“Two Iraqi women risked their lives to make this film, recording what life is like for Iraqi civilians and the heroic efforts of Iraqi women doctors and nurses.” You can view it via the Google video above or at BrasscheckTV. Special thanks to MarkfromIreland for pointing me to this video.
For another view – from the US troops perspective – take a look at this new video up on YouTube showing the activities of US troops – from today’s ICH update.
It’s been a particularly sad week in Iraq. While Tenet plays CYA instead of taking responsibility for the launch of the invasion and the MSM continues their “It’s all about us” mode of coverage, you have to look hard to find news of the murders of four more Red Crescent workers and harder to learn that US forces were bombing Baghdad for three hours this morning:
The Iraqi capital awoke to a series of loud detonations on Sunday as US artillery pounded targets in the violent southwest districts of the city. “Eighteen rounds of artillery were fired from Forward Operating Base Falcon,” said US spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Chris Garver, without identifying the target of a salvo that could be heard 10 kilometres (six miles away). Occasional blasts could still be heard three hours after they began, and Garver could not say whether or not the operation would continue. Falcon is a US base in the Rasheed district of south Baghdad, surrounded by neighbourhoods that have seen some of the bloodiest attacks on civilians and fiercest fighting between rival gangs in Iraq’s sectarian war. Shockwaves rumbled over the city and blasts were audible in the heart of the war-torn capital, which has seen no let up in insurgent bomb attacks despite a 10-week-old security operation by Iraqi and US forces.
While our media makes certain we do not hear about these bombs falling today on Iraqi neighborhoods, conditions – particularly for the women and children who live in those neighborhoods – continue to worsen. When will we be told the real stories? The stories of the women in the video or of women like “Amal al-Mudarris, a well known and loved radio journalist and announcer is reported to be in ’semi-stable’ condition following emergency surgery for a brain injury caused by a bullet.”
Even in the reporting on the latest UN Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI) report on Human Rights in Iraq, we heard about the refusal by the Iraqi government to release real casualty numbers (which might show what a compete failure the US “surge” is) but the actual conditions reported have gotten almost no attention. As Human Rights Watch summarizes:
The UN report released today covers the first three months of 2007. It documents serious human rights abuses by insurgents and various armed groups, including the targeting of civilians, law enforcement personnel, and government officials. The report cites some improvements by the Iraqi government but it criticizes the authorities for the ongoing use of torture and possible collusion between armed militias and Iraqi security forces.
Amongst the concerns the UNAMI report (pdf – see p. 17 for coverage on women’s issues) mentions are the increase in honor killings, particularly in Kurdish regions of Iraq:
In the governorates of Erbil, Duhok and Sulaimainiya, women’s right to life and personal security remained of serious concern to UNAMI, given the high incidence of “honor killings” and other abuses against women. According to the newspaper portal source, Awena, injuries and deaths by immolation and suspected honor crimes were on the rise. In its 27 January issue, Awena reported on data gathered by the Duhok criminal court and the Duhok Azadi Hospital, revealing that in the governorate, there were 289 burns cases resulting in 46 deaths recorded in 2005, and 366 burns cases resulting in 66 deaths recorded in 2006. In most cases, the extent of injuries and overall circumstances appeared to exclude routine claims of accidents or suicides.
And Amnesty International calls attention in particular to the recent stoning of a 17 year old girl:
Du’a Khalil Aswad’smurder is said to have been committed by relatives and other Yezidimen because she had engagedin a relationship with a Sunni Muslim boy and had been absentfrom her home for one night. Some reports suggested that she had converted to Islam, but others deny this. Initially, she was reportedly givenshelter in the house of a Yezidi tribal leader in Bashika, but her killersstormed the house, took her outside and stoned her to death. Her death bystoning, which lasted for some30 minutes, was recordedon video film which was thenwidely distributed and is available on the internet. The film reportedly shows that members of local security forces were present but failed to intervene to prevent the stoning or arrest those responsible.
Amnesty has launched a campaign to Stop Violence Against Women with a particular focus on violence against women in conflict zones like Iraq. You can help out by joining AIs efforts here. And you can support the efforts of Red Crescent whose workers – even in the face of horrific danger – continue to provide essential relief to the people of Iraq here (select Iraq Humanitrian Aid in the contribution box.) And please make time to watch the video – the women who made this film deserve to be heard and we need to know the real story.
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Suin!
ha!
ZED?
first?
nololo
Zed Queen will be back after the Sopranos.
lolo @ 5
Hit and run
Evening gang – just got that Youtube … watch it
snowbird42 @ 7
still lurking
OK, you win.
On to more serious matters. Sending artillery shells into heavily populated areas
is basically admitting that the game is lost.
It’s what Russia did in Grozny at the end.
Poor Tony. I really dislike Blair. Almost as much as George.
Lord Kinnock described Mr Blair’s close association with George Bush as a “tragedy”. “It’s a tragedy that in the short term at least all of [his] advances, some of them genuinely worthy of the name historic, will be clouded, even possibly obscured, by the association with Bush,” he said.
He added that Mr Blair was badly let down by President Bush. “Blair has offered intelligence, wisdom, reasonability, and it hasn’t been reciprocated until very, very recently by the Bush administration, and only then when they’ve got themselves into a serious jam and encountered political defeat.”
LOLO!!!!
It is HORRIBLE HORRIBLE that they treat girls like that. Did they stone the boy she had sex with?
Thanks, Siun!
The sad thing is that the people who most need to see this, never will.
Hello from Austin, TX. Siun, yer killin’ me over here. Bush must go.
I want out of Iraq now. I want a Palestinian homeland and dignity for the Palestinian people. I want the Democrats to act like Democrats. Pretty radical stuff. Might even lead to peace.
Thanks for this post Siun. I’m going to watch the video tomorrow morning. I’m feeling overwhelmed today. Honestly, I can’t get too worked up about the Hooker thing. Compared to what is going on in Iraq it’s just more hypocrisy.
On earlier threads there were links to pictures of civilian casualties, and I made myself look at some. I think we need to know what our government is doing in our name. And I looked at one picture of a little kid and found myself praying that that child was dead – that he did not survive his wounds.
I just feel sick about it today. Tomorrow though, I’ll watch your video, and thanks.
Oilfieldguy @ 16
In the baja again?
Reid and Pelosi,
Get us out to save Iraq.
Thank you.
Loo Hoo @ 20
And to save the rest of the world.
Oklahoma kiddo @
19
It’s Baja Oklahoma but it’s Texas in your soul. Or somethin’ li’e dat.
Phoenix Woman @
15
Every day great sites like FDL with great contributors/team members like you attract more and more readers/viewers who then show it to their friends/family. It may not be exponential growth in awareness Phoenix Woman… But thanks to work like you all do here at the lake, it is growth in awareness.
Great piece Siun. I’m going to have to send that second link with the YouTube video compilation of the raids to several people.
The solution to a lot of the world’s current problems is simply stated but breathtakingly complex in execution: Replace oil as an energy source.
hmmmmmm blair then bush………intelligence, got none, wisdom-what’s that???-reasonability-would have to cut out the mood swings. reciprocated-well, that would be for those underlings………don’t gotta do anything in that reciprocatin’ world….it’s all about me-(bush)
been gone a week, what the hell did i miss??????? LOTS!!!!!!
been lookin’ back through the week, man, did i miss a lot…….had fun though…….
bedtime soon, travelled today on the road…….hi everybody at the lake……….swimmin’ is good!!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Siun shines where so few will dare go. Someday Siun, we will greet each other on a Sunday evening in peacetime with only tears of joy.
But for now with kleenex in one hand may I ask what the hell is “honor killings” ?? Sorry, am on dial-up so if the answer lies in a video its beyond my hillbilly bandwidth..
“Look at how the American taxpayer money is being spent.”
SnarKassandra @ 20
Do you think they will blink and give in to Bush? We cannot let them.
siun=forgot to add because it is such a ‘given’
things are so disgusting in iraq that my own parents are venting about it, the people and what they must be going through………the entire week i was there and week before last when i was there…….they are fdr democrats and totally disgusted and wanting to do something.
RonD @ 24
That makes way too much sense.
RonD, I dropped off something continuing that topic around 278 of the last thread, if you’re interested.
No need to invade oil-producing countries then. We can just ruin their credit..
Eureka … it looks like I may have an extra day soon in your neck of the woods … will fill you in when I get details.
back to reality – so called honor killings are murders of women for acting in ways that are thought to harm the “honor” of their families – flirting with boys, having an affair, you name it.
What was striking to me in the reports is that honor killings are apparently becoming more prevalent – and seemingly tolerated/accepted – in the Kurdish regions which our govt and media seem to always point to as such successes.
‘dragon, I’m absolutely interested. Let me go check it out-brb.
If I were an Iraqi in Iraq, I would fight the occupiers and those killing my women and children and stealing my country’s wealth, with everything I could get my hands on.
RonD – interesting comment. I spent last week at a conference for work discussing just that. I hope to write a post about it as soon as the conference folks put up some video and transcripts.
It is essential that we cut our carbon emissions by 80% by the year 2050 – not volutary, essential – and only Edwards so far has supported the call.
Check out http://stepitup2007.org/ for more.
dmac – so many of us are disgusted … I am hoping the congress gets the picture and not only stands firm but pushes further. Even the supplemental is a joke in my mind … esp when we see what our troops are doing.
Honor killings are a kind of vendetta. It is the killing of a woman, typically by her family for having brought “dishonor” on her family.
From a western perspective, it is scapegoating a woman and killing her to assuage a man’s embarrassment and guilt. The physical equivalent of making Eve bear the sole burden for having a life full of toil rather than effortless bliss. Except that it is an immediate and brutal loss of life.
It’s important to realize that women were in a much better place in Iraq until recently … there’s a good report at Human Rights Watch on women in Iraq before the invasion:
HRW
In a related story: The “Pleasure Marriages” of Iraq
P’dragon, you just dropped me through the looking glass. I’ve written about Northwoods, and I knew about Ajax, but all this? I obviously have a lot of research to do. Thanks. The concentration of knowledge and intelligence at this site is why I hang out here. BTW, Aunt Betsy & Cassie, you’re very kind. Thank you.
My brother pretends he would kill me if I ever had sex before I graduate high school, but I know in reality he would probably ground me or something. I am glad I don’t live in a muslim country.
OilfieldGuy – good to see you!
and jealous of your Austin time! did you get to Eeyore’s Birthday Party? a fave Austin event for my son there .. quite the party as the day moves into night.
Siun @ 39
and the likes of Reuel Gerecht think the loss of freedoms for women is mere collateral damage for what really matters.
Snarkassadra – not all Muslims by any means believe in honor killings and in fact, many argue that they are against the teachings of Mohammed.
Cassie, you don’t want to find out. That’s a subject about which older brothers are not always entirely rational.
And the women in America were in a better way before George Bush and the rest of this circus of horrors took over. The most recent example of this being the SCOTUS ruling a week ago.
“Circus of Horrors”. Language I can only envy.
snark_in_upstate @
10
Important point – though as you’ll see in the video The Women’s War – shelling civilians is a common tactic.
Siun,
Can’t watch any more. This breaks my heart.
ok kiddo
oh my i had blocked that out…….thanks. it ain’t over till it’s over……….just wait till someone dies, then it’ll be back on the books…….how many times has that been said, just wait till somebody dies………then we all stand shocked, as it is done again and again, many more die, then take a stand…….same as iraq…….
same as anything that defies comprehension or explanation and is done in the name of progress……..then dies of it’s own evil…….and the spellbound wake up and take over. it ‘ain’t’ done yet.
Yeah, me neither. I’ll watch it tomorrow. I have depression overoad already. It is just unbelievable all of the ramnifications of this godess war. Who will save them?
ccmask @ 52
I don’t watch violence on TV. Especially REAL violence and especially against women.
OT, but, from the Sydney Morning Herald:
Me either Cassie. I don’t like science fisction either and that’s why I can’t spell it..
those of you who are depressed need to do what my sister calls “blow the stink off”
take a drive, out in the country, get out a map and go there……….it helps.
blow the stink off, mentally and physically………..
it’s spring, go out and smell it………blow the stink off, then get back to it………
Anyone have the Google link so I can watch a bigger-screen version? Thanks.
Petro – which? the link above in the video is the Google video source.
Folks who have not watched The Women’s War yet should know that it’s just daily life. Our sisters there live it everyday.
I have been trying to keep up with the numbers reported killed this week with little success. I noticed several MSM reports on the walls with little question of them or placement in historical context. Sounds like they are going up no matter what.
Another mosque bombed?
Although I am so frustrated and want the killing occupation to end yesterday.. After a few weeks of watching Senator Mark Pryor and listening to his reasoning (madness) for voting with the neo nuts. A few of us in AR are hammering local papers and blogs with facts on Pryor with some success. (He voted with the party, finally, and for all the wrong reasons but I’ll take it.)
We are damned lucky to have some binding in our timetables this week. Pelosi and Reid did what they could. The tide of blood is changing.
If Bush vetos and everyone thinks he will, I hope Speaker and Leader won’t back down one small bit. We need to drum loud support during this limbo time, so they will know for sure to stay with the exit plan and possibly draw an end closer with every stall tactic Bush plays.
After watching Moyers this week it occurred to me the way the Thugs and media repeated little sound bites 9-11 9-11 9-11, we just have to repeat no no no at least what, 6 of their ten times in order to cause a wake up moment, negate it all, and start with some factual based reality?
/end rant when the killing ends, promise. lol
Petro @ 57
LINK
Hail and well met, everybody. Just got back a couple of hours ago from an archaeologists’ conference in Austin, TX that seemed regrettably light on substance but turned out to be professionally exciting for me anyway. (Sadly, I missed Eeyore’s birthday. I hope somebody brought a broken balloon and an empty pot.)
ccmask @ 55
When I die, I want to donate my body to science fiction.
Siun,
Thank you for this post and the videos. I feel so bad for the Iraqi people. This is so wrong.
lolo
EvilDrPuma @ 62
And I had to miss meeting you cause I had someplace else I had to be! Did you like Austin? We had good weather for you.
ccmask @ 55
But you like the Sopranos…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ut_Xmm2VZA
And I do too ; )
SnarKassandra @ 65
I thought Austin was pretty nice. I’m not really interested in moving to Texas, but if I had to, I could cope with Austin. I was sorry to not get to meet you, too, but Aunt Betsy and your cousin were a lot of fun. You’ve got good people.
Power to the people of Iraq!
Siun @ 43
No such luck. Always bear in mind that my wagon is hitched to a ginormous pump to supply an addicted nation. The state issues me a permit that tells me what roads I can drive on. Although the hold harmless clause says that my permit is no guarantee that I will fit under bridges, bridges I drive over will hold me up, or my width won’t cause me to wedge like a cork in a bottle. Ultimate responsibility is always on the driver.
This is why I make the big bucks. Looking forward to seeing you in Chicago.
eureka
/end rant when the killing ends, promise. lol
evil dr
When I die, I want to donate my body to science fiction.
and i perceive that i was on the road today and perceived a few beers when i got home………
siun, i cannot comprehend what people are going through in iraq, it torments me when i think about it, that’s what tells me it will end, and what will happen then? that they will do what they can, and hopefully by then there will be a more direct way that i can help by then………internet and all. i so hope.
George Tenant is a liar.
Time to start on my homework for tomorrow. :) See ya later!
EvilDrPuma,
I share your fair city this evening. I am at the south end of town at the junction of I-35 and SH 71–Days Inn.
Oilfieldguy @ 73
Welcome! How long will you be here?
dmac – that’s why I put up the Red Crescent link. For many people in Iraq, Red Crescent is the only source of food … they are doing astonishing work and supporting them (even with small donations) is a direct, concrete way we can help now. Their teams have come under a lot of pressure and threats from US forces – so it seems to me we should at least help them keep trying to save people’s lives at risk of their own.
G’night, Cassie. Strive to see clearly.
Just tonight. I am headed south of San Antonio to a leetle barrio named George West. I shuck my load there and head for Victoria, TX where I re-load Tuesday and deliver over by Shreveport, LA.
oilfield guy
This is why I make the big bucks. Looking forward to seeing you in Chicago.
been meaning to tell you, quite a few times, i’ve read that you go into west virginia, don’t know if it’s north of here over rt 70, but if you travel down rt 32 in se ohio-which is the only interstate through here, to west virginia, if you go through athens, would love to treat you to lunch or dinner, etc……..nothing around here, so you might not stop here…….but if you need to, holler. know places to park a semi and good eats.my old neighbor used to drive over-sized loads, so know a little of what you have to do.
The Bush characters. Sure are a pretty bunch of boys and girls.
Oilfieldguy @ 77
Welcome all the same. Hope you get a good night’s sleep without any annoyance from the college kids…
siun
ok, will pass it on to everyone who whines or bitches about iraq, and do some donating myself………am still a newbie on what the hell to do…….thanks…….
Loo Hoo @ 70
It looks to me like Cheney threw him under the bus as far as the “Slam Dunk” comment goes. Tenet made mistakes and owned up to them it looks like. BushCo? Never
Thanks dmac – there’s not a lot we *can* do (unless we sort out how to make a major change in our own government) but Red Crescent is reliable and so important to the Iraqi people these days.
Loo Hoo @
70
If you are saying Tenant lied on 60 Minutes tonight, then I beg to differ.
Tenant told the truth.
Just not the whole truth … IMVHO.
Hey dmac,
Is Miller’s still in Athens?
Some of the best fried chicken I’ve ever had!
At least I think so; it was the seventies and unlike Clinton I did inhale.
STTP
Some of the best fried chicken I’ve ever had!
At least I think so; it was the seventies and unlike Clinton I did inhale.
oh yes, and i have a friend who is addicted…farm-raised chickens made by the family that raised them…….their fried veggies pull me their way every once in a while…….and people are still inhaling here…….quite the culture……hiyo from athens!!!!!!!! just got back here today from a trip to north of cincinnati to see family and friends…….good to be back. it is different here. no traffic and it is beautiful in the foothills………..nature at it’s best.
There are times when I regret not having a fast connection, but given the comments above, this is not one of those times. On the other hand, I did hear the news today about the bombings in Iraq — it was about the only story that broke through the wall-to-wall coverage of the tanker crash (explosion/fire) here in the Bay Area that brought down one freeway on top of another. [The only injuries were to the driver of the truck (but he was in good enough shape to get out of his cab, walk to a nearby gas station, and catch a taxi to the hospital).]
For all the bluster in DC about a broad strategy for stabilizing Iraq, the only thing that gets done is bombing and killing. But finally, more and more military folks are saying, in more and more public venues, this cannot be solved by military means. It must have a political solution, and the Department of Defense is not set up to provide that.
When will Bush listen?
Oilfieldguy @
76
I drove across Texas X2 a few weeks ago. Stopping in gas stations and a few Wal-Marts, I saw a lot of folks who appeared to have marginal income and education and were trying to make it day to day. My mental conflict arose when I remembered that most of these folks had probably voted for Bush; against their own and my self interest. Should I feel sympathy for the Republican base? I don’t know, but I sure feel sorry for their kids.
Thank You Siun, for another very important post. I’m listening to the video and will not only watch it later tonight but embed it soon myself in a post.
I force myself to watch these, I do go to sites, bracing and steeling myself, click through to see what they are doing in our name. Links lead to more horrible links.
I have watched a completely horrifying smuggled video of a stoning. They take the women and wrap them completely in a cloth with their arms pinned, so that they can’t see. They dig a hole in the ground and stick their bodies in up to their waist. They form a wide circle and start throwing stones of all sizes. Since the women are wrapped they can’t move much except to slump over forward but there is no hiding. The thudding stones rip the bloody cloths off eventually while they chant and work themselves into a bloodlust. They don’t stop until they are dead, their brains spilling out.
All forms of violence MUST end, especially against innocent women and children. The Goddess has had enough. Mother Gaia has certainly had enough. Who else has had enough?
Ot, but good news: Pretty Bird Woman House fundraiser is going gangbusters. $11,000 in just a couple of days.
dmac,
Thanks for the invite. If I am ever forced to go there, I will, otherwise I avoid Ohio at all costs. I have a brother that lives in Columbus and I do not swing through there to see him on my return trips from WVA.
Truck drivers have a saying about Ohio and its fine men in blue.
Our
Hand
Is
Out
I am way too busy to mess with them.
I’ve had more than enough.
Shez, I have had enough!
Peterr @ 86 asks:
When hell freezes over in the summertime? Meaning, never. He only hears selected words that fit into his preconceived notions. As for actually and truly listening, I believe that he is functionally incapable of listening and comprehending what does not fit his limited world view
Siun @
58
Lou Costello @
60
Thanks for the responses. I ended up watching the original Brasscheck link, Lou, because I was a little impatient.
Now I have to rehydrate. That was devastating. Thank you, Siun, for this post.
OT
I was in NYC much of last week and you know what I heard, much to my surprise? The US governs by fear! Yeah, I already knew that, 9/11, terrorism, blah blah blah. But these were liberal friends of mine saying this about Global Warming. Freaked me out actually. And again, liberals. Something to think about.
Shez – I should note since I think it was not clear that there is no footage of stonings or even discussion of honor killings in either video – The Women’s War shows conditions of everyday women in Iraq – a doctor, mothers, a family of girl athletes and explains what life is like for them now. The youtube is a gungho pro-invader little piece of porn showing our troops kicking in doors, slapping people, and generally acting like a completely undisciplined groups of terrorists. The maker of the video apparently thinks this is patriotic.
EvilDrPuma @
61
I wanted to go, but alas I could not. I was co-author on a paper, though.
shez
I have watched a completely horrifying smuggled video of a stoning. They take the women and wrap them completely in a cloth with their arms pinned, so that they can’t see. They dig a hole in the ground and stick their bodies in up to their waist. They form a wide circle and start throwing stones of all sizes. Since the women are wrapped they can’t move much except to slump over forward but there is no hiding. The thudding stones rip the bloody cloths off eventually while they chant and work themselves into a bloodlust. They don’t stop until they are dead, their brains spilling out.
All forms of violence MUST end, especially against innocent women and children. The Goddess has had enough. Mother Gaia has certainly had enough. Who else has had enough?
beer is making me share out loud……..
all the stoning talk always reminds me of the short story the lottery, which i had to read in the 9th grade, i invite people to read it……..at the time i thought, how could anyone imagine this, let alone it happening in the real world..i hated my favorite english teacher for making me read it, the visuals never have left my brain….and it happens in the real world……it frightened me then and it frightens me now………
read it, it’s called the lottery. and it’s all plausible, and real…………which is why it frightened me….someone is ‘chosen’ to be stoned to death….in any town, any place……..and it’s happening in their towns, in their place which might as well be here. stikes me to my core, when i first heard about it in afghanistan, saw the video, women being stoned to death and thought of the lottery and how someone wrote about it. and it happened. my god what can we do about it? i wanna know. i know siun just said donate to red crescent, i am………anything else besides passing on the outrage to anyone who will listen?
Hey Siun! Thanks for bringing this piece to us!
I really get the feeling that all the ‘independent’ news sources in Iraq are getting pushed out. I read last week that a popular blogger in Baghdad had decided to call it quits and leave.
Before long we’ll have to get our news by watching Google Earth to track the progress of the walls…
Geez, a group of CIA types writing a letter to George Tenant.
dakine01 @ 93
When hell freezes over in the summertime? Meaning, never. He only hears selected words that fit into his preconceived notions. As for actually and truly listening, I believe that he is functionally incapable of listening and comprehending what does not fit his limited world view
Agreed.
That should be “Peter @ 86 asks rhetorically.”
The same can be said of the rest of the residents of his bubble world at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
radiofreewill – there continue to be good sources of info from Iraq … the site linked under my name is one, and google Azzaman for the english version of one newspaper … also Al Aswat is a very reliable independent source.
The person leaving is Riverbend and she will be missed.
dmac and shez – note that the stonings in Iraq are going on in the areas held most securely by US “allies” of sorts … these are the sections where media sorts love to show how life is good in Kurdistan.
BBC News now showing artists painting “peaceful” scenes on the walls going up in Baghdad …
Siun, yes, I was just coming back to clarify that myself. I haven’t followed all of your links but of course I am getting ready to. The smuggled stoning video I watched was at least a year ago and I was more than haunted for weeks and weeks, still am. After that just to go out in public and see people laughing care free and oblivious, or worse yet to think any of it is patriotic, struck me as hideously surreal while any of this evil against humanity continues on and on relentlessly. Kuan Yin weeps with me.
Kuan Yin weeps for all of us.
dmac @ 99
beer is making me share out loud……..
all the stoning talk always reminds me of the short story the lottery, which i had to read in the 9th grade, i invite people to read it……..at the time i thought, how could anyone imagine this, let alone it happening in the real world..i hated my favorite english teacher for making me read it, the visuals never have left my brain….and it happens in the real world……it frightened me then and it frightens me now………
read it, it’s called the lottery. and it’s all plausible, and real…………which is why it frightened me….someone is ‘chosen’ to be stoned to death….in any town, any place……..and it’s happening in their towns, in their place which might as well be here. stikes me to my core, when i first heard about it in afghanistan, saw the video, women being stoned to death and thought of the lottery and how someone wrote about it. and it happened. my god what can we do about it? i wanna know. i know siun just said donate to red crescent, i am………anything else besides passing on the outrage to anyone who will listen?
Write Nancy Pelosi with the same sort of outrage. Tell her you want to speak to the house for a lot of people done with the carnage. Never know. Could somebody make a petition?
oilfield guy
Truck drivers have a saying about Ohio and its fine men in blue.
Our
Hand
Is
Out
I am way too busy to mess with them.
yes, ohio is known for a variety of things, among them the troopers…….lol
you learn to drive around it…….se ohio is a little immune to the regular doings of trooperville, in fact, they are a little set apart on all things that go on here, we are a world unto ourselves here.
Watching Tenet this evening on 60 Minutes, I didn’t see anything new.
I did, however, think that his mea culpa for the 16 Words was very weak – he said he was very busy with ‘a lot of things’ – so he passed off the final draft of the SOTU to an assistant with instructions to review it and get back to him.
Apparently, the assistant didn’t get back to Tenet – who remained blissfully ignorant – until he *shock* heard the president’s speech live! Implying that Tenet, who had previously stopped Bush from using the 16 Words on two previous speechmaking occasions, knew without a doubt that the 16 words in the SOTU were wrong.
Okay, let’s accept his story as he presents it. Why didn’t he begin correcting the record RIGHT AWAY? How did he let us go to War KNOWING the primary justification – imminent nuclear threat – was absolutely false?
That’s hardly a mea culpa…that’s much closer to a confession to Deriliction of Duty. Tenet didn’t help himself tonight. In fact, he might just be the Gonzo of Intelligence, after all.
More on honor killings, and not just in the Middle East: Bullying Women Into Suicide To Restore Honor
radiofreewill @ 109
Yeah, but he owned up to it. Sorry, if BushCo is going to throw him under the bus they can do it without my help.
Thank you vury mush ; )
siun
oh thank you, i love that visual. remember when i wondered where the poets and artists went? still doin’ it……….thanks.
Peterr @
86
When the oil runs out.
the Iraqui widows and orphans are very impressed with George Tenet’s brave dignity.
*cough*
Loo Hoo,
You bet we need more petitions, more phone calls, more emails and faxes, more marches, more pressure, more everything to get these movements to critical mass and keep raising awareness as we raise our voices loudly on these sins. I don’t want to hear marches don’t work/ are too expensive/don’t get covered/aren’t cool enough to attend/excuses. Especially coming from any people who were too young and/or didn’t march with us during Watergate. If we’re begged for money-emails-calls we can beg right back for some more actions, any actions, it is all worthy and needed.
Are we printing out posts like this and leaving them everywhere we go? Are we printing out pictures of the carnage on our luxury photo caliber printers and leaving them everywhere? We ARE the Netroots Citizen Publishers. We ARE the Netroots Voices of Sanity, and more and more of us can join up on local blogs as a show of strength and numbers as we continue to hold the Republic Party all accountable everytime we’re on the toobz, in the streets, and with every breath we take.
It terrifies the wingnuts when the masses say Oh Hell NO!, and they do know they are cornered animals, the jig is up. They’ll keep up their false bravado which is only a false sense of security. The Natural Laws of the Universe are catching up with them.
This will be EPU’d I’m sure, but Bush will only listen to you if you provide access to oil. It doesn’t matter if you are a voter, a mass murderer, a lawyer, torturer, truck driver.
Anyone can apply for an audience as long as they have oil.
Corollary #1a to When Bush Listens is When Bush Speaks: he’ll tell you anything you want to hear to get what he wants out of you, but don’t expect him to deliver on his promises. This includes ripping off fellow GOPers as well.
Thanks so much for posting the link to the Iraqi womans video. I dont see how anyone who watches could possibly support what we are doing over there.
It was all very sad, but the part about the female athletes was especially chilling.
We have to get out as soon as possible.