(Somehow, Blind Faith's "Can't Find My Way Home" just seemed so perfect for this. Great vintage video.)
For anyone who has spent time reading Machiavelli's masterpiece "The Prince", the Bush Administration's mistakes here should be readily apparent:
Since the Iraq war and the attendant plummeting of America’s image in the Muslim world, King Abdullah has been striving to set a more independent and less pro-American course, American and Arab officials said. And that has steered America’s relationship with its staunchest Arab ally into uncharted waters. Prince Bandar, they say, may no longer be able to serve as an unerring beacon of Saudi intent.
“The problem is that Bandar has been pursuing a policy that was music to the ears of the Bush administration, but was not what King Abdullah had in mind at all,” said Martin S. Indyk, a former United States ambassador to Israel who is now head of the Brookings Institution’s Saban Center for Middle East Policy.
Of course it is ultimately the king — and not the prince — who makes the final call on policy. More than a dozen associates of Prince Bandar, including personal friends and Saudi officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that if his counsel has led to the recent misunderstandings, it is due to his longtime penchant for leaving room in his dispatches for friends to hear what they want to hear. That approach, they said, is catching up to the prince as new tensions emerge between the United States and Saudi Arabia….
The cause of the latest friction in the American-Saudi relationship began in 2003, before the invasion of Iraq. The Saudis agreed with the Bush view of Saddam Hussein as a threat, but voiced concern about post-invasion contingencies and the fate of the Sunni minority. When it became clear that the administration was committed to invading Iraq, Prince Bandar took a lead role in negotiations between the Bush administration and Saudi officials over securing bases and staging grounds.
But Saudi frustration has mounted over the past four years, as the situation in Iraq has deteriorated. King Abdullah was angry that the Bush administration ignored his advice against de-Baathification and the disbanding of the Iraqi military. He became more frustrated as America’s image in the Muslim world deteriorated, because Saudi Arabia is viewed as a close American ally.
Tensions between King Abdullah and top Bush officials escalated further when Mr. Bush announced a new energy initiative to reduce the nation’s dependence on foreign oil during his 2006 State of the Union address, and announced new initiatives in that direction this year.
Both American and Saudi officials say that King Abdullah clearly values — and uses — Prince Bandar’s close relationship with the White House. And that, associates said, will dictate what Prince Bandar can do.
I was watching The Sopranos with Mr. ReddHedd last night. I won't spoil the episode for folks who haven't watched their Tivo versions yet, but let's just say that Tony Soprano's leadership is beginning to show significant cracks this season: personal character weakness above and beyond the usual, hubris that leads him to make poor and reckless personal decisions that spill over into his business relationships, loyalty that runs to others only when they serve his purpose and the others have begun to notice this and, in some cases, resent it…the list is endless.
But it is the reactions of the weak, subservient underlings which have been the most fascinating to watch throughout the current season of the show — that realization that the boss is not all-powerful, that he has a number of Achilles' heels ripe for the exploitation, and that, most importantly, they all need to start thinking about taking care of themselves first…because the boss man may not have the balls to take care of them as he saves his own hide on the way out the door.
Fascinating stuff. And the parallels between that current storyline and the fear that I'm seeing with this from the GOP caucus, huddled together in a terrified little herd between a failing Republican presidency, their need to save their own sorry "yes man" asses, and a rabid constituency that they have trained to think only between the "must win Iraq" blinders. Except history isn't going to see things their way, and they know it — and the vast majority of the public tide has turned against them and their rabid base…and they know that, too. 2008 is not so far away, and the clock is ticking.
And we see this:
Activists on both sides of the impasse are mobilizing against compromise. Americans Against Escalation in Iraq, an antiwar umbrella group, has launched a television advertisement to rally pressure on Bush to sign the Democrats' bill.
Protesters plan to be in front of the White House today to unfurl a replica of the "Mission Accomplished" banner that served as a backdrop to Bush's speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln four years ago Tuesday declaring an end to major combat operations. Within 90 minutes of a veto, Americans Against Escalation will be holding news conferences in 24 states, and rallies are planned in hundreds of locations in the 36 hours after the expected veto — all to keep pressure on Congress to defy Bush's demands for war funding without policy strings attached.
The conservative Web site Townhall.com has launched a pressure campaign with petitions and call-in efforts to lawmakers and talk radio, encouraging policymakers to "stay the course on the war on terror."
"We don't believe that you can wage a war with poll-tested numbers," House Republican Conference Chairman Adam H. Putnam (R-Fla.) said yesterday on CNN's "Late Edition." "Everybody knows war is ugly. But the fact of the matter is that defeating al-Qaeda in Iraq and bringing stability to that country is important to the security of this country."
When you lead through threats and intimidation, as Rove's political shop has allowed George Bush to do throughout his presidency, you cannot show a sign of weakness or the entire facade that there has been any actual leadership crumbles. And, let's face facts, George Bush is no leader. The first real public chink in the armor was Katrina for most folks (earlier than that for a lot of us, but Katrina was really the eye opener). But it is the constant, abysmal failure to make any real progress whatsoever in Iraq that is dragging the Bush Administration and all its supporters slowly under the wake of the ship of state.
And the leadership of the GOP knows it.
But they have created their own loyal cadre of absolutists who zealously believe that this fight is all or nothing, that anything less than supreme and total victory in Iraq (whatever the hell that means these days, because from where I sit, the benchmarks change every day) is unacceptable. Except that the fantasy victory that the GOP created in its electoral shell game does not — and never did — exist. And the con is being exposed publicly, bit by bit, through thorough Congressional oversight hearings…and little by little people all over America are waking up and realizing they have been had. And they are angry at the very people who allowed this to happen in the first place.
Which takes us back to the rubber stamp Republican leadership: there is a whole lot of fear behind that forced lockstep these days. In the animal kingdom, you see that in vast herds of wildebeasts who can be incredibly strong and self-sufficient so long as their numbers stay together. At the moment, stray Republicans feel like they will get picked off by the loyalty enforcement squad (as played by the Norquist gang) and primaried if they get too far from the herd. But the question is whether the Rover supreme loyalty enforcement brigade will be able to continue to herd the entire Republican party toward the edge of the cliff and over without the herd realizing that they are being stampeded to their own demise.
And the question for all of them is, what if a lot of the Republicans in Congress turn at once? Toward accountability. Toward public fiduciary obligation. For a political party that is having difficulty raising money and even finding candidates who want to run under the GOP banner — what sort of hollow threats are these folks issuing? Sure, you can primary one or two or even a dozen candidates, but you sure as hell can't afford to primary 40 or 50 or more at once with a bankroll that has dried up and no candidates because people think you are a dishonest, disreputable, smarmy failure that has driven their beloved Republican party into a festering sewer ditch.
Democrats are in a very strong position here — it is time for them to call the GOP bluff. And it is time for Republicans to realize that they do, indeed, have a lot more choices than lockstep failure. Blind faith in a loser makes you a loser, too. Especially come election time as your rabid base even begins to slink away from you in disgust. George Bush and his administration got played by the Saudis, for obvious reasons — it was in their interest to play us, and we don't own them, no matter how much George Bush might like to delude himself otherwise. The Bush Administration cannot even conduct a basic diplomatic two-step without tripping over their own boots and falling flat on their faces while everyone around the dance floor laughs at them.
Think about that for a while…because blind faith needs to be earned, every single day, and this President has not earned it, not by a long shot.
UPDATE: Oh lordy. Bob Novak and I are pretty much on the same page this morning. Now I truly am frightened.
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Zed!
Good morning all!
Why would anyone give money to the corrupt RNC? To pay for their prostitution fund? To give money to the party sure to have no influence in the next congress or presidency?
Good post early bird !
Good morning! Christy, Tony’s gonna send Silvio to pick you up if you don’t spell his name right…
Great post Christy. Along the lines of emerging cracks, TruthOut has a great post of a Response to Tenet It looks like the ethical among the intelligence community are having none of his “I was used” crocodile tears.
Morning all. Twisted — as I’m still drinking my first cuppa coffee, you’ll have to help me on the spellcheck. I’m tired this morning…be gentle with me. *g*
I don’t have HBO, so I only watch the reruns of the Sopranos, but that’s an interesting observation. Isn’t this the last season for the show? There’s a big finish coming…
Paul Hackett coming up on Stephanie Miller at msnbc
Christy: I think the best part of the Soprano’s last night was that in the background, on the tv, was a screenshot of Bush holding hands with the Saudi. I loved that part.
Good Morning Christy and Firedogs,
well, someone had her wheaties this morning – The Prince ?!??! better get another cup :)
and right on for The Sopranos analogy – noticed it as well
I give Tenet’s interview on 60 Minutes,
a resounding F…
We are one Whistleblower short of an impeachment trial…
Here’s another Bush parallel. How about the fall of Enron? Hubris and incompetence followed by collapse followed by bankruptcy. The poor shareholders of our country.
Tick tock
Tick tock
Tick tock…….
Neo-Cons your time is up.
Tick tock Tick tock Tick tock.
Karl, your 100 yr majority will now be a minority.
ccmask at 10 — I saw that, too. *g*
morning all
I think pelosi has set the bar higher than 1 whisle-blower,and it looks like a whole band of whisles may be forming..
Neo-cons are now just bitter deluded old men like you find at that dive bar mixing milk with their whiskey telling drunken tales of what could have been if only “they” had listened.
Georgesimian @ 13
we are ALL shareholders…
Christy! Pups! Tony Snow is back spinning away. I bet he would have preferred a bit more time off, but couldn’t stand one more minute of Dana Perino. I think there is a big difference between the two. Dana believes the bilge that she spews, whereas Tony knows that he is spewing B.S. and does it much better than Dana does. I wonder which is worse?
Except history isn’t going to see things their way, and they know it — and the vast majority of the public tide has turned against them and their rabid base…and they know that, too.
The last to wake up and smell the coffee will be the Russerts and Broders: the courtier class.
g’ morning, all… coffee is brewing.. still o’dark thirty on the left coast, but I got up to see how Ms. Miller is doing on the msnbc tv… sounds like its going OK… very refreshing to see a woman on the tv… a smart one too…
Waxman’s next subpoena maybe for Barry Bonds..
He will take the FIFTH…
but, but. . .what about Sandy Berger ?!?!?
EPU’d
Morning all,
I’m outside of Philly in a hotel that does not get CSpan or Comedy Central. Damn.
But they ARE showing Stephanie Miller on MSNBC which is a great thing as I can’t stream Air America through the hotel internet for some unknown reason.
I already e-mailed Abrams on the good choice.
So I’m going to be really busy this week with the people in the church I will most likely be serving starting in August—after YKos, of course— and feel very out of the news loop. At least there is wireless in the hotel, but I can’t seem to be able to stream AAR. So Stephanie for 3 mornings is about all I can expect to get since I will be at meetings every night during KO.
Yes. The R’s are imploding. I really do wonder what kind of additional nasty damage they are going to intentionally do on their way out.
cbl @ 23
LOL
Where I live, Cheney-Bush still retain popularity though not for managing a war. They are still viewed as really great guys who are fighting a good fight, but the breaks aren’t with them. When the NeoCons are routed, and their cold hands pried loose from the levers of power, there will remain a statistically significant number of people who will see this crowd as tragically noble Quixote-like figures. I know that sounds utterly incredible, but it is true. A lot of them are still fervent religious-rightists (who’s motto is “All Right-All The Time”), but perhaps a greater proportion are those who are simply too embarrassed by the developments of the past 6 yrs to admit the failures. They have been made to look like fools by their leadership in Church and State, and they simply can’t stand the feeling of shame—so they react by becoming more fervent, more reactionary, more resentful and –there you have a new base for the Karl Rove’s of our not too distant future. Maybe that is the way the pendulum swing is powered in politics and in history. It would be nice if there were some way to bring these folks around before another generation of hate-filled “realists” like Cheney-Bush is old enough to vote.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 15
And Christy, the funny thing is that the Bush holding hands with a Saudi was very old news. I wonder why they didn’t have a screen shot of Pelosi in Syria? I never realized, as you point out, how political the Soprano’s is. Now you gave me something to think about all day.
believe Can’t Find My Way Home was the working title of Jane’s documentary – correct ?
Whew. What a head rush, watching MSNBC this morning. Finally some Must-See TV besides Olbermann…
Although I have to say I’m a bit torqued with Paul Hackett right now, bad mouthing all Dems with the same brush he’s painting Repugs. The only voices going against the war at its inception were on the left — and he seems to forget that.
RevDeb, do you have iTunes? It has radio stations as well as the music store, so you could stream Air America that way.
A bit OT, but i really wanted to welcome Tony back to work and suggest that he use the old, hoary (I don’t believe I said that) defense: “Boys will be boys.”
This ought to be fun.
enjoying Stephanie Miller this morning – though she did say that she’s already been told that Wed is her last day.
Sam Seder would be great (and an opportunity to see/hear our favorite Redd-headed ex-prosecutor on the teevee?)
Or how about the Young Turks?
Miller gets a 3 day tryout, like what’s his face did last week. I really hope the Young Turks get a chance. Seder would be great too.
IMO, the days of this administration “creating reality” are over. Realities in Iraq and in the oversight hearings are exposing this bunch to the sunlight.
As you point out, the republican leadership can not afford to show weakness, even while slitting their own political throats by remaining loyal to Bushco.
We’ll be watching to see how they try to pull THAT off.
Athens Ohio’s annual film festival is taking place. Saw the most amazing film about a homeless man “Jimmy” who had been in the Japanese internment camps. Most amazing story about healing and compassion that I have seen in a very long time. This documentary is in first place on my list. THE CATS OF MIRIKITANI
If you have the opportunity to see this film DON’T MISS IT
http://www.athensfest.org/feat…..s.php?id=4
Another must see film made by Ohio University grad students about the 2004 Ohio elections. The title is “How Ohio pulled it off” It should be “How Rove,Blackwell and Diebold pulled off the Election in Ohio”
Another must see.
http://www.athensfest.org/feat…..s.php?id=9
I’d love to see someone on the progressive end of things get the slot on MSNBC, but I am not holding my breath. I don’t know why, but I have a feeling they’ll go for someone a bit more on the wingnutty end of things to compete with the Glenn Beck crowd. (As if those are viewers for which you should be given gold stars for grabbing. Um…hello?!?)
Washington Journal discussing Iraq reconstruction.
If they’re losing Novak, they’re in deep s**t.
TheOtherWA @ 30
It’s not coming in over iTunes either—nor is any other radio station which is why I suspect it’s the hotel filters.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
Amy Goodman with Pat Buchanan. Interesting!
kathleen @ 40
Wouldn’t THAT be a daily party?
btw, I hope everyone enjoys the Blind Faith video at the top. Really great stuff. :)
Christy, thanks for this article. “Blind faith” is such an exact description, and is so rich in symbolism.
It’s frightening and infuriating that our country, founded on Enlightenment principles, is presently being governed by people who want us to wear blinders; to close our eyes to the truth.
dude at 5:42 AM, I share your concern. There are some very interesting and hopeful articles on that topic written by Sara Robinson and archived on the “Orcinus” site:
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/
Look for the two series entitled “Bridges and Tunnels” and “Cracks in the Wall”.
I included all of the above in my e mail to Abrams – hell, I even threw in Ed Schultz thinking Dan might feel ’safer’ with yet another middle aged white guy – anything doggies for a progressive voice on the box!
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OMG, I can’t believe they are back on the Natalee Holloway case!
How many soldiers killed this past weekend and they are obsessing on a dead blond from 2 years ago?
Time to turn off MSNBC.
2008 is not so far away, the clock is ticking, and Bush is dancing. That’s quite a war preznit the Republics have there.
actually, it is very nice to see a smart, funny woman on msnbc – I was surprised at how it felt like a great big relief.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
Yeah, THX for that. I’m all verklempt now. *wink
There should be a “Yes-man/woman” Hall of Shame listing the Congressfolks who most often voted with Bush on issues such as the war, executive privilege, Patriot Act, torture, spying, and so on. A list that should cross party lines. Shine the light of day on them. (Maybe there is a list like this already?)
The ones at the top of the list can be targeted for replacement the next time they come up for election. We have to take the long view, so even if that means 2012, we should not forget who they are.
There must be accountability, and losing their seat is a good start.
OT ~ The Fall of Saigon 4/29&30/1975: youtube *Coming soon to a qWagmire near you.
Where the money’s going, if it’s not going to Republicans? Some people are just sitting on it, waiting to see who comes up. But if I were running the Congresscritter purchasing department of any large establishment that uses the service, I would put my money on Hillary Clinton. Since there is no chance a Republican will get elected next time out, the best strategy is to go for the next best thing. That means tarring the left (us) again with a very fat and heavy brush. Be prepared. It’s coming, and Hillary will take help from any corner if she doesn’t have the thing locked up.
dude @ 26
Dude, there will always be a sizeable minority that will follow the Leader despite how corrupt, inept or warlike they may be. Hitler had about the same level of support when he took power as Bush does today. Those that follow the Republican through hell and high water have a psychological pathology that plays itself out in who they identify with. They need what they consider a strong father figure and simple black and white answers to complex questions. The most one can expect is to keep these psychologically damaged people on a short leash.
Rayne @ 29
just a small correction – there were people on the right against the war – for example, ron paul and the folks at antiwar.com, and republicans like scott ritter…
RevDeb @ 45 –
howdy RevDeb! i’m glad that at least you can comment here at FDL….
dreamcatcher @ 49
While I agree with your notion, the last part makes me feel all ooogy as if Karl just peeked into the room.
This is the part I don’t get from Novak’s column: “Hagel represents millions of Republicans who are repelled by the Democrats’ personal assault on President Bush but are deeply unhappy about his course in Iraq.”
What “personal assault”? It’s all about the complete lack of effective governing and leadership. His “course in Iraq” is not just a mistake, but horrible disaster that has taken its toll on human lives and led to the issues dreamcatcher says above. Iraq is not a separate problem from Bush; it represents and is his utter failure at leading the country.
These Bush people are unbelievable. They won’t resign when they have been totally publicly humiliated. What’s with Wolfowitz hanging on? They’ve all been proven liars, cheats and frauds and it makes no difference to them.
Knut Wicksell @ 51
Sounds like JoeLIE redux
selise @ 53
That’s two examples of people who should have left their party a long time ago.
Ron Paul is despised by the bulk of the Repugs, characterized as a “freaky libertarian-type”.
But in the press during the run-up to war, the Dems were the ones who were systematically labeled traitors for speaking out against the war, Howard Dean being a perfect example.
Which brings up a point that Moyers’ program didn’t make clear last week — the media was a party propaganda tool, used to beat back the opposition party (and ignore any “freaks in the majority party).
selise @ 54
moi aussi. I remember the hotel in Meriden where we couldn’t. It was really a bummer.
Dana @ 56
It’s projection, Dana; Novak’s trying to make it about Dems, when the truth about the war is that Novak personally was responsible for aiding and abetting its launch and execution, personally supporting George Bush and his sycophantic remora, Rove.
It is telling that the metaphors we use to tell the political story of the last few years are mob related. [Sonny, Fredo, Tony, consiglieres, etc………]
Christy Hardin Smith @ 42
Yeah Christy, that’s cool.
Didn’t realize Blind Faith was comprised of such righteous dudes.
It’s amazing what can be learned on your blog.
Thanks.
About the video, which must be from summer 1968– the amazing thing is that 3 of the four (Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood, and Ginger Baker) are still alive and performing at a high level. At the time, I would have given even money on any of them living through the 70s. The bassist Ric Grech, departed this orb in 1990.
am starting to suspect there is more than the usual clinical hubris and stubborness involved here – like maybe his vacating the position will reveal something illegal he doesn’t want revealed – there’s already plenty of anecdotal evidence out there wrt ‘irregularities’ :)
Gromit @ 64
this was exactly — EXACTLY! — my
thought-stream as i watched it. . .
weird. in a good way, but weird.
cbl @ 65
I suspect that that is what is behind Gonzales staying too. They fear that once the boss is gone, the underlings are more likely to talk.
Yeah, Rayne, I understand that but it’s infuriating for him to end the column about how “repelled” Republicans are at the Dems’ “personal assault” but just “deeply unhappy” about Bush’s “course” in Iraq. At the very least he should reverse “repelled” and “deeply unhappy.” But if the truth is Republicans are repelled not by the horror that is Iraq and the rest–but only by Dems who “personally assault” the president, those millions of Republicans are easily repelled by the wrong things and deserve to lose their seats in Congress.
I sure hope that the Liberal Wing of the Democratic Party keeps executing the current strategy — to wit, to keep sending back and back to Little Boots a bill with the requisite (and anathema to him) schedule for withdrawal, which he will duly veto. As 2008 draws ever closer, more and more formerly “staunch” Republicans who are up for reelection will realize that they are doomed unless they actually start Representing their Constituents (that’s US). Sooner rather than later, the Congress will pass such a Bill by a veto-proof majority and the war will wind down.
Our Dear Leader will be effectively hamstrung. On that happy day, the Dogs of Impeachment will be loosed upon the Land And All The Inhabitants Thereof. Mine eyes have dreamed the Glory of Renascent Democracy…
This morning at 10 est the Diane Rehm show will be focused on Congressional legilative options and strategies related to the war in Iraq. Give a call. 1800-433-8850. http://wamu.org/programs/dr/
I have made it through literally hundreds of times over the last 7 years, often changing my name(do not want to get screener in trouble for letting me through so often) but always from southeastern Ohio.
Start dialing a few minutes before 10 (7 west coast) keep pushing redial. Sometimes I will use two or three phones increasing possibility to get through. Dorie (the screener is incredible). Question should be clear and on topic. I generally try to get information on the show that they have not shared with the public and then ask my question. Give it a try. Diane has a large listening audience.
The phone callers from out west will get on first, Diane trying to increase listening audience out that way. 1-800-433-8850
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/
Also it is really worth continuing to contact the show about getting the FDL team on. Folks here in Athens have been successful at encouraging Diane to do particular shows.
Dana @ 56
Hagel will be the Republicans man…
cbl @ 65
Perhaps that should read “something else illegal” . . .
My sense in reading some of the european media is that the non-western folks at the World Bank are well and truly pissed at Wolfowitz for riding up on the horse Bush gave him, calling on everyone to clean up their act ’cause there’s a new sheriff in town, and then proceding to act like a little tin-horn dictator taking care of his own first on the side. There is a hunger for accountability on this board that makes Waxman look tame. Who knows — maybe Wolfowitz is doing more for instilling integrity in international finance by providing a negative example on his way out the door?
I reserve my blind faith for no human, but…
Have we discussed Dennis K on Bill Maher? (I could have missed it.)
But he was Great! I think. Funny and personable. Flirty with the audience. But, of course stuck to his guns regarding his philosophies and politics.
Jokingly asked Bill to run on his ticket, then when Maher said he believes in political assasinations, Dennis changes his joke and said okay, not running mate. I’ll put you in charge of the CIA!
Anyone else catch him?
I don’t have my CD collection with me, but the whole blind faith thing made me think of the guy that mentioned my name in concert once. In fact the song on the Live 1975-85 album in where he mentions me is pretty close to the song I am about to reference. To quote as closely as possible … “Blind faith in a country .. a person .. anyone .. can get you killed” … of course I am talking about Springsteen’s intro to “War”. If someone has the exact words, it would be appreciated if they post it. I think it fits this pretty well, even though the Republicans are only gonna get killed metaphorically.
Dana (68) — I understand your anger, it torques me, too, but remember that Novak has been a spinmeister for members of this administration going back to pre-GHWBush, when Rove used him to leak a whisper campaign.
The spin Novak is charged with conveying is exactly that which infuriates you. The spin is also designed to cover his own, equally culpable *ss. The neo-con element is coming to terms with reality bleeding through their manufactured bubble, and they are aware that it’s not a far walk from anger and fury on the left against Bush and his fascism, to anger and fury with the puppetmasters who used Bush for their ends. I expect we will continue to see stories that paint the same picture Novak painted, and that we’ll be painted as unhinged as we continue to press for more and greater oversight. They have no choice but to play this card as they are increasingly backed into a corner.
Sorry, OT: there is chatter about cutting pork from the Iraq Funding bill, and it’s possible we could bring pressure here. We could press to cut all pork, and send a pure war bill to pres to veto, but perhaps w/out pork it won’t get thru senate.
Does anybody think this is something important we should discuss and give guidance to our reps about?
cathy @ 67
Equally likely, in my view, is that Gonzalez is being retained beyond all credibility because he serves as Chucklenuts’s firewall. To dispense with Gonzo would leave the WH’s crew of Shooter, Puppet, and Turdblossom open to further attack. Where he is, Gonzo can help in fending off the grappling hooks, whereas any other AG who could be confirmed by the Senate would not be in a position to help. Therefore, Caligula continues to claim that Gonzalez is performing fantastically, however braindead that claim appears to be.
“Deliciouser and deliciouser,” said he Schadenfreudeliciously. :)
ifthethunderdontgetya @
20
We have a special punishment waiting for those fucktards, and they’re already getting a taste of it: Nobody buying their newspapers, only a few “watchdogs” eying their shows to laugh at them. They’re jokes to progressives, and, even better, we’re the Next Big Thing. They’ll be outside the loop looking in. Payback’s a bitch.
I still say we need to burn effigies of these monsters right in front of their offices (wouldn’t that pretty picture window for the Today show be ideal for a Matt Lauer effigy BBQ?). Hurl fake pearls at them wherever they go in public and yell, Clutch this, whiny-ass titty baby. And so forth. We’re not creative enough with our protesting anymore.
dude @
26
There isn’t. We have to shun them, and, if they do pipe up with some idiotic remark, smack them down (rhetorically speaking). Firmly. I’m sorry, but there’s no other way to deal with them.
Gromit @ 64
Can’t run the video at work (attractive nuisance), but Blind Faith only toured in summer of 69. One show in Hyde Park in London (late June), a few in Denmark and an American tour in July and August.
Corry
From the Financial Times in the UK:
Sounds like Wolfowitz wants to do the usual BushCo “I’m too busy to testify” followed by “let someone else testify for me” followed by “can we do it a year from next Thursday?” and the board is having none of it. Good for them.
And doesn’t that group of former executives sound like some of the USAs forced out by Gonzales?
yes there is – and I am having trouble finding the one that shows ‘voted with Bush __% of the time
in the meantime
from The Sunlight Foundation -
opencongress.org
and – with a focus on campaign/election financing
opensecrets
and finally, something useful from WaPo
congressional voting record database
goes back to 1991
Thanks, Rayne. I agree with you about the motivation and the tactics of the cornered rats. If the acts were not so egregiously wrong and often, criminal, it would not be so awful to read these columnists who defend them to whatever degree possible, and even when not possible!
Rayne @ 75
Novak should be in jail for going along with Plame’s outing.
Please do not by the Tenet book.
From Arianna:
He could have simply resigned and freed himself to “tell the truth.” Tenet acts as if resignation were not an option. But it was. And the passion and anger he displays now in the service of book sales could have been used then in the service of his country.
corry342 @ 79
In the Presence of the Lord
George Tenet. Finally a man I respect less than Donald Rumsfeld. Never thought this would be possible.
Hey All:
Novacula still couldn’t resist a dig at the Dems. From the last paragraph:
Hagel represents millions of Republicans who are repelled by the Democrats’ personal assault on President Bush but are deeply unhappy about his course in Iraq.
Hagel is in a very tough spot but he could be the guy who helps turn the wildebeast herd toward some semblence of respectability. The wacky 30%ers (the only ones who are repelled by the bright sunshine) are going to continue to drive the independents away unless that happens.
Just getting to the Lake.
More troubles looming for “the boy-king and his political minions” (a phrase I stole/borrowed from Christy):
If everybody deserving of it, in the Bush admonistration went to prison on one day, there would be an immediate surge in the federal penal over population problem. Might have to build a new ‘joint’ to accommodate them all. Now that would be our tax dollars working for us.
corry342 @ 79
I bow to the true expert (insert genuflection here). Video looks like a huge crowd of british hippies, so it may be Hyde Park.
S.O.S. from MA @
77
Equally likely, in my view, is that Gonzalez is being retained beyond all credibility because he serves as Chucklenuts’s firewall. To dispense with Gonzo would leave the WH’s crew of Shooter, Puppet, and Turdblossom open to further attack. Where he is, Gonzo can help in fending off the grappling hooks, whereas any other AG who could be confirmed by the Senate would not be in a position to help. Therefore, Caligula continues to claim that Gonzalez is performing fantastically, however braindead that claim appears to be.
“Deliciouser and deliciouser,” said he Schadenfreudeliciously. :)
This is exactly the reason why they are keeping Gonzo. Besides being the firewall, he’s also in charge of sitting on investigations, witholding evidence and reinterpretting the Constitution. Who could possibly do all that and then “not recall” doing any of it? There’s no one quite like AG.
selise @ 54
RevDeb @ 45
that’s exactly what i was remembering also… *g*
o/t
S.O.S. to the Audio Forensics courtesy phone . . .S.O.S.
(emphasis mine)
Akron Beacon Journal
Oklahoma kiddo @ 84
Oh yes! See Larry Johnson letter to Tenet
http://noquarter.typepad.com/m…..georg.html
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
They’re sprucing up Gitmo as we speak.
Christy “Oh lordy. Bob Novak and I are pretty much on the same page this morning. Now I truly am frightened.”
I knew four years ago that I was in trouble when Pat Buchanan started sounding like he was in the middle. That is how far to the reich (wrong) the pendulum had swung.
So interesting how common it has become for Hagel and most of our elected officials to refer to our need to access oil as “national interest”
“Hagel certainly is no peace-now zealot. “We’re not going to precipitously pull out,” he told me. “We have [national] interests in Iraq.”
Wonderful analysis in the post.
I begin to wonder if the Repubs have not only sealed their electoral doom but if the brand itself may fail.
Will they need to rebrand?
If hardly anyone wants to run as “slime,” will the slimy name have to change?
Maybe we can come up with some new names for them – complete with platform ideas – ethics and rule of law and corporate limits and taxing the rich to help the poor and respecting treaties, etc.
MSNBC is giving Stephanie Miller till Wednesday? Mike Smerconish was there all week last week!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
We could just use the one built to their own high standards: Gitmo. Don’t waterboard them, keep them up all night, or any of that. Just give them the cells they found to be humane holding facilities for high-value detainees.
And give them these cells for life.
g/morning firedogs, and g’morning keeper of the lake, she who keeps the pond christine
thanx for the post Christy…very educational
let me point to one thing to make sure nobody gets the wrong idea;
the buah administration can lay no claims to “Machiavellian machinations”
I don’t think anyone, even a bushite would think this guy is capable of Machiavellian machinations(except for possibly justice wanabee meyers)
(hehe, Machiavellian machinations…I like that, the two words are unrelated but seem like they are…, gonna use it often)
i’m listening to a very interesting (and thought provoking) lecture this morning:
thought other firepups might find this one of interest….
p.s. i love being able to “attend” so many public lectures via the toobz.
Biodun @ 88
I stole it from Christy too…I combine the two words to read “boyking”…quite demeaning in conversation I must say
cathy @ 67
and the replacement will find things.
I thought this job was for the Commander-in-Chief. From the NYTimes today:
My bold.
Well, CNN thinks it has died and gone to heaven………all porn, all morning. Panda porn……….DC porn.
The makeup people must be running their legs off just trying to keep up with mopping the drool off their chins. *g*
Fern @ 103
I’ve been saying this for a while;
they cannot admit incompetance, they cannot admit their ranks are inept
they must maintain in the face of all evidence that they are right and everyone else is wrong
right now they can still do some pretty important stealing and if their minions are replaced with people that went through some kind of review their stealing is over
they MUST hang onto gonzales so he can “certify” programs that nobody else on the planet would certift and they must hand on to wolfowitz so they aren’t forced to admit the man is a thief
Slip sliding away.
The sandcastles are washing out to sea. The power that the far right so desperately sought is washing through their fingers like so many grains glittering in the sun.
The much hated(by the Bolton set) EU is winning the war of monetary strength as the US dollars buckles.
Russia, pumped on massive oil revenues is ready to stand up to the US again…..tired of being second fiddle to the US…..
The US once had a distinct and abiding respect among many Arab nations of the middle east because it didn’t have the taint of colonial power like many of the Eurpoean nations…Now the US is seen occupying Iraq, Aghanistan and threatening Syria and Iran…also supporting proxy wars by Israel against Hamas and Lebanon and by Ethiopia against Somalia….We’ve also launched bombs into Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan at varous times in the past 7 years.
That the US was once seen as defending Muslims in the former Yugoslavia has been forgotten in a haze of video seen on Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya and a number of other Arab media.
The US is also seen as being so in the tank with Israel that we are not seen as a fair referee anymore…something that it took Bush 7 years to ruin….To add into the mess the Israeli’s are so inept that there is talk of a repeat war against Hezbollah in Lebanon for th summer and Hamas is seriously considering reviving the Intafada.
Add in the money we owe China and Japan…..
Add in the fact that North Korea still hasn’t stopped their nuclear program (hint–we don’t hear much about this because North Korea is thumbing our eye even after we agreed to give them 25 million in cash and also allowed them to sell weapons to Ethiopia against an arms embrago)…
Add in the loss of soft influence in most of South America and you have the picture….
A once respected nation that has since become a bully that no one likes anymore but that everyone still has to deal with……
So the other nations are forming power blocks like the Mercosur in South America and the Shanghai Cooperation Council with China and Russia…
Nothing like stacking the deck against yourself.
The more the GOP seeks the power, the faster it is slipping away.
Heckuva job.
-GSD
Ahh Blind Faith – thank you. Take me back – I remember buying the LP album for
Biodun @ 98
They should give Amy Goodman with Pat Buchanan a shot at the spot. This would be more than interesting.
Peterr @ 99
Have we learned nothing at all from their exercise in deprivation?
I say a few of us start launching a construction company approved for federal contracts; we’ll call it “Pal-iburton”, for now. Pal-iburton will build little palatial residences with plenty of amenities like spa services for the residents — but they’ll have to provide the services to each other after attending certification programs for the same. And the only news and entertainment content that will be piped in will be from Air America or al Jazheera, or overseas news outlets without any affiliation to Murdoch or Berlusconi.
And Pal-iburton’s mission will include training at-risk individuals in construction trades, providing on-site daycare — that ought to really punish the occupants, knowing they were taxed to help people.
cbl @ 44
How about Randi Rhodes?
Or, if they want to get away from streaming a radio program, Phil Donahue?
knut @ 51, here’s where the money is going (from HuffPost).
Clinton and Obama Raiding Donors Who Backed Bush
http://www.nysun.com/article/53420
Biodun @ 104
Commander-in-Chief duties tend to interfere with the Preznit’s bike rides so he prefers to delegate them. However, he reserves the right to play dress up as the need arises.
Dana @
56
More Novak dissembling. The Prince of Darkness & Dissembling is trying to position Hagel as acceptable to the reality based community without alienating him from the right-wing base.
Novak thinks that by attributing reasonable sounding foreign policy positions (albeit from a rubber stamp lemming) while pointing out how he is still loyal and unlike Democrats, that Hagel will maintain credibility among the GOP base.
slainte,
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Peterr @
80
And by the way, his “talk to my lawyer, not me”,approach might, just, be acceptable behaviour in the USA but will really piss off lots of people from lots of, not just non-Western , countries.
GSD @ 107
How many Presidential medals will Bush need to hand out to those who have done so much for their country? That could get expensive, really fast. Maybe Bush could just give himself one, and then accept it on behalf of the whole administration.
shorter Hadley – ‘President Cheney asked me to establish a means by which to bypass Secretary Gates’
Sally @ 112
Slip sliding away.
-GSD
Perris @106…. Wolfowitz needs to go. He should be tried for high crimes against humanity not the Prez of the World Bank. This warmonger profitteer was under suspicion long ago for spying for Israel. http://groups.google.fr/group/…..2bfe315e25
His appointment by Bush was like giving the world the finger …. again.
new thread from Christy
And please everyone exercise nested quote-control for the mods.
cbl @
65
I think they’re stalling, because Tony Blair won’t become available until next week, or thereabouts.
GSD @ 107
on this point I disagree gsd
I believe the entire intention was to break our economy
why else would they squander all our assets, all our surplus and then borrow more money then in the history of planet earth without any plan of revenue recovery?
no taxes, no growth programs, nothing
and them for them to actually stop reporting the m3 index so they could print so much paper it becomes as valuable as toilet tissue?
I am telling you this is deliberate, this is an a coup from within, they have deliberately weakened our military, deliberately weakened our economy, deliberately alienated the alies that might have once been happy to come to our aid
it’s been said this country can never be defeated, if we are overthown it will come from within
that day is near at hand and we must grab the reigns if we are to save our republic
we MUST get everyone on board with what is going on, we must get the real republicans to cast the fascists out of their party
the world can’t wait till 08 and America can’t wait either
this was their plan
someone tell me they don’t think this administration has the bin laden play book and is doing everything possible to hand him his defeat
every single decision has been made in direct oposition to the advice given, and each time the administration was informed they would be facilitating our enemies
I am telling you this is the plan
Christy hits another one out of the park, new thread.
Stepping Up To The Plate
kathleen @ 119
yup…part of the plan to destory our country from within
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
But think how it would reduce rush-hour traffic and air pollution!
Biodun @ 88
Now this would have possibly stirred the previous Republican controlled congress to investigate “COLLECTIVE B J’S”. Oh wait a minute they may be part of the collective.
This predictably excellent post by Christy covers a lot of important ground.
1. No more hand-holding or footsy under the table between the Prince of the East and the Prince of the West? All too predictably, this has not received enough attention in the msm.
2. Hell, yeah, AAEI, can’t wait to see you unfurl that banner! Whoooeee!!
3. Weighing in on the below, I think the comparison to a herd of animals is so apt. I look at these Publicans still spewing the same old rhetoric about surrender when it comes to this generous supplemental, simply because it asks that the potus to be held mildly accountable, for once, for his filthy war (dare we ask this of our Emperor? Swoon! Viney, fetch me my smellin’ salts!) I am simply floored that they can not see the political doom that awaits them in ‘08 if they don’t stop repeating this tattered mantra and start acting like we have a president and not a monarch. And I will enjoy watching them stampede over the cliff, tub of popcorn, extra salt, extra butter, by my side.
On the original post: problem is, you’re using your logic bone. Many of the Republicans are like the bankrupt gambler who thinks he just has to hold on until the next big payoff that will pay off debts from all the bad bets that preceded it. Every so often you’ll get someone who sees the problem early (Hagel), but statistically, someone invested in that game will stay with it, hoping for the big one.
Blind faith doesn’t have to be earned. Blind faith is. Though, with enough beating, it can be lost, but I don’t think it’ll happen in time for, say, unvetoing the Iraq funding bill.
Oh, and has anybody heard the latest from the Right, most notably Cheney, claiming that the rampant violence in Iraq is a good sign that “the surge” is working b/c the enemy is surging so they must be desperate?!!
President: Pretzel Challanged; Veep: Pretzel Logic Guru
Badwater @ 113: Commander-in-Chief duties tend to interfere with the Preznit’s bike rides so he prefers to delegate them. However, he reserves the right to play dress up as the need arises.
Yup! And Preznit Mission Accomplished Flightsuit also reserves the right to criticize others for “dancing in the end zone.”
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 74
Somebody wrote a song about Joe Klein? ;)
We need to convince them to send the next bill to Commander Codpiece with even stricter and more binding rules.
In a negotiation, you can cave after the first round, or you can get tough. It depends on weather you’re coming from a position of strength or weakness, weather the other person wants what he wants from you MORE than you want to give it to him. Let Codpeice flap in the wind, and see how quick he caves.
I love this blog and all that, but at the risk of sounding like a “concern troll” may I point out that The Sopranos is a work of fiction, and to indulge in comparing the doings and not-doings of the Bush Administration to a work of fiction–especially an ongoing, public-environment-influenced work of fiction–is to venture into our own little circular echo chamber.
To liken BushCo like to something in history, or to something in a published work of fiction, is one thing but to compare it to a TV show is solipcistic wish-fulfillment.
Yep…The Prince has been misinterpreted by the idotic ideologues. I have little more to say, as I read this excellent artical while listening to Blind Faith, one of my alltime favorites from the day.
Good thoughts good words good deeds
Rupescissa @
134
George Bush is a TV show, and he has his own echo chamber, otherwise known as The Mighty Wurlitzer. Fuckwad is a lot like Tony Soprano, not one whit smarter, just as treacherous but not as manly. I don’t know what Christy’s faults may be but solipsism is not one of them. You also need to do a spell check.
Sorry I am way late but this topic is one I’ve been waiting for! ” The Way to Govern Cities or Dominions That, Previous to being Occupied, Lived Under their Own Laws” “And Whomever becomes the ruler of a free city and does not destroy it can expect to be destroyed by it, for it can always find a motive for rebellion in the name of Liberty” Machiavelli ” The Prince” Chapter 5. Sure Most Republicans will say Iraq was never free and we have freed Iraq if nothing else. Or have we Liberty is freedom to do as we please, preferably under the law. With Liberty most of us CHOOSE to follow Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs
Physiolgical food shelter clothes
Safety and Stability family and society knowing it is safe to walk down the street.
We have NOT done OUR job in Iraq we have not created the conditions in Iraq where the Iraq people could follow these first two steps. Survival first must be secured and defended before liberty and democracy. Saddam a torturing mass murderer killed less Iraq’s than we are STILL killing NOW! It is no wonder the people rise against us. We have done more than take away a free cities liberty, we are taking their lives and the Iraq people are responding in kind. The Iraq death toll is for good reason a number the Bushies don’t talk about that number explains our failure.
” Of those Who Have Attained the Position of Prince by Villainy” Chapter 8 “The Prince” Machiavelli Gosh what can I say Nick cannot praise nor can he ignore the accomplishments of those who rise to the level of Prince and “kill one’s fellow-citizens, betray one’s friends, be without faith and without religon;”. Nick thinks that the reason these princes survive is because they commit “Well committed ” treacheries, well committed treacheries “are perpertrated once for the need of securing one’s self, and which afterwards are not persisted in, but are exchanged for measures as useful to the subjects as possible. Cruelties ill committed are those which although at first few, increase rather than diminish with time.” Our President and his Mayberry Machiavelli’s obviously never read Chapter 8
They’d throw Bush under the bus right now except Bush is king to the rabid base who coincidentally own and operate the Repub party. It doesn’t help that this same base is pulling the GOP more toward the extreme just about everyday on any issue.
The people that got them elected are about to collapse the Republican party.
What a terrific way to start my day! Thanks so much for ‘Can’t find my way home!!’
“But Saudi frustration has mounted over the past four years, as the situation in Iraq has deteriorated. King Abdullah was angry that the Bush administration ignored his advice against de-Baathification and the disbanding of the Iraqi military. He became more frustrated as America’s image in the Muslim world deteriorated, because Saudi Arabia is viewed as a close American ally.”
Surprise! Now the Saudis are getting ‘frustrated’ (code for ‘fucking pissed off’)at our brainiac decider with the legendary reverse Midas Touch as are the Syrians who both want boots on the ground over there (but have no ‘diplomatic’ way to put that out on the horn)to stave off the growing insurgency and chaos…aye aye aye.
EXCELLENT music pick, loooove this song. I saw Eric Clapton in Chicago perform “Can’t Find My Way Home” when he was touring with YVONNE ELLEMAN. She sang it so unbelievably beautifully! Would love to find a recording of that show.