One case in point: I read in this morning’s paper an article about Bush giving a speech at Miami Dade College yesterday. It was a long article, all about Bush’s hope for immigration reform. Down at the bottom, the very last paragraph, almost as an aside, it said that after his speech, Bush attended a $25,000 a plate private fundraiser in which he raised $1 Million for the GOP.

So get real people….. the GOP may be hurting right now because of their unbelievable arrogance and incompetence, but they are by no means close to disappearing. The fascists that make up their base are still very committed to the world view they embrace.

The average American may be struggling right now to get by, but the average CEO has seen his compensation explode through the roof. So don’t take anything for granted. Until the silver stake actually enters the heart, the vampire GOP is always capable of roaring back.

Enjoy your schadenfreude as these hypocrites go down one by one, hoisted on their own petards. But don’t confuse this with any real damage yet…..

The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination

Michael Meacher
Saturday September 6, 2003
The Guardian

Massive attention has now been given – and rightly so – to the reasons why Britain went to war against Iraq. But far too little attention has focused on why the US went to war, and that throws light on British motives too. The conventional explanation is that after the Twin Towers were hit, retaliation against al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan was a natural first step in launching a global war against terrorism. Then, because Saddam Hussein was alleged by the US and UK governments to retain weapons of mass destruction, the war could be extended to Iraq as well. However this theory does not fit all the facts. The truth may be a great deal murkier.

We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for

Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld’s deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush’s younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney’s chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America’s Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank,

Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

Off topic and possibly a very uninformed question.

Are all the congressmen/senators on the judiciary committee lawyers?
If not, who advises them? I know Lehey is a Vermont lawyer, but who helps them with federal laws a republican from the DOJ?

When Democrats won the election they started hiring hundreds of new staff in addition to their existing staff and amongst them lawyers. If I remember correctly, they hired 300 lawyers who are now staffing various committees.

Ed*ard Teller @
236

cinnamonape @
226

Did Condi get her Ph.D. at Stanford? NO! It was at some place called the University of Denver. While it is a top-100 Graduate School in some surveys today, it is just barely so…and I have no idea what it ranked in the mid-1980’s.

University of Denver was founded in 1864 by John Evans, who also founded Northwestern University. Evans, while Governor of Colorado, was one of the perpetrators of the Sand Creek Massacre, at which many Comanche were raped, tortured and murdered.

If you look at the origins of many universities, you’ll find some skeletons. DU is now a fine university. My ex-wife got a doctorate in Social Work there; she’s half Navajo, and it was the perfect program for her. She never thought of herself as a researcher until she went there in mid-life after a career in Social Work. They not only taught her how to work with numbers (not her favorite thing previously) and showed her how it could be fun.

I took a course in the Dead Sea Scrolls there, when we were living in Denver at a different time.

Denver University is a legit university, not some sort of fake degree mill.

Bob in HI

Yeah, the first President of the University of Oklahoma, my alma mater, was Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan.

cinnamonape @
226

Did Condi get her Ph.D. at Stanford? NO! It was at some place called the University of Denver. While it is a top-100 Graduate School in some surveys today, it is just barely so…and I have no idea what it ranked in the mid-1980’s.

University of Denver was founded in 1864 by John Evans, who also founded Northwestern University. Evans, while Governor of Colorado, was one of the perpetrators of the Sand Creek Massacre, at which many Comanche were raped, tortured and murdered.

If you look at the origins of many universities, you’ll find some skeletons. DU is now a fine university. My ex-wife got a doctorate in Social Work there; she’s half Navajo, and it was the perfect program for her. She never thought of herself as a researcher until she went there in mid-life after a career in Social Work. They not only taught her how to work with numbers (not her favorite thing previously) and showed her how it could be fun.

I took a course in the Dead Sea Scrolls there, when we were living in Denver at a different time.

Denver University is a legit university, not some sort of fake degree mill.

Bob in HI

Dr Dick (et al.)

Actually, it was the Cheyenne.

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Thanks, I was still questioning my memory when you posted. Used to live among many Cheyenne-Arapaho in Western Okla, some of whom descended from victims of the similar attack on the Washita River in Okla.

Found an interesting link here regarding the recent location of the actual Sand Creek site, with some very interesting comments.
Re: haters calling themselves Christians:

Leading the attack was Colonel John M. Chivington, a former Methodist preacher known as the “Fighting Parson.” Chivington was already on record as saying his mission in life was “to kill Indians.”

My favorite part:

…the Sand Creek inquiry demonstrated the accuracy of the Native Americans’ oral history, passed down through several tribal generations, and its value in archaeological research.

That research was largely done by my Ph.D. advisor.

DrDick @
248

Ed*ard Teller @ 245

DrDick @
238

Actually, it was the Cheyenne. My dissertation adviser worked with the Sand Creek survivor’s descendants.

key words being survivor’s descendants. Supposedly, my dad’s maternal grandmother’s sister died there. She was living with Arapaho who had gone to Sand Creek for the winter because it was supposedly safe.

The Arapaho often camped with the Cheyenne during the 19th century and the two tribes shared a reservation in Oklahoma until 1907.

Do you teach subjects on Native American history? I teach subjects on music history at UAA in Anchorage.

Actually I teach anthropology, but I am an ethnohistorian with a specialization in Native North America (primarily tribes of the southeastern US).

Ed*ard Teller @ 245

DrDick @
238

Actually, it was the Cheyenne. My dissertation adviser worked with the Sand Creek survivor’s descendants.

key words being survivor’s descendants. Supposedly, my dad’s maternal grandmother’s sister died there. She was living with Arapaho who had gone to Sand Creek for the winter because it was supposedly safe.

The Arapaho often camped with the Cheyenne during the 19th century and the two tribes shared a reservation in Oklahoma until 1907.

Do you teach subjects on Native American history? I teach subjects on music history at UAA in Anchorage.

Actually, it was the Cheyenne.

.
Thanks, I was still questioning my memory when you posted. Used to live among many Cheyenne-Arapaho in Western Okla, some of whom descended from victims of the similar attack on the Washita River in Okla.

Found an interesting link here regarding the recent location of the actual Sand Creek site, with some very interesting comments.
Re: haters calling themselves Christians:

Leading the attack was Colonel John M. Chivington, a former Methodist preacher known as the “Fighting Parson.” Chivington was already on record as saying his mission in life was “to kill Indians.”

My favorite part:

…the Sand Creek inquiry demonstrated the accuracy of the Native Americans’ oral history, passed down through several tribal generations, and its value in archaeological research.