mr. Comey. What a professional.
looseheadprop @
56
We need YOU there, lhp!
Could/did anyone spotlight your article from yesterday FDL to committee mbrs???
Is it too late? Are they “finished” with their questioning, just because of floor votes in the House? Noooooooooooooo! Puleeeeeeze!
im4mary @
142
Please. Don’t stop on our account. Sounds good! ;->
Adie @ 145
No kiddin’ The Dems will need hazmat suits going in.
From where? FEMA? Good f’in luck! This administration has practically DESTROYED EVERY DEPARTMENT! Oops, sorry, again. I get this way sometimes. Usually only when there is such glaring incompetence, deceit, criminal activity, etc. It tends to really piss me off!
To me, this was the most damning part of the testimony….
tthe idea that Kyle Sampson was distributing a list of people to be fired WITHOUT consulting his first deputy is damning…
ZD