
The tone of this is odd. Comey is very respectful of DOJ and was not involved in a lot of these activities, so the bulk of questions establish that he did not hear any complaints about any of the people who were fired.
Cannon has just tried to use Comey's commitment to DOJ to argue that they should just move on. Otherwise, the Republicans aren't really asking questions. Dems have just started a second round of questions.
Sanchez: Raises McKay's refusal to bring vote fraud case in WA. Now moves on to Charlton (Comey says that Charlton is one of the best USAs).
Sanchez now asking about one case where Charlton argued against a death penalty case.
Comey: I remember a case where Charlton called to give information that was not in the file. I think it was a case where we had sought the death penalty, in the first case we had rejected that, Charlton made a very convincing case to turn it around. His concern was for the victim's family. They wanted to resolve this on a life plea. I changed my recommendation. I think I convinced John Ashcroft on it. I would never, not only discourage it, but I would encourage it. I wouldn't know about the victim's family, he would.
Sanchez now asking about the Renzi case. Comey only knows from reading the newspaper.
Sanchez now asking about Bogden.
Congressman Johnson now picking up questions about Bogden.
Comey: He was fired up USA. We were looking for a USA to do the Violent Crime program.
Congressman Johnson: Do you agree that Iglesias is one of the good USA.
Comey: Sort of the Bogden of NM. Very straight, very good.
Comey: Contact with the violent crime initiative, Albequerque had a significant drop in crime because of the program.
I used to tease Iglesias about being the model for Tom Cruise. I'd tease him that he wasn't as cute as Tom Cruise.
If a USA was away to serve his country as a Navy JAG, it's not something I'd hold against him.
I used to have a very competent FAUSA. I used to give David Kelley all the hard stuff to do. (Hey, folks, why don't you ask why Kelley got fired??? Hint hint)
Cannon: I wanted to point out that you worked with USAs a significant time earlier than they got fired. My experience with Mr. Iglesias was startling. When I asked Iglesias about his contacts, he said he had reported those contacts, I said when, he said by talking to the press. He made a distinction between announcing indictments and announcing that there would be action. I think that what I've said is a fair characterization of the record before us.
[Cannon trying to rebut Comey's presentation of the USAs as very competent.]
It sounds like he screwed up and should have made the call. It doesn't change my experience that he was competent guy and good USA.
Cannon: Would that cause you to question his judgment?
Comey: It strikes me as curious.
Cannon: the point is that people change and there's a time lag.
Cannon: This is a rethinking, a grasping at straws. This has shown itself to be a thoughtful, competent process.
Sanchez. This is an investigation where we're trying to find out the circumstances of why these USAs were fired. No one at DOJ seems to know who made the list, or why these people were fired.
Cannon: we've been through the issue about performance. McNulty was careful that it meant meeting the criteria of the Administration.
Comey looks like he's not having fun.
Cannon: what we've heard so far, he wasn't involved in that. He believes there's a process that was a significant process.
Will someone ask whether Comey believes there was a process if he, the DAG, was not part of it? Does he believe that having Ryan on the list, as laudable, when he had said he was weak, was a sound process?
Watt: Were any USAs asked to resign.
Comey: I remember 2 occasions on which USAs were asked to resign. One was when Ashcroft was AG. One was Gonzales was AG. I got his approval to have my senior staff member place a call and suggest that he resign. I talked to my staff, I had Margolis make a call, that it was time to leave, given the conduct that was discovered, it was not appropriate. One resigned, the other insisted on being fired by the President, so the President fired him by letter. In both the cases where I was involved with terminating a USA, the two were not close calls. As soon as you read about it, you said, this guy has got to go. We explained it to the person, Mr. Margolis explained it to them.
Sanchez: If a USA was fired for not following Administration priorities, would you expect that that would change the priorities in that office? if there was no discussion about what priorities were not discussed, would you expect there'd be any change of priority?
Sanchez: You had discussions with Ashcroft and Gonzales about underperforming USAs, right?
Comey: No, that was a bit of a garble by the reporter.
Sampson asked Comey about the weakest USA's "almost using the same words."
Sanchez: Is it proper to seek removal of US to influence bringing of cases?
Comey: It ought not to be done, I have no reason to believe it happened here.
Sanchez: Were there valid, performance-based reasons to fire these USAs. It's been reported that Pat Fitz was reported as in the middle category. What do you think of that?
Comey: I've never thought much of him. No. He's a very close friend of mine. I think he's one of the best USAs that is, or that has been. It would not be where I would put him on the list.
Comey: I think very highly of Stephen Biskupic.
Comey: It's a time of uncertainty and pain for people in the Department.
Comey: All that's necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to be silent.
Cannon: I appreciate your humor there. I'm going to read some of the things Margolis has said recently. About Iglesias, about Comey. Him is very fair, very decent. He's softer than I am on personnel judgments, but he had a better basis to make a judgment than I did. [Still trying to diss Iglesias as improper.]
Congressman Johnson for final questions.
Johnson: DOJ has confirmed that there is an investigation into loyalty oaths on hiring of career professionals.
Comey: if that was going on, that strikes at the core of what DOJ is. You cannot do that, you cannot fired AUSAs bc of political affiliation. That is the most serious thing I've heard. I hope it didn't happen, but that is a very serious thing. USAs can be terminated for any reason.
Johnson: if it is determinated that AUSAs have been hired on a political basis, what remedies would you suggest.
Comey: I don't know how you'd put that genie back in the bottle.
Johnson: Has any USA expressed concerns to you about this.
Comey: A couple have said they heard second-hand that this is going on.
Johnson: Care to identify those who you've had those discussions with.
Comey: I'd prefer not to.
Johnson: I'm sure that can be handled in more sensitive way. What kind of leadership will have to take place to ensure that future prosecutions are not tainted.
Comey: It's already starting, with Steve Biskupic, people are questioning his prosecutions.
Cannon: You've put perfect balance on the DOJ, the effect of this inquiry on the morale at DOJ, I'd like to point out that we haven't made any progress on WH role. We have a consensus process that happened over a period of time, I suspect that if there's a fair reporting of that, that's the meaning of this. I hope press picks up your loyalty, but also import of what DOJ does, and why it's important to get beyond this.
Sanchez: Thank you for your testimony. Your understanding the USAs and how it conflicts with the testimony of those who have come before the Committee.
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emptywheel!
some lag time here….
I’m lonely up here…
Bad lag time…
Awe, he gave a hat tip to Dave Kelley. That’s sweet
emptywheel @ 94
Jane S. @ 92
EW–did you do a post on Linx (sp)?
Yup, I did. Here it is.
I read it at the time. I encourage everyone to do so.
EW.
from Kathleen
Is there any association between the LINX system and Amdocs or Comverse Infosys?
http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..0443.shtml
Cannon: Iglesias didn’t tell DOJ about the congressional contacts
During the hearing live blog, please keep your comments brief, and on topic. Thanks.
Emptywheel for AG!
and feed the kitty her “kibble”
Cannon trying to get Comey to diss Iglesias
Is Cannon suggesting that Iglesias was competent at one point, but then somehow became incompetent?
Link to Comverse Amdocs, Infosy
http://www.newsmax.com/archive…..0443.shtml
God, Cannon is a tool. ‘Competent process”.
God I love these people who answer competently. Comey just gives that feeling he’s answering to the best of his ability and knowledge without a bias. It’s refreshing.
Cannon is stepping on the Chair’s perogatives . . . where’s her gavel to slap him down?
Who made the fucking list?!!?
Cannon/Orrin Hatch-Bot running static and his time is expired and he keeps talking *crickets chirping.*
Why are the republicans not doing any questioning?
Of course! he became incompetent when he refused to yeild to political pressure to turn up the heat on democratic investigations in time for an election. Sheesh! How much more incompetent can you get??
Our friendly neighborhood FDL server (the one you’re reading now, and refreshing to check on new basenotes and commentary) is pretty overburdened now, so if you want to see (and maybe join) a parallel live chat peopled by other ‘Pups, open a second browser window (using a second window is IMPORTANT!) and send that new window to http://gabbly.com/firedoglake.com — put a “handle” in the name block, and say “hi!” That window auto-refreshes every time you or anyone else presses RETURN, which is why you only want to ^R this window. This fast-moving (& addictive!) :) chat runs on an entirely different server somewhere else on the ‘net so it isn’t affected by overloads here.
… and now we return you to your normal thread now in progress…
Watt: What was the process that you used to fire USA?
OK FINALLY PROCESS
Comey: One was fired during Gonzales one during Ashcroft. Told Margolis to call them and ask them to resign. One resigned and the other insited on being fired by Pres, so we did that
Fern @ 19
Probably because there isn’t a single question they could ask at this point that would make Team Gonzo look better. As the saying goes, when you’re already up to your ears in horse shit, you really should keep your mouth shut.
Okay, Watt is starting to ask about Comey’s process. About time.
But someone needs to ask about the PATRIOT Act provision, and whether Comey had encountered any issues with letting district courts decide replacements.
Someone also needs to ask Comey about the process he followed for assembling his performance ratings. For comparison’s sake with Kyle’s Little List.
Again Riddle me this Mr Cannon…what was the process, who was involved in the process, and who created the list? Please do tell, because I don’t know it and no one in the DOJ seems to know it either. So since you’re so certain and satisfied, Mr. Cannon,that there was a process and know who was involved in it and know please share it with the rest of the committee and the American public so we can end this now.
So Cannon WAS involved in firing 2 USA’s in cases of misconduct. Doesn’t it seem like he therefore would have been involved in the firing of the 8 if it was legitimate?
Comey just put a lie to Cannon’s allegation.
Not Cannon…Comey. Sorry.
If fired USA and first deputy were never told what the deficiency was, how would they know to change the priority in that office.
Good shot by Sanchez.
Nice pickup!
The theory is that you can’t have an actual conspiracy of any size, because someone will always talk. My suspicion has been for a while that the Cheney and Rove have each managed to build fairly large conspiracies in which they are just about 100% certain that no one _will_ talk. And these hearings are confirming my suspicion.
Cranky
Almost sounds like there were two different systems of firing. Comey>Margolis>US attorney. & then Rove>Sampson/Goodling>(no contact)= fired attorney.
“Would that be proper?” :)
Sanchez makes point that “serves at the pleasure” should never = firing for retaliation.
She’s doing much better in this round
Fitz
Pat Fitz joke time
EPU’d:
JGabriel @
139
Now asking about Fitz. Here we go…
Has this question been asked: Was the President aware of the firings when they were being done?
mui, you’re right. the comey/margolis method for legitimate firings, the goodling/sampson method for…
Ah, we get to Fitz . . .
Comey: “I’ve never thought much of him. Just kidding”
On a ten minute coffee break — I hate meetings that last all morning! While I appreciate the live-blogging — thank you all so *very* much! — at the end of the CSpan broadcast, they’ll usually announce if it’ll be repeated later. If/when they do that, could someone note that on the boards? Thanks!
Also, for your fun and edification, may I share last night’s Astounding Bush White House Fact? From the WaPo: Bush has a President’s Council on Integrity and Efficiency.
And now ::pout!!::, I have to go back to work while y’all are laughing and enjoying the testimony. ::heads off sulking::
EW, Have you ever considered running for Congress? Inquiring minds want to know.
Sanchez: Fitz was rated medicore
Comey: I never thought much of him!! BWA HA HA. He’s a very close friend of mine and one of the best prosecutors.
Comey on Fitzgerald:
“I never thought much of him.”
Irony. Always a nice quality.
RonD @ 39
I love watching these hearings with so many smart people.
Peterr @ 40
C|N>K
coffee thru nose to keyboard (literally)
meep! @ 41
You can always go to the C-SPAN website, click on the archives of recent shows, and watch it at your leisure.
Biodun @ 38
According to the law he had to have been.
TexBetsy, me too.
Cannon – this is hysterical. Let’s do more jokes
Woah! “evil men”
Why is Cannon reading other people’s testimony?
Cranky Observer @ 30
Shrug. I’m quite happy to just pick off the point-men, then. Scooter Libby has already been convicted of 4 felonies. Sampson and Goodling have both lost their jobs. Gonzo is facing impeachment. If they all want to go down with the ship, I say let them go. And if they want to know how much luck they’ll have rehabilitating their images if they STILL cover for Bush, they can pick up a copy of Tenet’s new book.
Texas Betsy @ 52
Cuz he’s still trying to diss Igelsias, this time using other people’s words.
He’s trying to undercut Comey’s praise of Iglesias.
Neil @ 42
Neil, I can’t even be tactful enough to remain effective at the COunty party officer level. Congress is not an option.
But some day I am going to run for European Parliament from Sligo, Ireland. Politicians have to be less tactful in Europe.
Neil @ 42
Besides, to run for Congress, I would have to take on Congressman John Dingell. I like the COngressman. More importantly, he’s absolutely unbeatable.
God, Cannon is a tool.
Cannon – let’s get this over with. Nothing to see here
Sanchez seems to be out of her depth.
hey my question!
I don’t know if it is frowned upon to ask questions which require Comey to connect the dots but…
(1) all the fired USAs (except Ryan) were strong performers;
(2) when Comey had serious problems with USAs that would affect their employment, it was carefully documented and communicated to the USAs in question.
(3) So what do you make of a process to fire esteemed USAs without communicating to them the reasons and without being able to explain the process used?
RonD @ 60
Agreed…
See Cannon reading other people’s testimony because Iglesias didn’t report (immediately) Dominici or Wilson’s phone calls to him to proper DOJ authorities…he got this in through a back door using the yuk, yuk, yuk, yuk jokester approach. Ahh. that Cannon such a kidder ain’t he. Yeehaww.
Are they preparing to adjourn for a break? Or to adjourn completely?
Johnson on the litmus test
Comey gets his licks in here
Johnson: OIG and OPR investigation whether partisan political tests were done, what impact would that have?
Comey: That is the most serious thing that has come up inthis entire process. You CANNOT do that.
Johnson is doing well here.
Oooh… What steps should we take to keep from having partisan hirings again?
Very good question.
Comey: If process is politicized, no way to fix it. Scary.
They haven’t asked him about the Abu order to give all authority to Goodling and Sampson? I’d love to hear him react to that.
If it’s established that they were hired on political partisn basis, what remedy do we have.
Comey: Don’t know how to put that geenie back in the bottle
Has anyone expressed this as a problem to you?
Comey: A couple of people heard this second and third hand
Near the end and no new information has come out. Comey has comported himself well but IMO this has been less than satisfying.
I’m very very impressed with Johnson.
How to put that genie back in the bottle?
What kind of leadership will we need to prevent political hirings?
Why doesn’t someone ask Comey if he thinks there was a parallel shadow process of picking and firing USA’s that he was deliberately being shut out of and if he thinks this process was legitimate at the very least or perhaps criminal at the worst.
Here comes the tool again.
Will this end completely in 10 minutes? Or take a break?
From what I remember reading of Biskupic. He wasn’t straight on in his post-list prosecution, in spite of what Comey says.
Cannon: It’s the inquiry that’s affecting moral at DOJ
Texas Betsy @ 78
Sounds like the end completely.
Couple USAs told him that AUSAs where being litmus ested? Whoboy!
Jaohnson how do we deal with improper hirings?
Comey”Can’t put the genie back in the bottle”
Johnson almost implying that all recent AUSA hires should be .. .. WhAt? fired? Then who will do the work?
Comey is right, how do you put that genie back in the bottle. Clearly having AUSA on your resume with the Shrub years next to it won’t be as big a deal as having it on your resume ith any other set of years.
mui @ 79
Was he forced to make partisan decisions?
Yeah, it’s the inquiry not the fact that they politicized the DOJ.
Cannon seems to be straight out of the Limbaugh School of Fatassery. Graduation was grand!!!
Someone should tell Cannon that his party should stop obstructing and hand over what they’ve been asked for and perhaps this shit would be cleared up sooner rather than later. Hearing over now…
It’s over. We learned nothing. Oh man, I where were the fireworks??
Canon is really slimey.
the end
When Bill Kristol was excited by the Gonzales scandal and wanted Gonzales gone I knew something was up. I have always thought that a big part of this Gonzales scandal was a way for the Israeli firsters to take out Paul McNulty. This is a great article about the upcoming espionage trial http://www.counterpunch.org/petras01072006.html
There has been very little written or reported about this upcoming trial over the last year in the MSM…hell no! I did hear Chris Matthews whisper on his show that the trial had been delayed again. A bit of Chutzpah! You can go to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Haartz, Antiwar.com and Forward to read more about this upcoming trial.
There are four weeks until this trial starts.What a way to cast clouds over the upcoming A*P*C/Rosen espionage trial coming up on June 4th. That is if the trial is not delayed for the 5th time, or dismissed which the Israeli lobby has been pushing for.
Four weeks for a cloud to be cast over the trial. Taking out McNulty would be one big cloud.
A*P*C and the U.S. media
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/gs…..leid=10853
This article has been on the front page at Jewish Telegraphic Agency’s Website for over a month…. unusual.
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow…../1483.html
Abe Foxman of the Anti Defamation League has been interferring with the trial and attempting to cast a cloud over this trial from the beginning.
Abe Foxman and A*P*C
http://www.richardsilverstein&…..#more-2394
I am very frustrated. I think they could have gotten much more, they just didn’t ask enough of the right questions.
11:10 am edt
gaveled adjourned.
Okay, that’s it. Time to get in touch with the smartest Dems on the subcommittee with follow-up questions on pertinent subjects, because that was ultimately underbriefed and unsatisfying.
Wow, Comey is really really tall!
I’m not sure what more Comey could say if in fact he was left out of the loop on this process. However, his testimony lays out quite well that the USA’s that were fired were all very competent attorneys that he would not have fired. And it says that there were rumors in DOJ of the politicization of the process. And his testimony states that if this happened — it is THE worst thing that could happen to the integirty and honest operations of our US DOJ!
Jane S. @ 91
But why not?
They missed the right questions with him. He knows something. They just can’t get at it.
But his testimony was very, very damaging to Alberto’s story. It is obvious there was no process and the six were dismissed because of loyalty to the WH.
i think the idea was simply
to collect the evidence that
contradicts the earlier stuff. . .
kinda dry. . . yep.
Goddamnit
Comey left them every opening. The questioning was so milktoast.
Why didn’t they open up the throttle?
Thanks for live blogging this. I caught the very end on C-span.
Did not seem to get much accomplished with this.
for once i beg to differ on Sanchez’s seeming ineptitude today… She’s really no Whitehouse but the line of quesioning did three things:
1. Process has been altered by politization
2. Trust has been lost–is difficult to regain(a bipartisan issue in those who love justice)
and 3) what a contrast between competency between Fitz and Comet etal as opposed to Sampson and Goodling. My $.02 cents worth
Comey just needed to be on the record so that it can help set-up the others. I.E., why wasn’t DAG involved if these were bad USAs?
Um, what else were you guys expecting? He got up there and said these were all good people, and there was no good reason to fire them. There’s really not that much more he could’ve said. If he’s really a straight-shooter, it’s not like Karl Rove would be cc’ing him his e-mails.
So, firepups: how about a collective brainstorm, assemble a list of follow-up questions to be forwarded to Comey, and pass them on to Sanchez’s office? (Or to another Dem who seems clued, such as Hank Johnson?)
looseheadprop @ 99
I know. Especially when he explicitly said that he would answer any question asked by the committee, even ones he didn’t want to answer. Hopefully someone will ask some good quesitons in written form.
snowbird42 @ 84
Link
What was established is that something in the DOJ changed and that Comey was kept out of the loop.
When he said that he had heard rumors that partisanship was involved and then basically pseudo-reluctantly agreed to provide names, I found that telling.
Did Comey say why he left the DOJ?
Although I wasn’t able to listen/view the hearings by the tone of comments it seems that the questions and testimony was very not particularly satisfying. I fear that all of these hearings will not end with a bang but with a whimper. When will Democrats begin to put the Republicans in their place? Dems still play the Congressional version of kabuki theatre, esteemed and honorable colleagues indeed!
looseheadprop @ 99
lhp – why this committee? Can Henry get his hands on Comey?
RonD @ 108
I don’t believe he was asked.
One elephant in the room. The Plame Affair. I wonder why anyone didn’t ask him about his role in that?
Of course, THAT was the reason why he never met or spoke to Karl Rove. He erected a firewall in that case. I would’ve like to hear someone ask him about how and why he did that.
Comey seemed to me the perfect example of a “good lawyer” careful, caring and hands on. The difference between he and Gonzalez is astounding. He clearly laid out the the AG s are damaged and unsure and hes horrified at all of this. He didnt have any secrets in my opinion
The guy wasn’t in position when the firings went down. He has no direct knowledge of the motivation of Gonzo and thugs. Can’t squeeze blood out of a turnip.
Jim Clausen @ 101
That came out despite Sanchez, not because of her.
The best that came out was when Watt asked about other firings — how did this happen when you were at DOJ? By Comey’s answer, it was crystal clear that the Sampson process was about anything but improper USA conduct.
This should have been at the beginning of the hearing, not the end. The committee members had their moments, but no coherent approach to the hearing was in place.
All in all, a lot was missed.
Woodhall Hollow @ 106
I disagree that Comey was all that forthcoming. I find it impossible remembering Sheldon Whitehouse’s chart that there wasn’t more contact , and that Comey wasn’t aware of a parallel hiring/firing process.
Anyone know where the documents that were mentioned from Sampson to Meirs can be found?
Woodhall Hollow @ 105
1) Who made the list?
2) What were the specific reasons these USA’s were let go?
3) Who authorized their firing?
Frank Probst @ 103
It’s all inference, but the importance is establishing contrasts in process: for instance, as DAG, did Comey consider it problematic that replacement USAs could be appointed by courts? What discussions, if any, took place regarding the expiration of USAs’ four-year terms?
There are so many people offering the I-know-nothing defence over the 2006 firings that it muddies just who ought to have known something.
At least I can look forward to Abu getting his ass sandpapered again.
And I am waiting to see what comes from the email subpoena.
This ain’t over by a long shot.
RonD @ 108
His answer to that question won’t help much. If he says that he left because the DOJ was becoming too politicized, he’ll be asked why he didn’t complain about it at the time, and the Republicans will point out that he’s also making a gazillion dollars at his new job.
FYI if you don’t already know. Safavian worked for Cannon before he went to the WH.
Helen @
111
I’m w/you, Helen. Get Comey in front of a committee w/a stronger chairperson & better leadership & direction.
Dems tryin to get some dirt that puts pressure on ol Monica ta give up Rover and the Clusterfuck. We’ll see.
Woodhall Hollow @ 113
Yes, I agree that would have been an interesting line of questioning. But I am sure the Repugs would try to say that it was not relevant to this investigation.
Let the dust settle for a day or two. Maybe Comey will expound??
sofistic @ 122
And before he went to jail.
mui @ 80
I’m not taking a position on Biskupic, but at least two Democrats, State Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager and Milwaukee DA McCann supported the prosecution. I think their support was back aways and it could easily have been politically motivated as well. I think Comey knows a lot more than he’s saying, but guys like he and Fitz were all that stood between us and a monarchy back in 2003. I think he could have done more, but it looks as though absolutely everyone else did an awful lot LESS.
Appreciated everyone comments, and especially lhp’s observation about how tired he looked.
Peterr at 106
I agree with the in spite of Sanchez comment. I am grasping at straws over my disappoinment at the scattershot hearing. God I wish these committee members knew of FDL and would take a sabbatical here.
sofistic @
123
White House…Big House…
The record remains open….
Question I’d like asked…
Mr. Comey, in your tenuere as DAG, what was the scope of your interactions with the White House?
Can’t Henry call him up to speak about the Plame outing? To ask him if there was any pressure from the WH (Gonzales?!?!) or Ashcroft — regarding his decision to appoint Fitz and regarding subsequent decisions he made in that regard?
On behalf of everyone in FL, let me apologize for Adam Putnam (on CSpan3 now).
Question: Can the committee call Comey back for more questions or sned him written statements to answer?
MORE BOLD TYPE!!!
EW for Congress!!
LS @ 108
How much more obvious could he have made it, that if they only asked good questions, he would spill whatever he had?
God! I hate squandered opportunities.
SO MUCH FRUSTRATION RIGHT NOW. Thank heaven there are no mallowmars in the house or I would be binge eating right now. ARRRRGGH!
Woodhall Hollow @ 133
Don’t see how that is relevant to the matter at hand…
Actually, on second thought maybe it is…
I have to say that this isn’t the first time I have seen a committee chaired by Sanchez that has that scattershot quality.
Adam Putnam — new Hit-Doody
RonD @ 109
NO
He wasn’t asked
John Casper @ 129
By sending an innocent woman to prison on flimsy evidence that the judges condemned?
nolo @ 98
nolo any new dirt this morning
Comey Was Cut out of Firing Process
Muckrakers take
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/
Fern @ 137
Wasn’t it Gonzales who didn’t inform the WH to save all material evidence to the Plame investigation for something like a day? What did Comey know about that? ETC. It goes to Gonzales and the way he operates…
Helen @ 111
I have no freakin’ clue.
Am too frustrated to be tactful
RonD @ 133
Unless you’re his father, there’s really no need.
Generally staff lawyers do preliminary interviews before a hearing. Dems probably knew that there was nothing earth shattering to get out of this guy except that he “heard rumors”.
Comey was being ‘read into the record’ as a fair, competent and focused leader.
He’s obviously the choice of the rank-and-file DoJ staff to be the next AG.
This was a good hearing as a blocking move in anticipation of Bush possibly replacing Abu with another ‘loyal Bushie.’
The real fireworks, imvho, right now are over Leahy’s subpoena of Rove’s e-mails. Leahy is asking for RNC e-mails he KNOWS exist – Fitz got them as part of the Leak Investigation – and which are, presumably, somewhere in DoJ.
So, no fishing trip there and no Privilege to protect the evidence from collection.
The Rove subpoena should be unstoppable.
mui @ 117
You think he lied about having contact with Sampson and Rove? Got some support for that?
[Mod Note: no more nesting in this comment please]
looseheadprop @ 99
He definitely left many remarks hanging there, waiting for them to ask the next logical question. When I was watching, he said something, and my mind instantly said, “Ask the next question.” Wish I could remember which one it was, but if this hick from the sticks knew that if Comey said X to ask X Y, why am I sitting here and those dufuses on the Subcommittee aren’t falling asleep at their computers?
Quzi @ 135
Yes, but they probably won’t.
snowbird42 @ 144
I started to read that, but it seems Comey was perfectly capable of exercising firing powers when it came to the legitamte cases via Margolis. Something smells funny.
I wanted someone to ask him what his thoughts are as to why he was left out of the loop.
Woodhall Hollow @ 145
Yes, I see your point – what was Comey’s experience with political interference from the administration.
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Was this morning’s hearing a case of the grownups giving the children an opportunity to get some experience?
Cannon, is presumably a Mormon and having watched some of the PBS
series this week, it seems to me that Mormons are on a par with the Scientologists.
looseheadprop @ 146
Thank you. I think you should go out and buy those mallomars!!!
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looseheadprop @ 150
Nope. Just exercising my right to doubt. Remember Sheldon Whitehouse’s chart?
JGabriel#146, Thanks-he’s just such an embarrasment to the thinking people of district 12(where I live); he’s been angling to inherit the mantle of Tom DeLay.
Helen @
111
At what point might James Comey be invited to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee?
EPU’d
looseheadprop @
56
We need YOU there, lhp!
Could/did anyone spotlight your article from yesterday FDL to committee mbrs???
Is it too late? Are they “finished” with their questioning, just because of floor votes in the House?!?
LJ/Aquaria @ 151
Which is why is would have been nice if Whitehouse had been on this committee. He knows how to ask a question.
looseheadprop @ 137
God! I hate squandered opportunities.
SO MUCH FRUSTRATION RIGHT NOW. Thank heaven there are no mallowmars in the house or I would be binge eating right now. ARRRRGGH!
Sounds like it might be time for some physical therapy, to work some of that out.
looseheadprop @ 140
WHY NOT???
Somewhere this morning, I heard or read that the Rove emails that they are asking for from the DOJ are the one’s relating to the Plame case – that DOJ withheld them from Fitz. Now, I’m wondering who he was really referring to when he said the “sand in the eyes” thingy. Was DOJ blatantly obstructing justice right in Fitz’s face, and how could they get away with that without Fitz or someone coming forward – or has he tipped someone off to ask for them…
Woodhall Hollow @ 133
Not a good idea, at least not right now. The big issue in the Plame betrayal right now is Libby’s sentencing. The big right-wing talking point there was that there was no “underlying crime”. Waxman’s already shot that one all to hell. Fitz can now go to sentencing and point out that the Director of the CIA said she was covert, so don’t try any bullshit about “no underlying crime”. That leaves Libby with the “scapegoat/fall guy” defense. That one’s awfully weak, and Fitz will helpfully point out that he doesn’t remember Libby testifying that he thought he was being set up. There’s no sense in Waxman going after Libby’s co-conspirators until Libby himself has been firmly nailed to the wall, as it’ll just provide fodder for the “scapegoat” defense. Patience.
RonD @ 134
OMG, I was screaming at my teevee this morning listening to him on Washington Journal…he has got to go!
mui @ 157
My impression of Comey is that he played by the book. I doubt that political operatives would’ve daired to touch him through those channels. And given the recent revelations of secret memos, one wonders about the existence of back-door policies that he wasn’t aware of. Or how much of what Whitehouse revealed occurred after Gonzales took over the Mother Ship.
mui @
117
i agree – i think he was only “selectively” forthcoming, & i believe his openness & statements of support actually also served to cloud his true core position of trying to not say anything that would be construed as inflamatory towards the admin.
while my experience of working closely w/ lawyers for 6 years taught me to respect them tremendously, i also learned about how their training causes their minds to work. (shiney, shiney – look over here)
nothing was as it appeared superficially w/ what comey said. and i havent forgotten that several of the congress ppl were lawyers as well. this is a big lawyerly game being played out in all these hearings. i only pray its the good guys who end up speaking loudest & getting the best press coverage so that our lethargic/cool-aid drunk fellow americans wake up from the stupor the bad lawyers in our governmenbt has put them in (via the msm) over the last 6 years.
again – i have the greatest respect for lawyers, your training & your profession. i have zero respect for those lawyers who use their training to manipulate laws & the judicial process.
peace
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mui @ 158
Actually only vaguely, where there interactions between omey and the Roversters on the chart?
mui @ 157
I’m with lhp on this. The idea that Comey would have anything better than barely civil exchanges with Rove (and apparently they never met), is patently ridiulous given Comey’s role in forcing Ashcroft to recuse himself in the Plame matter, and appointing Fitzgerald.
I thought Abu G was going to have to return to the Senate Committee for more testimony. When will that happen? Anyone know?
mui @ 158
The chart describe who was allowed to have contact between WH and DOJ on active cases, not who actually did.
Based on Comey’s farewell address, I don’t think he ever initiated any contact with the WH for political reasons, and if Rove was looking for someone at DOJ to do his bidding, there are a whole lot of other boxes in that chart I think he’d call before he got to Comey.
Frank Probst @ 164
Ahh, excellent point! And actually, the sentancing isn’t all that far off now, is it. Maybe we can look forward to some nice summer hearings a la Watergate!
Three judges overturned the jury’s verdict.
I had no particular problem with the judges overturning the verdict, but the problem with their decision has to do with what I think is wide spread and usually referred to as “constructive fraud.”
People in business and government routinely make a mockery of administrative law and regulations by doing favors for one another. While they do not receive cash payment, they get marginally increased job security and a lot of other perks that ultimately end up injuring the taxpayers. Again, I have no problem with letting this particular defendant/victim out of jail, but it was most unhelpful to everyone who understands “constructive fraud.”
“Milktoast” and kool-aid anyone?
Did someone slip the kool-aid into the panels water?
looseheadprop @ 137
They very carefully said that questions could be addressed in a more sensitive situation, so I’m hoping they hammer him in a private room somewhere or in the 5-day follow-up written questioning.
pwrlght @ 152
Is there any way for the public to put pressure on the committee to do so? How many of us calling the Judiciary Committee and writing letters (that contain questions for the committee to ask him) would it take? Just a thought.
Chart available here
Adie @ 161
Tecnically, can they have some come back? Yeah, look at Alberto.
But it is considered bad form (for lack of a better word), like admitting you didn’t do it right the first time.
So, you only have the witness back a second time if some really huge new facts come to light
OR
If it is the WITNESS who didn’t do it right the first time—like ALberto
Peterr @ 163
Sounds like it might be time for some physical therapy, to work some of that out.
Coincidentaley, I had the forethought to schedulea P/T for tonight. Thanks for tthinking about my welfare
It’s difficult for me to believe that an avowed idealist like Comey would just up and quit the DOJ for less than a very good reason.
looseheadprop @ 136
LHP- Put your questions in wrnting and send them to Sanchez. Snail mail WILL get read. (Email may not.)
Ya ain’t gonna strike gold every day out. Still plenty of peeps ta talk to- and some know where the bodies are buried. Looks as if this guy just didn’t.
RonD @ 181
What is he doing now?
Trying to find a silver lining, it makes political sense for the Dems to find a Republican hero/Comey. That makes it much easier to make this a bi-partisan search for who at DOJ decided to fire ten USA’s.
Woodhall Hollow @ 167
I am sure you’re right and Comey is a straight guy. But so was Iglesias. That didn’t stop any of the Rove-bots from contacting. And now doubt Comey rebuffed like Iglesias. Even straight guys need to protect themselves, and I think it seems Comey wants to help as much as he can (e.g. praising the fired attorneys), but is perhaps a little to cautious to be too helpful on the Karls Shop. Maybe that’s my point. There are all these fine indicators: Biskupic. The email Comey wrote. The octopus like chart, S.Whitehouse produced. The fact that Comey could fire legitimately, while Sampson/Goodling went ahead with their work.
RonD @ 180
I thought I read somewhere that he had a bunch of kids that were getting close to college age. Of course, that might not necessarily be the ONLY reason, but if things were not going according to his liking in the Justice Dept, he might think why force my kids to take out loans for the sake of these clowns? But that would be hard testimony to “get” — if in fact, he was concerned about family finances. As in a lawyerly sense, it is true (if what I remember is correct).
Neil @ 183
But, doesn’t snailmail take forever, because of security concerns???
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EW,
If you are still around, do you care to share your thoughts on Comey’s testimony today? Or will you be writing about it on your blog?
Frank Probst @
166
Do any of you attorneys have a guesstimate on what Libby’s sentence will be? How many years will he be locked up?
Will the upcoming A*P*C trial have a cloud cast over it if McNulty is tarnished in the AG scandal.
these links did not make it when I submitted them. I’ll try again
A*P*C trial by Petras (Mcnulty is mentioned)
http://www.counterpunch.org/petras01072006.html
A*P*C and the U.S. media
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/gs…..leid=10853
This article has been up at the Jewish Telegraphic website for over a month
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow…../1483.html
Abe Foxman and the A*P*C trial
http://www.richardsilverstein……i-bishara/
Texas Betsy @ 178
gosh i loved it when he displayed that chart! made me think about moving to RI from NY just to be one of whitehouse’s constituents :)
TexasBetsy#184,
I don’t know. The reference to him being a private citizen was the first I’d heard of him not being in the DOJ.
Clearly, Iglesias was onto the crooked DOJ leadership at the time of the calls Domenici and Wilson made. The reason he didn’t report it to DOJ (thank God) was probably because he knew it would never see the light of day. He played it right then, and he’s playing it right now.
Jim Clausen @ 102
John Casper
I wrote these questions before the hearing so while I hate squandered opportunities I think Comey served a purpose. Then include the questions we can send to Sanchez while record remains open
LHP: But, doesn’t snailmail take forever, because of security concerns???
Maybe you’re right. FAX them. Anyone, you are really wellinformed and heve great questions. They might be helpful to the investigation.
RonD @ 193
He’s General Counsel at Lockheed Martin
With this morning’s subcommittee meeting, the Dems set the bar VERY high for replacing Gonzo.
So, for instance, if the Senate impeaches Gonzales for withholding his ’secret’ order from Mar 2006, which was material and relevant to the SJC’s investigation, then the stage is set to have a real Law Enforcement professional – Jim Comey – lead DoJ back to credibility with the nation.
Not a bombshell meeting – not intended to be a bombshell meeting – just good tactical positioning.
mui @ 185
Yeah. But if there are scads of emails between Rove and other DOJ employees and not him, it makes a better point if it shows that he was always out of *that* loop. And I would bet dollars to donuts that some of his friends in DOJ have gossiped to him about them. It would be better for him (and the whole case) to let the subpeanas do the work. It is so much more dramatic on the printed page.
Speaking of which (and OT), I saw Greg Palast speak, and he was reading excerpts from emails between Rove and Griffin about his book from the emails accidently sent to the wrong GWB dot com or org. It was hilarious.
LHP–I am with you. Frustrated to the point that I think smoke is coming out of my ears. The Comey thing but I am also deeply concerned that the DOJ investigation of Goodling is a roadblock to congress. I feel like its the Saturday Night Massacre, only much, much worse…
Shouldn’t he be asked about whether or not he was aware of the secret order delegating hire/fire authority to Goodling and Sampson?
If they were trying to restore a sense of trust today…they came up short.
Milktoast and koolaid!
Anyone know how long Sampson and Goodling have been with DOJ? Where they there while Comey was still there.
Texas Betsy @ 185
“In August 2005, Comey left the DOJ and he is now General Counsel and Senior Vice President of Lockheed Martin.”
For wiki it’s worth:)
LS @ 166
Sorry, but you’d have to go a long way to be as sorry as I am about a good 90% of the Texas Republican delegation. Joe Barton. Louie Gohmert–what a bunch of asshats. When Ron Paul is the sanest one in the bunch…well, that says it all.
looseheadprop @ 181
Coincidentaley, I had the forethought to schedulea P/T for tonight. Thanks for tthinking about my welfare
Forget those damn mallowmars … meditation is your best friend …
Helen @ 197
In April 2005, Comey announced that he was leaving the Department of Justice in the fall. In August 2005, from wiki
Fern @ 203
Marcy did a great timeline yesterday. You will find it there.
Someone on a thread the other day said Comey works for Lockheed Martin now.
I think thats the company.
Anyone else remember?
Bustednuckles @ 209
Yes it is Lockheed Martin
Too late, h/t Texas Betty.
Ok, LJ Aquaria, #204, I’ll defer my apology to yours-but that makes it no less sincere.LOL.
I agree.
Or post them here at FDL and ask all of us to fax them to Sanchez. If Sanchez gets a couple of hundred faxes with questions crafted by emptywheel and lhp …., it’s more likely they are put in the record.
Bustednuckles @ 207
And likely making some very seious moolah. Which would be another reason he would be constrained–not good for his new job to become too controversial. Particularly since Lockheed does ALOT of gov’t biz.
LJ/Aquaria @ 205 says:
You missed the (not so) esteemed Lamar Smith, our wondrous congress critter from san antone. Or were you purposefully trying to forget him?
LHP — if you have questions, email me.
I have a contact.
Well…maybe instead of bringing him back to this panel, they can get him in front of Leahy or Waxman.
Quick impressions…
Sanchez – not quite ready for prime time;
Conyers – didn’t set the world on fire but props for getting the committee to the position they are in;
Johnson – very interesting – probably the most on point;
Watt – also interesting;
Cannon? – major friggin’ carbuncle
People, duh-uh! Comey works for a corporation making oodles of money off the Iraq War, and he’s a Repubican. Do you seriously think he’s going to blow the lid on the Bush administration? John Dean, not.
JGabriel @ 171
Oh hold up. I am not suggesting that Comey is not a straight guy. I am suggesting that Karls Shop would have no scruples in allowing Comey to see what was going on. Iglesias is a straight guy as well and was contacted by the likes of Domenici and Heather Wilson.
dakine01 @ 214
You missed the (not so) esteemed Lamar Smith, our wondrous congress critter from san antone. Or were you purposefully trying to forget him?
Whenever possible!
Seriously, it would have taken me forever to list all the idiot Republicans Texas has sent to the hill this session. Gohmert is an especially rancid little turd.
OT, emptywheel, I think you are way valuable to our nation as a blogger. I just hope we can find someway to make it profitable for you so we can keep you out of Congress.
Also, anyone who has read ANATOMY OF DECEIT knows that you are a pillar of diplomacy. Unfortunately, so many in Congress choose to be uninformed about the real details and real consequences of their decisions, their comments lack the requisite passion, that always informs yours.
Woodhall Hollow @ 188
At the time he left, the 5 kids worth of college tution excuse was being touted by his friends. It was code for “don’t push on this” when anyone asked what triggered his departure.
In a macro sense, it’s very obvious why he left. Think about it, every godamned day he was forced to be the guy who had to tilt at the windmills–that gets exhausting after while and at some point you fear you are losing all effectiveness because you find out that they are
shocker
Doing an end run around you. As he pointed out today.
I have no clue what it was, but there had to be at least a straw that broke the camel’s back, but I think maybe something more serious, that was the trigger.
The reason I think that, strick adherence to the kid’s college tution story from the people who love him best.
Jim Comey is a good, good man. And was obviously prepared to suffer in silence.
I thought the email Sanchez used, the one with quote about “all that is necessary for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing”, indicated that he was willing to et well outside his comfort zone and break his silence.
Even his reluctant willingness to out private conversations speaks volumes.
I didn’t see him pull any punches. I saw him waiting for good probing questions.
Look, if he had gone in there and dominated the conversation and answered questions that werene’t asked he would be undercutting his own credibility and diluting the value of what he had to say.
He’s a trial professional. He is in the business of transmitting crediitly. You don’t want a witness spouting his own agenda. Juries–and the american people are the jury here, don’t believe witnesses like that
they believe witnesses who confine themsleves to answering the question that was aksed as plainly and forthrightly as they can.
Which is what he did.
It is very interesting to note that Josh Bolten’s takeover as Chief of staff at the WH occurred at exactly (to the day) as Sampson’s and Goodling’s
start of their little partisan project at DOJ. I think that is who, how, and when the list was generated. Just my humble 2 cents.
oops@219
emptywheel @ 56
I’m glad you’re thinking about it. You’d be great. Even better if you did it here.
I would like to announce the creation of a new acronym by LJ Aquaria#219: RLT=rancid little turd. ROTF!
LS @ 195
No, he didn’t report it because he was hoping and prying that Domenici would have enough sense to let it die with the ill considered phone call to Inglesias.
Inglesias knew if he reported it, there would be no doubt that he was not a go along to get along guy. He was trying to keep his integrity under the radar.
There have been other periods when career folks have had to find some non controversial work to do, so that no one would notice they had any intergrity.
Heh. Who woulda thought my usual term for that RLT would be an acronym someday? ;)
Woodhall Hollow @ 199
I wonder what they wrote. Poor Greg Palast.
LHP, I share your frustration. But given the insane system of questioning, it really is difficult to do get down to the real nitty-gritty.
I wish that each side could designate one or two memebers to do all the questioning. Better yet, would be for each side to be able to designate a skilled trial lawyer to ask the questions.
And with that, I bid all adieu. Gotta sleep sometime….
Rayne @ 216
Awesome Rayne!
looseheadprop @ 227
Great point. That does make sense.
Sleep well, LJ/Aq. Always a pleasure.
Sligo is it? What a beautiful place!!!
Neil @ 232
All we need is some sunshine and some Rayne…
mui @ 227
They were crowing about the fact that the NYTimes was ignoring his book, and that only the Brits were reading it.
But Karl & Timmy must be eating some crow now, cause this week it is 14 on the NYTimes bestseller list. LOL!
New thread from Marcy.
New Threadhttp://www.firedoglake.com/200…..y-scandal/
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old gold @ 231
They can. That’s how Fred Thompson got his start.
looseheadprop @ 241
Which begs the question, why the hell haven’t they? I hope that it is because they are holding their fire, for now.
Who the ____ is Cannon? These western states (of which I’m a resident) must be friggin oxygen deprived. What happened to our ‘western code of conduct’. Was it a legend that we lived by our handshake? Because I sure don’t remember it looking like the Bush’s, and the Cheney’s and the Cunningham’s, and the Cannon’s, and the McCain’s and the Thune’s and on and on and on. We’re looking more southern all the time! It appears that another ‘legend’ may very well be looking more factual; you know, “the west; where the men are men and the sheep are nervous”! I know! Let’s send these idiots back to their respective states so that they can get back to screwing their sheep than f**king the American People and our Constitution!
naschkatze @ 218
I beg to differ. I think Comey has been and would always be completely honest in response to questions even if the answer harmed interests of his political party, his friends or himself. He, like Fitz, is a law and order guy,a person of principle. Does the fact that he was not privy to Rove’s and Gonzalez’s manipulation of DOJ convince you that he was not trusted to play a role?
LS @ 195
I agree wholeheartedly! Iglesias, I suspect, had some true doubt that he would be heard, or that anything would be done — and HE would wind up in hot water (which he did anyway). I think he took the only step he could take to shed some light on what had happened. I want to think that I would have had the cojones to do the same thing….
LHP @ 223
In addition to that list of particulars about Comey’s departure, you can probably add fatigue from being the designated “father confessor” for others who were/are bothered by the political mess at DOJ. From his testimony, and especially his farewell, it sounds like he was the guy that others went to when they were having problems, when they were faced with instructions that bordered on misconduct, when they were looking for moral guidance in an immoral department.
While that speaks volumes for the trust others placed in him, it can also be very wearing. I’m not saying that’s the main reason he stepped down, but it certainly had to have been part of the picture.
TMB @ 245
His testimony that he felt sick to his stomach after Domenici hung up said it all…he wouldn’t have felt like that if he felt he could pick up the phone and call someone at DOJ and get it off his chest. He was between a rock and a hard place and he knew it.
looseheadprop @ 240
Does it pay well (enough for you)? Imagine LHP and emptywheel digging up the questions and putting them to unsuspecting witnesses in HJC, SJC, House Oversight, etc…
Peterr @ 245
Question for Rep Sanchez: Mr. Comey, were you asked for your resignation? By whom?
naschkatze @ 218
As a former soldier who depended on good technologies, I think our military-industrial complex (in my own biased view) is not 100% evil. This administration also hurt our defense (plame, non-proliferation), so from that angle, maybe he would.
Hotflash–that is a great question!
jinny @
156
I would object to that reading of Mormons as a group. But hte Cannon family is VERY big in UT, right up there with the Youngs running around. So he’s not just any Mormon, he’s part of the Mormon leadership that is very incestuous and–even according to some of them in candid moments–very corrupt.
Fern @ 204
I got this through a link in Marcy’s blog
naschkatze @ 218
People, duh-uh! Comey works for a corporation making oodles of money off the Iraq War, and he’s a Repubican. Do you seriously think he’s going to blow the lid on the Bush administration? John Dean, not.
I don’t get the impression that it matters if Jim’s a Republican or Democrat, I think he holds truth to be a much higher honor. Jim has been far more forthright than Al could ever hope of being. Maybe it’s because Jim has a much better memory? I don’t know.
LS @
165
Neither.
But since in his invetigation, Fitz ran into the “all the emails have been deleted story,” FBI had to get Karl’s Komputers to reconstruct them, so that they could then scan them for emails relevant to the Plame investigation. Now, I’m skeptical that the emails include anything current enough to relate directly to this issue (2003, versus 2006). But FBI should have all of Karl’s emails from 2002-2004 time period.
rwcole @
236
That’s what mr. emptywheel says. We were thinking about Galway (or Tuam, just outside, where his dad grew up). But Sligo is the right size for mr. emptywheel, I think.
Now, I have to pick an Irish party.
queeniesdaughter @
205
Is it possible that Lockheed-Martin (a Very Large Defense Contractor) was “induced” to offer Comey a Big Dollar job to ease him out of the DOJ ?
Sorry, but this was lame.
How do you “get the Genie back in the bottle”? You make people accountable, that’s how. Screw these Victorian badminton games. Damn the Parlimentary grab ass.
These are the same bastards empowered with, among other things, the ability to condemn people to death.
Time to cut the crap.
“… Steve Biskupic, people are questioning his prosecutions.”
While (the Vet) Roberts was appealing the decision through the VA channels and was set to appeal to the VA Appeals Court—the US Court of Appeals for Veteran’s Claims in Washington D.C.—empowered by federal statute to hear the case, the United States Department of Justice, in the office of the US Atty for the Eastern District of Wisconsin, Steven Biskupic, indicted Roberts in April 2005 on six counts of mail fraud.
A Disabled Vet who filed “fraud claims” against the VA was then prosecuted and imprisoned thanks to Biskupic:
….No investigative agent from the Treasury Department, Secret Service or FBI investigated the allegations of federal mail or wire fraud against Roberts.
http://malcontends.blogspot.co…..ts_02.html
This is a response to this comment: “People, duh-uh! Comey works for a corporation making oodles of money off the Iraq War, and he’s a Republican. Do you seriously think he’s going to blow the lid on the Bush administration? John Dean, not.” That’s off target and a guilt-by-association attack.
I have known Jim Comey for a long time. He and his wife have a large family with one child in college and another nearing college, true, and they did not disclose any other reasons why he resigned as Deputy Attorney General. For the first time in his life, he can provide comfortably for his family, now that he’s not on a federal pay scale. Just do not conclude that your paycheck source or political affiliation dictates whether you are loyal to the truth and whether you do the right thing.
He’s the real McCoy, an honest, careful, fair, and public-spirited human being. We should all try to be more like him.
GM @ 260
Comey should give up more than he’s giving or urge contacts forward. Goodling and Sampson were at the DOJ when he was. Surely they did not pull all these names out of a hat as soon as he left. He must have had at least some intimation of what was going on. Until we know who made the list, and whether or not the WH violated that Hatch act, we’re in a sore place as a country and many of us don’t have an ounce of trust for the politicized DoJ. It is not enough to sit around and praise the fired attorneys. I myself so nothing to respect in his testimony, except for his loyalty to his fired colleagues.
lhp at 241.
But where would we find a skilled trial lawyer who knew enough about the ins and outs of the case to ask the right questions?
Oh.
Wait, don’t tell me…
GM @
260
que the violins
emptywheel @
256
Sligo is definitely beautiful but so is Dunnegal with its town square (with 3 sides) and the wild hinterland for hillwalking etc., Ireland’s largest fishing port is close by. Galway has gotten to be incredibly expensive to live in and housing is through the roof there. Both Sligo and Galway have train service to Dublin for the day trip to the capital for retail therapy (as needed) as well as established national Theater groups. Galway is more the tourist attractor and has a buzz from that source as well as the attendant problems. Also consider the Dingle and West Cork areas of the southwest as well for incredible beauty.
For political parties, Ireland may have an answer for the 50 counties over, a plethora of parties, no one party populous enough to prevail without the considered agreement of one or more other parties, forstalling the ready chance that a hidden agenda could be put over on the public by any one party by its onlyself. The voting system is in itself a wonder to behold, and done on paper ballots for all to see.
Should you decide to go, you will find a wonderous place there. All the best……
OT: Is anyone going to watch the Republican debates tonight? At first, my reaction was “barf” but then I got to thinking it might be enjoyable to see what a sorry line-up the Publicans have and watch them go at each other.
Me @ 265
Oh, sorry, forgot I would have to endure Chris Matthews gushing about the Reagan Library. Perhaps I can tune after he’s done “jizzing in his lap,” to quote TRex.
Did Comey actually say “All that’s necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to be silent.”