

Well, well, well. Planeloads of Republican politicians have been earning zillions of frequent-flyer miles over the past few years doing unofficial shuttle diplomacy with Syria and Condi Rice did nothing, but it just took newly-elected Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's one little old bipartisan mission to pry Secretary Rice loose from her chair and onto a plane for Damascus.
Here's The Carpetbagger Report on the upcoming Rice trip:
As I recall, when the Speaker of the House chatted with Syrian officials last month, the White House, congressional Republicans, and far-right activists were apoplectic. CNN ran a news segment on Pelosi’s trip titled “Talking to Terrorists.”The ringleader of this spectacularly stupid smear was the Bush White House. Somehow I suspect Rove & Co. will be a little quieter now.
Just to be clear, I’m not criticizing Rice for possibly having discussions with Syria’s Foreign Minister; I’m just stunned by the hypocrisy of it all.
Literally just one month ago, the Bush administration said U.S. officials should not have contact with the Syrian government, accusing the Syrians of meddling in Lebanon, supporting terrorism, and being unhelpful on Iraq. White House spokesperson Dana Perino said it sends the wrong “message” for members of Congress to discuss anything with Syrian officials.
For a lot of conservatives, that’s all they needed to hear. Indeed, far-right blogs pounced — one said this is proof that “Democrats seem to be setting up a separate government with its own suicidally blind idea of who’s a terrorist and who isn’t (basically, nobody is).” Another insisted that Pelosi’s decision to visit with Syrians is “repulsive” and questioned her loyalty to the U.S. Another still asked, “Can we question [Democrats’] patriotism now?” Yet another concluded that Pelosi’s talks “teeter on the edge of treason.”
Dick Cheney called Pelosi’s discussions “bad behavior.” The president personally criticized talks with Syria, saying discussions have been “counterproductive” and concluding that they send “mixed signals” to the Middle East. For two weeks, Fox News talked about almost nothing else.
And now, lo and behold, Bush’s Secretary of State seems to believe talking with high-ranking Syrian officials may not be such a bad idea after all. Will CNN run features about Rice “talking to terrorists”? Somehow, I doubt it.
Not much more to add to this, other than that Rice's sudden decision to visit Damascus, hard on the heels of the Pelosi trip, shows that Nancy Pelosi's bi-partisan delegation to Syria has had, as those who know what's going on have said, a positive effect.
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Someone’s gotta be the adult here… might as well be a grandma!
I love Pelosi!!
I remain strongly supportive of our Speaker.
Jacqrat @ 1
Yupper!
PW - Could impending subpoenas and threats of subpoenas have provided her with additional motivation to travel to Damascus?
By the way:
I really wasn’t looking for the nastiest photo of Madam Secretary, nor the most flattering one of Madam Speaker. I was just looking for pics that weren’t too big for our dial-up users. (Believe me, there was an even nastier one of Rice that I decided against using. And it wasn’t Photoshopped, either.)
ugh. The hypocrisy. It hurts the brain.
The part that hurts more is that there’ll be no apologies, no balance. None of these people who screamed about Pelosi’s trip will now say “huh, I was mistaken.” I mean I’d even take the bozo prize and hope that this would further alienate Bush (”why is he sending Condi to Damascus? He doesn’t represent us”), but that certainly won’t happen either.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 5
Heh! Could be. For various reasons.
On the contrary, Rice needs to go over there ASAP to undo the damage done by our treasonous Speaker who obviously hates America and children and kittens.
They sell shoes in Damascus, right?
Why does Rice support the terrorists?
I hear the sandal shopping in Damascus is Faaaabulous this time of year.
OMG!
I opened the page and saw that picture of Condi and started laughing my head off!
Still snickering…
I guess I’ll go read the post now.
HaHAhAhA
Thanks for the laugh.
Phoenix Woman @ 6
But I do love this pic of Condi. What a scowl she’s got on!
That TRAITOR! “Talking To Terrorists”!
Backstabbing the Israelis! And think of how this will affect our troops!
And I heard that she wants to talk to the IRANIANS, as well! But they turned her down, for the time being!
Quicksand @ 9
Fixed.
Phoenix Woman @
6
most pix of Rice are nasty. Maybe she’s just a nasty person. I saw her on the TV coverage of Gerald Ford’s funeral, sitting next to Chelsea Clinton, and she even looked nasty then.
EPU
Bob Joseph left Condi’s shop in January ‘07:
In congressional testimony, intelligence officials connected Joseph to the language, saying that he had repeatedly pressed the CIA to back the inclusion in Bush’s speech of a statement about Iraq’s attempts to buy uranium from Niger. Joseph later argued that he did not recall the CIA raising concerns about the credibility of the information to be included in the speech (see James Risen and David Singer, “After the War: CIA Uproar; New Details Emerge on Uranium Claim and Bush’s Speech,” New York Times, July 18, 2003; and Julian Borger, “Democrats Step up Pressure on Uranium Claims,” Guardian, July 14, 2003).”
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1235
Quicksand @ 9
Fixed.
Rove: “Ahhhhh! The aroma of Damascus Leather stilettos! Condi, please buy a pair when you are over there so I can caress them.”
George: “Me first, Karl!”
Phoenix Woman @
8
fleeing the jurisdiction, I tell ya.
It’s soooo weird. The relationship between the President and his Secretary of State.
Of course, her friends and her stepmother Clara Rice offered a simpler explanation for why she stayed: “she just can’t say no to that man.”
It’s as if Nancy walked into the saloon and said to Condi, “Dance!”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
Rice never talks with her mouth full. (Drumroll)
I think basically the White House doesn’t give a crap what Rice does to fill the lonely emptiness of her days. They are deeply afflicted with end-stage Nixonian policy necrosis. Minor show-ponies at the fringes of the administration can do what they like, as long as it doesn’t interfere with the dead-ender core stacking sand-bags around the Decider Bunker.
Eureka Springs @ 12
I’m sorry ES, the thought of KindaSleazy’s gnarly toes….Eeeeeewwwwww. (actual photo) *wink
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
you mean her
husb?Quicksand @ 9
And is a lesbian ‘cuz she’s from (wait for it) Faaaaag City, too!
cleter @ 24
that’s one scary image you paint, cleter
Had to Spotlight this one. A Classic.
LoudounLib @ 14
“Earth President Pelosi smiled broadly, while the Klingon Ambassador fumed silently and plotted revenge on the humans…”
cleter @ 24
Necrosis?! What are you talking about?! Army Group Steiner will save us, unbeliever!!!
Rice is totally devoid of principle. Much like Tenet and Powell.
There are just too damn many jokes you could make about the ‘road to Damascus’ We’ll simply reference #416 from the Joe Miller Joke Book and leave it at that.
Phoenix Woman @ 31
Only if they bring some of those secret weapons from the Secret Weapons Factory. Buzz bombs. Death Rays. Propellerless Aircraft. That sort of thing.
Balrog @ 29
Thanks!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
which reminds me of a song from the musical, “Oklahoma!”
yes, ahem, the “relationship” may be why Laura flexes her claws and purrs over Condi’s lack of an, uh, “family support” system.
OT:
Is the Rep debate going to be on Regeans grave or something? Man they are trying to pump this thing up. Why didn’t they hold the democratic debate by the eternal flame in Arlington?
Yeah, I don’t think they are going to run a “Talk w/ Terror” when Condi goes out on her trips.
separated at birth…
How scandalicious would it be if Condi was involved in the escort service business. Many of the escorts were well educated and professional women.
Sunlight RULES! Government Oversight Continues With Halliburton, Cheney & Terrorists
Why are we shocked by the actions of a man who, when image googling the words miserable faiure, his picture comes up?
oddmommy @ 36
Say what you will about Nixon, at least you never had to worry about him and Kissinger “doin’ it.”
Actually, a year ago I was myself on the road to Damascus, in Yarmuk Jordan, near the border. There was a nice mosque pointed out to me given to the local indigent community by Saddam Hussein and named after him. You have to give the guy a little credit, this bit of charity and the way he died.
Thanks.
I just threw up in my mouth, twice.
cleter @ 35
Fool! You don’t know about the secret chambers we have hidden in the New Atlantis at the Earth’s Core, where we frolic on golden unicorns and eat Nutella straight out of the jar! We
und unsere Lieber Fhrerour Dear Leader will be safe, safe, SAFE from you forever! Mwahahahahaha!I think we take up a collection for the Congressional Seargent-at-Arms to travel to Syria so as to be waiting for Condi outside Bashar Assad’s door.
Two birds - one stone. No treasonous talk with a terrorist-state leader, and she’s busted on the subpoena-skip.
Hahahaha! That’s gotta be the comment of the day.
Phoenix Woman @
46
Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!
Although I applaud having a dialog with the Syrians (as well as with the Libyans, Iranians, North koreans, et al), the reality is, nothing will come of this. Little Boots does not understand the fine art of negotiating and how sometimes there has to be a little give rather than take take take. Just as his idea of compromise is to tell the House and Senate what to do, take it or leave it, I’m sure it’s the same with Kinda-Sleezy going to Damascus. A little flash and zero (zed?) substance.
Anyway…
ohhhkay…..another image for my Nightmare collection….
cleter @ 43
Aaaaaaahhhhhh! Brain hurt!
redX @ 38
Ray-guns library
redX @ 38
Great question for Brian Williams to ask the GOP PrezCandis on Thursday, though: “Do you support Rice’s trip despite Darth’s criticism of Nancy’s as bad behavior?”
Get them to waffle on BigTime! That’ll be the kiss of death with Teh Base.
At least Condi’s got her legacy secured:
Worst….Secretary….of….State….Ever.
TeddySanFran @ 54
Unfortunately, Tweety gets to ask the questions in his reach-around smirk.
Giving credit where credit is do, Condi has the most photogenic scowl of anyone in this Administration. She’s even got the Shooter beat.
Elliott @ 23
No kidding. And, after waiting what she thought was a suitable interval in the hopes that no one would notice, she did.
Condi is ducking for cover, nothing else. Can subpoenas be delivered from the Senate to Syria?
IIRC, Condi had that same scowl on her face during the SOTU as she leaned forward in her seat watching
her husbandthe preznint.As to Dr. Rice PhD. A mind can be a terrible thing to waste.
Condi got a big ole butt
I know I told you Id be true
But Condi got a big ole butt
So Im leavin you
Condi got a big ole butt
I know I told you Id be true
But Condi got a big ole butt
So Im leavin you
Yo Yo, LL Cool J
Does this help end the strike?
How DO they deliver subpoenas?
PW, STRIKE OUT starts @ 46.
dakine01 @ 50
“Little Boots”! I like that one
I can’t say that I’ve ever seen a picture of Rice where she looked even slightly pleasant. The contrast with the picture of Pelosi says … probably more about the GOoPers than they ever expected. I know which one I’d prefer meeting.
Bay State Librul @ 64
sneaky-like
VJB @ 44
This would make a good Jeopardy question: Which reckless, irrational, irresponsible, incompetent, and all around f****d up disaster of an American president succeeded in evoking sympathy for a brutal dictator?
Bay State Librul @
64
They’re typically attached to heat-seeking memos.
Lou Costello @ 41
Excellent!
By the way, it’s been known since frikkin’ FEBRUARY of frikkin 2001 than Cheney/Halliburton was, through a faked-up subsidiary, doing business in and with Iran — in direct violation of President Clinton’s Executive Order forbidding it.
If Gore had tried this shit when he was VP, it would have been all over the evening news. But Cheney did it — and this is probably the first time most of you have heard about it.
Bay State Librul @ 64
Courier Chihuahua’s
Frank Probst @ 70
That doesn’t work with these Repugs…lizards are cold blooded.
P J Evans @ 67
her cowled brow suggests menace or malice
Frank Probst @ 70
Well, the UK’s Ministry of Magic uses owls, while the US Department of Magic prefers bald eagles, particularly for overseas delivery.
mary2002 at kos: “comey and other….”
read & recommend
Actually Bay State Librul,
if it’s like the ones I have seen done, a guy walks up and asks if you are so and so.
You say yes, he sticks out his hand with a piece of paper in it and says ” You have been served”.
As to Condi’s and Georgies private moments, I think somebody is getting the leather treatment.
OT:
C Rangle (D- ny) on Tucker:
“You know you form these questions in the form a statement..”
and then continues to easily brush aside Tuckers petty agenda and core points.
Now Tucker is talking about “bribes” with the “pork:, also schooled rather easily by Rangle.
Phoenix Woman @ 71
I chose to think it was a way for the CIA to be in Iran covertly. I hope it was at least useful in that one way.
P J Evans @ 67
Yup. You can fool people when you’re young, but once you hit forty, your character inescapably shows up in your face and announces itself to the world.
Nancy looks her age, but she makes her age look good. Condi — well, the less said, the better.
Old Sow @ 76
OLD SOW!!! How are you?
She scowls like that because she never quite understands what people are saying. Condi is not altogether dumb, and appears a rocket scientist in the WH, but she knows Only the Cold War, with the rest beyond her. She is, after all one of the generation of whom in 1990 one asked — “What does Saddam know that no American under 45 knows?” The answer was “How to find Kuwait on a map!”
In my experience she will be out of luck in Damas for shoes —- the local leather is none so good. Now Beyrouth shops……. If she went there we should bever see her again.
TeddySanFran @
10
I don’t think she’s going to meet the Syrian FM in Damascus. I think Cairo is the venue. It is a meeting of ME FMs, IIRC. No doubt she’ll also be meeting in Tel Aviv with the Israeli FM, who is going to most likely be their interim PM by Friday.
OT - Bush redefines success in Iraq…
Oh, this little ditty was EPU’d from the last thread, but I had to rescue it:
Rick Renzi: Bush made me do it!
Sing! Sing like a canary, Ricky!
redX @
79
Oh Jeebus! Rangel against Tuckery is as big a mis-match as Michael Jorday playing against the local elementary school. Tuckery is WAY out of his league. Of course, he’s also idiot enough not to recognize the fact.
After the press conference, Israel Radio reported that Olmert’s strategic aide Tal Zilberstein had said that there is no choice but to fire Livni as early as Wednesday evening, following Livni’s call for Olmert to resign.
OT but on DC Madame:
Now that’s keeping a secret!
that’s too funny
twolf1 @ 85
Lovely!
Phoenix Woman @
81
I think there’s a Lincoln quote about a person being responsible for her own face after 40 …
PW @ 71
You or someone else clever pointed out a week or three ago that we should be worried ‘cos Halliburton had publicly announced it had completed its contract in Iran and withdrawn all its personnel. there was a momentary worry it presaged the Iran attack.
Link to Mary at kos.
dakine01 @ 87
Tucker Carlson should have known better than to go up against someone who saw combat in the meat grinder known as Korea. To paraphrase the title of his autobiography, he’s never had a bad day since. He can handle anything Bowtie Boy flings at him.
Oklahoma kiddo @
88
Wednesday’s over over there, and Livni’s still in place. I’ve got a hunch the phones between Condi’s people and various Israelis is far busier than between Condi and the people who she’s allegedly over there to confer with.
dakine
Anyway…
at first, i thought lil’ boots was condi…….i think she should be ‘little boots’ and bush should be ‘kinda-sleazy’
Do cable or sat. television providers like Comcast know what channel a particular viewer is tuned to?
Ed*ard Teller @
84
So this is the meeting where Bush said (in response to the press question, “What would SecRice have to say to the Iranian FM if she ran into him?”) that Condi would not be rude to the Iranian FM because Condi is not a rude person? That was on Jon Stewart last nite.
cleter @
31
heh heh…
dmac @ 96
at first, i thought lil’ boots was condi…….i think she should be ‘little boots’ and bush should be ‘kinda-sleazy’
IIRC, little boots is what the name Caligula translates as. FWIW.
Ed*ard Teller @ 84
LMAO. CR meets ASAP in ME with the FM of ISR who is soon to be PM. Her 10-20 is T-A at 0800 hours. Although, IANAL.
From the gasbag himself:
RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, did you hear about this poor guy, the CEO of British Petroleum? “Lord John Browne, an aggressive but mannerly British magnate who transformed BP into one of the most successful global companies, resigned abruptly Tuesday after losing a court battle with a London tabloid over disclosure of his sexual relationship with a younger man. In one of the most humiliating come-downs in British business life, Browne acknowledged offering an ‘untruthful account’ to a court about the circumstances under which he had met the man, a former companion…. At the height of his powers, Browne had been knighted in 1998 and Prime Minister Tony Blair made him a life peer in 2001, a token of the close relationship between the company and the prime minister.” Now, apparently this guy had a little tryst with another man and lied about it and it got reported and so forth. Folks, I’m going to tell you: I don’t think this can be true. I think enemies of Lord Brown have totally made this up. How in the world can this possibly be true? It couldn’t have happened! I mean, no one ever loses his job because of lying under oath in a civil case — especially about sex.
snip
I wonder if Tony Blair was also a client of the DC Madam.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Of course they do, now quit watching Tucker. *s*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 97
Cable certainly does — so I bet Karl Baby pushed Bush long ago to tell the NSA to get with it……
Phoenix Woman @ 90
Sounds like Kerry 2004
Haven’t seen this linked yet …
Monica dearest might be in legal trouble again… DOJ investigation. WaPo article.
It’s obvious to me that the Secretary of State and Bush are joined at the boot.
dakine01 @
100
When the earlier model was a kid, he played soldier constantly. His guards humored him, partly with that name, which the earlier model probably grew to loath as much as the present model loaths being called shrub.
maunga @ 104
That’s precisely what I was getting at. ;0)
maunga @ 92
It wasn’t me, but yeah.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 107
Hip boots are VERY kinky — especially on GW. The mind boggles.
cathy @ 101
707 - ding!