TRex!

lolo

zed

TRex!!

Hi Alicia

‘night TRex. *waves and yawns*

drooling. loves me some annie. thanks big guy

lolo @ 4

Hi Alicia

Hi lolo!

Lennox your ears!

Annie definitely rocks. Good choice, TRex.

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

TRex @ 11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Tell him he sucks.

Murray Waas!!

Annie Lennox was definitely an acquired taste for me as well, but I did eventually get it.

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Is anyone watching Colbert? He’s busting on Mr. Friedman Unit.

Good video choice, Trex!

I was so proud of Jane and firedoglake when I watched Hannity yakking as if he knew what the fuck he was talking about on that clip Jane ran this morning. We’re not just running over trash like Imus and Hannity. They’re making such a teeny thump as we drive on that normal potholes seem more worrisome.

Anybody see Dorgan’s Halliburton hearing on C-SPAN today? I caught a glimpse. Apparently, Cheney is making millions off of trading with the Iranians through an offshore subsidiary of Halliburton. Which consists of an empty room and automated PO box in the Cayman Islands.

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Have you told Helen that you’re trying to give away her husband?

So much for Sampson’s “Aggregator” Myth
by emptywheel
I love when Murray’s been quiet for a long time, because it means his next story will be a doozy. And this one doesn’t disappoint. The actual jist of the story–that Alberto Gonzales delegated all authority for hiring and firing of political appoints to Monica Goodling and Kyle Sampson–doesn’t surprise me. The delegation of authority, thereby providing top Bush allies like Cheney and Gonzales with plausible deniability even while allowing a program clearly bordering on (if not passing into) illegal territory, is something that has been going on for some time. There is a twist here–by delegating this authority, Gonzales also allowed the process to be taken over by the White House.

A senior Justice Department official, who did not know of Gonzales’s delegation of authority until contacted by National Journal, said that it posed a serious threat to the integrity of the criminal-justice system because it gave Sampson, Goodling, and the White House control over the hiring of senior officials in the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, which oversees all politically sensitive public corruption cases, at the same time that they held authority to hire and fire U.S. attorneys.

“If you are controlling who is going to be a U.S. attorney and who isn’t going to be,… firing them outside the traditional process… and the same people are deciding who are going to be their supervisors back in Washington… there is too much of a potential for mischief, for abuse,” the official said. [my emphasis]

I’m most fascinated by the way this is going to change the tenor of the USA scandal.

The lawyers for Goodling and Sampson are in a bit of panic mode. Goodling’s lawyer John Dowd is just spewing BS.

John Dowd, an attorney for Goodling, said in an interview that it was “absolutely untrue” that his client was ever delegated the authority outlined in the confidential March 1, 2006 order signed by the attorney general. “She had no authority,” Dowd said, “My God, she was an assistant to the chief of staff to the attorney general. She was an assistant to the assistant.”

Dowd’s probably thanking his lucky stars that Monica’s immunity deal hasn’t quite gone through, so she didn’t perjure herself about this stuff already.

Whereas Brad Berenson, the attorney now specializing in firewalls, got awfully silent.

An attorney for Sampson, Brad Berenson, said that his client was not available for comment for this story

Well, Firepups, I’m going to crawl off to bed with the kitties. I still have that monstrous pile of term papers awaiting me in the morning (incrementally smaller than yesterday, but still monumental). Night all!

Patrick 4/4, you are really on a roll tonight! Wanna talk about your mom with your friends?

Patrick 4/4 @ 14

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Comment for you downstairs Patrick.

Did someone say (hic) intoxicating??

Way ahead of ya, bro…

conniptionfit @ 19

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Have you told Helen that you’re trying to give away her husband?

The internets are about community. I have plans to become a walking talking social networking site.

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

I saw someone say it earlier(don’t remember who) but it bears repeating. We won the 2006 election just in the nick of time. If the R’s had swept, again, we would have been screwed for lunch.

TRex @
11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Annie has a few good things.

I could write a lot more, but honestly, I’m just not in the mood to beat my head against a wall, which is what discussing music with you amounts to.

I understand where your taste is coming from. Whatever, man.

Lennox, TRex, Coool!

Dr. Dick, all the best to you and yours.

Texas Betsy @ 23

Patrick 4/4 @ 14

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Comment for you downstairs Patrick.

Ha! I’ve got two of my own (15 and 8) that are impossible to wake up. What’s my secret? Volume volume volume!

DrDick @ 20

Well, Firepups, I’m going to crawl off to bed with the kitties. I still have that monstrous pile of term papers awaiting me in the morning (incrementally smaller than yesterday, but still monumental). Night all!

Nighty night Dr. Dick.

Helen @ 25

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

Tell us more. Age? Looks? Job? Qualities?

cue the the Swift Boating of the tanker truck driver. turns out he has rather checkered past, so who’s to say…

Loo Hoo @ 22

Patrick 4/4, you are really on a roll tonight! Wanna talk about your mom with your friends?

My mother was a saint.

Why does it take so long for the comments to refresh? I thought it was a prob below because we hit 400, but slow up here as well.

Hey, gang! I fought with my musicians tonight too. We sort of worked it out.

TBetsy, have you tried cleaning out your cache?

Texas Betsy -

just saw your good news. so glad you feel better.

yay!

Seems to be working fine on this end, TB.

kirk murphy @ 38

Texas Betsy -

just saw your good news. so glad you feel better.

yay!

Thanks.

—-

How do I clean cache on firefox for mac OS-X?

Texas Betsy @ 33

Helen @ 25

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

Tell us more. Age? Looks? Job? Qualities?

Um, I would, ‘cept he’s not really a Texas boy. He’s a NY boy.

Uh, sorry I can’t help with that-I’m a Windowsaur.

Texas Betsy @
41

How do I clean cache on firefox for mac OS-X?

woah, now – money laundering? :~)

Helen I was a jersey girl for many years. :) Only been in Texas the past 9.

Helen @
42

Texas Betsy @ 33

Helen @ 25

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

Tell us more. Age? Looks? Job? Qualities?

Um, I would, ‘cept he’s not really a Texas boy. He’s a NY boy.

Does that mean you’re keeping him?

In Firefox, go to Tools, Clear Private Data and make sure that only Cache is checked. hit Clear private Data Now.

Patrick 4/4 @ 46

In Firefox, go to Tools, Clear Private Data and make sure that only Cache is checked. hit Clear private Data Now.

Done. Thanks.

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

lolo, h/t for the info, Marcy rocks! I had caught the delegation memo earlier in a Wapo editorial, not sure who, but immediately thought of emptywheel!!! I figured she would elucidate on the potential wrinkle(s) it poses to Shrubco!!!

Ed*ard,
My trombone-playing son, who spent the first two years of college majoring in Astrophysics and then BioChem, (while playing in the UC WInd Ensemble) has decided to make a big change. He breezes through math and science, but he’s decided to switch his major to Music Education and teach at the middle school level. Wants to put instruments in kids’ hands and change their lives! Knows he won’t make the money he could in biotech, but man, am I happy for him!

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

I’m afraid I am going to need some photos of that before I can make an informed decision about whether I’m going to take him off Patrick’s hands.

punaise @ 34

cue the the Swift Boating of the tanker truck driver. turns out he has rather checkered past, so who’s to say…

Punaise – this cliniches it.

Who knows what else “they” had on them?

And why did Caltrans put the turn right where two critical overpasses cross?

The blogosphere had it frist:

Hi pups -

Just a quick question on the East Bay freeway roast…..

Has anyone commented on the sinister placement of the gasoline tanker at the intersection of two Interstate ramps……

and how the ramps collapsed at THE EXACT SPOT where the fire was….

a fire well below the melting point of steel insulated in concrete

(and no one talks about thermite….)

/s

/s

Suzanne @ 49

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

Ok, g’nite puppies. Time to go look at my own naked husband. And no, Patrick, I’m not finnished with him yet.
Jeez I love you guys!
Sweet Dreams Aunt Betsy.

commiptionfit@46
Yup; not really sure why Patrick 4/4 though he could steal him; for TRex no less. I just lost my mind for a sec @25.

Guitar_Playing_Bastard @ 28

TRex @
11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Annie has a few good things.

I could write a lot more, but honestly, I’m just not in the mood to beat my head against a wall, which is what discussing music with you amounts to.

I understand where your taste is coming from. Whatever, man.

Annie does a fantastic job on the Tribute to Joni Mitchell singing “Ladies of the Canyon.”

Helen @ 56

commiptionfit@46
Yup; not really sure why Patrick 4/4 though he could steal him; for TRex no less. I just lost my mind for a sec @25.

Sharing is caring…

conniptionfit @ 54

Ok, g’nite puppies. Time to go look at my own naked husband. And no, Patrick, I’m not finnished with him yet.
Jeez I love you guys!
Sweet Dreams Aunt Betsy.

Thank you! I am going to turn in as well. Night all!

Patrick 4/4 @ 57

Helen @ 56

commiptionfit@46
Yup; not really sure why Patrick 4/4 though he could steal him; for TRex no less. I just lost my mind for a sec @25.

Sharing is caring…

And here I am in bed with a laptop and a stuffed bear!

Patrick 4/4 @
54

Suzanne @ 49

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

comment dites-vous?

Pat@54, I swear you’re evil and malicious! Suzanne, you don’t take it personal, do ya????

Aunt Betsy-
Bet the bear doesn’t snore tho!

TRex @ 52

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

I’m afraid I am going to need some photos of that before I can make an informed decision about whether I’m going to take him off Patrick’s hands.

I am going to make a huge leap here and assume that Patrick’s hands have never been on him.

Shall I wake him up and ask him? Ask him about Patrick’s hands? Ask him if he would like to have a “relationship” with you TRex? I am sure he’ll be thrilled that we are talking about him like this.

kirk murphy – glad to see you’ve got that angle covered

:~)

Likewise, ‘lake creatures, to bed so shall I. I truly love hanging out with all of you, thank you, and the sooner I see you again the happier I shall be! Good nite all!

TRex @
11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Let him dare to even think he could get by trashing Annie for a nanosecound around this ole brat without feeling some serious heated smackdown.

conniptionfit @ 62

Aunt Betsy-
Bet the bear doesn’t snore tho!

Only during allergy season.

CT nope, not at all.

TB, bet that bear doesn’t hog the blankets either.

Patrick 4/4 @ 35

Loo Hoo @ 22

Patrick 4/4, you are really on a roll tonight! Wanna talk about your mom with your friends?

My mother was a saint.

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

punaise @ 61

Patrick 4/4 @
54

Suzanne @ 49

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

comment dites-vous?

Je parle, tu parle, vous parlez, nous parlons…

Loo Hoo @ 70

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

I think his mother was Rosemary Woods. or maybe Dita Beard.

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

comment dites-vous?

Je parle, tu parle, vous parlez, nous parlons…

zigtervention

Loo Hoo @ 70

Patrick 4/4 @ 35
Loo Hoo @ 22
Patrick 4/4, you are really on a roll tonight! Wanna talk about your mom with your friends?
My mother was a saint.

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

As my mother always said, “Scroll down”.

I swear the Lake rules, witty repartee 24/7!!! *g*!

punaise @ 65

kirk murphy – glad to see you’ve got that angle covered

:~)

thanks.

didn’t think I could, but someone dropped a blanket here….

punaise @ 73

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

comment dites-vous?

Je parle, tu parle, vous parlez, nous parlons…

zigtervention

Zig alors!

kirk murphy @
76

kirk murphy – glad to see you’ve got that angle covered

:~)

thanks.

didn’t think I could, but someone dropped a blanket here….

thermite be a problem with your theory, however

I’ve been dogging that tainted pet food story for weeks. People who don’t seem to get what a big deal it is should read today NYTimes or this FDA release

4/27/07, IMPORT ALERT #99-29, “DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF ALL VEGETABLE PROTEIN PRODUCTS FROM CHINA FOR ANIMAL OR HUMAN FOOD USE DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF MELAMINE AND/OR MELAMINE ANALOGS” (Link)

As of April 26, 2007, FDA had received over 17,000 consumer complaints relating to this outbreak, and those complaints included reports of approximately 1950 deaths of cats and 2200 deaths of dogs. The Agency is working with federal, state, and local governments, academia, and industry to assess the extent of the outbreak, better understand how melamine and melamine related compounds contributed to the pet deaths and illnesses, and to determine the underlying cause of the contamination.

Don’t like to pick on the Bush Administration or anything, but they love their self regulated industries and hate government agencies that they can’t get money out of. They used politics to ban Plan B and the top official left the FDA in 2005 because politics trumped science.

This crisis was the FDAs FEMA moment. I’m glad they finally took some bold action. We’ll see what China’s response is.
“Hey American if you want us to keep buying your debt, keep letting us sell you tainted pet food.”

What’s a few dead puppies amoungst global trading partners?

punaise @ 72

Loo Hoo @ 70

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

I think his mother was Rosemary Woods. or maybe Dita Beard.

Refresh everybody – i think there are 18 comments missing.

punaise @ 73

Consider this the Late Late Nite don’t quote comments that have comments comment, comprende?

Can I quote you on that?

comment dites-vous?

Je parle, tu parle, vous parlez, nous parlons…

zigtervention

Ziggy BitesTheDust

(YouTube link)

mutzali @ 51

Ed*ard,
My trombone-playing son, who spent the first two years of college majoring in Astrophysics and then BioChem, (while playing in the UC WInd Ensemble) has decided to make a big change. He breezes through math and science, but he’s decided to switch his major to Music Education and teach at the middle school level. Wants to put instruments in kids’ hands and change their lives! Knows he won’t make the money he could in biotech, but man, am I happy for him!

Warms my heart, mutzali! I took a big cut in pay when I dropped my previous career in public safety to go back to music in 1992-93. But I only regret it when I’m paying bills. Just started working with another young musician this week who is about to find out what hard work is.

Patrick 4/4 @ 80

I think his mother was Rosemary Woods. or maybe Dita Beard.

Refresh everybody – i think there are 18 comments missing.

“that’s quite a stretch”

I think his mother was Rosemary Woods. or maybe Dita Beard.

Refresh everybody – i think there are 18 comments missing.

“that’s quite a stretch”

Like Condi, she just couldn’t say no to her man.

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01…..urton.html

The Leopold story on Iran:

http://www.marketwatch.com/New…..inder&
siteid=mp;guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored

Spocko@79, any wonder where all that recalled pet food went? How about to slop all the hogs that is slaughtered for human consumption! The melamine doesn’t just go Poof!!!! Chilling thought!!!! Ribs anyone???

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

Patrick saw his mother naked with cox?

[Patrick’s future analyst will have a new boat a lot of work to do…]

TRex @ 10

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

I do dig Delbert and southern soul, but I must say your taste in music is divine.

Amy!!!!

lolo no esta primero.Joe Klein’s conscience @
85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

That’s my take on it. Pissed me off when he kept saying we don’t torture last night.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

Caught that earlier. Johnson didn’t seem to think Tenet was doing this for any reason other than to sell books. As far as I am concerned Tenet should have resigned and told what he knew years ago.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

Prefer watching near sober Christopher Hitchens and Jon Stewart doing a book chat at the moment. ;~)

Last thing and then I really am going to log off:

Muslim Women Regain Thier Virginity in Clinics.
Published April 30, 2007 in Health, Religion, Human Interest, Government/Society, Military and Foreign and Newz.

From LA Times:

By Alexandra Steigrad

PARIS (Reuters) — Sitting in a cafe near the Champs Elysees, the 26-year-old French-born woman of Algerian descent looks like any other Parisian. But two months ago, she did something none of her friends have done.

She had her hymen re-sewn, technically making her a virgin again.

“I’m glad I had it done,” said the woman, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity. “I wanted to reconstruct part of my life, to reconstruct myself so that I could feel better about myself.”
This 30-minute outpatient procedure, called “hymenoplasty” and costing between 1,500 and 3,000 euros ($2,000-$4,000), is increasingly popular among young women of North African descent in France.

No exact figures exist to say how many such operations are done, but the woman’s surgeon says he gets three to five queries and performs one to three hymenoplasties each week. Demand has been rising for the past three or four years.

Doctor Marc Abecassis, whose office is near the chic Champs Elysees, sees the rise in religion among France’s five million Muslims fuelling this trend. His patients are between 18 and 45 years old, Muslim, born both in France and in North Africa. -MORE-

punaise @ 83

Refresh everybody – i think there are 18 comments missing.

“that’s quite a stretch”

One of my most fond memories is standing in a checkout line at a Safeway in Seattle, looking at a Time or Newsweek cover that had a cover photo of Rosemary Woods showing how she’d done it. It was a true pre-ROFL ROFL moment. My ex-wife laughed even harder.

Caught that earlier. Johnson didn’t seem to think Tenet was doing this for any reason other than to sell books. As far as I am concerned Tenet should have resigned and told what he knew years ago.

Certainly before the 2004 elections.

Texas Betsy @ 93

Last thing and then I really am going to log off:

Muslim Women Regain Thier Virginity in Clinics.
Published April 30, 2007 in Health, Religion, Human Interest, Government/Society, Military and Foreign and Newz.

From LA Times:

By Alexandra Steigrad

PARIS (Reuters) — Sitting in a cafe near the Champs Elysees, the 26-year-old French-born woman of Algerian descent looks like any other Parisian. But two months ago, she did something none of her friends have done.

She had her hymen re-sewn, technically making her a virgin again.

[snip]

No exact figures exist to say how many such operations are done, but the woman’s surgeon says he gets three to five queries and performs one to three hymenoplasties each week. Demand has been rising for the past three or four years.

Elastic demand?

kirk murphy @ 88

Your mother is Tricia Nixon? And you’ve seen her neked? Patrick, lie down, hon.

Patrick saw his mother naked with cox?

[Patrick’s future analyst will have a new boat a lot of work to do…]

Not all Cox are created equal..

Joe Klein’s conscience @
85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

Well, more or less. Looks like at least a three-way dog fight coming up.

Bob in HI

Texas Betsy @ 40

How do I clean cache on firefox for mac OS-X?

Since you’re still up, Betsy – go to Preferences, then Advanced, then the Network tab – you’ll see the cache and a button that says ‘clear now’…I use the same – FF on Mac

ET@94, are the missing comments cohabitating alongside the 5 Million missing E-mails???

kirk murphy (#53):

George Soros did it ………

CTuttle @ 99

ET@94, are the missing comments cohabitating alongside the 5 Million missing E-mails???

There’s a black hole that sucks up any e-mail in its path…

portia-in-time @
86

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05…..urton.html

The Leopold story on Iran:

http://www.marketwatch.com/New…..inder&
siteid=mktw&guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored

I’m a Leopold fan. People who disregard him are only cheating themselves.

Bob in HI

Texas Betsy @ 68

conniptionfit @ 62

Aunt Betsy-
Bet the bear doesn’t snore tho!

Only during allergy season.

This might seem funny, but for anyone here that is, or sleeps with a “snorer,” I highly recommend this program:

http://www.ijustwanttosleep.com

It’s all about muscle memory and tongue placement (get yer mind outta the gutter!), and is just simply exercises for your tongue that will stop snoring in 94% of the people that follow it through. Nothing medical about it. I wonder how many marriages it could save.

I have no connection to this program at all. Just a very satisfied customer.

Alicia @ 99

Texas Betsy @ 40

How do I clean cache on firefox for mac OS-X?

Since you’re still up, Betsy – go to Preferences, then Advanced, then the Network tab – you’ll see the cache and a button that says ‘clear now’…I use the same – FF on Mac

Already did it using TOOLS but thanks.

OK, for real – good night all. Patrick and TRex, I’ll let MrHelen know that you were asking after him.

Bob Schacht @ 103

portia-in-time @
86

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

nytimes

The Leopold story on Iran:

siteid=mktw&guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored”>marketwatch

I’m a Leopold fan. People who disregard him are only cheating themselves.

Bob in HI

Ding!

Thanks for the link, TB. Mailed it to my eldest who is engaged to a snorer.

TRex @ 95

Caught that earlier. Johnson didn’t seem to think Tenet was doing this for any reason other than to sell books. As far as I am concerned Tenet should have resigned and told what he knew years ago.

Certainly before the 2004 elections.

Before Shock and Awe.

CTuttle @ 87

The melamine doesn’t just go Poof!!!!

No, but Melamine Whoregan does go Woof!!!

tbsa @
91

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

Caught that earlier. Johnson didn’t seem to think Tenet was doing this for any reason other than to sell books. As far as I am concerned Tenet should have resigned and told what he knew years ago.

I think Tenet took a while because he wasn’t sure who to blame in his book. With the info he had, he had a number of ways he could go. Obviously, he decided not to blame Bush, and to blame Cheney. That’s OK by me. The more dirt we can get on Cheney, the better.

Bob in HI

portia-in-time @ 86

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05…..urton.html

The Leopold story on Iran:

http://www.marketwatch.com/New…..inder&
siteid=mktw&guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored

I think the objection to Leopold is the Rove indictment that wasn’t. It didn’t pan out and Leopold didn’t admit a mistake or that he got hosed – and being hosed didn’t burn his bogus anonymous source. It rankled quite a few people who are concerned (read FDL) with accuracy, especially on the Plame story.

There’s some healthy skepticism of Leopold as a reuslt.

Helen @
64

TRex @ 52

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

I’m afraid I am going to need some photos of that before I can make an informed decision about whether I’m going to take him off Patrick’s hands.

I am going to make a huge leap here and assume that Patrick’s hands have never been on him.

Shall I wake him up and ask him? Ask him about Patrick’s hands? Ask him if he would like to have a “relationship” with you TRex? I am sure he’ll be thrilled that we are talking about him like this.

What would Andy Warhol say ….?

Helen @ 106

OK, for real – good night all. Patrick and TRex, I’ll let MrHelen know that you were asking after him.

Sleep well you and yours…

punaise @ 78

thermite be a problem with your theory, however

Who am I to argue with Indymedia and the 510 Truth Movement?

G’nite pups – time to drop my foil and head off to bed….

Sweet dreams.

fahrender @ 113

Helen @
64

TRex @ 52

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

I’m afraid I am going to need some photos of that before I can make an informed decision about whether I’m going to take him off Patrick’s hands.

I am going to make a huge leap here and assume that Patrick’s hands have never been on him.

Shall I wake him up and ask him? Ask him about Patrick’s hands? Ask him if he would like to have a “relationship” with you TRex? I am sure he’ll be thrilled that we are talking about him like this.

What would Andy Warhol say ….?

If he were here on the lake he’d probably say woo hoo!

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

How about an Uno de Mayo truth movement? What a pathetic person we’ve been saddled with for president.

I hate this goddam fucking war!

night, pups…

Bonkers@110, What a B*t*ch!!! Along the lines of Maladroit Malkin!!!

poor baby, trex, is there a storm coming?

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

Can you shorten the legs? On the chair, I mean. I’m only 46 and I’m keeping the wine on the lower shelves.

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

would that Louis le chat could share some of his youthful spryness…

Ed*ard Teller @ 119

How about an Uno de Mayo truth movement? What a pathetic person we’ve been saddled with for president.

I hate this goddam fucking war!

night, pups…

Sleep well ET!

jeezus, now we gotta talk about placement of the tongue and muscle memory?

P4/4 in fine, mordant form this evening

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

That’s old! We had a black Siamese live that long. Rubanks. Named after the music publishing company. Fortunately, she went real fast and painlessly – as far as we could tell – just before she turned 20.

Poor old bear.

newspaperbrat @
67

TRex @
11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Let him dare to even think he could get by trashing Annie for a nanosecound around this ole brat without feeling some serious heated smackdown.

Eclectic is good.
Annie Lennox in Central Park is a great double CD. the second disc is a studio gig. Paul Simon does backup on “You Calmed Me Down” (which he wrote). Me an’ Annie go back to vinyl, which i still have. I’m for an Annie Lennox tribute CD. George Thoroughgood could cover “Sweet Dreams Are Made of This”. Maybe GPB could get with that program …….

Patrick 4/4 @
112

portia-in-time @ 86

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

nytimes

The Leopold story on Iran:

siteid=mktw&guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored”>marketwatch

I think the objection to Leopold is the Rove indictment that wasn’t. It didn’t pan out and Leopold didn’t admit a mistake or that he got hosed – and being hosed didn’t burn his bogus anonymous source. It rankled quite a few people who are concerned (read FDL) with accuracy, especially on the Plame story.

There’s some healthy skepticism of Leopold as a reuslt.

We’ve been over this before. We don’t know the full story yet. The lynch mob is convinced that we have all the facts, but we don’t. I’m convinced that something unexpected happened at the last moment.

For example, consider this interesting theory. I don’t bring up Citizen Spook’s theory as proof, but as an indication of the kinds of legal trickery that can be involved. I’m convinced that Leopold hasn’t recanted because he thinks there’s a sense in which he was right, but that it wasn’t rolled out in the way he was expecting. And for some reason he’s not at liberty to reveal what happened.

Bob in HI

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

Getting old sucks, says this old warhorse, I still get a chuckle from the recent remix of ‘My Generation’!!!

Alright, gang. I’m off to bed. Nighters!

Everybody have a good night.

See you tomorrow.

Loo Hoo @ 125

jeezus, now we gotta talk about placement of the tongue and muscle memory?

Paging Mr. Gannon. Please report to the West Wing.

punaise @ 126

P4/4 in fine, mordant form this evening

Thank you sir. It’s a wonderful thing when the head cold clears up.

punaise @ 123

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

would that Louis le chat could share some of his youthful spryness…

TRex my friends cat is the same age and gets relief with a heating pad on low when she’s feeling lame that seems to happen after a busy and/or chilly day, FWIW for your dear ole bear.

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

I hate it when that happened. Same thing happened to the last cat I lived with. Whats the condition of his fur? Is he still grooming well? You don’t have a lot more time with this cat left. 2 years max, if you don’t euthanize.

Treasure the time.

Bob in HI

TRex @ 130

Alright, gang. I’m off to bed. Nighters!

Everybody have a good night.

See you tomorrow.

Nite, TRex! ;)

Bob Schacht @ 129

We’ve been over this before. We don’t know the full story yet. The lynch mob is convinced that we have all the facts, but we don’t. I’m convinced that something unexpected happened at the last moment.

For example, consider this interesting theory. I don’t bring up Citizen Spook’s theory as proof, but as an indication of the kinds of legal trickery that can be involved. I’m convinced that Leopold hasn’t recanted because he thinks there’s a sense in which he was right, but that it wasn’t rolled out in the way he was expecting. And for some reason he’s not at liberty to reveal what happened.

Bob in HI

This is my point about skepticism. There are some reporters whom you trust implicitly. Leopold has a cloud he needs to dispell.
I neither dismiss him out of hand nor take him at face value.

buenos gauchos, TRex

Patrick 4/4 @ 132

punaise @ 126

P4/4 in fine, mordant form this evening

Thank you sir. It’s a wonderful thing when the head cold clears up.

Are you sure you don’t have the residual vapors lingering?

CTuttle @ 138

Are you sure you don’t have the residual vapors lingering?

I’ll take what I can get.

P4/4, Oof, pick your poison! Why the 4/4? Unit Designation?

Patrick 4/4 @ 139

CTuttle @ 138

Are you sure you don’t have the residual vapors lingering?

I’ll take what I can get.

second-hand snark. the silent killer.

This is my point about skepticism. There are some reporters whom you trust implicitly. Leopold has a cloud he needs to dispell.
I neither dismiss him out of hand nor take him at face value.

ditto, p4/4

Evening all. Hey TRex. My old kitty has old hips too and the vet put her on Cosequin and she really improved. It’s like that chondroiton for us old cats. Hope you’re still there. Just caught up to you guys and now off to bed. Y’all killed me tonight.

Suzanne @ 141

This is my point about skepticism. There are some reporters whom you trust implicitly. Leopold has a cloud he needs to dispell.
I neither dismiss him out of hand nor take him at face value.

ditto, p4/4

…Grain of NACL…

Punaise, You’re Smokin!

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

OOOOhhh, bet he’s had a sweet life though, huh TRex?

CTuttle @ 130

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

Getting old sucks, says this old warhorse, I still get a chuckle from the recent remix of ‘My Generation’!!!

That was a hoot, Tuttle!

bluejeansntshirt @ 143

Evening all. Hey TRex. My old kitty has old hips too and the vet put her on Cosequin and she really improved. It’s like that chondroiton for us old cats. Hope you’re still there. Just caught up to you guys and now off to bed. Y’all killed me tonight.

Sweet dreams blue jeans and all you other extraordinary firepups for another memorable late late nite!

CTuttle @ 140

P4/4, Oof, pick your poison! Why the 4/4? Unit Designation?

When I first started commenting, people confused me for Trex’s brother – a drummer – so I added a time signature.

Msut go to bed now and keep my spouse company. Sleep well all.

Loo Hoo @ 146

CTuttle @ 130

TRex @ 118

Oh, gosh. My 19yr old kitteh is having real problems tonight getting up into his favorite chair. It looks like his hips are really bothering him. Poor old bear.

Getting old sucks, says this old warhorse, I still get a chuckle from the recent remix of ‘My Generation’!!!

That was a hoot, Tuttle!

I particularly liked the parting shot by the eldest briton!

Patrick 4/4 @ 149

Msut go to bed now and keep my spouse company. Sleep well all.

Tata, Pat!!!

punaise, I don’t know why you call TRex grouchy?

CTuttle – back in the day, with P4/4, montag and others, we’d have rollicking verbal jousts that occasionally “clicked” for some general Late Nite mirth.

:~)

i don’t take anyone at face value either. but i still think leopold deserves a second look. and the fact that rove seems to be all over the news again makes me wonder if something really did happen last year that we don’t know bout. maybe leopold knew about it and reported it and there’s a lot more to this.

Nite, Npb, ciao!

Wordplay has become the thread many a night. My vocabulary improved as a bonus to the tighter abs from all the laughing.

Patrick 4/4 @
137

Bob Schacht @ 129

We’ve been over this before. We don’t know the full story yet. The lynch mob is convinced that we have all the facts, but we don’t. I’m convinced that something unexpected happened at the last moment.

For example, consider this interesting theory. I don’t bring up Citizen Spook’s theory as proof, but as an indication of the kinds of legal trickery that can be involved. I’m convinced that Leopold hasn’t recanted because he thinks there’s a sense in which he was right, but that it wasn’t rolled out in the way he was expecting. And for some reason he’s not at liberty to reveal what happened.

Bob in HI

This is my point about skepticism. There are some reporters whom you trust implicitly. Leopold has a cloud he needs to dispell.
I neither dismiss him out of hand nor take him at face value.

“A cloud” — because of one story out of a hundred??? Geez, talk about skepticism. If you apply that level of skepticism to all sources, you’d have to say that there’s a cloud over FDL, too.

Bob in HI

Loo Hoo @ 153

punaise, I don’t know why you call TRex grouchy?

just a random riff on “buenas noches”, like “buenos nachos”, etc. a gaucho is an Argentinian cowboy, so, you know…

Yes, Tuttle. That was a delightful surprise! Bet that was shot in San Francisco.

I thought it was a rift on the way he walks with his head forward to offset that massive… err magnificant tail.

Ala Groucho Marx.

spocko @ 78

I’ve been dogging that tainted pet food story for weeks. People who don’t seem to get what a big deal it is should read today NYTimes or this FDA release

4/27/07, IMPORT ALERT #99-29, “DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF ALL VEGETABLE PROTEIN PRODUCTS FROM CHINA FOR ANIMAL OR HUMAN FOOD USE DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF MELAMINE AND/OR MELAMINE ANALOGS” (Link)

As of April 26, 2007, FDA had received over 17,000 consumer complaints relating to this outbreak, and those complaints included reports of approximately 1950 deaths of cats and 2200 deaths of dogs. The Agency is working with federal, state, and local governments, academia, and industry to assess the extent of the outbreak, better understand how melamine and melamine related compounds contributed to the pet deaths and illnesses, and to determine the underlying cause of the contamination.

Don’t like to pick on the Bush Administration or anything, but they love their self regulated industries and hate government agencies that they can’t get money out of. They used politics to ban Plan B and the top official left the FDA in 2005 because politics trumped science.

This crisis was the FDAs FEMA moment. I’m glad they finally took some bold action. We’ll see what China’s response is.
“Hey American if you want us to keep buying your debt, keep letting us sell you tainted pet food.”

What’s a few dead puppies amoungst global trading partners?

B*ot*rror*sm?

LooHoo it was filmed in England.

I don’t want to get on the defending leopold wagon but i will say that there are A LOT of his stories that he has written over the past five years that have panned out than haven’t. his stuff on prewar intel and Iraq and Halliburton and Iran was way ahead of its time.

After watching the Bill Moyers special last week I realize that Leopold is actually one of those people that sticks his neck out and digs which is what Moyers was saying that journalists don’t do.

anyway, that’s all I’ll say about that.

Suzanne @ 162

LooHoo it was filmed in England.

who is in the loo?

Suzanne @ 158

Wordplay has become the thread many a night. My vocabulary improved as a bonus to the tighter abs from all the laughing.

Dang, I missed the whole thing.

Suzanne @ 156

Wordplay has become the thread many a night. My vocabulary improved as a bonus to the tighter abs from all the laughing.

Aah Suzanne, I was old school, NYTimes Crossword in pen, my wife will attest, and plenty of Heinlein in my youth!!!

newspaperbrat @
92

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 85

Anyone watching Anderson Cooper right about 10 minutes ago? Larry Johnson just called Tenet a lying bastard. Said Tenet had blood on his hands too.

Prefer watching near sober Christopher Hitchens and Jon Stewart doing a book chat at the moment. ;~)

Hitchens was somewhat coherent and actually charming in the interview. He’s a really bright guy, it just gets lost in the bottle I guess.

a gaucho is an Argentinian cowboy, so, you know…

OK, this is eery (cue Twilight Zone music): name the musical connection between this and TRex’s aging cat.

Juan Carlos is an Argentinian person JC is named after?

TRex @
11

Guitar Playing Bastard should be along shortly to tell me that my taste in music sucks.

Annie Lennox is as good as Chryssie Hynd ever was.
Chryssie never did the jhazzzz, like Annie did.
I sure liked her a lot long ago.

But, their angst is QUITE related.

Git players with heroin and needles will DO that angst to ya if yer not a strong guhrl.

punaise @ 166

Suzanne @ 162

LooHoo it was filmed in England.

who is in the loo?

If I have to change my name again, buster, your name will be MUD.

Suzanne @ 169

Juan Carlos is an Argentinian person JC is named after?

Steely Dan
song: Hey Nineteen
album: Gaucho

(OK, that was really a reach. think I’ll call it an evening…..)

punaise, I’m bad at puzzles. Give me a minute, but like I said…

Loo Hoo @ 171

If I have to change my name again, buster, your name will be MUD.

*oopsie*

conniptionfit @
19

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Have you told Helen that you’re trying to give away her husband?

See, this is THE problem for so long now, with the free sex crowd, no one knows who’s doin who.

It causes angst amongst the tribe.

Course, if yer gettin YER’S, it likely don’t matter.

N that’s the way it is, and always has been.

Ack. Ear worm!

larue @ 177

conniptionfit @
19

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

Have you told Helen that you’re trying to give away her husband?

See, this is THE problem for so long now, with the free sex crowd, no one knows who’s doin who.

It causes angst amongst the tribe.

Course, if yer gettin YER’S, it likely don’t matter.

N that’s the way it is, and always has been.

Far as I know, people are joking around, sis.

Larue, ask that of Madame Palfrey’s clientele!!!

Guess I’ll go back and read Leopold.

Helen @
26

Patrick 4/4 @ 15

Trex – do you need a date? Give me a little more time with Helen’s hubby and he’s yours.

OK WAIT – I’m still here. He fell asleep again NAKED. You know what? – you can have him!!

Obvioiusly, I’m missing something sick and sordid . . . and have NO clue what Pat Rex and The T are tallking about . . . good lord, their mother is Helen? And her husband falls asleep nekkid? And now she’s giving him away???

What screwery is THIS???

Dude gets sold out for sleeping au natureal?

I’d BEST have a serious talk with MY honey about these processes and procedures. NO WAY she’s sellin me out like that.

I want Katy Ross, at MINIMUM!!!

Dang, are there pictures?

bonkers @ 11:15 pm: Ziggy BitesTheDust

Dude! I totally wore that 8-track OUT.

Hmmm, looks like I missed RonD …
prostratedragon from last thread@
446

RonD @
260

P’dragon, one of the worst things to me about the whole thing is perception…I started t write out a post about the nexus of Gladio&Condor&Lemnitzer and friends in the US, and I stopped…thinking, if I write this, people will think I’m some tinfoil-hat crazoid. When people are afraid to speak the truth-but credibility is important.

Aha, you see the problem!8} (I ducked out a while to let some weather pass through without frying my little ‘puter.) I try to think of it simply as what the 16th century would have been like with jets and telecommunications. That helps me keep from getting too ga-ga.

… and ever’one. Bella ciao.

punaise @ 174

Suzanne @ 169

Juan Carlos is an Argentinian person JC is named after?

Steely Dan
song: Hey Nineteen
album: Gaucho

(OK, that was really a reach. think I’ll call it an evening…..)

night nigt sweet punaise.

lolop☺loozed

Verrry interesting article over at Crime Blog about the DC Madam – including stuff from the WayBack machine.

Suzanne @ 186

Verrry interesting article over at Crime Blog about the DC Madam – including stuff from the WayBack machine.

Goody!

ok folks, that’s it. my brain is fried for the evening. g’nite all.

An abortion story unfolding in Ireland: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/1/5722/84893

Good morning, pups. In the NYT today guest columnist Dr. Atul Gawande writes on the power of negative thinking, and Nicholas Kristof re-asks W’s question “Is our children learning?”

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Coffee and tea are all ready, and the biscuits just came out of the oven. Help yourselves, and Happy May Day.

Good morning, firepups! A glorious sunny day here in western Maine. Still too cold to set out the tomatoes, even with the Walls-O-Water.

Mr. Ixnay and I have been married for 25 years as of today, so I’m hoping for all good news.

I never seem to have anything of substance to say, but my posting times are generally too early in the morning to crank up much outrage. That said, the Ireland abortion link above makes me incredibly afraid for the women of our country of child-bearing age: how long before the forced-birth crowd succeeds in making that the usual scenario here?

Happy anniversary, Ixnay! I hope you and Mr. Ixnay have a wonderful day, and lots more wonderful years together.

I’d send you some of our heat, if I could. It’s gotten warm enough here that my lettuce has started to bolt.

MiS – do you shade your lettuce?

Thank you for the kind wishes.

Ixnay, no shade for the poor things. I’ve got contructively no trees except on the east side of the house. The amount of sun is fine for the herbs, and the other veggies seem to do well (although even the tomatoes slow down in the worst of the summer heat), but the lettuces will just have to be re-started in September or October, and I’ll probably have them almost all winter long.

Hi ixnay, and Happy Anniversary!! This one comes with a silver lining.Many more.

Thank you, bluejeansntshirt!

Marion, up here we have longer days than you do, tho not usually as hot. I have been known to make lattice shade thingees for my lettuce.

Now if I can just catch that darned woodchuck! Don’t think he’d eat melamine (now there’s another source of outrage, especially for a vet: why on earth are we buying animal feed components from China?).

Good morning.

Happy 25th ixnay!

ixnay @
191

Good morning, firepups! A glorious sunny day here in western Maine. Still too cold to set out the tomatoes, even with the Walls-O-Water.

Mr. Ixnay and I have been married for 25 years as of today, so I’m hoping for all good news.

I never seem to have anything of substance to say, but my posting times are generally too early in the morning to crank up much outrage. That said, the Ireland abortion link above makes me incredibly afraid for the women of our country of child-bearing age: how long before the forced-birth crowd succeeds in making that the usual scenario here?

Good morning and congrats.

There are many many of us who are and will remain active in this issue to see that women get the care they need, even if we have to go to jail to do so. This is about a movement that always has room for more activists.

Report , just in time for Mission Accomplished Day, that the leader of al-Quaeda in Iraq has been killed.

Must be because they ran out of #3’s at al-Quaeda Central.

omg!
i just looked at my little myspace music page and under “Cool new people”
Joe Biden
Makes my day

Morning all! A new month. New revelations. I’ll get my cuppa and sit down and wait for more.

Bob Schacht @
103

portia-in-time @
86

to all the people here who dumped on Jason Leopold over and over about his so-called flawed stories on the plame case you should know that George Tenet’s book confirms all of Leopold’s reporting on prewar intelligence and all the stuff that went on behind the scenes.

and then there is this story in tomorrow’s NYT about Halliburton and Iran. Another story Leopold broke two years ago and won an award for. I think Leopold deserves a second look from the people who thre him under the bus

nytimes

The Leopold story on Iran:

siteid=mktw&guid={EE56F111-430E-449C-B95C-01F50D963103}&link
=&keyword=project censored”>marketwatch

I’m a Leopold fan. People who disregard him are only cheating themselves.

Bob in HI

I agree. Leopold stuck his neck out a bit on the Rove-indictment story and possibly got caught in a Heisenberg effect where his very observation changed affected the outcome. But let’s keep that in perspective.

New thread, y’all, from our own Scarecrow.

Bush’s Dwindling Options In Iraq

Absolutely intoxicating! Fires one up…