For the reasons I stated on my blog, “What we know so far …” the scandal involving the use of the GSA to help Republican candidates may be a fruitful area of inquiry.

Please visit the Schapira blog …

“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”

afterdowningstreet

impeachbushcoalition

impeachbush.org

Torture? Cool stuff. Waging unjustified agressive war? Yeehaa!

Here’s the only thing that would do it. The populace has to get so angry at Bush/Cheney that the authoritarian senators would vote for impeachment out of fear for their own safety.

What revelation would cause the population to do that?

Would suddenly learning that they’ve faked on the OBL videos, and that OBL died in Oct 2001, cause the population to get angry enough?

Probably not — we’re unfortunately a pretty content bunch of reality-show watchers. Our middle-of-the-roaders would only get annoyed.

No, you’ve got to show that Bush/Cheney knew about 9/11 in advance.

Should I have waited until I had more people with me? Should I have lined up allies? Or should I have simply done what my gut (and young idealistic self) told me to do?

Anyway- I have to say I am impressed as hell with Kuchinich’s motives, determination and principles.

His desire to impeach also seems to go hand in hand with his desire not to bomb Iran to smithereens.

Bob Schacht @ 65

Help! I want to participate in priming the pump, but here in Hawaii, I’m at work for another 3 hours, and by the time I get home, this thread will be dead.

Can FDL set this post as a “never die” thread until impeachment is done? How about, in fact, FOUR never-die impeachment threads, accessible on the side-bars, for
* Cheney
* Gonzales
* Rove
* Bush

Each thread to stay alive until that person is impeached and articles of impeachment are approved by the House of Reps!!!

. . .
This could be done in Wikipedia fashion, with an FDL maven in charge of each impeachment page as editor in chief. The Wikipedia portion would be the top portion of each Article of Impeachment, with a looser bottom portion for discussion and comments. . . . .
Bob in HI

ACtually, I had a similar idea. Sort of like the “virtual think tank” idea I have kicked around before.

If we think there is enough interst, I could asks the goddesses if we could find a regular, usually low volume, slot and do a weekly investigation meeting. Leave the thread open all week and let folks add i hwat they have found.
For each new week, I would summarize what we have found, what ideas we have about the charges that relate to it and so forth.

After a while, we have a big wicki kinda thead and put together our “order of proof”

The weekly work, gives you all data to use when priming the pump

“Hello, Senator X, did you know that these week abc event occured that may be a violation of this staute over here and this is why I think the facts bear that out”

Imagine being able to make a weekly phone call with frsh input, then multiply that by how many folks we reach and you will see some movement.

Not only that, but we know that MSM read us and some of the more clued in folks on the Hill.

This way the drip drip drip gets amplified until it sounds deafening

LHP, thanks for your encouragement, as well as lolo @81, and others @83, 95,96, and 156. I like the idea of the Kos wiki, too.

Strategically, I see the task as having several parts:

(1) Drawing up draft articles of impeachment, for each of our bete noirs, that are solidly grounded in law and for which bullet-proof evidence is available. Technically, we don’t need that level of evidence (Congress could impeach Cheney for sneering at Democrats if they wanted to), but it will help get the job done if we do. But it will help to have precise citations of Laws from the U.S. Code, applicable regulations from the CFR, or Presidential Executive Orders, etc. And then we will need our legal beagles to sharpen up the arguments, identifying weak points so that we can strengthen them.

(2)Laying out the evidence. This means citing relevant documents in the public record. Again, we will need to vet this evidence so it is as ironclad as possible.

(3) Identifying appropriate venues for congressional oversight where public hearings can put the evidence before the American people. The best laws and the best evidence will not be supported by our congresspeople unless they feel they have the public support.

Let’s begin priming the pump.

The People vs. Vice President Richard Cheney

Let us begin with the Articles of Impeachment proposed by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, namely:

Article One: that he manipulated the intelligence process by fabricating the
threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the war in Iraq;

Article Two: that he deceived citizens and Congress about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda to justify the war; and

Article Three: that he has openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States, and has done so with the United States’ proven capability to carry out such threats.

For details of each of these Articles, and the supporting documents, I refer to Rep. Kucinich’s website

Bob in HI

Peterr @ 60

Which scandals?

http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html

Absolutely incredible list! Just glancing over them confirms my gut feeling that we are living in a sea of malfeasance and I suspect there is a boat load of evidence for most if not all of the issues cited.
Wow!!!

I’d like to add another pump-primer: let’s press TradMed to poll on impeachment, of both and each separately.

Just because my Congresswoman sez her Speaker’s table is set without it is no reason not to find out what folks think of impeaching one, the other or both evil-doers at the same time.

Thanks TeddySanFran!

Peace