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		<title>By: big al</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-659106</link>
		<dc:creator>big al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-657935&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Subway Serenade @                 43              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Condoleeza Condoleeza&lt;br /&gt;
Dems have blamed you&lt;br /&gt;
For you always seem to&lt;br /&gt;
speak with fork-ed tongue&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you’re standing in the War Room, Condoleeza&lt;br /&gt;
Do you care about our daughters and our sons?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you called George Bush your husband, Condoleeza&lt;br /&gt;
Were you trying to drive a stake through Laura’s heart?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re the girl who dragged&lt;br /&gt;
His Quagmire through the Congress&lt;br /&gt;
Thousands died there&lt;br /&gt;
‘Cause you lied there&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We all know you’re not for real, Condoleeza&lt;br /&gt;
You’re just a brat who&lt;br /&gt;
wants to tear the world apart…&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great! Mona Lisa is smiling now!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-657935"><em>Subway Serenade @                 43              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>Condoleeza Condoleeza<br />
Dems have blamed you<br />
For you always seem to<br />
speak with fork-ed tongue</em></p>
<p>When you’re standing in the War Room, Condoleeza<br />
Do you care about our daughters and our sons?</p>
<p>When you called George Bush your husband, Condoleeza<br />
Were you trying to drive a stake through Laura’s heart?</p>
<p>You’re the girl who dragged<br />
His Quagmire through the Congress<br />
Thousands died there<br />
‘Cause you lied there</p>
<p>We all know you’re not for real, Condoleeza<br />
You’re just a brat who<br />
wants to tear the world apart…
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<p>Great! Mona Lisa is smiling now!</p>
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		<title>By: HSans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658500</link>
		<dc:creator>HSans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can someone give David Gregory a back bone, aka a spine.  He has developed into this lapdog for the administration.  Seeing him ‘dance’ with Karl Rove at the Corr. Dinner a few weeks ago, gave me the creeps!  I cannot imagine a true reporter putting himself in a position where his credibility and impartiality are questioned.  That event was such an occasion for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, he sat in for Chris Matthews on &lt;em&gt;Hardball &lt;/em&gt;two weeks ago, and the ’soft balls’ he pitched made me turn off the TV.  He performed like a toady to his guests.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone give David Gregory a back bone, aka a spine.  He has developed into this lapdog for the administration.  Seeing him ‘dance’ with Karl Rove at the Corr. Dinner a few weeks ago, gave me the creeps!  I cannot imagine a true reporter putting himself in a position where his credibility and impartiality are questioned.  That event was such an occasion for me.</p>
<p>Also, he sat in for Chris Matthews on <em>Hardball </em>two weeks ago, and the ’soft balls’ he pitched made me turn off the TV.  He performed like a toady to his guests.</p>
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		<title>By: HSans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658483</link>
		<dc:creator>HSans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wonder if she’ll defend Tobais’ use of prostitutes for massages, as in “What Tobais did was completely appropriate for someone in a high profile and stressful job. He needed to relax. The press is blowing, no pun intended, this up. It’s not as if he was raping pages in Congress.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess everyone will now forgive Bill Clinton, realising that he was also “someone in a high profile and stressful job.  He needed to relax.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wonder if she’ll defend Tobais’ use of prostitutes for massages, as in “What Tobais did was completely appropriate for someone in a high profile and stressful job. He needed to relax. The press is blowing, no pun intended, this up. It’s not as if he was raping pages in Congress.”</em></p>
<p>I guess everyone will now forgive Bill Clinton, realising that he was also “someone in a high profile and stressful job.  He needed to relax.”</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth B.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658443</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658388&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;John H. Farr @ 181&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s now 1:30 p.m. on the East Coast, and none of the blogs I read except for Think Progress has &lt;i&gt;a single article posted&lt;/i&gt; about all the goings-on we’re always being urged to watch. Could it be that there really isn’t anything to say any more?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why watch this stuff? I don’t, and look how wonderful I am.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry but I must respectfully disagree.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There WERE people saying the same old thing- Condi being the most rage-inducing to watch, the talking heads who always miss the point- But Senator Biden and Rep. Murtha both respectively slapped down and shocked their interviewers. Biden had an actual, reasoned conversation about what needs to be done in Iraq ALL talking points aside and stated that “the American people aren’t stupid.” Rep. Murtha nearly gave Bob Schieffer a heart attack when he mentioned impeachment- and to be fair it made him back pedal a bit to my disappointment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something tangible is happening here in this country, we have to be vigilant in making sure we watch for these things when it might feel like a complete waste of time to watch. I for one try to crochet so that it’s not a complete waste if it’s the same-old-crap. I think today, fortunately, was not one of those days.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-658388"><em>John H. Farr @ 181</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>It’s now 1:30 p.m. on the East Coast, and none of the blogs I read except for Think Progress has <i>a single article posted</i> about all the goings-on we’re always being urged to watch. Could it be that there really isn’t anything to say any more?</p>
<p>So why watch this stuff? I don’t, and look how wonderful I am.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry but I must respectfully disagree.</p>
<p>There WERE people saying the same old thing- Condi being the most rage-inducing to watch, the talking heads who always miss the point- But Senator Biden and Rep. Murtha both respectively slapped down and shocked their interviewers. Biden had an actual, reasoned conversation about what needs to be done in Iraq ALL talking points aside and stated that “the American people aren’t stupid.” Rep. Murtha nearly gave Bob Schieffer a heart attack when he mentioned impeachment- and to be fair it made him back pedal a bit to my disappointment. </p>
<p>Something tangible is happening here in this country, we have to be vigilant in making sure we watch for these things when it might feel like a complete waste of time to watch. I for one try to crochet so that it’s not a complete waste if it’s the same-old-crap. I think today, fortunately, was not one of those days.</p>
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		<title>By: LizOnlineInGa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658429</link>
		<dc:creator>LizOnlineInGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658053&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;landofthefree @ 155 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-657892&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CocoaBeach @ 4 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So has Russert fallen out of favor? No Rice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it just me, or ever since the revelation at Scooter’s trial that MTP is the “VPs favorite format”, there have been no top-level Bush Admins on MTP? No Bush, Cheney, top cabinet members? I can’t remember any appearing, but my memory could be faulty. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could it be that NBC is asking him to refrain from having top Bush staffers, in an attempt to distance Russert from the notion that he’s an administration patsy?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Last week on Press the Meat it was a feast of BushCo apparatchiks — &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;April 22, 2007: Charles Steger, Michael Leavitt, Margaret Spellings, Gerald Massengill, Tom Ridge, Doris Kearns Goodwin, David Gregory, Jon Meacham, Pete Williams  Margaret Spelling, Tom Ridge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except for Charles Steger, president of Virginia Tech, and Gerald Massengill, (ret)Virginia State Police Superintendent, all the others are Bush cronies and/or lapdogs:&lt;br /&gt;
Leavitt - Secretary, Dept. of HHS&lt;br /&gt;
Spelling - Secretary, Dept. of Education&lt;br /&gt;
Ridge - former Secretary, Dept. of Homeland Security&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Press lapdogs: Kearns-Goodwin, Gregory, Meacham, and Williams.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-658053"><em>landofthefree @ 155 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-657892"><em>CocoaBeach @ 4 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So has Russert fallen out of favor? No Rice</p>
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<p>Is it just me, or ever since the revelation at Scooter’s trial that MTP is the “VPs favorite format”, there have been no top-level Bush Admins on MTP? No Bush, Cheney, top cabinet members? I can’t remember any appearing, but my memory could be faulty. </p>
<p>Could it be that NBC is asking him to refrain from having top Bush staffers, in an attempt to distance Russert from the notion that he’s an administration patsy?</p>
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<p>Last week on Press the Meat it was a feast of BushCo apparatchiks — </p>
<blockquote><p>April 22, 2007: Charles Steger, Michael Leavitt, Margaret Spellings, Gerald Massengill, Tom Ridge, Doris Kearns Goodwin, David Gregory, Jon Meacham, Pete Williams  Margaret Spelling, Tom Ridge</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Except for Charles Steger, president of Virginia Tech, and Gerald Massengill, (ret)Virginia State Police Superintendent, all the others are Bush cronies and/or lapdogs:<br />
Leavitt &#8211; Secretary, Dept. of HHS<br />
Spelling &#8211; Secretary, Dept. of Education<br />
Ridge &#8211; former Secretary, Dept. of Homeland Security</p>
<p>Press lapdogs: Kearns-Goodwin, Gregory, Meacham, and Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: John H. Farr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658388</link>
		<dc:creator>John H. Farr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s now 1:30 p.m. on the East Coast, and none of the blogs I read except for Think Progress has &lt;i&gt;a single article posted&lt;/i&gt; about all the goings-on we’re always being urged to watch. Could it be that there really isn’t anything to say any more?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why watch this stuff? I don’t, and look how wonderful I am.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s now 1:30 p.m. on the East Coast, and none of the blogs I read except for Think Progress has <i>a single article posted</i> about all the goings-on we’re always being urged to watch. Could it be that there really isn’t anything to say any more?</p>
<p>So why watch this stuff? I don’t, and look how wonderful I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth B.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658362</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/04/28/sea_change/index.html&quot;&gt;Glenn Greenwald&lt;/a&gt; made my point way better than I could…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/04/28/sea_change/index.html">Glenn Greenwald</a> made my point way better than I could…</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth B.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658263</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658256&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 178&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Welcome, Elizabeth B.!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like you already have a lot to contribute.  Glad you are with us!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;::blush:: Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-658256"><em>egregious @ 178</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Welcome, Elizabeth B.!</p>
<p>Looks like you already have a lot to contribute.  Glad you are with us!</p>
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<p>::blush:: Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658256</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Welcome, Elizabeth B.!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Looks like you already have a lot to contribute.  Glad you are with us!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Elizabeth B.!</p>
<p>Looks like you already have a lot to contribute.  Glad you are with us!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth B.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/sunday-talking-head-thread-52/#comment-658250</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-657908&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 17 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know there are a bunch of folks reading but not posting a comment this morning.  Why not step into the comments and introduce yourself this morning?  Come on in, the water’s fine…and we’re always happy to welcome some new voices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Morning — have another cuppa and say howdy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;::beams:: Such an invitation cannot be refused.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to say that out of everything I watched this morning, the talking heads predictably disappointed me…and Joe Biden was on for an hour of what I will call “The First Real Discussion of How America Goes Forward in Iraq”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t want our troops stretched, I want the VA to get the proper resources and funds and governance it needs to be a viable institution, I want our troops to have everything they need. This is where I part with Democrats on this spending bill. The very notion that having all of our troops out and THEN working on diplomacy will work is utter nonsense. This is the fundamental disconnect that Biden acknowledges. These things need to and should have been working in CONJUNCTION with one another, but as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/world/middleeast/29reconstruct.html?_r=2&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;article in the New York Times&lt;/a&gt; (which wasn’t mentioned on the TV today, I don’t think) that describes the failure of contractors in Iraq to properly educate the Iraqi people on how best to implement these facilities is the quintessential Bush Administration error in this war. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Democrats offer the opposite, more funds for diplomatic and reconstruction efforts that ignore the reality on the ground-that there are car bombings and insurgent movements on the ground that OBVIOUSLY diplomats and civilian workers are not prepared to handle. Joe Biden brilliantly laid out what has happened up until now, and what our options as a country are at this point, partisanship aside. As a matter of fact, I believe Senator Biden and Senator Brownback have very similar views on the issue. What this is about-&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/index.html&quot;&gt;and Jon Stewart said it best&lt;/a&gt;- it is about not talking over eachother, it is about getting people inside the beltway to trust that we as Americans can have a frank discussion about how to move forward on this issue as a country. Senator Biden said it today, “the American people are not stupid.” Thank you Senator Biden for acknowledging my intelligence as a citizen, now let’s get down to business.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-657908"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 17 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I know there are a bunch of folks reading but not posting a comment this morning.  Why not step into the comments and introduce yourself this morning?  Come on in, the water’s fine…and we’re always happy to welcome some new voices.</p>
<p>Morning — have another cuppa and say howdy!</p>
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<p>::beams:: Such an invitation cannot be refused.</p>
<p>I have to say that out of everything I watched this morning, the talking heads predictably disappointed me…and Joe Biden was on for an hour of what I will call “The First Real Discussion of How America Goes Forward in Iraq”. </p>
<p>I don’t want our troops stretched, I want the VA to get the proper resources and funds and governance it needs to be a viable institution, I want our troops to have everything they need. This is where I part with Democrats on this spending bill. The very notion that having all of our troops out and THEN working on diplomacy will work is utter nonsense. This is the fundamental disconnect that Biden acknowledges. These things need to and should have been working in CONJUNCTION with one another, but as the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/world/middleeast/29reconstruct.html?_r=2&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin">article in the New York Times</a> (which wasn’t mentioned on the TV today, I don’t think) that describes the failure of contractors in Iraq to properly educate the Iraqi people on how best to implement these facilities is the quintessential Bush Administration error in this war. </p>
<p>The Democrats offer the opposite, more funds for diplomatic and reconstruction efforts that ignore the reality on the ground-that there are car bombings and insurgent movements on the ground that OBVIOUSLY diplomats and civilian workers are not prepared to handle. Joe Biden brilliantly laid out what has happened up until now, and what our options as a country are at this point, partisanship aside. As a matter of fact, I believe Senator Biden and Senator Brownback have very similar views on the issue. What this is about-<a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/archives/index.html">and Jon Stewart said it best</a>- it is about not talking over eachother, it is about getting people inside the beltway to trust that we as Americans can have a frank discussion about how to move forward on this issue as a country. Senator Biden said it today, “the American people are not stupid.” Thank you Senator Biden for acknowledging my intelligence as a citizen, now let’s get down to business.</p>
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