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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-660025</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-659681&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Big Mitch @&lt;br /&gt;
                197              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here’s another little sex-scandal of a sort. Republican Congressman Don Young single-handedly blocked legislation that would have made Saipan, an American protectorate, subject to U.S. labor standards. Instead, garments with “Made in the USA” labels are produced by women who are virtual slaves, often also forced into prostitution, and then, if they should become pregnant, forced to have abortions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Don Young’s days may be numbered. I wrote about it last week in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-young.html&quot;&gt;Don Young&lt;/a&gt; which was updated in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/who-knew.html&quot;&gt;Who knew?&lt;/a&gt; The Anchorage Daily News is picking up the story as I reported in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/scoop-on-don-young.html&quot;&gt;The scoop on Don Young&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check it out on &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;What we know so far …&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go get ‘em, Mitch!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What does Young use for a campaign slogan, anyway?  “Don Young: Not Quite As Senile As Ted Stevens”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-659681"><em>Big Mitch @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Here’s another little sex-scandal of a sort. Republican Congressman Don Young single-handedly blocked legislation that would have made Saipan, an American protectorate, subject to U.S. labor standards. Instead, garments with “Made in the USA” labels are produced by women who are virtual slaves, often also forced into prostitution, and then, if they should become pregnant, forced to have abortions. </p>
<p>But Don Young’s days may be numbered. I wrote about it last week in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-young.html">Don Young</a> which was updated in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/who-knew.html">Who knew?</a> The Anchorage Daily News is picking up the story as I reported in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/scoop-on-don-young.html">The scoop on Don Young</a>.</p>
<p>Check it out on <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com">What we know so far …</a></p>
<p>“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”</p>
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<p>Go get ‘em, Mitch!</p>
<p>What does Young use for a campaign slogan, anyway?  “Don Young: Not Quite As Senile As Ted Stevens”?</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-660014</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-659849&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;drbonzo @&lt;br /&gt;
                198              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danger, danger!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DC Madame == Bright Shiny Object!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you were W, wouldn’t you rather have the Left (and CNN) breathlessly chattering about Randall Tobias’s “massages” than keeping their eyes on the Abu Gonzales follies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We can do both, dear.  We are vast; we contain multitudes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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                198              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Danger, danger!</p>
<p>DC Madame == Bright Shiny Object!</p>
<p>If you were W, wouldn’t you rather have the Left (and CNN) breathlessly chattering about Randall Tobias’s “massages” than keeping their eyes on the Abu Gonzales follies?</p>
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<p>We can do both, dear.  We are vast; we contain multitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: drbonzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Danger, danger!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DC Madame == Bright Shiny Object!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you were W, wouldn’t you rather have the Left (and CNN) breathlessly chattering about Randall Tobias’s “massages” than keeping their eyes on the Abu Gonzales follies?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danger, danger!</p>
<p>DC Madame == Bright Shiny Object!</p>
<p>If you were W, wouldn’t you rather have the Left (and CNN) breathlessly chattering about Randall Tobias’s “massages” than keeping their eyes on the Abu Gonzales follies?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mitch</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-659681</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s another little sex-scandal of a sort. Republican Congressman Don Young single-handedly blocked legislation that would have made Saipan, an American protectorate, subject to U.S. labor standards. Instead, garments with “Made in the USA” labels are produced by women who are virtual slaves, often also forced into prostitution, and then, if they should become pregnant, forced to have abortions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But Don Young’s days may be numbered. I wrote about it last week in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-young.html&quot;&gt;Don Young&lt;/a&gt; which was updated in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/who-knew.html&quot;&gt;Who knew?&lt;/a&gt; The Anchorage Daily News is picking up the story as I reported in &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/scoop-on-don-young.html&quot;&gt;The scoop on Don Young&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check it out on &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;What we know so far …&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s another little sex-scandal of a sort. Republican Congressman Don Young single-handedly blocked legislation that would have made Saipan, an American protectorate, subject to U.S. labor standards. Instead, garments with “Made in the USA” labels are produced by women who are virtual slaves, often also forced into prostitution, and then, if they should become pregnant, forced to have abortions. </p>
<p>But Don Young’s days may be numbered. I wrote about it last week in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/don-young.html">Don Young</a> which was updated in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/who-knew.html">Who knew?</a> The Anchorage Daily News is picking up the story as I reported in <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com/2007/04/scoop-on-don-young.html">The scoop on Don Young</a>.</p>
<p>Check it out on <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com">What we know so far …</a></p>
<p>“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”</p>
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		<title>By: LJ/Aquaria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-659592</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ/Aquaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658879&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phoenix Woman @&lt;br /&gt;
                145              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;That’s why I seriously doubt that many Democrats (besides Dick Morris, who really isn’t a Dem) will be on this list:  It’s all about the kink.  And if Palfrey was truly running this as a straight no-sex domination service (dommes don’t go down on their clients, nor do they allow them to engage in anything where his penis comes near her genitals), it could very well be that there was no “actual sex” involved. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe in the prossie world this is true. But not for non-prossie dommes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and one thing that fantasy dommes don’t do is give ‘massages’ to their clients.  If anything, they’d make the clients give massages to them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Um. True. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-659503&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jim @&lt;br /&gt;
                195              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I thought you all supported a women’s choice to use her boday as she see’s fit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Why was it ok when Bill did it for free?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have heard of this thing called &lt;i&gt;consent&lt;/i&gt; have you not? If two (or more) adults want to bang each other, more power to ‘em. Not my business.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When money for sex enters the equation, consent becomes more complex. Is the prostitute really having sex with the person because she wants to…or is it because she’ll starve or be beaten if she doesn’t?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prostitution is always complicated by a host of other factors that have little to do with genuine consent. Most prostitutes are not prostitutes by choice. Let’s face it, it’s the rare person who would look at options in life and say, “Well, I have this scholarship for medical school to become a doctor…or I could be a hooker. I’ll be a hooker!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Capisce?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-658879"><em>Phoenix Woman @<br />
                145              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>That’s why I seriously doubt that many Democrats (besides Dick Morris, who really isn’t a Dem) will be on this list:  It’s all about the kink.  And if Palfrey was truly running this as a straight no-sex domination service (dommes don’t go down on their clients, nor do they allow them to engage in anything where his penis comes near her genitals), it could very well be that there was no “actual sex” involved. </p>
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<p>Maybe in the prossie world this is true. But not for non-prossie dommes.</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, and one thing that fantasy dommes don’t do is give ‘massages’ to their clients.  If anything, they’d make the clients give massages to them.</p>
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<p>Um. True. :)</p>
<p><a href="#comment-659503"><em>Jim @<br />
                195              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I thought you all supported a women’s choice to use her boday as she see’s fit.<br />
 Why was it ok when Bill did it for free?</p>
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<p>You have heard of this thing called <i>consent</i> have you not? If two (or more) adults want to bang each other, more power to ‘em. Not my business.</p>
<p>When money for sex enters the equation, consent becomes more complex. Is the prostitute really having sex with the person because she wants to…or is it because she’ll starve or be beaten if she doesn’t?</p>
<p>Prostitution is always complicated by a host of other factors that have little to do with genuine consent. Most prostitutes are not prostitutes by choice. Let’s face it, it’s the rare person who would look at options in life and say, “Well, I have this scholarship for medical school to become a doctor…or I could be a hooker. I’ll be a hooker!”</p>
<p>Capisce?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought you all supported a women’s choice to use her boday as she see’s fit.&lt;br /&gt;
 Why was it ok when Bill did it for free?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you all supported a women’s choice to use her boday as she see’s fit.<br />
 Why was it ok when Bill did it for free?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-659289</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, somebody’s gotta track down all the phone numbers. Isn’t it our civic duty to do the job you know MSM isn’t going to touch with rubber gloves?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amazing!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, somebody’s gotta track down all the phone numbers. Isn’t it our civic duty to do the job you know MSM isn’t going to touch with rubber gloves?</p>
<p>Amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: white_n_az</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/29/prostitution-cronyism-nepotism-team-bush/#comment-659166</link>
		<dc:creator>white_n_az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658751&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;darkblack @&lt;br /&gt;
                24              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-658748&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;George @ 21&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;$193,590 / 275 = 704 massages.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And they ended happily ever after&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sort of like Mandi in Animal House…have to use rubber gloves&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-658751"><em>darkblack @<br />
                24              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-658748"><em>George @ 21</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>$193,590 / 275 = 704 massages.</p>
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<p><em>And they ended happily ever after</em></p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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<p>sort of like Mandi in Animal House…have to use rubber gloves</p>
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		<title>By: hychka</title>
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		<dc:creator>hychka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Back home again in Indiana, where I live, there is NOTHING in the papers to rattle our perfect Sunday with the news that our former Eli Lilly CEO ( you can’t get bigger than that in this state! No, not even Peyton Manning!) used a …. (yuk!) “lady of the night.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My son-in-law, the Lilly executive, had his jaw on the floor upon hearing the news!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hee! Hee! Hee!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back home again in Indiana, where I live, there is NOTHING in the papers to rattle our perfect Sunday with the news that our former Eli Lilly CEO ( you can’t get bigger than that in this state! No, not even Peyton Manning!) used a …. (yuk!) “lady of the night.”</p>
<p>My son-in-law, the Lilly executive, had his jaw on the floor upon hearing the news!</p>
<p>Hee! Hee! Hee!</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/03/1359257&quot;&gt;Here’s Larry Flynt&lt;/a&gt; — who ought to know — on who thinks about what in DC:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Can you explain what the response was? I mean, how did you get information on Congress Member Livingston? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LARRY FLYNT: Well, you know, he first came out and said I may have strayed from my family, but never with anybody that worked for me or a lobbyist. Well, my three primary sources was a lobbyist on Capitol Hill, an intern that worked for him and a judge in his home district. So, you know, he was very careless, you know, in terms of what he was doing. That’s the way most of them are that actually wind up getting caught. And of course, then in that web we also have Henry Hyde and Dan Burton and Bob Barr and some others. But everybody accused me of going after the republicans, but that seemed to be the people that we wound up getting. I don’t know why, but, you know, the conventional wisdom in Washington is if there’s a scandal, money is involved, it’s a Republican. If it’s sex it’s a Democrat, but in actuality is, it’s the complete opposite. &lt;b&gt;With republicans, it’s sex. With democrats, it’s money.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as I’ve said earlier, it’s because — up until very recently — the Democrats had an extreme funding disadvantage compared to the Republicans.  (The K Street Project of Grover Norquist’s and Tom DeLay’s, in addition to being a money-laundering scheme, was also a shakedown scheme where entities that donated to Democrats were severely punished for doing so.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way:  <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/03/1359257">Here’s Larry Flynt</a> — who ought to know — on who thinks about what in DC:</p>
<blockquote><p>AMY GOODMAN: Can you explain what the response was? I mean, how did you get information on Congress Member Livingston? </p>
<p>LARRY FLYNT: Well, you know, he first came out and said I may have strayed from my family, but never with anybody that worked for me or a lobbyist. Well, my three primary sources was a lobbyist on Capitol Hill, an intern that worked for him and a judge in his home district. So, you know, he was very careless, you know, in terms of what he was doing. That’s the way most of them are that actually wind up getting caught. And of course, then in that web we also have Henry Hyde and Dan Burton and Bob Barr and some others. But everybody accused me of going after the republicans, but that seemed to be the people that we wound up getting. I don’t know why, but, you know, the conventional wisdom in Washington is if there’s a scandal, money is involved, it’s a Republican. If it’s sex it’s a Democrat, but in actuality is, it’s the complete opposite. <b>With republicans, it’s sex. With democrats, it’s money.</b> </p>
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<p>And as I’ve said earlier, it’s because — up until very recently — the Democrats had an extreme funding disadvantage compared to the Republicans.  (The K Street Project of Grover Norquist’s and Tom DeLay’s, in addition to being a money-laundering scheme, was also a shakedown scheme where entities that donated to Democrats were severely punished for doing so.)</p>
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