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		<title>By: kaleidescope</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-650924</link>
		<dc:creator>kaleidescope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uh, someone probably made this point before, but it’s the DSM IV.  I say this only because someone gave it to me for my fiftieth birthday and I really like to read it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, someone probably made this point before, but it’s the DSM IV.  I say this only because someone gave it to me for my fiftieth birthday and I really like to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-650472</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dolly, good chain jerk. FDL has done some good work, but they ARE getting a tad full of themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  They did a LOT of worthy, hard work to help Ned Lamont, in both the primary and the election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   And then Hillary, among other things, helped the repubs put Lieberman back in the senate, and I was appalled when they let her on here, and essentially gave her a free pass, for the Q&amp;A.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   And then tap-danced around it, when a few of us questioned all of their “stay on the cupcake topic” policy.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Jane, Christy, Pachu, etc., it’s still foxhole time.   More than ever, in fact, as Hillary tries to stampede Edwards and Obama out of the race.  :o( &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She has to do it ASAP, because, just like bush, time is NOT on her side.   The worse Iraq gets, the worse she’ll look for not saying, straight-up, what a mistake it was to vote to enable it.  She’s just not as intelligent as I once thought, and neither are the people giving her advice.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    I am SO ready for a lady Prez.  Just not THIS lady.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    By contrast, Pelosi is about one good, bitchy, ballsy :o), statement or act away from totally firing my ass UP!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Her refusal to meet with Petraeus, was goood stuff.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nancy:   “General, you go ahead with the 5-O’Clock-follies-redux…I’m trying to cut down on the bullshit around here.”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dolly, good post.  Let’s cut down on it, around here, too.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolly, good chain jerk. FDL has done some good work, but they ARE getting a tad full of themselves.</p>
<p>  They did a LOT of worthy, hard work to help Ned Lamont, in both the primary and the election.</p>
<p>   And then Hillary, among other things, helped the repubs put Lieberman back in the senate, and I was appalled when they let her on here, and essentially gave her a free pass, for the Q&amp;A.  </p>
<p>   And then tap-danced around it, when a few of us questioned all of their “stay on the cupcake topic” policy.  </p>
<p>    Jane, Christy, Pachu, etc., it’s still foxhole time.   More than ever, in fact, as Hillary tries to stampede Edwards and Obama out of the race.  :o( </p>
<p>She has to do it ASAP, because, just like bush, time is NOT on her side.   The worse Iraq gets, the worse she’ll look for not saying, straight-up, what a mistake it was to vote to enable it.  She’s just not as intelligent as I once thought, and neither are the people giving her advice.    </p>
<p>    I am SO ready for a lady Prez.  Just not THIS lady.   </p>
<p>    By contrast, Pelosi is about one good, bitchy, ballsy :o), statement or act away from totally firing my ass UP!  </p>
<p>    Her refusal to meet with Petraeus, was goood stuff.    </p>
<p>Nancy:   “General, you go ahead with the 5-O’Clock-follies-redux…I’m trying to cut down on the bullshit around here.”  </p>
<p>Dolly, good post.  Let’s cut down on it, around here, too.  :o)</p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649912</link>
		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane:&lt;br /&gt;
no time to read the rest of the comments, but it is the DSM V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) and not the DMS, though I’ve heard that term somewhere before too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane:<br />
no time to read the rest of the comments, but it is the DSM V (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual) and not the DMS, though I’ve heard that term somewhere before too.</p>
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		<title>By: dolly lanna</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649911</link>
		<dc:creator>dolly lanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tucker Carlson is Margaret Carlson’s son.  Wonder what happened to him?  He will make an excellent game show host.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tucker Carlson is Margaret Carlson’s son.  Wonder what happened to him?  He will make an excellent game show host.</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649884</link>
		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-649652&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;laurie9 @ 198&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-649543&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;leftdcin72 @ 104 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know this  is off point but apparently George  Tenet, perhaps the worst hack of all time, is now set to promote his book. This endless parade of jerks, Cheney, Libby, Gore, the Clintons, Bushes, Kerry reflects the level of systemic failure I felt in the Vietnam era. But then the opposition was so clear  (and I am not including Kerry who was always a gadfly) and the press was making an  effort, even electronic media before the era of Disney and Viacom. &lt;b&gt;It really will go down that the Vietnam War so emasculated and disabled my generation that we were only destined to  have the petty such as the Clintons and their appointee, George Tenet and Bush. &lt;/b&gt;If you ever watch a re-run of Gore “debating” Bush it is just incredible and that is where that election was lost, not “stolen”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;my bold&lt;br /&gt;
I totally agree.  It’s time for the 50-60 year-olds to re-enable ourselves!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanx for the understanding. Believe it or not both George Allen and James Gilmore were in my class in law school. Another amazing development. Apparently James Gilmore is running for President after Allen imploded. But we live in a time when Allen was reported to be the leading candidate for the Republican nomination. And although some would mock Tucker Carlson, please remember it was he who interviewed and revealed the mocking punk style behavior of Bush pertaining to the execution of the woman who was executed in Texas. You have to have gone to prep school like Tucker to realize how dangerous and out of control Bush is. Preppies recognize Bush’s personality, it the low self-esteem, I am going to get you personality.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-649652"><em>laurie9 @ 198</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-649543"><em>leftdcin72 @ 104 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I know this  is off point but apparently George  Tenet, perhaps the worst hack of all time, is now set to promote his book. This endless parade of jerks, Cheney, Libby, Gore, the Clintons, Bushes, Kerry reflects the level of systemic failure I felt in the Vietnam era. But then the opposition was so clear  (and I am not including Kerry who was always a gadfly) and the press was making an  effort, even electronic media before the era of Disney and Viacom. <b>It really will go down that the Vietnam War so emasculated and disabled my generation that we were only destined to  have the petty such as the Clintons and their appointee, George Tenet and Bush. </b>If you ever watch a re-run of Gore “debating” Bush it is just incredible and that is where that election was lost, not “stolen”.</p>
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<p>my bold<br />
I totally agree.  It’s time for the 50-60 year-olds to re-enable ourselves!</p>
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<p>Thanx for the understanding. Believe it or not both George Allen and James Gilmore were in my class in law school. Another amazing development. Apparently James Gilmore is running for President after Allen imploded. But we live in a time when Allen was reported to be the leading candidate for the Republican nomination. And although some would mock Tucker Carlson, please remember it was he who interviewed and revealed the mocking punk style behavior of Bush pertaining to the execution of the woman who was executed in Texas. You have to have gone to prep school like Tucker to realize how dangerous and out of control Bush is. Preppies recognize Bush’s personality, it the low self-esteem, I am going to get you personality.</p>
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		<title>By: dolly lanna</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649827</link>
		<dc:creator>dolly lanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;However, when I looked it up, that is what was 41% after I read your 90% thing. It still is not at 90%  What is going on with that. ?&lt;br /&gt;
JUST ASKIN??  YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT ON IT.&lt;br /&gt;
And again remember I am a code pink member and very much on the side of Reid.  please Don’t exaggerate it confuses my pink mind.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, when I looked it up, that is what was 41% after I read your 90% thing. It still is not at 90%  What is going on with that. ?<br />
JUST ASKIN??  YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT ON IT.<br />
And again remember I am a code pink member and very much on the side of Reid.  please Don’t exaggerate it confuses my pink mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649803</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-649797&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dolly lanna @&lt;br /&gt;
                214              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????&lt;br /&gt;
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere.  It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35%  Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.&lt;br /&gt;
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?&lt;br /&gt;
	Yes&lt;br /&gt;
41%	5386 votes&lt;br /&gt;
	No&lt;br /&gt;
35%	4630 votes&lt;br /&gt;
	Undecided&lt;br /&gt;
24%	3134 votes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#124; 13150 votes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe it is now at 88% but I think you may be a little &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/15019/8035&quot;&gt;html challenged here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nice shreiking about “misleading posts,” however.  Save that, it will come in handy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-649797"><em>dolly lanna @<br />
                214              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????<br />
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere.  It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35%  Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.<br />
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?<br />
	Yes<br />
41%	5386 votes<br />
	No<br />
35%	4630 votes<br />
	Undecided<br />
24%	3134 votes</p>
<p>| 13150 votes</p>
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<p>I believe it is now at 88% but I think you may be a little <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/25/15019/8035">html challenged here</a>.</p>
<p>Nice shreiking about “misleading posts,” however.  Save that, it will come in handy.</p>
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		<title>By: dolly lanna</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649800</link>
		<dc:creator>dolly lanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The above poll was taken right off the Daily Kos page.  I copied it  not a retyped thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind  I am one of the approving votes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above poll was taken right off the Daily Kos page.  I copied it  not a retyped thing.</p>
<p>Keep in mind  I am one of the approving votes.</p>
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		<title>By: dolly lanna</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649797</link>
		<dc:creator>dolly lanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????&lt;br /&gt;
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere.  It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35%  Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.&lt;br /&gt;
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?&lt;br /&gt;
	Yes&lt;br /&gt;
41%	5386 votes&lt;br /&gt;
	No&lt;br /&gt;
35%	4630 votes&lt;br /&gt;
	Undecided&lt;br /&gt;
24%	3134 votes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#124; 13150 votes&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS THIS THE 90% YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT????<br />
As much as I love harry and what he is doing I do not like misleading posts anywhere.  It seems to me that the approval is 41% to 35%  Where did you get 90%????We hold everyone accountable not just republs.<br />
Do you approve of the way Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is doing his job?<br />
	Yes<br />
41%	5386 votes<br />
	No<br />
35%	4630 votes<br />
	Undecided<br />
24%	3134 votes</p>
<p>| 13150 votes</p>
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		<title>By: Sixty Something</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/04/25/give-em-the-stick/#comment-649785</link>
		<dc:creator>Sixty Something</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-649477&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bearpaw @ 45 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, c’mon Jane.  A &lt;em&gt;dKos straw poll&lt;/em&gt;?  I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all due respect to the members of this wonderful site, the comment by this poster is in no way disrespectful to Jane, or any other member of this forum.  True.  Jane did say it was a straw poll, and the poster was doing nothing more than pointing out Jane’s own comment.  Can any of you/us honestly said that we haven’t made a comment in haste, reading sporatically as time allows?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IMHO, we should cut the poster some slack and see what else she/he has to say IF they decide to stick around.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Forgive me if I am not in on the insider trollie tracks, but this seems to me to be a bit of an over reaction to a comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Believe me, I will think twice before commenting again.  That should not be the case at a site that I have rarely commented at, but would like to think I am welcome.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-649477"><em>Bearpaw @ 45 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, c’mon Jane.  A <em>dKos straw poll</em>?  I’m all for whoopin’ up Reid, but that’s not exactly a meaningful number.</p>
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<p>With all due respect to the members of this wonderful site, the comment by this poster is in no way disrespectful to Jane, or any other member of this forum.  True.  Jane did say it was a straw poll, and the poster was doing nothing more than pointing out Jane’s own comment.  Can any of you/us honestly said that we haven’t made a comment in haste, reading sporatically as time allows?</p>
<p>IMHO, we should cut the poster some slack and see what else she/he has to say IF they decide to stick around.</p>
<p>Forgive me if I am not in on the insider trollie tracks, but this seems to me to be a bit of an over reaction to a comment.</p>
<p>Believe me, I will think twice before commenting again.  That should not be the case at a site that I have rarely commented at, but would like to think I am welcome.</p>
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