Wow. Hookergate just keeps getting better and better, doesn't it? Randy "Hookers Bad, 'Massage Therapists' Good" Tobias, Harlan K. "Shock and Awe" Ullman, and now Toesucker Dick Morris, one of the infamous "FOX Democrats" whose sole reason for being on that network is to bash any Democrat to the left of Attila the Hun.
Speaking of Randy Tobias, let's look at his assertion that he now has "Central American" women come to his condo for his massage needs. There are a number of questions that this raises: Are these women here legally? Were they lured into the sex industry and are they being kept as slaves by their "employers"? And why, if a good massage is so important to Tobias, does he not avail himself of the services of legitimate massage therapists in the D.C. area — all of whom charge considerably less than the $275 per hour (90 minute minimum) that Palfrey's service charged?
But there's another angle to the whole concept of prostitution and corruption in the Bush Junta. Let me explain.
TeddySanFran's post on the D.C. Madam and her high-flying and hypocritically "anti-prostitution" clientele made me think about another recently-discovered instance of sex for pay by one of the Bush Junta. Rather, JMHM over at Sisyphus Shrugged privately passed on the information, including this Glenn Kessler piece in the WaPo, that points up how the members of the Bush Junta have no apparent problem taking our tax dollars and using them to feather the beds of their sex partners — in this case, Shaha Riza, Paul Wolfowitz' girlfriend, who has been ensconced at taxpayer expense in a Potemkin "foundation" that serves no obvious purpose other than to keep her in funds:
The Foundation for the Future, as the effort is called, has made no grants and held only two board meetings since its creation 1 1/2 years ago. Though Shaha Riza, who has been romantically linked to Wolfowitz, is not listed as part of the staff on the organization's Web site, she is the only person working in the group's offices, located within the Henry L. Stimson Center, a think tank. The Washington office is listed as a "branch," according to the site, which promises that soon a main office will be established in Beirut.
"It is basically just her running this thing," said Tamara Cofman Wittes, research fellow at the Brookings Institution Saban Center for Middle East Policy, who closely tracks democracy programs in the region. She said the board members had no experience in grant-making and thus had "started from zero," with no bylaws or grant-making guidelines. She said the board has had a goal of trying to make its first grant by summer, nearly two years after the organization was formed.
The United States contributed almost two-thirds of the foundation's $56 million budget, according to the State Department, which said last night that the foundation plans to hire a chief operating officer and chief financial officer next month.
Two years at $56 million a year and they don't have a COO or a CFO? Where does all the money go, straight into Riza's purse? Who could have dreamed up something this blatantly crooked and messed up?
If you answered "Dick Cheney", you're close:
Since September 2005, the World Bank has paid Riza's salary — which under the terms of a contract dictated by Wolfowitz included automatic raises that has brought it to $193,590 tax-free — while she was seconded to the State Department to assist on Middle East democracy issues. There, she worked under Elizabeth Cheney, who was then principal deputy assistant secretary; Wolfowitz worked for Cheney's father as an undersecretary of defense in the George H.W. Bush administration.
Elizabeth Cheney, who has since left the State Department, was in charge of democracy promotion and was instrumental in creating the Foundation for the Future, which Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice announced with fanfare at a conference in Bahrain in November 2005. The foundation would make grants that let "reformers to draw upon their ideas and their ideals to nurture grass-roots organizations that support the development of democracy," Rice said.
Now remember, Elizabeth Cheney's dad was oh-so-quick to level charges of nepotism against Joe Wilson. He was saying that even as his otherwise-unemployable daughter was drawing a hefty salary from us.
Try to imagine the uproar that would have ensued in the American press during the Clinton administration had Al Gore tried to get his daughter Karenna a gig anywhere in the Federal government, much less a series of gigs. We'd still be hearing about it. Yet the celebrity press corps didn't raise so much as a whimper in protest when Papa Cheney gets one of his daughters a few little gigs to round out her CV.
Arrrrrrrgh.
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Phoenix Women!
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Hi, PW!
teeheehee
RonD @
4
Hello!
Please pass the brain bleach – that picture of Wolfowitz with his thumb appearing to go up his nose is hurting my eyes! ;-)
Yeah, but, see, Al Gore’s kids–not to mention Chelsea Clinton–have actual skills and smarts and stuff, and can get jobs based more or less on their own merits.
PW, one of the most despicable things about this epidemic of crony/nepotism that has gone unreported in the MSM is you know very well they’re sharpening their knives to use on Democrats in order to prove A), their lack of “liberal bias”, and B), that they’re not afraid.
LoudounLib @ 7
It’s even better when it’s not cropped and shrunk to fit. Such a dreamboat! Hell, if I were in Riza’s Pradas, I’d want twice what she’s getting.
Nepotism is frowned upon, and not allowed, in the municipal government where I work. So how come the administration gets to do it?
Oh, never mind…
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..923-4.html
~~~
“There’s another humanitarian crisis spreading, yet hidden from view. Each year, an estimated 800,000 to 900,000 human beings are bought, sold or forced across the world’s borders. Among them are hundreds of thousands of teenage girls, and others as young as five, who fall victim to the sex trade. This commerce in human life generates billions of dollars each year — much of which is used to finance organized crime.
There’s a special evil in the abuse and exploitation of the most innocent and vulnerable. The victims of sex trade see little of life before they see the very worst of life — an underground of brutality and lonely fear. Those who create these victims and profit from their suffering must be severely punished. Those who patronize this industry debase themselves and deepen the misery of others. And governments that tolerate this trade are tolerating a form of slavery.
This problem has appeared in my own country, and we are working to stop it. The PROTECT Act, which I signed into law this year, makes it a crime for any person to enter the United States, or for any citizen to travel abroad, for the purpose of sex tourism involving children. The Department of Justice is actively investigating sex tour operators and patrons, who can face up to 30 years in prison. Under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, the United States is using sanctions against governments to discourage human trafficking.
…
All the challenges I have spoken of this morning require urgent attention and moral clarity.” ~ the morally clear leader of the less morally clear Rthugs
Wonder if Abu Gonzales will do his job and help this investigation.
Phoenix Woman @ 10
Heh! for her pain and suffering! ;-)
Give “Randy” Tobias a break.
While multi-millionaire Rush Limbaugh may have the money to take sex tourism jaunts to the Dominican Republic, a working stiff like Tobias needed to make do with Ms. Palmfrey’s “pizza”.
RonD @ 9
Oh, of course. One of these days I have to do a piece on how Paul Krugman, an opinion columnist for the NYT, is held to a much higher standard than most Times journalists and any of his fellow NYT columnists, especially the right-wing ones.
S.I.U.#14,
You just made me snort my COFFEE!!
Liz Cheney’s husband, Philip Perry, skates in and out of Federal “service” as well, doing Darth’s bidding at DoJ, OMB, and DHS. In between these stints, he’s in private law practice at Latham&Watkins (Chertoff’s firm) advising clients on how to best access these agencies.
They have spawned five children, all of whom will require close scrutiny in the 2020s, I imagine. Has Cheney Grandchild Number Six, of The Cheney Who May Not Wed, arrived yet?
Likewise, remember Phil Donohue’s statement on Moyers about having to have two conservatives for every “liberal”.-as if being antiwar is somehow an economic arguement. The true conservatives I know are ALL antiwar.
Phoenix Woman @ 15
PW – do you mean a higher standard by Times editors, or just by the usual crowd of commenting pundits? The ones that jump on any tiny error by a D while closing their errors to the huge “misspeaks” by R’s?
Phoenix Woman @ 10
An excellent example of the truism that pets and mates grow to resemble their companions!
$193,590 / 275 = 704 massages.
I think it was Sean-Paul over at agonist.org or maybe it was Steve Clemons of the WashNote who speculated that Riza is a spy.
Nepotism is bipartisan. To a lesser degree, cronyism. But only so-called “conservatives,” with their shame of sex and the money to pay for private arrangements excel at prostitution.
One other angle on this story that occurs to me is that maybe Randy Tobias is being truthful or partially truthful when he says there was no sex. He may be impotent or he may have gotten the, um, escorts for his wife.Or maybe he’s just using the southern man’s definition of “sex.”
TSF – good thing my companion is a cute little calico kitty ;-)
George @ 21
And they ended happily ever after
;>)
I know Waxman is sovery busy, but he needs to look at this $54 million dollar grant for NOTHING AT ALL.
Lemons in the leadership…Juice’m;
DC sex scandal…Juicy;
Celebrity Press corps…Juiceless!
Phoenix Woman, I have the perfect video for this –
The Dresden Dolls – Mrs. O
Perfect for this and our favorite lady of the moment, Ms Condi. Sorta fits them both.
darkblack @ 24
No, no, no. He says he wasn’t getting the “happy ending” kind of massage. And since he’s a Republican, I guess we have to believe him. They don’t lie, you know.
Totally off topic, but have any firepups notice a very cool version of “My Generation” by the Zimmers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY
Is that like 2 “not happy endings” per day or more?
tejanarusa @ 19
The Times’ editors — at the behest of the Bushies, most likely.
Remember when Jason Leopold wrote a piece for Salon.com that included an allegation about Thomas White, former Enron exec (he’s the one who ran the “illusory profits” division) who was picked by Bush to be Secretary of the Army? Leopold’s piece was cited in good faith by Krugman, but when White raised a ruckus — and Leopold wasn’t able to prove his allegation beyond a shadow of a doubt — Leopold was fired by Salon.com AND Krugman was forced to apologize for citing him (even though everything else in Leopold’s article checked out).
All this was happening while Krugman’s fellow NYT opinion columnist William friggin’ Safire was passing on bullshit about 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta meeting with Iraqi intelligence agents in Prague. Yet he was allowed to retire without apologizing for that or any of the other bogosities he transmitted in his columns over the decades.
Big irony: Tom White is no longer Secretary of the Army, and hasn’t been since April of 2003. Did Bush belatedly fire him for his Enron crookedness? Of course not. He was forced out for an act of principle and nobility, believe it or not — daring to try and keep Bush from invading Iraq.
Brian Ross reports on “Randy” Tobias:
Hmmm…just like ordering pizza? Is that with or without pepperoni, with or without whips?
Inquiring minds….
Brian Ross Report
Let us not forget Elizabeth Cheney now works in the Dept. of Homeland Security and State Dept. with an 80 million dollar budget to promote regime change in Iran.
While Cheneys son-in-law works to stop investigations of DHS.
Board of Directors, Foundation for the Future. For someone who’s inclined to dig, these are pretty comprehensive, although presumably sanitized, biographies.
George @ 21
he must take a lot of little blue pills
Is this the DC Madam’s website?
http://www.charleroipahsalumni…..icity.html
Was this ‘Naughty~Number’ on Tobias’ phone? The Lie Girls!
dreamcatcher @ 32
this is mean and nasty for me to say, so I’ll say it anyway, I think Rep. Mica likes to wield a little power in the bedroom
Fare thee well wherever thee may fare, ‘dogs. Till later…
bg @ 30
So..that means two post-happy-ending naps a day as well, doesn’t it?
When did he actually do any work?
If the topic of the week is sex work, won’t some TradMed outlet please circle back to JimmyJeff and the White House visits? Seems like there could be a tie-in to the Palfrey story.
LoudounLib @
7
That’s how he gets ready to lick his comb, which he just pulled out of one of the holes in his sock.
Ed*ard Teller @ 42
Gaaaahhhh!!!
Ed*ard Teller @ 42
PLEASE! I’m eating here
Phoenix Woman @ 31
I am flabbergasted. I thought columnists basically didn’t have to be fact-checked. Safire surely isn’t the only conservative columnist who spews falsehoods. A.maz.ing.
The Times hasn’t gone quite as far as the ComPost, but it sure has slid down the slope, hasn’t it?
ET: I will never forget that crap with the comb. Everytime I hear his name, I picture that. Ewwwwww.
Yea, 275.00 in 90 minutes or less.
Oh and Hold the S&M! (sausage and mushrooms of course)
cleter @ 40
Well, I guess that ends the question of how hard was her work?
If you asked me to come up with a name for a bogus foundation that was not going to actually do anything, and I didn’t have a lot of time to think about it, I might come up with something as lame as “Foundation for the Future.” What, were the names “James T. Kirk Foundation” and “Foundation for Happy Endings” already taken?
How about “Fuckery Foundation”?
Elliott @ 38
If they are really true to type it’s the other way around. The powerful usually like to be on the recieving end of ball gags, whips and chains. Just ask Bill Bennet… or his dominatrix.
dreamcatcher @ 32
He can go to any reputable DC massage therapist for $80 an hour. He doesn’t need to spend $275 an hour. I’m sure that for around $150 an hour, the reputable therapists would even come to visit him at his condo.
Jane,
If you’re still around – Verklemmt – German, rather than Yiddish spelling. IIRC, this guy’s an Aussie Industrial composer.
No No No!! It was the Foundation of No Fuckery.
And the toppings, Extra.
Their cynicism and nihilism are boundless. Hopefully more and more eyes will open over the next few months of “oversight.”
This is a perfect example of the Junta’s “Do as I say, not as I do” hypocrisy.
“Have they done this sort of thing before? Send an Amb to answer a question? Do we ordinarily send people out pro bono to work for us? Or did his wife send him on a junket?”
Mindboggling…just breathtakingly mindboggling…
Ok, can we please NOT use phrases like “Bill Bennet’s dominatrix” during the dinner hour? Please?
The Best Quotes From A Year Of Dick Morris Columns — 11/17/02 — 11/17/03
From RIGHT WING NEWS
Re: my post at 45 – I may have cut so much to avoid zigging/bandwith-hogging that it’s mysterious. If it’s confusing, just scroll up a bit to 31 to see PW’s response to my question.
Elliott @ 44
There is even a video of the comb licker in person on YouTube.
cleter @ 49
The funny thing is, there already was a ten-year old Foundation For the Future. Betcha they are pissed! The difference is that all of their F’s are capitalized; Condi’s child’s has a lowercase f in for.
noen @ 50
[my bold]
my my! thought it was just the gambling but apparently not!
PS: I learned how to do links at late night last night. Wooohooo
WRT the DC Madam, must be a lot of sore shoulders out there.
Ed*ard Teller @ 42
…And some say I should offer ’spew alerts’ for the tender eyes of the Lake
;>)
tejanarusa @ 45
Most aren’t. Except the liberal ones.
Not at all.
It sure has. Krugman, an opinion columnist, is held to a higher standard than Jeff Gerth, Stephen Labaton, or Judith Miller, while Safire and Kristol and all the other cons get to slap RNC talking points straight into print. (Oh, and I think Safire’s still on the Pulitzer committee.)
radiofreewill @ 55
Coming from someone whose children and child-in-laws are employed due to his nepotism (as is his own wife) Cheney’s scribbled comments take on more depth of field, don’t they?
Leopold’s book has the actual email correspondence between him and Krugman. Krugman says “I know it’s true but Howell Raines said I have to take a bullet for the company”
ccmask @ 62
I remember my first time!
I guess if anyone resigns this week, we know that they are on the list. Is that where the limo’s were taking them? Is this Hookergate or Madam gate, or one and the same. Where’s Hugh, I’m getting confused.
darkblack @
63
I can’t remember ever issuing a spew alert since I ran charter boats back in the early 1980s.
Wolfie, comblicker extraordinair
Elliott: It was so easy. I can’t believe how nervous I was to ear. My brain just can’t go and learn new technology stuff. I don’t know what I’m going to do when my son eventually moves out. I may have to start looking for a boyfriend or a future ex-husband.
TeddySanFran @ 65
Nepotism means never having to say, “You’re fired, dear…What’s for dinner?”
;>)
TeddySanFran @ 65
and yet, who in the MSM is holding his fat feet to the fire? Not.A.One
I’ll come out and say it: Shiha Riza was a spy, sent to tenderly implant ideas of cakewalk, flowers & candy, and oil revenues paying for Iraq reconstruction into Wolfie’s brain. The only real question is: for whom did she spy?
This administration was made possible with a generous grant from The Fuckery Foundation.
Great thread Phoenix!
Elliott @ 61
As I recall she was running for office and spilled the beans about her famous clientel. The MSM ignored it as usual.
TeddySanFran @ 73
I believe this, hard to understand it otherwise.
Elliott, re fat feet to the fire: You don’t think the NSA eavesdrops only on electeds, do you? TradMed’s complicity starts at the owners and flows downfill, aided where necessary by a DCMadam file or an NSA intercept.
The things Rove must know.
TeddySanFran @ 65
The clinical term is “projection“. Newt Gingrich is a prime example thereof, as he led the drive to impeach Clinton for having and hiding an affair even as he himself was having and hiding an affair.
I wonder how many foundations there are? Maybe we need to make a list, get some addresses and check up on them locally. No wonder why Pelosi said Impeachment was off the table. It’s more fun this way. Except I feel a little guilty sometimes going into hysterics everytime something else happens. I feel very unpatriotic.
And loving it!–Maxwell Smart
Phoenix Woman @ 51
Holding the anchovies probably costs extra.
Isn’t the silence from our side of the aisle on DCMadamgate a little frightening? Surely someone must feel the need to condemn Tobias for his hypocrisy?
ET at 42:
“
He’s getting ready to lick his comb, which he just pulled out of one of the holes in his sock.”
It seems to be a matter of gross mismanagement.
Is the slush fund account even earning intertest? In Chicago I heard over 10 yrs ago connected banks got to kept government funds in noninterest bearing accounts as payment for political contrabutions. Next Question which bank? Or is the government holding the money?
TeddySanFran @ 78
you’ve got me thinking, so I’m going to have to go look up how the madame ended up arrested in the first place.
Phoenix Woman @ 79
Newt Gingrich was a recipient of one of The Fuckery Foundation’s much-coveted Genius Grants. He was a Fuckery Fellow at the Fuckery Foundation. When he wasn’t busy getting divorced, of course.
Phoenix Woman @ 79
Does W talking about Saddam trying to kill his Dad fall into this category as well?
ccmask @ 80
I’m sitting right beside ya, sister!
bg @ 84
LOL BWAAAAAAAAA
RonD @
18
It is an economic argument. The Foxes make money by packaging opinion that’s wanted, trashing what’s not, and creating a “record” of unequivocal suport that influences voter support and helps win Congressional votes and elections.
The payback is not just traditional ad revenue. It comes via regulatory approvals for ownership of multi-media investments, for acquisitions and mergers and friendly operating regulations, and for removing regulations, which is what enabled Clear Channel to gobble up a thousand stations in five years and transform radio. That’s one billion-dollar company that didn’t exist a few years ago.
To paraphrase Carl Sagan, collectively, that payback is worth billions and billions, some of which dutifully makes it back to Republicans via campaign support, think tank support, lucrative out-of-office jobs for politicos and top aides, bonuses, speaking fees, ad nauseum. Even programs, like ABC’s commercial-free broadcast of a Republican whet dream version of 9/11.
If Joe McCarthy had had access to that vicious circle of corruption, he’d still be president. (If he hadn’t drank himself to death first.)
TeddySanFran @ 83
Boy, TSF, ain’t it the truth. The first one that gets up and publicly condemns it must be dc madam free.
ccmask @ 70
[my bold]
no need to ruin your life! There’s always the Geek Squad for ‘puter maintenance ;)
Frank33 @
29
Thank you for that treat, Frank!
BaNa2….BaNa2….BaNa2 Banana, Banana, Banana Republic!!!
GOOOOOO ELEPHANTS!! RAH! RAH! RAH!!!!!
I was going to ask if you were single? lol
ccmask @ 91
I fear that the Speaker’s silence might indicate not her own patronage (hahahaha!!!), but knowledge thereof about her team. Shudder
earlofhuntingdon @
91
excellent points @ #91, earl, but I thought President McCarthy died of food poisoning after licking his comb.
ccmask @ 67
I also tried a bit of checking if Duke Cunningham-Wilkes and Shirlington Limo were linked up with Pamela Martin. (I have a few fantasies myself.) There is no direct connection that I found. But here are a couple of interesting linkies.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002094.php
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..complaint/
OfT:
As Dick Nixon once famously proclaimed within earshot of his dear wife: America can’t stand pat!
cleter @ 86
he’s just a fuker
TSF at 65
To me, Cheney’s attitude towards former Amb. Wilson reflects an ideological view of the world – one that seemingly cuts across all boundaries – including within his own Government!
Poor Joe Wilson found out he wasn’t “one of us,” but instead “one of them.” The practical consequence being – in Cheney’s and the Neo-con’s minds there are two standards for the world – the “wink and nod, everything’s okay” for ‘us’ and the “scheming evil ba*tards” for ‘them.’
Cheney’s extended family lounging over-long on the public teat is *okay* – but that huckster Wilson, he’s *stealing* from the taxpayer with his wife’s conniving help!
To Cheney, that makes perfect sense.
Olmert just can’t learn to keep quiet:
A rain of missiles could degrade Iran’s nuclear programme and set it back years, a German weekly quoted Israel’s prime minister as saying, sparking a warning from Tehran that such a strike would be a dangerous “error”.
“It may not be possible to destroy all of the Iranian nuclear programme, but it is possible to damage to in such a way it would be set back several years,” Ehud Olmert was quoted as saying in Focus magazine in an interview to be published on Monday.
“It’s technically feasible. It would require 10 days and the launch of a thousand Tomahawk missiles,” he said, according to excerpts made available on Saturday.
link.
PW have you seen the emails from the Abramoff investigation? I just ran across them. Here is the link if you haven’t seen them. Going to leave a message for EW and a link.
she is working on a multiple post about Indian Country/Attorney firings. test
lolo
teeheehee i learned how to post an embedded link to!
http://www.newsfollowup.com/do…..tach_1.pdf
Is our lolos learning?
TeddySanFran @ 97
Or at least the suspicion that in the huge rolodex of patrons, there are bound to be a couple of Dems.
I suspect that some of the silence is because this broke on Friday afternoon, and some is due to people trying to come up with a way to say something about Tobias that won’t come back to haunt them when a Dem shows up on the front pages next.
A thousand Tomahawk missiles. Right. We launch a thousand Tomahawk missiles. And then…what? They just take it? Everything is all better, then?
TeddySanFran @ 73
Remember the Katrina Leung story? This sounds oh-so-familiar.
Hoping BC isn’t on the list. Bite my tongue.
TeddySanFran @ 105
Yes.
Enough of the comb licking gags…yuck
Is Olmert applying for one of the Fuckery Foundation’s Genius Grants? I thought Wolfowitz had a lock on it this year, but Olmert’s proposal is pretty strong.
May I please add a word of co-commenter-considerate advice for the newly-learned comment embedders?
It’s considered polite to those whose computers are pdf-incapable or pdf-slow, to indicate with: (pdf) when one’s links are pdfs. That way, the non-enabled won’t click on them. I’m not sure what damage is caused to those non-pdf-capable computers, but it’s a convention folks do follow. Also, (large pdf) is sometimes used….
TeddySanFran @ 82
They’re too busy working on the latest DoJ document dump, to see if Monica Goodling left any other incriminating bread crumbs.
TeddySanFran @ 113
ok sorry thought of that!
TeddySanFran @ 83
Yes it is. This is a double-edge sword, I’m afraid. I would love it if it was all republicans, but…
The United States contributed almost two-thirds of the foundation’s $56 million budget…
What I could do with $56 million. And it wouldn’t take me two years to get started either. Hey folks, that’s against the law. Foundations have to give out money in the first year or suffer penalties.
For reference, all of our work to date has cost a mere five million including building an entire new ICU and operating rooms.
Fifty-six million….
I quote my Russian colleague: “If I would react, I would be finished long ago. We endure.”
Frank33 @ 99
[my bold]
on page 4, section 9: The Facts, it says in around June 2004, the IRS and the USPS learned through financial records and interviews with her male clients that she was running a business of prostitution
sorry -can’t cut & paste from that page >:|
PW:
Remember it? I’d never even heard of it! Thanks! Another puzzle piece.
cleter @
112
Those grants can be even more competitive than the Medal of Freedom, though. But, HEY! – Olmert’s establishing a pretty good record:
Screws up the Hizbolah War
Creates the biggest oilspill in the history of the Mediterranean
kills over a thousand innocent Lebanese civilians
Blurts out that his country has nuclear weapons after decades of predecessors’ “no comments.”
Blurts out his Iranian war plans
Sally @
109
Bite my tongue too — but recall Mark Warner’s odd exit from the Democratic Prez race about six months ago? Recall Russ’s? And recall Nancy Pelosi’s bucking next-in-line Steny Hoyer to support Murtha as her Majority Leader?
I am requesting as of immediately State Dept. funds to the tune of 56 million dollars to support my solo endeavor; FOUNDATION FOR MY FUTURE!
If calling up the madam was like ordering a pizza, then what was ordering a pizza like?
What is Paul Wolfowitz trying to find up his nose, his morals?
If there is a just God, the Democrats on The Madame List will be limited to Joe Lieberman and the Blue Dog Caucus.
-GSD
P.S. Et tu Ehud? He’s make Bush look almost ept.
Sally @ 108
I don’t think he is, for the simple reason that this would have been leaked by now. Also, it sounds as if Monica Lewinsky was his only indiscretion in the White House. Plus, Bill Clinton never had to pay for sex in his life — women to this day literally hurl themselves at him like cruise missiles.
As for other Democrats: If there are any on the list — which there could be: Fake Democrat Toesucker Dick Morris has been asked by Palfrey to testify at her trial, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see former congressman Gary Condit there — it’s from the Clinton era — Bush and his buddies did a very effective job of purging the top levels of the Federal government of Democrats.
An, if the presence of Toesucker Dick is a clue, the Democrats likely to be on that list are ones we’re best off without any way.
Okay. Who’s BC? (I sound like cassie now…)
Ept is a great word.
ccmask @ 127
Mr Junior Senator from NY, Hillary’s hub.
Phoenix Woman @ 126
Maybe we should throw Bill over to Iran 1000 times.
FOUNDATION FOR MY FUTURE will be creating nifty bumper stickers that say Support Hezbollah & You Support a Gay Whale!!!…because only together can we create a future……for me……
I remember a quote from a DC prostitute years ago. I had clipped it from a paper at the time but I had lost it.
It went something like this: Yeah, I’ve had Democrats and Republicans for customers. the Democrats were usually pretty much in for a straigh romp, the Republicans were usually into the kinkiest acts imaginable.
Anyone suprised?
-GSD
Loo Hoo @ 115
Thing is, the Democrats don’t generally jump on Republicans when they’re down (even when they should). Yeah, there’s also probably the sense of “let’s wait and see who’s on the list before we throw stones”, but seriously — I can’t see ABC holding back news of any prominent and current Democrats being on the list, can you? They would have released that first.
And as I just said, if there are any Democrats on the list, I suspect they are, like Dick Morris (who isn’t even a Democrat), ones we are better off without.
GSD @ 132
“I totally resent that remark.”
- ‘Pastor’ Jimmy Swaggart
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 131
I’ll answer the phones!
ccmask @ 127
Bill Clinton
GSD @ 132
The Republicans need for help expressing their sexuality by using call girls is also bound up with their hair styling issues. Both are scary.
12:30- watergate hotel- newt gingrich
12:45- watergate hotel- bob ney
1:00 -watergate hotel- maf54 (bring lifeguard)
more on how she ended up arrested:
WP article
Phoenix Woman @ 133
For my $.02: I think Dems feel that stuff like this SHOULD fall into the “nunya” category, so they don’t condemn it as readily as the fundies.
Got it. Thanks loohoo
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 138
AND with time for a sandwich between newt and ney
Okay elliott @135; after the state dept. ‘grants’ roll in you’re on phones.
20 mil to start okaY?
I have often thought that if George W Bush was an intelligent person, he would announce on teevee one day, “My fellow Americans, I am going to Tehran.” Just like Nixon did with China, and Watergate, but in reverse order (scandals first, then legacy-preserving foreign policy gambit) this one announcement, and followthrough (always the tough part for BushCo) could change the dynamic completely. It would cement his legacy, end the IraqWar, and enshrine him as a MiddleEast peacemaker.
Won’t happen, but should. W is uniquely qualified to make the trip: just as Nixon’s rabid anti-communism and “who-lost-China” closed our State Dept to China hands and isolated the US from the Chinese for a generation, W’s Dad’s October Surprise (keeping the US hostages in Tehran until St. Ronnie’s inaugural) and his own “Axis of Evil” makes him the single most appropriate American leader to open a real dialogue by going to Tehran.
As Peking was to Nixon, Tehran is to Bush43.
GSD @ 131
I’m not. It’s long been a truism in DC circles that Democrats (who are usually way underfunded compared to Republicans) are obsessed with and are concerned about money, whereas Republicans are obsessed with sex and are thus notorious (and kinky) horndogs.
That’s why I seriously doubt that many Democrats (besides Dick Morris, who really isn’t a Dem) will be on this list: It’s all about the kink. And if Palfrey was truly running this as a straight no-sex domination service (dommes don’t go down on their clients, nor do they allow them to engage in anything where his penis comes near her genitals), it could very well be that there was no “actual sex” involved.
Oh, and one thing that fantasy dommes don’t do is give ‘massages’ to their clients. If anything, they’d make the clients give massages to them.
TeddySanFran @ 144
Given the Chimp’s unerring sense of direction, he’d announce he was going to Tehran and wind up in Timbuktu.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 143
Hmm…
I suppose, but can I have Hearing Days off?
Uh oh. The Wingnuts are already challenging Tenet’s book.
“Have you been a bad boy? Did you cheat the carpet seller on those 5 rugs?”
dakine01 @ 140
while I don’t care who sleeps with whom, this is a situation ripe for bribery, blackmail and so forth, so it’s not nothing. That’s the harm.
plus the spread of STDs to unwitting spouses or partners
Loo Hoo @ 148
Of course they are.
Here’s a challenge for them: Ask Condi to go and say under oath what she said today on the Sunday talks.
Seems like Ms. Palfrey has put up a website
http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/
She’s also put up some phone numbers from 1996.
She also has the originals of these phone records. She gave ABC copies. This girl has been around!
TeddySanFran @
113
Clicking on a pdf link won’t cause any damage, what will happen is with older PCs or slower connections is that it will s..l..o..w… things down to a crawl.
Foxit Reader is said to be less resource hungry than Adobe.
Ed*ard Teller @ 120
next we’ll find him bound and gaged in some alley in El Salvador
I hope you are right about the Dems and the Madam, PW. But I worry that ABCNews is first hanging the GOP names out, hoping for a Dem to condemn them. Then, Ross springs his trap with a major Dem name.
The WaPo story quotes Palfrey’s attorney saying that he’s gotten calls from five lawyers of folks who know they are on the list and can there be an accommodation made? That sounds like GOP hush money to me.
An RGJoe trap would be too sweet for words, although the GOP CT governor would appoint his replacement (etc, etc, etc)
“Are you on the DCMadam’s list, Senator [Congressman][Mr Secretary] [General]?” seems like a perfectly logical question, but it won’t get asked, ever.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 151
707!!
Just in case anyone calls Dick Morris a Dem….
Political Consulting
Morris makes the claim that he is a bipartisan consultant even though as a media consultant he tends to work for Republicans. In addition to his work with Democrats like Bill Clinton, he has also worked for Republicans, such as U.S. Senators Trent Lott, Jesse Helms, and Paula Hawkins, as well as former governors William Weld of Massachusetts, Pete Wilson of California, and Mike Huckabee of Arkansas. As early as 1988, he has said, he decided to work only for Republicans, a claim he reiterated in 1995; his role in Clinton’s 1992 campaign and presidency was kept secret from the staff. He is not believed to have worked as a U.S. political strategist since the scandal of 1996, possibly because of candidates’ fears that their choice of consultant would cause bad publicity.
Morris has recently re-entered US Political Consulting by signing on as the head strategist for Billy Harper’s campaign for Governor of Kentucky during the 2007 election cycle.
He has now formed a career of sorts as a political commentator and critic of the Clintons (particularly towards Hillary), primarily appearing on Fox News programs such as Hannity & Colmes, the O’Reilly Factor, and various local and nationally syndicated radio talk shows. Morris is also a regular columnist for NewsMax.com, a conservative online news website. [6]
Morris further wrote that Hurricane Katrina would mark Bush’s second term the same way 9/11 marked his first term, saying: “Katrina has the capacity to shape the second Bush term in the same way Sept. 11 shaped his first term — not only in rebuilding New Orleans but in taking preventative steps around the nation to bolster our defenses against natural and man-made disasters and terror strikes. Responding to disasters is a source of presidential strength and popularity, and Bush is about to show how it is done.”
dick’s wiki page
TeddySanFran @ 158
I see him more in the gannon group
Elliott @ 152
I understand what you’re saying. But I’m one of those weird types who feels that embarrassment is not a good enough reason to allow oneself to be blackmailed.
When I lived in upstate NY (Rome), I had a state Senator who started as a Dem (she eventually switched parties becuz she got tired of being in the minority in Albany). The story was when she first ran for the senate seat against an incumbent Republic, it came out that she had been a “go-go dancer” at one time. The Republics started blasting her, figuring she’d give it up. Instead, she called a presser and said, “Yep! I was a go-go dancer. And a damned good one too.”
Blew ‘em out of the water by confronting it instead of hiding and whining. And she kept the seat until the election after she bacame a Republic herself.
hwmnbn says
That’s a LOT of phone numbers….
http://www.anywho.com/rl.html
ccmask @ 159
thanks for reminding us how much of a dem he really is.
ten more minutes til sixty minutes here
Elliott @ 142
Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in a few days.
ccmask @ 158
I can’t stand to listen to the guy. And it’s not just what he says, it’s the way he rolls the words around in his mouth before they come out.
It’s beginning to dawn on me that the Republicans are cultural relativists.
Deborah J. (Jeane) Palfrey’
You know, she has a point. And if she really kept it strictly in the “Fantasy” realm, aka BDSM with no sexual contact. Maybe she’ll even win her case.
Clearly, y’all don’t understand Shaha’s talents. Forget the cherry stem trick—she can turn a paperclip into a… woops! I’ve said too much.
man, those are some UGLY mo****fu****s you have pictured up there, PW.
Is the blonde chick La Cheney the Het? I have not seen her pictured b4.
And when, indeed, is the newest little Cheney due to arrive in this wonderful state where Mrs. Mary will have no parental rights? Is Grandma gonna read him bedtime stories from her 1980 girlporn classic?
If the Cheneys were any more serpentine, they’d be slithering around on their bellies.
OT
but Holy Moly!
Oakland freeway collapse -no deaths
Cozumel @ 160
That’s a LOT of phone numbers….
http://www.anywho.com/rl.html
What, am I supposed to check all these numbers??? LOL
Phoenix Woman @ 15
Paul is a certified academic, and does the peer review thing. Once you’ve been through that mill, your twice times careful. I don’t think he gives a pig’s ass whether they try to hold him to a standard or not. Any standard they might set is likely to be below the one he sets for hiomiself.
Veritas78 @ 169
I don’t know, I think TeddySanFran @ 74 and Charles @ 22 are on to something
hwmnbn @ 170
What, am I supposed to check all these numbers??? LOL
I checked ONE at random ; )
202 328-2000
Marriott Wardmanpark Hotel LOL
Englewood Colorado, hmmmmm
LOL!
Dial this for a new thread.
oddmommy @ 168
Mary Cheney will have parental rights as she will bear the child, unless Virginia has gone completely around the bend with regard to laws about lesbians’ parenting. It is, I believe, Ms. Heather Poe, Ms. Cheney’s partner, who will lack a legal bond with their child in Virginia.
another one
Phoenix Woman @
133
Lieberman and Carville?
Oklahoma kiddo @
165
No, they are not. They are moral relativists, which is a very different thing.
TPM on Ravi
Should have known he was all over it long ago.
Great Post PW! Had you seen the Sidney Blumenthal article. Wolfie’s sweetie “Shaha Ali Riza, is a Libyan, raised in Saudi Arabia, educated at Oxford, who now has British citizenship. She is divorced; he is separated.”
That makes Wolfie an adulterer. But also somehow he improperly got a Security Clearance for his “mistress”.
noen @
174
Isn’t Tancredo from Englewood? Oh, jeez, all our prayers answered in CD6!
Josh Marshall now on with Moyers. Ch 13, NY area.
snark_in_upstate @
14
that a “pizza ass?”
TeddySanFran @
100
reminds me of the line about how Dick needed to see “Deep Throat” 4 times before he got it down pat
Mabel’s Wig Shack @
149
no, Lindsey’s just a latent interior designer
When are we going to hear about Jeff Gannon’s White House fantasy dates?
conniptionfit @ 179
Oh Goddess please yes! If Lieberman is on Palfrey’s client list I will sacrifice a ram to Isis or something like that. (Though Carville doesn’t strike me as the sort to blatantly screw around on anyone, much less anyone as capable of revenge as Mary Matalin. Remember who her boss is — it’s Liz Cheney’s dad.)
conniptionfit @ 183
Hahahahahahaha!
By the way: Here’s Larry Flynt — who ought to know — on who thinks about what in DC:
And as I’ve said earlier, it’s because — up until very recently — the Democrats had an extreme funding disadvantage compared to the Republicans. (The K Street Project of Grover Norquist’s and Tom DeLay’s, in addition to being a money-laundering scheme, was also a shakedown scheme where entities that donated to Democrats were severely punished for doing so.)
By the way: Here’s Larry Flynt — who ought to know — on who thinks about what in DC:
And as I’ve said earlier, it’s because — up until very recently — the Democrats had an extreme funding disadvantage compared to the Republicans. (The K Street Project of Grover Norquist’s and Tom DeLay’s, in addition to being a money-laundering scheme, was also a shakedown scheme where entities that donated to Democrats were severely punished for doing so.)
Back home again in Indiana, where I live, there is NOTHING in the papers to rattle our perfect Sunday with the news that our former Eli Lilly CEO ( you can’t get bigger than that in this state! No, not even Peyton Manning!) used a …. (yuk!) “lady of the night.”
My son-in-law, the Lilly executive, had his jaw on the floor upon hearing the news!
Hee! Hee! Hee!
darkblack @
24
sort of like Mandi in Animal House…have to use rubber gloves
Hey, somebody’s gotta track down all the phone numbers. Isn’t it our civic duty to do the job you know MSM isn’t going to touch with rubber gloves?
Amazing!
I thought you all supported a women’s choice to use her boday as she see’s fit.
Why was it ok when Bill did it for free?
Phoenix Woman @
145
Maybe in the prossie world this is true. But not for non-prossie dommes.
Um. True. :)
Jim @
195
You have heard of this thing called consent have you not? If two (or more) adults want to bang each other, more power to ‘em. Not my business.
When money for sex enters the equation, consent becomes more complex. Is the prostitute really having sex with the person because she wants to…or is it because she’ll starve or be beaten if she doesn’t?
Prostitution is always complicated by a host of other factors that have little to do with genuine consent. Most prostitutes are not prostitutes by choice. Let’s face it, it’s the rare person who would look at options in life and say, “Well, I have this scholarship for medical school to become a doctor…or I could be a hooker. I’ll be a hooker!”
Capisce?
Here’s another little sex-scandal of a sort. Republican Congressman Don Young single-handedly blocked legislation that would have made Saipan, an American protectorate, subject to U.S. labor standards. Instead, garments with “Made in the USA” labels are produced by women who are virtual slaves, often also forced into prostitution, and then, if they should become pregnant, forced to have abortions.
But Don Young’s days may be numbered. I wrote about it last week in Don Young which was updated in Who knew? The Anchorage Daily News is picking up the story as I reported in The scoop on Don Young.
Check it out on What we know so far …
“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”
Danger, danger!
DC Madame == Bright Shiny Object!
If you were W, wouldn’t you rather have the Left (and CNN) breathlessly chattering about Randall Tobias’s “massages” than keeping their eyes on the Abu Gonzales follies?
drbonzo @
198
We can do both, dear. We are vast; we contain multitudes.
Big Mitch @
197
Go get ‘em, Mitch!
What does Young use for a campaign slogan, anyway? “Don Young: Not Quite As Senile As Ted Stevens”?