
Update: Feel free to liveblog the debate thread here--we were working on a liveblog thread, but it didn't happen.
As Christy pointed out this morning, it's amazing what the threat of subpoenas will do for you (with everyone, that is, except our recalcitrant Secretary of State). But I'd like to make a closely related point. It's also amazing what the threat of subpoenas will do. In the last 24 hours, three of the issues Waxman has been focused on have moved significantly forward, and Waxman has made significant progress in negotiations with Fred Fielding about whether and how Andy Card will be interviewed by the Committee. The three areas of progress are:
RNC Emails
Yesterday morning, the RNC provided Waxman a list of 37 (out of 50) of the people with RNC emails. It also admitted that they had 25 million KB of email data for the 37 individuals in question (that's a lot of emails). And finally, they revealed that they had engaged a computer forensics firm to scan Karl Rove's hard drive.
These efforts include retaining a leading, nationally-known computer forensics firm, Stroz Friedberg, LLC, to provide advice and technical support. Over the last several days, Stroz Friedberg imaged several RNC-owned computers and blackberries that are currently being used by White House employees.
Okay--they didn't mention Karl by name. But if you're going to focus on just "several" people's data, you'd think Karl would be at the top of that several, wouldn't you?
Of course, all of this was an attempt to avoid having to turn over the shady emails that Waxman doesn't yet know about--but Waxman didn't buy it. So they still subpoenaed the RNC for basic information on the RNC email use.
As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. It asks the RNC to provide answers to basic questions about the use of RNC e-mail accounts by White House officials, such as a list of which officials uses these accounts and how many e-mails they sent and received. The deadline is two weeks.
It also asks the head of the RNC, Mike Duncan, to appear before the Committee in two
weeks to testify about these matters, Depending on the kind of response the Committee receives
from the RNC in the interim, I will consult with the members about whether the Committee will
need to proceed with this hearing.
I like that last bit--subpoenaing Mike Duncan to appear before the committee. I imagine that'll persuade Mr. Duncan to be a little more forthcoming with information about those emails.
Hatch Act Violations
Meanwhile, in what I assume was a similar attempt to forestall a subpoena (and probably a response to Jeffrey Smith's reporting), the White House admitted it had held "informational briefings about the political landscape" at 20 government agencies. Big surprise--those agencies include several that have been accused of unfairly helping Republicans or hurting Democrats in their duties, such as DHS/FEMA's preferential treatment of Mississippi at the expense of Democratically governed Lousiana after Katrina. You think maybe there's a connection between Rove, asking agency heads to consider how they can help get Republicans elected, and agency policies that help get Republicans elected? Nahhh.
Once again, though, Waxman did not get distracted by shiny objects; after all, he had asked more generally about emails referring to the use of government resources to get Republicans elected. So the RNC got a second subpoena, this time looking for more information on potential Hatch Act violations.
As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. The subpoena asks the
RNC to provide the e-mails described above. It also asks for several previously requested
documents, including policies and procedures regarding the use of the RNC e-mail accounts, and
communications from federal entities regarding the preservation, storage, or destruction of emails.
Honestly, I suspect this subpoena is designed to bunge up the RNC works, because there's no way they'll completely comply with the subpoena (they're not going to admit to all the ways Rove has used the RNC servers to talk about using government resources to establish a one-party state). But this subpoena will be something we can refer back to when we get new revelations of how BushCo used the RNC server to serve Rove's ends.
MZM's Contracts
The most interesting--and least reported--development relates to Waxman's attempt to get the White House to turn over information on MZM's contract with the White House. MZM, you'll recall, was one of Mitchell Wade's companies for which he was bribing Duke Cunningham in exchange for government contracts. It's very first federal contract provided services of some kind to OVP--though those services have been variously referrred to as a furniture contract, service to scan mail for anthrax contamination, or (most recently), a service to scan email for threats (huh. we're talking about email again). The contract is interesting for two reasons (in addition to the confusion about the services rendered). First, it pretty transparently paid for Duke Cunningham's boat, the Dukestir. And second, MZM went on to provide key services tied to spying on Americans.
There were two developments on this front yesterday. First, in response to Waxman's subpoena threat, the White House turned over to Waxman two hundred pages of documentation on the original MZM contract. And perhaps more interesting, the Department of Defense announced it was discontinuing a program associated with MZM's spying contract (hat tip Laura Rozen).
Less than two weeks after being sworn in as undersecretary of defense for intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr. is moving to end the controversial Talon electronic data program, which collected and circulated unverified reports about people and organizations that allegedly threaten Defense Department facilities.
[snip]
Talon -- which stands for Threat and Local Observation Notices -- is operated under the direction of the Counterintelligence Field Activity, which was established in September 2002 by then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz. CIFA was originally charged with coordinating policy and overseeing the domestic counterintelligence activities of Pentagon agencies and the armed forces.
The agency's size and budget are classified, but congressional sources have said that CIFA had spent more than $1 billion through last October. One counterintelligence official at that time estimated that CIFA had 400 full-time employees and 800 to 900 contractors working for it.
Last August, CIFA Director David A. Burtt II and his top deputy, Joseph Hefferon, resigned in the wake of a scandal involving CIFA contracts that went to MZM Inc., a company run by Mitchell J. Wade. Wade pleaded guilty in February 2006 to conspiring to bribe then-Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif). [my emphasis]
You see, in my more speculative moments, I have wondered whether MZM's domestic spying contracts were the most urgent reason for Carol Lam's firing. How curious then, that just as the White House turns over documentation on the original MZM contracting, Defense announces it will end the more egregious domestic spying program?
It's just one of those coinkydinks that subpoena power seems to produce.
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WAXMAN!
Hey Marcy.
Waiting for your next book.
Might be able to visit late May.
Obama, abortion decisions not made lightly. I trust women to make the decision.
egregious @
5
Ut oh, I’m thinking of CT in late May–when were you thinking?
Marcy - in your first para do you mean “recalcitrant” I don’t think incalcitrant is a word. This guy doesn’t think so either. Now to read the rest of the post
Do we blog debate here or down below?
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Marcy, I want to read this, know it will be great, after the debate. Is it okay here or no?
Marcy, do you do book signings in Michigan?
emptywheel @ 6
I might be in NYC in late May…
Marcy, I am waiting for the rest of the Anatomy trilogy…
Anatomy of Deceit
Anatomy of Delete
Anatomy of Defeat
Even if Waxman only gets ten percent of all the hinky shit these guys have pulled it should be enough to do some of them in.
IMO.
Bustednuckles @ 14
That would take at least five years.
petedownunder @ 8
Yup, and you know what? When I looked up recalcitrant today to make sure I was using it right, I didn’t notice I had written incalcitrant. That’s why this blogging this is so excellent. Thanks.
Waxman is going to need a staff of thousands to keep track of all the scandals. He’ll need a couple of hundred process servers just for the subpoenas. Go Waxman.
dakine01 @ 9
Here’s fine–we were working on a debate thread but it didn’t happen.
emptywheel @ 7
Totally flexible. Go for the CT thingie.
Marcy - sorry to have nit picked, but you do such great work I did not want to distract with a weird word. You really are the best.
A thing we’ve been klicking around is, what happens to Condi? She’s said she won’t show up to testify, and it was suggested that she has exec immunity (don’t think that was verified). So, what if she won’t show?
Also, wrt Ms Monica, I know they can put her in custody if she won’t talk, but what if she lies? And who will decide if she is lying?
Thank you for your wisdom and persistence, you are a goddess.
petedownunder at 18
Waxman is going to need a staff of thousands to keep track of all the scandals.
And what do you call us?
Henry ought to be considered for a FDL interview. Though he tends to avoid self-publicity, maybe he can be convinced by the strength of our hero worship.
But yeah, isn’t it interesting that coinkydink?
As gas just hit an all-time record high in OR today, I wish there was someone subpoenaing oil company and refinery CEOS…
Tell us who are at work without TV about the debate, please! There goes another billable hour down the drain!
Richardson, VTech gun issue: consolidences, 2nd amendment precious. Mental illness is a problem. Background checks should be mandatory and universal.
Thanks Marcy:
To Richardson you are the favorite of NRA did anything amke you rethink you position on guns?
Richardson: Tradgedy: I am a westerner but vast majority of gun owners are law-abiding. People with mental illneses should not get a gun. Must have instant background checks. There should be adequate MH care.
W: Gov R, you’re leading all candidates in NRA rating? How do you feel on this?
R: Background check. Mental health not treated same so need mental health parity so schools
Kevin Hayden @ 24
howdy kevin!! ….waving madly!!
Biden, what we should do about guns: gun show loophole, focus on mental illness, teachers/schools should be able to take sick kids off campus.
Bravo, EW, is it it crossposted to TNH? You and Josh have been talking about MZM. I would love to see if Waxman releases the 200 Doc.’s for our perusal!!!
“Who here has a gun in the house?”….oh for christ’s sake
egregious @ 23
You know that’s true - the blogs provide the same power as SETI uses thousands of home computers to listen for LGMs (Little Green Men). The amazing speed of the review of the various docu dumps demonstrated that. Plus among the readers there is someone who knows almost anything we need to know. A new force in the world.
Edwards: repeal tax cuts for rich to pay for healthcare-not much substance in questions. Go Edwards!
Edwards: get rid of Geo. bush tax cuts for all making over 200k per. Proud to have universla health plan. Have responsibility to american people to tell what ya gonna do. Requires employers to cover all, gives choice to people, no pre-existing conditions banned.
Marcy!
Obama: Black infant mortality is going up
Epu’d:
Biden: Dangerous writing is reason to deny civil rights!
Baraqck: Cover everybody, control costs, black infant mortatlity going up which is unacceptable. reduce permiums.
Whoo Hoo,
Obama calls the tax payers his boss. Why don’t those same taxpayers have the same medical care available?
selise @ 29
Hi Selise! Hope you’re keeping the Northeast quadrant fully medicated so they’ll all vote Dem!
Waxman is doing a fantastic job, all very exciting stuff.
One thing I’m noticing is that my hometown fishwrap, the LA Times, hasn’t written a sentence about Waxman and his mojo, outside of the most basic reports on his activities. Not a feature, not a follow-up, and nothing to suggest that the longtime Los Angeles congressman has finally been unleashed and is leading the takedown of the Bush junta. I guess I blame myself for not yelling and screaming that he deserves more recognition.
And I come back, once again, to the FDL question: do the 200 new oversight investigators/lawyers/workers all work for Waxman? How is possible for SlowJoe to be doing absolutely nothing with the “govt affairs” committee in the shadow of Waxman, along with Leahy? Why can’t Broder be writing about this, instead of moronic statements about Harry Reid? If Reid is doing anything wrong it’s not that he’s standing up to Bush and Cheney, but that he’s not punting Lieberfascist the hell off the Senate’s oversight committee.
Can’t just one of the FDL intellijentsia chat about this and connect a few dots? I’m ready to beg…
PLEASE….a question on presidential power
Richardson - you are the most strident to not raise taxes.
Richardson: I would have a health care plan: no new beuracracy. All share with Bus. state, fed. The first thing we do is deal with Beurocracy and inefficencies 31% of costs go to inefficiencies. Need sharing information. Eliminate HMAs. Focus on prevention.
Hillary: All ideas presented need to get out to public. I do have experience in setting up plans which were initially accepted but then big everything got involved.
Cover everybody but improve quality. Work within current system
Richardson perhaps most strident about not raising taxes to pay for this
R: I deal with this everyday as Gov. Guns too. In my new healtcare plan, no new bureaucracy, focus on prevention, deal with bureaucracy and inefficiencies in current. needs to be fixed. need to re-establish dr patient relationship eliminate hmo and health plans in middle.
I like the pic…..do believe Wax is the cutest bald man since Yul Brynner…..
Warrantless wiretaps? Mil commissions? unit exec theory? signing statements?
I had all but forgotten this, so maybe others have as well. Karl Rove was put in charge of Katrina reconstruction. At the time I don’t think any of us thought it was more than a way for Rove to run political damage control for letting New Orleans drown, and a poor job of that he did.
Now it seems it was likely a cover for the Hatch Act-violating activities inside DHS, FEMA and wherever else. Rove’s job was to steal elections, not do anything for people who needed help. I suppose they figured if Rove was in charge that’d justify why he was sniffing around government offices.
Oversight Committee Asks Agencies for Information on Political Presentations
Following media reports that at least 20 political briefings were given to officials of at least 15 federal agencies, Chairman Waxman writes to government agencies requesting further information and documents about any briefings mentioning elections or candidates provided to agency employees by officials in the White House.
Waxman site and list of Department receiving letters
Obama: confederate flag should be put in a museum
oddmommy @ 46
*sniff* but you haven’t seen MY cute bald head (with luxurious handle bar mustache - think John L Sullivan, not Snidely Whiplash) *g* :})
RonD @ 47
torture, habeas corpus, gitmo, rendition, black sites?
Gravel: I’m senior statesman hear so why am I feeling like a potted plant?
Kevin Hayden @ 24
let me second, and third that!
i think everyone knows that the
busy, busy fella’ (waxman) also sent
several agency heads hatch act
nastygrams today — based on
wa po and nytimes reports of 15/20
violative agency “briefings” — go ahead;
take a look. you know you want to.
and — it goes without saying — i love
every word of this post, marcy — he is
the man! so — “subpoenas are like high-
colonics” [my mama said. . .] they do get
things a-movin’. . .
Question was what is biggest personal political mistake made.
selise @ 52
Nooooo, we get haircuts and hillary-hate
Zhiv, that is such a travesty, a hometown hero leading an epic charge and being dissed! My hometown paper has had numerous glowing accounts of Waxman!
only giving 20 secs per to answer and I ain’t that fast.
Biggest mistake and made you better:
Kusinich: Mayor of Cleveland I fired Polcie chief on 6 oclock news
Clinton: Don’t have enough time for all m mistakes: Health care.
Obama: My wife has a long list. When first in Senate a debate about Schivo; we allowed Congress to intrude where it should not be.
Biden: Overestimating the conpedence of Bush
Edwards: War vote
puppethead @ 48
Excellent point. That would be the crowning height of Rove’s glory–overseeing Hatch Act violations that deprived NOLA of first responder attention.
The Patriot Act sure makes me feel safer.
Almost over….and it positively SUCKED
Hillary’s biggest mistakes, healthcare and trusting Bush to let inspectors through the UN do their work before Iraq war.
Edwards, war vote.
Richardson, too aggressive, wants change too fast.
puppethead @ 48
Could explain why Jozo reneged on subpoenas out of his Homeland Sec Comm wrt Katrina WH docs, etc.
Biggest mistake? believing Bush.
solai @ 62
Going to 7:30 per my tv then post debate analysis til 11 cdt
solai @ 62
Geez. Really?
Something needs to be done about Debate format. I didn’t even watch and I can tell you it doesn’t serve democracy.
oddmommy @ 46
Cuter than Captain Picard?
To Biden: We don’t go for advanced degrees like others, Fix that?
Biden: smaller class size. Play teacher alot
dakine01 @ 66
Maybe it will get better….I’ll keep watching
Brain drain in math and science:
Biden, we need best teachers, BETTER TEACHER PAY.
One of the debaters did not disappoint me. That is to say I got pretty much what I expected.
FYI: Baghdad loses its greatest blog voice.
Think it has 1.2 hour to go
citizen asks dodd if he needs to pee in bottle for job, shouldn’t welfare folks need to do so?
Dodd says: over tested now. not a good thing.
Okay, here’s one…why is gas so high?
solai @ 70
prolly won’t but will watch anyway.
Oil windfall, why prices so high?
Edwards, invest in clean alternative sources of energy. Ask Americans to be patriotic about something other than war.
Edwards: (re: energy) We need to ask Americans be patriotic about something other than war.
solai @ 76
One word: Collusion!
To K: Am middle class but can’t afford healthins. What are you doin”
K: I still live in a little house: premiums and co-pays too much. Universal not-for profit healthcare.
Questions from every-day citizens are much better than brian’s
Kevin Hayden @ 73
Thanks for that Kevin.
Kucinich: problem in health care sys is co-pays and premiums
Now trying to limit answers to one snetence: What is first thing to do first day.
HotFlash @
14
lather, rinse, repeat!
Name first thing first day:
R; get out of Iraq; second energy dependant; third climate change; 4th day take off.
Williams: Good bye to local stations, wll continue on MSNBC
NBC over the ari stations in SC are leaving, staying on msnbc
I should have watched Night of the Living Dead instead.
-GSD
dakine01 @ 51
sorry dude……should’ve said bald heads I’ve SEEN…… : )
Beer o’clock on the left coast.
solai @ 76
Hugh’s iron laws on energy prices:
Rule 2: Gas prices are always manipulated, always.
On first day in Oval office, what is first thing you’d do.
Richardson- out of Iraq. Renewable energy.
ALL OF THIS CARRIED OF MSNBC WEBSITE.
Non-iraq foreign policy
oddmommy @ 89
werks ;})
Hugh @ 91
what’s rule #1?
solai @ 82
No surprise there. Nice to see they’re being included. Is it too much to hope for a debate exclusively devoted to questions from Americans?
do you stnad by remark about no one suffering more than paletinina people?
Barack: give the whole quote, i said that plus from the palestinian leaders.
I want Rove called to answer quesions under oath. Get this guy and we’ll get the rest.
mrsmarks @ 96
Wouldn’t that be a blog?
Obama:don’t take me out of context.
The mention of Rove’s role in Katrina reconstruction, to use the term loosely, ought to be something Waxman could use to get KKKarl in front of him. It would be as embarassing a thing as you could find for making KKarl and Bush look like two clowns.
Williams is really showing bias….or am I so biased I see it where none exists. He asked Obama why hi didn’t mention Israel as important ally in follow up question
Biden: NK a threat.
Need to jettison pre-emption as doctrine regime change and open dialogue with these people.
Kevin Hayden @ 72
I can’t really be sad about that. I kinda want her to stay alive.
selise @ 95
Rule 1: Crude oil prices and gas prices are not directly coupled.
solai @ 102
No, he’s really showing biases.
Not a single question on what to do about the Israeli-Palestinian situation.
Gravel!
Gravel: Iraq has never been a threat Military industrial complex controls the govt!!!
Blank Kludge @ 63
Exactly! That’s some dot-connecting. I guess we forgot about Rove and Katrina because he did such a heckuva job. Seems he spent more time and money getting Lieberman elected–by saying that he would get into Katrina oversight–and Lieberman’s payback has been doing “RepubOversight,” i.e. nothing.
Klassic Karl. Now I get it, but I still want more.
Gavel. Military Industrial complex controls us lock, stock, and barrel. This guy is pissed!
dakine01 @ 106
How about him asking Gavel who’s America’s enemies are “other than Iraq” !!!!
I’m a little worried about Scott Bloch’s investigation. Is there any way that he can embargo documents or offer immunity for testimony that would either interfere with Congressional or criminal investigations into the issues surrounding violations of the Hatch Act (firings of US Atty’s, etc.)?
Will this give the WH a change to stall by saying “those documents are not in our hands, they are with the Special Consul, ask him.” And Bloch says “We’re still studying the documents so you’ll have to wait until we are completed with our report.”
That would mean that this is just another method of stonewalling, no?
Russia has been in news of late. Friend or foe
Edwards: opposition squashed. fair amount of time on these issues overseas ssince last election. How do we maintain our strength. Need to restore moral grounds and lead and show commitment to humanity
cinnamonape @ 113
yes
Edwards “world has to see America as a force for good again”
Bush looked into the soul of Putin: didn’t quite work out what would you do diff?
Richardson: Would decide what’s in it for us.
Brian Williams - busted by Obama trying to pass off a misleading “half quote” about the Palestinian people and attribute it to Obama. Brian Williams, what a scum bag.
For the guy with the best resume, Richardson doesn’t seem ready for primetime and he keeps going over time.
cinnamonape @ 113
IANAL but reading from those who are, it is doubtful. Most he can do is a limited referral. Congress cna trump him and probably ignore, if he has docs, force him to make copies.