
Christy made a post recently that discusses the Hobson's Choice that The Deciderer is going to have to make very soon -- and of which he and his advisors seem to be blissfully unaware. Then again, they seem to be blissfully unaware of a lot of things.
This is why those out there who think that Bush won't veto the Iraq timetable/spending bill are mistaken. Of course he'll veto this bill. It doesn't matter whether it's got a binding deadline for withdrawal or not. He rejects even the appearance of chastisement by others: The Emperor, like the Pope, is infallible. Note his aides' desperate efforts to push Alberto Gonzales into resigning so that he doesn't force Bush to tacitly admit, by firing Gonzales, that he was wrong to hire him in the first place. Note how he rejected the velvet-lined lifeline tossed to him by the Iraq Study Group as a "flaming turd".
He doesn't think he'll pay a price because he and his inner circle have lived very sheltered lives. That platinum-plated cocooning and lack of real-world hardening (does anyone think that these people could run a drugstore, much less the country, without either serious cheating and/or their mommies and daddies standing ready to bail them out by any means necessary?) has made them incapable of understanding just how badly off they are.
Bush and his advisors are fifteen-year-old trust-fund babies in the bodies of mature men and women. They never have had to face, on a deep and personal level, the consequences of their actions; their mommies and daddies (and/or the friends of their mommies and daddies) have always been around to bail them out. Now the kids may resent this, and may even try (as Bush has tried for all his life, with his rejecting of the advice of his daddy's friends in the Iraq Study Group being just his most recent bit of adolescent rebellion) to pretend that they don't need their parents' or their parents' friends' help, but they wouldn't be where they are without it. As befits their eternal immaturity and combined dependence on and rebellion against their parents, their political philosophy is nothing more than a raised middle finger to everything that is espoused by anyone who might try to make them operate under any sort of restraint.
Because of this, they simply cannot conceive of the possibility that they are in the process of destroying not only themselves, not only the Republican Party, but the entire conservative movement. Their brains just can't even entertain such a possibility. But it is there. The main (if not only) thing propping them up right now is their heavy influence/control of the TV and radio outlets from which most Americans get their news -- and with the rise of progressive radio, Keith Olbermann, The Daily Show and Colbert Report, and the reality-based portion of the blogosphere, even that influence is weakening.
I expect that, when the history books are written on Bush and his crew, the righties will -- if any are left -- be desperately trying to pretend that he didn't exist, as will be the non-righties that assisted and enabled him. It'll be like trying to find someone in July of 1974 willing to admit to voting for Richard Nixon in November of 1972. Eight years and a war will be glossed over as the high school textbooks leap nearly seamlessly from President Bill Clinton to President Barack Obama. Even now, the Cons are trying to pretend that He's Really Not One Of Them. Our own little brain-dead Ozymandias will be all but effaced from history, his power gone as utterly as that of the historical Rameses to which Shelley's poem refers.
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said:—Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
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zed?
Wahoooooooo! My first zed!
Thank you! Thank you!
Beverages on me!
could it be…….zed?
Sweet Jane!!
: ( : ( : (
btw…..what does zed MEAN, anyway?
Yo!
Thanks to the blogs and the intertubes, this wretched period in our country will never be forgotten. We’ll make damn sure of that!
I tried to find a better picture of his sneer/smile in profile, but he hasn’t been smiling that much lately.
I noticed when I was typing my comment that there was a ‘0′ in the upper right hand corner - I’m assuming that’s the origin of the term zed.
nyuk, nyuk, nyuk…
Phoenix Woman writes
BINGO! Game, Set, and Match! This one paragraph encapsulates EVERYTHING that drives the Chimpenfuhrer and his minions/cohorts/enablers.
TheOtherWA @
7
Speaking of the intertubes .. I used TDS clip of Senator Stevens talking about the intertubes .. and Stewart’s critique .. it had the class howling in laughter
I mock thee Georgimandius
oddmommy @ 5
When you arrive at a new post w/no comments, the first comment to show after you post has a zero number next to it. Zero=zed.
EPU’d- Did anyone else take part in this today? If so, what was the reaction?
TeddySanFran says:
April 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
PeteCO @
252
LS @ 226
NINE (9) Servicemen killed in Iraq since Friday, 7 army and 2 marines.
HECKAVA JOB GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I spent a couple of hours this afternoon participating in the A28 action.
http://network.a28.org/
With about 30 other people I stood at two of the busiest intersections in downtown Denver,holding signs, and got honked at. Repeatedly. By people of all ethnicities and economic classes. If anyone tells me there is no appetite in this country for impeachment, I call bullshit. The response was overwhelmingly positive.
Interestingly, the two locations were picked in part for their proximity to local tv stations and newspapers. No representatives of the media were there.
Go figure.
Time to followup with a letter to the editor, Pete. Tell today’s story, and ask them to poll on impeachment!
TheOtherWA @ 7
That reminds me: If it’s possible, join or run for your local school board. That way you’ll get a say in the textbooks that get used. (The Fundies have been packing the school boards for years — that’s why creationism progressed as far as it has.)
I’m no shrink. You don’t have to be to understand this man Bush, is pathological. He’s sick. We are ruled by a very unbalanced individual. As my grandmother used to say about people like our prez, “there’s a screw loose somewhere”. I’m serious about this.
PeteCO @ 14
What intersection? (I lived in Denver for about 10 months in ‘03 into ‘04 - just curious).
Actually- Clusterfuck has butchered 111 troops this month- so far.
I should note that no one suffers as much as Clusterfuck and Pickles when he kills these guys.
Because of this, they simply cannot conceive of the possibility that they are in the process of destroying not only themselves, not only the Republican Party, but the entire conservative movement.
This is the lone benefit of the Rove/Cheney regime. But it does not come close to making up for all the grief they’ve inflicted on those who did not deserve it.
The Republicant party deserves to be banished for at least 20 years.
Phoenix Woman @
8
Didn’t you see him yukking it up with the Africans? Lots of great shots there.
Neighbors of the White House have begun complaining about the shrieks of anguish coming from behind the White House walls as Clusterfuck and the Pickle express their pain and horror at the death and devastation they have caused.
rwcole @ 19
What about Barney? I can see the Chimpy kicking him across the room when he isn’t getting his way or when the Speaker or Sen Clinton or such gives him the “Mommy voice”.
dakine01 @ 17
We did an hour at 6th & Speer, right by channel 7,(ABC) and very close to Fox & channel 9,(NBC) then we moved to Colfax & Lincoln, by the capitol. The new Post/News building is at Colfax & Broadway.
dakine01 @ 13
how much I have to learn…….
OT, and haven’t read the entire previous thread, but I presume that folks have seen the sample page of the DC Madame’s telephone records, right?
Now exactly is it that ABC News gets all the fun, and TPM Muckraker is spending its time on the latest DOJ document dump.
Isn’t it much more entertaining to go through some of the DC Madame’s phone records and reverse engineer them?
How does one do that?
And by the way, there are other items of interest for us lawyers on her own website, Deborah Jeane Palfrey Legal Defense Fund.
Bruce has started posting a roundup of the Take Back the Blog posts from today.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
I agree with your assessment of him. Pathological=dangerous
“Arm and arm over meadow and farm- walkin my Pickle back home.”
It’s critical that these congressional investigations continue and expand. They are shining a very big spotlight on these spoiled brats and more and more citizens are being made aware of the corruption that has been going on. The more the people learn, the less they are going to like the Republican philosophy.
slightly OT. When will I see via the media that the Congress has approved continued funding for the Iraq war. If Bush vetoes the bill, it is he alone who is responsible for reducing funding our troops? Two very simple statements.
PeteCO @ 24 says:
Figured it had to be somewhere near there. Not knowing Denver when I moved there, I wound up living in what used to be public housing and is now the complex “Overlook At Mile-Hi.” My street was used by a lot of folks as overflow parking from the stadium on game day.
Calif. Democrats warm for Clinton, wild for Obama
From Reuters today.
“a shatter’d visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command”
Love this. Perfectly describes both Shrub and Darth.
rwcole @ 22
*chuckle* *snort*
Oh, by the way:
According to a guy on one of my e-mail lists, Cheney visited Tulsa yesterday and was met by protesters.
In Tulsa.
A city in a state that’s about as Republican as you can get.
How did Liberry Laura get the name of Pickle?
(2nd clueless Q for this thread)
oddmommy @ 25
how much I have to learn…….
Just ask or wait around and someone else will ask. Most everyone was not aware of all the codes and protocol. Still learning things every day.
oddmommy @ 36
I think the preznint calls her that.
LoudounLib @ 34
It does, doesn’t it? The absolute and utter contempt for anyone Not Them.
oddmommy @ 36
I think Bartcop started calling her that years ago.
I don’t think we’ll have to wait for distant historians to see the GOP pretend Bushimandias does not exist. Imagine how the 2008 or 2012 GOP pres nominees are going to feel. Bush is going to expect to show up and get some applause and give a speech, just like Reagan did at the 92 convention.
I bet there’s going to be some tension over Bush demanding a plum speaking spot, and lots of balloons and whatnot, at the 2008 convention. The nominee, however, would probably rather not stand on the podium giving Bush a big ol’ hug. That picture will show up the NEXT DAY in ads by Edwards or Gore or whoever.
oddmommy @
36
because “I scream” was already taken.
Skeptic @ 31
I think your first question was covered on Thrusday and Friday in most of the print world (Thursday for coverage of House vote Wednesady and Friday for coverage of Thursday’s Senate vote)
Question 2 is when h*ll freezes over.
Look upon my clusterf*ck and despair!!
“We start to pet- and that’s when I get- her dillweed all over my vest”
“Walkin my pickle back home”
punaise @ 42
ouch
LoudounLib @ 38
I think it was this picture of Charles shoving one up her arse: http://cache.gettyimages.com/x.....8BCF4830A8
oddmommy @ 36
I think it comes from The Dick Van Dyke Show
Sidekick Buddy’s never-seen wife was named “Pickles”
“How did Liberry Laura get the name of Pickle[s]? “
She makes the prez all soft and bumpy.
Pickle[s] or two!
rwcole @ 45
never heard that one!
The best punishment George W. Bush could suffer would be to have all his money taken from him. No prison time, just no family money or retirement Fed money of any sort. Get a job that is not connected to the government or an old pal in any way, and survive. Try making it on your own, big boy.
egad…..enough gruesome images for a lifetime of nighmares…..!
glad I asked.
extremely well-said PW - would that i could be so eloquent in describing this nightmarish time in which we find ourselves - IMPEACH THE BASTARDS NOW!!
rwcole @
18
I think we are making a mistake focusing on Iraq fatalities instead of wounded and killed. Medical advances in managing trauma has turned many injuries that would have been fatal into “merely” injuries. In Vietnam the ration of fatalities/injuries was 1/3. In Iraq it is closer to 1/7. This means that the casualty rate defined as the rate soldiers are wounded in Iraq is much higher that it appears from the fatalities rate. Since many of those surviving now who would not have done so previously have severe, disabling injuries, the toll is really huge. (not that 3300 dead is not huge). There have been 24,314 wounded soldiers requiring evacuation in this war according to IC That is a huge number and I suspect there is very little awareness of this in the general public.
cleter @ 41
Oh, exactly: As I noted, the forgetting process is already starting, as a cadre of Republicans tries to pretend that Bush “betrayed Reagan’s legacy” when he in fact did what Reagan and Nixon would have loved to have tried, had they a Republican Congress, Rush Limbaugh and FOX News to back them up.
I’ll bet they’re hoping that Bush just stays out at his Potemkin ranch and cuts brush that week.
Loo Hoo @ 52
If he could also not have health insurance, that might be karmically nice as well. Especially if he got a nice toothache.
HEY!!
Not so fast there!
I thought this Ozymandia thing was called the Peter Pan syndrome. Does that shoe fit?
Bob in HI
Phoenix Woman @56 says
I’ll bet they’re hoping that Bush just stays out at his Potemkin ranch and cuts brush that week.
I bet they are, but I think he’s expecting a big Reagan-style send-off, rather than a Nixon-style blow off. Nixon was in-freakin-visible at the 76 convention. I don’t think Bush is planning on doing that.
TeddySanFran @ 58
How ’bout “President John Edwards”? ;-) (I’d go for “President Al Gore”, but I don’t think that’s in the cards unless none of the other guys can decisively squish Hillary.)
TeddySanFran @ 58
we all have to stay alive as long as we can, to bear witness to this abomination.
Phoenix Woman, Thank you for the excellent post. What’s going to happen at the GOP love fest next week. I am talking about the 08 contenders. They have been knocked out of the limelight due to all the scandal. Debate should be fun to watch.
lolo
oddmommy @ 36
Thanks for asking so I didn’t have to.
ZeD was a Canadian television series which billed itself as “open-source television”.
The program, which aired every weeknight on the CBC, aired original music, short films, animation, performance, visual art and spoken word pieces from around the world. The subject matter was mature, and each episode began with a humorously-worded call for viewer’s discretion. Each episode was 40 minutes long, with no advertisements. While the show did not run in the summer, its website allowed people to continue viewing certain works, and also upload their creations onto the website, which might then appear on television. Although some films are not available on the website, viewers of the television show could e-mail ZeD and request replays on Fridays, which were named “Feedback Fridays”. Altogether, the website claimed over 40,000 members.
http://www.answers.com/zed&r=67
Loo Hoo @ 64
I just spent a few minutes in Google land trying to find a definitive source. No clear evidence that ClusterF*ck uses it, others clearly do. Can anyone help here?
I give up, who’s Bartcop? (Asking for myself and maybe oddmommy)
cleter @ 57
There’s a large flock of neoconmen on wingnut welfare who deserve the same.
Example: Profile in chickenhawk courage, David Horowitz.
Bartcop is here.
Loo Hoo @ 67
well, now tis I who thanks you.
Sort of thought maybe something about the Simpsons…..?
Future history books will refer to this as that unpleasant period when three presidents were impeached within
3040 years. With a little asterix next to Nixon.Then they’ll mention that Bush was the last Republican president. There will be a brief discussion of the GOP, and the Whigs, and other defunct parties. There will be a little activity at the end of the chapter where students can decide who the worst president was. There will be pictures of Bush, and Nixon, and some obscure 1800s guy. Maybe Buchanan.
Loo Hoo @ 67
TheOtherWA @ 7
I agree. We are writing the history of this era right now.
http://www.bartcop.com/
PeteCO @
14
Thanks for your activism! I intended to do the same thing today, but got waylaid by illness, and instead spent the time in a medical clinic. I feel way embarrassed about it, because I was one of the co-organizers of the event.
Anyway, I’m glad for people like you who participated!
Bob in HI
cleter @ 71
You just put a smile on my face!
IMO, I think the pickles started at the smirking chimp. I heard it there in 2001 & I think they were the ones who began using it. I could be wrong. Athough it would be a first :))
Had ta make a margarita.
Here’s lookin up yer ol gherkin!!
*delurk*
Oh if only they end up like the colossal statue of the poem…
My husband and I went to Egypt last year and the Colossus was merely a couple of big stone feet in what is now a sugar cane field with a dirt parking lot carved out for the busses to turn around. After all the grand and glorious temples, most people didn’t even bother getting out to look at it.
*relurk*
Phoenix Woman @ 61
Yeah, any of those work for me too. Very good writing, though, getting us all on a slow boil and slipping that into the post! *g* I agree with the overall sentiment, and admire the “making PW’s own reality” aspect of referring to President Barack Obama….
Bob Schacht @ 75
I did not but I know several people who did.
So, nobody into the DC Madame any more, huh? Sigh.
Just when I discovered that she has applied to Chief Justice John Roberts to smack down the U.S. District Court, where Judge Gladys Kessler is presiding over her proceedings –
and just then I noticed that Judge Kessler ordered on March 22 that the DC Madame not try to sell any of her property.
Of course, the guv’mint tried to seize or attach anything that she had of value — such as her bank and investment accounts and rare coin collection — but she had something that had a peculiar kind of value.
And so on March 22 Judge Kessler ordered that, in addition to stopping her from suing the government (as she did), Ms. Madame is prohibited from “attempting any action that would affect the availability, marketability or value of said property, including . . . selling, transferring, . . . distributing, . . . or in any way diminishing the value of . . . the following property: . . .
So, with that long-winded background, here’s my question:
By what measure does the government contend that her client records have “value”?
I mean: value to whom?
Only to a blackmailer, right? In other words, by preserving the secrecy of these records, the government might be able to blackmail someone and help balance the Federal budget, right?
OK, far-fetched, I’ll admit. Then why do these records have “value” that would be diminished by her giving them away?
Ah, I got it! they have value also to the Johns who might be exposed, including those in the Bush Administration. But is that value monetizable?
NO!
–Ted Stevens
Elliott @
51
The lyrics above apparently paraphrase some of the lyrics of Walking My Baby Back Home (without looking it up, I don’t know who wrote its lyrics), recorded by Nat King Cole many years ago.
Bob Schacht @ 75
(((((Bob))))))
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 68
Another smile on my face. THIS is why I feel so at home here.
I way prefer Kucinich, Edwards, Gravel and some others over the two front runners. Of course, I have to say, Mr. Gore… please run.
Prof @ 82
How many of the judge’s friends are on those records?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 87
I still don’t know enough enout Obama to decide one way or the other on him. Otherwise I agree with your assessment.
Texas Betsy @
73
Hiya Betsy, you missed all the jokes in the last post.
I have the Innertubes song on a CD in my car. It gives me a lift when I blast it on my way to work. I also have HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH on one too. The girls at the bank love it at the drive thru.
Lou Costello @
47
OMG, that pic is PRICELESS!!!
lolo @ 63
Won’t each of them get even less time than ours did, since there are something like 47 GOP contenders? And will Brian Williams ask as many tabloid questions or will he wear his GOP-provided kneepads?
And I second lolo’s “excellent post” comment. The day when all Americans are required, by law, to spit after saying the name of the 41st & 43rd Presidents cannot come fast enough for me.
And, cleter’s right, the logistics for the 2008 GOP National Convention are gonna be nightmarish for their nominee. What to do with B*sh?
Consider this a very rare guest appearance of omniscience:
A “Hobson’s Choice” is NO choice. (See, Wikipedia - Hobson’s Choice)
Which is different from a “dilemma,” which is “a situation requiring a choice between equally undesirable alternatives.” (See, Random House Unabridged Dictionary)
They’re not synonymous.
Petrocelli @ 90
Maybe I will go back and check them out.
sorry. Should have given you the link for the DC Madame’s court filings.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 68 says:
I think there’s a Mr Kristol who should be VERY high on any lists like that.
“Just when I try to straighten my tie
She has to swallow my comb
Arm and arm over meadow and farm
Walkin my pickle back home”
Phoenixwoman: What is a Ozymandias?
Texas Betsy @ 76
Oh, yes…and the GOP gradually became a small, shrill minor party, which nominated an increasingly dour and shabby Newt Gingrich every four years at its increasingly tiny and rancourous conventions, until Newt’s fatal heart attack at the 2020 GOP convention at the Omaha Airport Holiday Inn Express.
ccmask @ 99
It’s the Greek name for Rameses. The Yul Brynner guy in Ten Commandments.
I cannot be so sanguine about the Bush legacy sinking into oblivion. Isaac Newton spoke of standing on the shoulders of giants and in politics our leaders stand also upon the shoulders of those who came before. Granted not all are giants - case in point.
Does anyone know if President Obama or Clinton or Romney or whoever will restore the balance of power that is the checks and balances that we rely upon - let alone restore Habeus Corpus to all Americans?
We have learned in the last six years, how much of our system of government relies upon the acceptance of a social compact. I am not talking about a welfare safety net type of compact - I mean a compact that makes the rule of law feasible at all in any meaningful way. And it obviously does not require an army or tanks in the street to seriously erode it.
The fact is George Bush has fundamentally altered the compact upon which the Constitution is based. He has rendered the rule of law nearly meaningless and in so doing has aggrandized the executive.
Who do you see see coming into office as the next president or the president after that who will not use the product of George Bush’s recklessness? Who, in short, will willingly give up the power that Bush has usurped for himself and will bequeath to his successors? That is successors with an “s”.
That is the real Bush legacy and that is the legacy that will have altered the history of this republic.
From Ms. Palfrey’s website:
Palfrey Legal Defense Fund
Nothing here about massage.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
paolo @102
Who do you see see coming into office as the next president or the president after that who will not use the product of George Bush’s recklessness? Who, in short, will willingly give up the power that Bush has usurped for himself and will bequeath to his successors?
Gore