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		<title>By: Cartujano</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-652283</link>
		<dc:creator>Cartujano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, stop it with the “we didn’t know” crap. They all knew that they were being lied to on a daily basis. The lies were blatant and certifiable the moment they were uttered. This WaPo guy is yet another gasbag faking a soccer injury, rolling all over the field, begging for the ref’s mercy. I am a proud member of the 9% fraternity-sorority of those who have opposed the Junta from day one, the same ones who were called traitors or worse, lost friendships and jobs, and had no choice but looking at ourselves in the mirror with our consciences turned on. Moyers was just way too nice, especially to Russet, the biggest gasbag of them all. Please don’t play nice to these bastards anymore. They are as guilty for this illegal war of aggression that has left the Geneva Conventions with more holes than a Swiss cheese as the Junta is. Let them look themselves in the mirror and wince in disgust.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, stop it with the “we didn’t know” crap. They all knew that they were being lied to on a daily basis. The lies were blatant and certifiable the moment they were uttered. This WaPo guy is yet another gasbag faking a soccer injury, rolling all over the field, begging for the ref’s mercy. I am a proud member of the 9% fraternity-sorority of those who have opposed the Junta from day one, the same ones who were called traitors or worse, lost friendships and jobs, and had no choice but looking at ourselves in the mirror with our consciences turned on. Moyers was just way too nice, especially to Russet, the biggest gasbag of them all. Please don’t play nice to these bastards anymore. They are as guilty for this illegal war of aggression that has left the Geneva Conventions with more holes than a Swiss cheese as the Junta is. Let them look themselves in the mirror and wince in disgust.</p>
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		<title>By: Karon von Gerhke</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651945</link>
		<dc:creator>Karon von Gerhke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To qoute Norman Lear’s favorite Justice Felex Frankfurter quote: “The highest office for a democracy the office of the people.” And to paraphrase Lear himself, “Absent an informed populace, democrary cannot survive.” A free media is essential for the survival of democratic societies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That being said, I have searched the world over, reading English translations of media publications from Asia, East Asia, Eastern and Western Europe I have yet to find balanced, unbaised reporting. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fifty percent of what journalists pass off on us as journalism today should be listed as a PAID ADVERTISEMENT, citing their sponsor. Twenty-five percent should be published under the heading of an OPINION COLUMN with the  remaining twenty-five percent under their political affiliation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have found blogging to be a safer far safer bet than the corporate owned media. You know what you are getting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To qoute Norman Lear’s favorite Justice Felex Frankfurter quote: “The highest office for a democracy the office of the people.” And to paraphrase Lear himself, “Absent an informed populace, democrary cannot survive.” A free media is essential for the survival of democratic societies. </p>
<p>That being said, I have searched the world over, reading English translations of media publications from Asia, East Asia, Eastern and Western Europe I have yet to find balanced, unbaised reporting. </p>
<p>Fifty percent of what journalists pass off on us as journalism today should be listed as a PAID ADVERTISEMENT, citing their sponsor. Twenty-five percent should be published under the heading of an OPINION COLUMN with the  remaining twenty-five percent under their political affiliation.</p>
<p>I have found blogging to be a safer far safer bet than the corporate owned media. You know what you are getting.</p>
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		<title>By: Propagandee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651876</link>
		<dc:creator>Propagandee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-651457&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;nellieh @&lt;br /&gt;
                241              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I watched Moyer’s documentary last nighy also. It was morning before I could sleep because of anger and frustration. It is shamefull how McClatchey reporters were ignored and the lapdogs (Miller) were lapped up. And Christy, while watching Oprah, did you watch her minimize the only objection to her war mongering guests by a young black women. She was the only one in the room with either the forsight or nerve to question their phony facts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Minimize” doesn’t quite cover it. Oprah seemed downright indignant, denying any suggestion that she was helping to “propagandize” the war. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As if she couldn’t believe that she was being  used as part of the Administration’s sophisticated perception management campaign…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-651457"><em>nellieh @<br />
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<blockquote><p>I watched Moyer’s documentary last nighy also. It was morning before I could sleep because of anger and frustration. It is shamefull how McClatchey reporters were ignored and the lapdogs (Miller) were lapped up. And Christy, while watching Oprah, did you watch her minimize the only objection to her war mongering guests by a young black women. She was the only one in the room with either the forsight or nerve to question their phony facts.</p>
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<p>“Minimize” doesn’t quite cover it. Oprah seemed downright indignant, denying any suggestion that she was helping to “propagandize” the war. </p>
<p>As if she couldn’t believe that she was being  used as part of the Administration’s sophisticated perception management campaign…</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651845</link>
		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I trust one realizes that there are no younger journalists with the power of Moyers to replace him. This is last gasp criticism. The foreseeable future is bereft of such quality. Who would do this, Russert? Brian Williams?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust one realizes that there are no younger journalists with the power of Moyers to replace him. This is last gasp criticism. The foreseeable future is bereft of such quality. Who would do this, Russert? Brian Williams?</p>
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		<title>By: Dumbwya</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651821</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumbwya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;72 Christy Hardin Smith says: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;April 26th, 2007 at 6:05 am &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;pointecoupee at 62 — Well, for one thing, a rude attitude isn’t exactly helpful. I was reading the information you linked up — because I thought informing myself on your perspective before answering the question so that my response was based on facts and other information rather than speculative junk might be more useful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Try contacting local reporters with the information that you all have found, both print and television. Oftentimes if you can interest an investigative reporter in something like this, it can get more traction. I’d start with folks at the Times-Picayune — they’ve been doing some great investigative work on corruption issues in the area of late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, try getting folks in your local Democratic groups or DFA or otherwise to write letters to the editor about this to push the story. Keep blogging about it, too — you’d be surprised how much traction you can get just by continuing to dig into information and presenting it, piece by piece, fact by fact. That’s &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I WOULD ADD: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the former staffer, the female who was sexually harrassed, filed suit, get a copy of the lawsuit, it’s a public record, and distribute it to the media. This will give them more than just a he said/she said. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The BillO sexual harrassment story had legs because the lawsuit’s complaint got out and was filled with salacious details. You can do the same. Otherwise, get her to hold a press conference about how she feels that this guy wants to be the attorney general of the state. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hate to be a pig but the TV media needs images and if she’s hot, they are more likely to give the story play: Big, Bad Congressman Pawed Cute Little Blonde….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In Chicago, we had a bartender get beat to shit by an off-duty cop on video. The bartender was a cute blonde woman so the video and the story ran for days. She did interviews for TV stations and everything.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>72 Christy Hardin Smith says: </p>
<p>April 26th, 2007 at 6:05 am </p>
<p>pointecoupee at 62 — Well, for one thing, a rude attitude isn’t exactly helpful. I was reading the information you linked up — because I thought informing myself on your perspective before answering the question so that my response was based on facts and other information rather than speculative junk might be more useful.</p>
<p>Try contacting local reporters with the information that you all have found, both print and television. Oftentimes if you can interest an investigative reporter in something like this, it can get more traction. I’d start with folks at the Times-Picayune — they’ve been doing some great investigative work on corruption issues in the area of late.</p>
<p>Also, try getting folks in your local Democratic groups or DFA or otherwise to write letters to the editor about this to push the story. Keep blogging about it, too — you’d be surprised how much traction you can get just by continuing to dig into information and presenting it, piece by piece, fact by fact. That’s </p>
<p>I WOULD ADD: </p>
<p>If the former staffer, the female who was sexually harrassed, filed suit, get a copy of the lawsuit, it’s a public record, and distribute it to the media. This will give them more than just a he said/she said. </p>
<p>The BillO sexual harrassment story had legs because the lawsuit’s complaint got out and was filled with salacious details. You can do the same. Otherwise, get her to hold a press conference about how she feels that this guy wants to be the attorney general of the state. </p>
<p>I hate to be a pig but the TV media needs images and if she’s hot, they are more likely to give the story play: Big, Bad Congressman Pawed Cute Little Blonde….</p>
<p>In Chicago, we had a bartender get beat to shit by an off-duty cop on video. The bartender was a cute blonde woman so the video and the story ran for days. She did interviews for TV stations and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651819</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great milestone, Jane.   Hang in there!   We’re rooting for you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great milestone, Jane.   Hang in there!   We’re rooting for you!</p>
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		<title>By: portia.vz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651742</link>
		<dc:creator>portia.vz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-651531&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wigwam @ 250&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-651334&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;portia.vz @&lt;br /&gt;
                217              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am more convinced than ever that Judy was involved in the anthrax scare.  Can’t prove it.  Don’t have evidence.  Just let’s call it an educated hunch.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Involved” in what sense?  She certainly did her part in writing the book, &lt;b&gt;Germs&lt;/b&gt;, which scared the shit out of a lot of people.  From the editorial review at Amazon:&lt;/p&gt;
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Three reporters from The New York Times survey the recent history of biological weapons and sound an alarm about the coming threat of the “poor man’s hydrogen bomb.” Germs begins ominously enough, recounting the chilling attack by the followers of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh in 1984 on the Dalles, Oregon–no one died, but nearly 1,000 were infected with a strain of salmonella that the cult had legally obtained, then cultured and distributed.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But there was also a series of Athrax attacks, some of them fatal.  Are you “convinced” she was “involved” in those?  I’d be most interested.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if she was involved.  Let’s just say that if I worked in Manhattan and I wanted to drop off anthrax laced letters off in Princeton and Trenton, I would hop on the subway to Penn Station, take the Northeast Corridor train to Trenton, mail my letter, get back on the train, get off at Princeton Junction, take the Princeton Shuttle to Princeton, visit friends I know there about an upcoming book, mail another letter, take train back and be in Manhattan in time for cocktails in a gorgeous glass.&lt;br /&gt;
Or, the Amtrak Acela train goes all the way from Manhattan to DC with a stop in Trenton.&lt;br /&gt;
So many possibilities for someone with a narcissistic personality disorder who fancies him/herself to be pretty important, working on a revolution with a bunch of neocons to remake the middle east and doing his/her part to create another Pearl Harbor.&lt;br /&gt;
Or, I could be dreaming…&lt;br /&gt;
BTW, the Acela train was taken out of service for several months after the anthrax attacks so Amtrak could fix the brakes.  Riiiiiiighht.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-651334"><em>portia.vz @<br />
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<blockquote><p>I am more convinced than ever that Judy was involved in the anthrax scare.  Can’t prove it.  Don’t have evidence.  Just let’s call it an educated hunch.
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<p>“Involved” in what sense?  She certainly did her part in writing the book, <b>Germs</b>, which scared the shit out of a lot of people.  From the editorial review at Amazon:</p>
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Three reporters from The New York Times survey the recent history of biological weapons and sound an alarm about the coming threat of the “poor man’s hydrogen bomb.” Germs begins ominously enough, recounting the chilling attack by the followers of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh in 1984 on the Dalles, Oregon–no one died, but nearly 1,000 were infected with a strain of salmonella that the cult had legally obtained, then cultured and distributed.
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<p>But there was also a series of Athrax attacks, some of them fatal.  Are you “convinced” she was “involved” in those?  I’d be most interested.</p>
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<p>I don’t know if she was involved.  Let’s just say that if I worked in Manhattan and I wanted to drop off anthrax laced letters off in Princeton and Trenton, I would hop on the subway to Penn Station, take the Northeast Corridor train to Trenton, mail my letter, get back on the train, get off at Princeton Junction, take the Princeton Shuttle to Princeton, visit friends I know there about an upcoming book, mail another letter, take train back and be in Manhattan in time for cocktails in a gorgeous glass.<br />
Or, the Amtrak Acela train goes all the way from Manhattan to DC with a stop in Trenton.<br />
So many possibilities for someone with a narcissistic personality disorder who fancies him/herself to be pretty important, working on a revolution with a bunch of neocons to remake the middle east and doing his/her part to create another Pearl Harbor.<br />
Or, I could be dreaming…<br />
BTW, the Acela train was taken out of service for several months after the anthrax attacks so Amtrak could fix the brakes.  Riiiiiiighht.</p>
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		<title>By: VJB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651736</link>
		<dc:creator>VJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;May the ‘Miracle Peanut’ never have to go through life wearing a top hat. Keep up the good work,CHS.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May the ‘Miracle Peanut’ never have to go through life wearing a top hat. Keep up the good work,CHS.</p>
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		<title>By: lost_nacf_gop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651692</link>
		<dc:creator>lost_nacf_gop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Okay, at the risk of sounding very sophomoric and naive, when exactly did we become a nation of “leaders” who cannot speak extemporaneously at a press conference or in an interview? Without a doubt this malarkey started before Shrub came along, but his handlers have ratcheted up the application of this sevenfold.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The leadoff of Moyers’ excellent-but-depressing (jeez Rather, fall on your sword again if you must, but doggone it also tell us how you and your high level colleagues will lead a charge to fix this cr*p!) was the unapologetically scripted “Press Conference” mentioned in the article.  It reminded me of a much earlier press conference when the President clumsily quipped into the open microphone “it’s scripted” and not a soul said anything about it.  Russert’s snippet last night made it a point to get in “we ask the questions, we get to ask anything we want” with the gleam one might expect from the discoverer of the cure for melanoma.  Good lord, spontaneity is a selling point?  Jeez, Timmeh, that would be fine if just once in awhile you’d use your legal training and ask a couple of follow up questions - especially when you got the “Greeted as liberators” canned answer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One would hope that people going on these shows would have to be prepared to answer anything, and not merely be given a list of questions to approve, go over and prepare with before appearing.  That makes them less like leaders and far more like George Costanza.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sadly the truth is that this “here’s the list before you go up” has sunk down to the lowest level imaginable.  Having had the great good fortune to run for a local school board a couple of years ago, I received a “list” of cadged questtions from the organizer of a “candidates forum,” that I could use to prepare my responses.  It meant the whole damn thing was a charade, and the feeling was not mitigated by the fact that all of the candidates received the same e-mailed list.  If this kind of “Screw spontaneity, here’s where the arrows are gonna come from” is how we’re governing at the local level, we’re screwed, big time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, at the risk of sounding very sophomoric and naive, when exactly did we become a nation of “leaders” who cannot speak extemporaneously at a press conference or in an interview? Without a doubt this malarkey started before Shrub came along, but his handlers have ratcheted up the application of this sevenfold.</p>
<p>The leadoff of Moyers’ excellent-but-depressing (jeez Rather, fall on your sword again if you must, but doggone it also tell us how you and your high level colleagues will lead a charge to fix this cr*p!) was the unapologetically scripted “Press Conference” mentioned in the article.  It reminded me of a much earlier press conference when the President clumsily quipped into the open microphone “it’s scripted” and not a soul said anything about it.  Russert’s snippet last night made it a point to get in “we ask the questions, we get to ask anything we want” with the gleam one might expect from the discoverer of the cure for melanoma.  Good lord, spontaneity is a selling point?  Jeez, Timmeh, that would be fine if just once in awhile you’d use your legal training and ask a couple of follow up questions &#8211; especially when you got the “Greeted as liberators” canned answer. </p>
<p>One would hope that people going on these shows would have to be prepared to answer anything, and not merely be given a list of questions to approve, go over and prepare with before appearing.  That makes them less like leaders and far more like George Costanza.  </p>
<p>Sadly the truth is that this “here’s the list before you go up” has sunk down to the lowest level imaginable.  Having had the great good fortune to run for a local school board a couple of years ago, I received a “list” of cadged questtions from the organizer of a “candidates forum,” that I could use to prepare my responses.  It meant the whole damn thing was a charade, and the feeling was not mitigated by the fact that all of the candidates received the same e-mailed list.  If this kind of “Screw spontaneity, here’s where the arrows are gonna come from” is how we’re governing at the local level, we’re screwed, big time.</p>
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		<title>By: theExile</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/26/truth-hurts/#comment-651664</link>
		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-651590&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Amalfax @ 253&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Does your “miracle peanut” have a name?  Sorry, but you sound like Dr. Laura talking about her “munchkins”…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[CHS notes:  yes, she does.  But, as I used to put people in the penitentiary for a living, I try not to use it publicly.  For obvious reasons.  If you knew what I know  first hand about kiddie porn, child sexual abuse, murder and other unsavory criminal acts, you’d be protective of your child, too.  Especially if the people you put in jail for committing these crimes may, someday, be paroled.  Thanks for asking.  — CHS]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I kinda knew why you consistently referred to your daughter as the Peanut. I’ve always thought of it as her “screen name.” But your explanation wins kudos from me. Clear, concise exposition of the issue, as usual ReddHead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Does your “miracle peanut” have a name?  Sorry, but you sound like Dr. Laura talking about her “munchkins”…</p>
<p>[CHS notes:  yes, she does.  But, as I used to put people in the penitentiary for a living, I try not to use it publicly.  For obvious reasons.  If you knew what I know  first hand about kiddie porn, child sexual abuse, murder and other unsavory criminal acts, you’d be protective of your child, too.  Especially if the people you put in jail for committing these crimes may, someday, be paroled.  Thanks for asking.  — CHS]</p>
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<p>I kinda knew why you consistently referred to your daughter as the Peanut. I’ve always thought of it as her “screen name.” But your explanation wins kudos from me. Clear, concise exposition of the issue, as usual ReddHead.</p>
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